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Mandella69
01-06-2007, 08:09 PM
I am looking for a kill switch for my flatbottom. The way the boat is wired, it must handle all the current which would be about 15 amps. Two electric fuel pumps, MSD6 ignition and occasionaly, a sump pump. I suppose I could rewire the boat but I prefer a "master" on/off switch.
The double ball kill switch would do the job but I have been told they are somewhat unreliable. I do not know as I have never used one. All the other ones I have seen are usually rated for 5 amps or so. Any advice would be helpful.
Thanks

Morg
01-06-2007, 08:12 PM
With that much wirring you might as well not stop there. Add a relay. The relay will easily handle the amps. Control the relay with the kill switch.
Let me know if you need some help with the wiring of the relay.

GofastRacer
01-06-2007, 08:27 PM
The double ball works as long as the tab is pulled out straight, I have seen where a driver got ejected and pulled the tab at an angle and it broke off leaving half of it in tact and not killing the ignition. Get a Mercury switch, it will come off no matter how you exit!..

steelcomp
01-06-2007, 08:38 PM
I agree with Morg. I have my fuel pump and ignition both on idividual relays, and wired into the kill switch. Fuel pump won't run without the ign. on, and the ign. is on the kill sw., so it'll kill fuel pump and ign. relays.

Fiat48
01-06-2007, 08:48 PM
Thanks for the reminder. The double ball on my deal has to go. Too many shocking experiences as I have a magneto and evidently my body seems to be a good conductor.

GofastRacer
01-06-2007, 08:51 PM
Another reason not to use em!..:D

Morg
01-06-2007, 08:52 PM
When I switched to the mag I got the Merc. kill switch from Rex.
BTW- Hey Steel I thought our agreement on a subject should be remembered, Check out my sig.:D :D :D

Mandella69
01-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the replies. The idea of using a relay(s) makes a lot of sense. I gather you all like the Mercury kill switch as the means to trip thr relay. Morg, thanks for the offer about the wiring. Let me think about my situation and if I have doubts I will contact you.
Thanks again

Moneypitt
01-06-2007, 10:34 PM
How does a double ball switch work with a 12v ignition? With the plastic piece in, there is no conductivity. Does it hook to the dist. side of the coil, then ground it out when the plug is pulled? If you're trying to interupt the voltage supply I fail to see how a double ball deal would work. For a mag yes, standard type ignition, I can't see it............MP

Firecracker
01-06-2007, 10:56 PM
If you get a Mercury switch and you use it to turn off your engine, make sure you buy extra pull thingys. The spring that goes around them tends to wear out, and the cap does not stay on the switch, and this will cause your engine to turn off without you wanting it to. We had a problem with that in my grandfather's boat when we were using it for ski racing. But we didn't even use it to kill the engine, and the spring wore out. Smart idea to keep an extra black cap thingy in your driver seat just in case! :D

Fiat48
01-06-2007, 11:07 PM
How does a double ball switch work with a 12v ignition? With the plastic piece in, there is no conductivity. Does it hook to the dist. side of the coil, then ground it out when the plug is pulled? If you're trying to interupt the voltage supply I fail to see how a double ball deal would work. For a mag yes, standard type ignition, I can't see it............MP
The switches are different. The mag style double ball....plastic is inserted to keep balls from touching.
The ignition type is different. the balls don't touch when nothing between them and you use a metal piece for connection.
Some ball type switches...adjustable to where you can make the balls contact or not...so you can adjust for mag or standard ignition. As mine was.
Pretty flimsy deals.

steelcomp
01-06-2007, 11:41 PM
When I switched to the mag I got the Merc. kill switch from Rex.
BTW- Hey Steel I thought our agreement on a subject should be remembered, Check out my sig.:D :D :D
LOL...I'm honored. :D
My kill switch is one for a PWC. It can be wired normally open, or normally closed. I believe it's just a spring actuated plunger with a couple of contacts. Got it at West Marine or Boater's World, one or the other.

rrrr
01-07-2007, 12:00 AM
You guys should get a switch like the one on my lawn tractor. When you leave the seat, it kills the motor.
Sounds perfect for boat racing. :D :D

Moneypitt
01-07-2007, 12:29 AM
The switches are different. The mag style double ball....plastic is inserted to keep balls from touching.
The ignition type is different. the balls don't touch when nothing between them and you use a metal piece for connection.
Some ball type switches...adjustable to where you can make the balls contact or not...so you can adjust for mag or standard ignition. As mine was.
Pretty flimsy deals.
That explains that............MP

Morg
01-07-2007, 07:56 AM
Man69,
Remember the MSD has a relay built in. It should be wired directly to the battery +,-.
Then switched 12 volt to the small red wire.

River Rat 005
01-07-2007, 02:18 PM
I made my kill switch from a 2 pin plug. The one end is wired to the main curcuit. the other end I twisted the wires together to make a complete curcuit. I hook this end to my life jacket. If I get pitched, and I have, it pulls the plug. With the way I have it wired, my switch kills everything.

steelcomp
01-07-2007, 05:51 PM
I made my kill switch from a 2 pin plug. The one end is wired to the main curcuit. the other end I twisted the wires together to make a complete curcuit. I hook this end to my life jacket. If I get pitched, and I have, it pulls the plug. With the way I have it wired, my switch kills everything.Is that legal where you race??:jawdrop:
Must be some pretty strong duct tape that holds that plug to the boat. On the side that pulls out...did you wirenut the two wires together with a third piece of whire that attatches to your life jacket?
Got a picture?