KX100 or CRF150R for the kid?

[FASTERDAMITT]

My boy needs to step up a notch from the YZ85. He's not ready for a adult bike yet so I have a choice of KX100, CRF150R or a CRF230f. I know the 150r is a new a bad azz bike but is it worth over a grand more??? I would think the KX has as much power. The 230 would prabably be too heavy I think, even with the electric start at 230+ pounds. We're talkin desert riding in Palm Springs area and a trip to Glamis once in awhile.
Thanks

[Jrocket]

If he rides the track more than trail get the crf150,if its more trail and fun play riding,get the 230.

[FASTERDAMITT]

No track riding. You don't like the KX100?

[rmarion]

CRF150..........
that way, when he's not riding it, you can...............:D

[OutCole'd]

Here's a 150, not sure if it's still available.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127474

[FASTERDAMITT]

That's a 150f. A Dog! The R is the hot shit now.

[FASTERDAMITT]

For four wheels we have the Jeep.:)

[Kachina 34]

My boy needs to step up a notch from the YZ85. He's not ready for a adult bike yet so I have a choice of KX100, CRF150R or a CRF230f. I know the 150r is a new a bad azz bike but is it worth over a grand more??? I would think the KX has as much power. The 230 would prabably be too heavy I think, even with the electric start at 230+ pounds. We're talkin desert riding in Palm Springs area and a trip to Glamis once in awhile.
Thanks
My kid had the XR70 and after he learned how to ride I hooked him up with the KX100. He rode it into the ground for almost two years.
Bad ass little bike.

[Jrocket]

No track riding. You don't like the KX100?
The 4 stroke is more rider friendly for a kid.I'd take the CRF150 over the KX100 anyday,mine should be here shortly.:D

[dirtracer]

i have a 07 crf150r and love it. I only ride it on tracks though and around the house.
I do have a bike that would probably be perfect for your kid and its very rare. Its an 06 crf150f big wheel with electric start(05's were kick start), cr85 front and rear suspension by mad racing, and engines only 225cc kit, 26mm carb. I have 5500 into the bike and would sell it for only 3500 bucks. I dont have any pictures of it but its a sweet bike.

[FASTERDAMITT]

I'll read up on that 225 kit. Thanks.

[TheCarDudes]

KX125. I put my son on it and had him start with one leg hangin' off the side. The beauty is that it will last him for years to come.
Oh yeah ....... 2003 KX125 ffor sale. Nice bike with all new plastic ready to install....... PM for details,
George

[dirtracer]

go to xr100.com
thats the kit I have with a crower cam.

[dicudmore]

KX125. I put my son on it and had him start with one leg hangin' off the side. The beauty is that it will last him for years to come.
Oh yeah ....... 2003 KX125 ffor sale. Nice bike with all new plastic ready to install....... PM for details,
George
agreed with George--why buy something he's gonna grow out of after a few months of riding...and what better way for him to learn throttle control than to ride a 2-stroke for a while :D

[MUDXPRT]

I'm going through this same thing right now. My 14 yr has yz85 06 and outgrew, he fit perfect on the crf150r big wheel but if I buy him that, next year same problem. So were going with the crf250r a little to big but he is going to have to take it easy and slowly learn the bigger bike. (o6 yz85 4-sale)

[76ANTHONY]

My boy needs to step up a notch from the YZ85. He's not ready for a adult bike yet so I have a choice of KX100, CRF150R or a CRF230f. I know the 150r is a new a bad azz bike but is it worth over a grand more??? I would think the KX has as much power. The 230 would prabably be too heavy I think, even with the electric start at 230+ pounds. We're talkin desert riding in Palm Springs area and a trip to Glamis once in awhile.
Thanks
first off, how old is your boy, what does he weigh? the power difference between the 150 and 230 are pretty big, the 230 would really probably fit better after a few rides. but then again if hes 11 it aint gonna work. another thing, do not, i repeat, do not buy at desert cities honda, they will rip you off, i know, i worked there...

[killerbeez]

How about the KTM 105 sx.IMO it has more power than the kx plus alot more trick parts on it stock.Great little bikes.

[2forcefull]

agreed with George--why buy something he's gonna grow out of after a few months of riding...and what better way for him to learn throttle control than to ride a 2-stroke for a while :D
I did that, my boy out grew the kx100 in 6 mo. plus the wheels are too small on the kx for the dunes, I bought him the crf250r, put the 110 lb rider springs and cut the seat foam out to 1/2 inch, works great!!
I wish I would have just left him on the smaller bike longer!

[wright27]

My boy needs to step up a notch from the YZ85. He's not ready for a adult bike yet so I have a choice of KX100, CRF150R or a CRF230f. I know the 150r is a new a bad azz bike but is it worth over a grand more??? I would think the KX has as much power. The 230 would prabably be too heavy I think, even with the electric start at 230+ pounds. We're talkin desert riding in Palm Springs area and a trip to Glamis once in awhile.
Thanks
My sons rides a yz 85 and my wife has a kx 100. When my son rides the 100 he says it is a little faster to him than his 85 but not much. When rides his friends 150 r he loves that bike, he says much faster and more control than the 100. Hope this helps

[beach gomer]

Buy the 150R .I bought one for my son for X-mas.He will be on it the next two years.It is pricey though. I paid 4400.00.If anyone is interested I have a 2006 KX 65 for sale never been raced.PM me.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Good input so far thanks. He is 12 and has not hit that growth spurt yet, but he is a good rider. The YZ85 did not have enough power for some of the hills around here.

[wright27]

Good input so far thanks. He is 12 and has not hit that growth spurt yet, but he is a good rider. The YZ85 did not have enough power for some of the hills around here.
The 150 r will. That bike is in a class all of its own.

[Wmc]

I have a KX125 for sale, pm me if your interested in some pictures and more details. My son is stepping up to a 250. William

[Boa1277]

I would buy him a 125 two stroke or the 150R Big wheel. ? does he ever plan on racing the 150 is not legal to race in most organizations, unless you ride super mini or he is at least 12 years of age if you do not plan on racing put him on a 150 big wheel or a 125 two stroke (since he already knows how to ride one) If you want a bike that will last a while buy him a 250 4 Stroke...Good Luck. I am buying my kid a new bike every year 1 to practice and 1 to race (not Cheap)) he practices on the yr old bike. Oh well it keeps him competitive and thank goodness I only have 1 kid and he is still riding a 85 (he is only 10)

[MUDXPRT]

I did that, my boy out grew the kx100 in 6 mo. plus the wheels are too small on the kx for the dunes, I bought him the crf250r, put the 110 lb rider springs and cut the seat foam out to 1/2 inch, works great!!
I wish I would have just left him on the smaller bike longer!
By changing the springs (which springs) and the 1/2" in the foam did this lower the bike from original height ?

[2forcefull]

By changing the springs (which springs) and the 1/2" in the foam did this lower the bike from original height ?
they make spring kits for the riders weight, fork and rear mono.I got mine at sams cycle in vegas [702] 367 7267, and the seat, if you take all the staples out, you can remove the seat foam. what I did was take some rebound carpet
pad and put a layer of it on the seat pan and strech the cover on and staple it. that way i had the stock seat foam for later use. also you can lower the forks at the trees about 1 1/2".
when I bought him the bike, I kept the kawi 100 so he could ride it till he got used to the honda, when he first rode it, it bucked pretty bad and couldn't adjust the suspension enough, he only weighs 110 lbs.
as soon as I changed the springs to fit his weight, he never got off the thing!
great bike!!, will last him a long time.
all the neighbor kids that bought 150s have all ready sold them and got 250s
so I glad I didn't go that route cause I'd be back down to honda try'n to
trade up, too bad you're not in vegas you could check it out

[wright27]

I feel it is important to get a bike that fits your son even if it will only be for a year. To big a bike is not good for confidence, and confidence is one of the most important things to riding. You could create a serious injury if the bike is to big. JMO

[2forcefull]

I feel it is important to get a bike that fits your son even if it will only be for a year. To big a bike is not good for confidence, and confidence is one of the most important things to riding. You could create a serious injury if the bike is to big. JMO
Yeah, I agree! the problem is they are all the same size!!! the 125, 150, 250, 450. the other problem is they set them all up for 200 lbs ridders and the springs suck, err I mean buck. the cool thing about the crf250r is you don't have to have the throttle pinned all the time to make power like the 125.
what bike does your son ride?
I bought mine the 85, out grew it in 6 mo.
then the kx 100, out grew it in 6 mo.
then the crf250r which he rides now.
I have a like brand yz250 2 stroke
that I thought he would kill himself on
so I won't let him ride it, it was my older sons
and I bought him a new crf450r cause his brother
had just got three new bikes in a one year time span
the 5'2 " 100lbs riders don't have much to chose from,
either too small or too big

[FASTERDAMITT]

Well guys we went to the Honda dealer again last night. He tried the Crf230f, Crf150R and CRf250R. 250 is way to big. He's 100 pounds wet. So it's gonna be the 230 or 150R.
For Glamis which one?
For rocky hill climb which one?
I'm thinkin the 230 is going to be more capable all around. The low end torque on the 150r may be to low for the rocky uphill areas.:idea:

[wright27]

Well guys we went to the Honda dealer again last night. He tried the Crf230f, Crf150R and CRf250R. 250 is way to big. He's 100 pounds wet. So it's gonna be the 230 or 150R.
For Glamis which one?
For rocky hill climb which one?
I'm thinkin the 230 is going to be more capable all around. The low end torque on the 150r may be to low for the rocky uphill areas.:idea:
The 230 is a serious turd.:D Crapy suspension, sluggish power. The 150r and 230 are not even in the same class. The 150 r is built to go fast and jump big (sorry for sounding lame). The 230 is nothing more than a play bike.

[wright27]

Yeah, I agree! the problem is they are all the same size!!! the 125, 150, 250, 450. the other problem is they set them all up for 200 lbs ridders and the springs suck, err I mean buck. the cool thing about the crf250r is you don't have to have the throttle pinned all the time to make power like the 125.
what bike does your son ride?
I bought mine the 85, out grew it in 6 mo.
then the kx 100, out grew it in 6 mo.
then the crf250r which he rides now.
I have a like brand yz250 2 stroke
that I thought he would kill himself on
so I won't let him ride it, it was my older sons
and I bought him a new crf450r cause his brother
had just got three new bikes in a one year time span
the 5'2 " 100lbs riders don't have much to chose from,
either too small or too big
The 150r has a lower seat height than the 125 and the 250f
150 r has a 34 inch seat height and weighs 169 lbs.
250f has a 38 inch seat height and weighs 204 lbs.
125 37.3 inch seat haight and weighs 197 lbs.
My son has a yz 85. He wants a 150 but he needs to win more at the track to get it.(just my way of motivating him). I would prefer he had the 150. I am sick of mixing gas and changing plugs when we go to the desert.
Sure my son has ridden my 450 , but he is nervous every time he rides it.
He has confidence on a bike that fits him.

[MUDXPRT]

they make spring kits for the riders weight, fork and rear mono.I got mine at sams cycle in vegas [702] 367 7267, and the seat, if you take all the staples out, you can remove the seat foam. what I did was take some rebound carpet
pad and put a layer of it on the seat pan and strech the cover on and staple it. that way i had the stock seat foam for later use. also you can lower the forks at the trees about 1 1/2".
when I bought him the bike, I kept the kawi 100 so he could ride it till he got used to the honda, when he first rode it, it bucked pretty bad and couldn't adjust the suspension enough, he only weighs 110 lbs.
as soon as I changed the springs to fit his weight, he never got off the thing!
great bike!!, will last him a long time.
all the neighbor kids that bought 150s have all ready sold them and got 250s
so I glad I didn't go that route cause I'd be back down to honda try'n to
trade up, too bad you're not in vegas you could check it out
Thanks for the info. that will help.

[dirtracer]

im tellin ya, i bet my modified 150f would be perfect! Here is what mine looks like:

[Boa1277]

Ok, you are really confusing me, there is not a bike on the market that is setup from the factory for a 200lb rider, all stock bikes from the big 4 are setup for 160 to 180lb rider, if he is lighter you re-spring the bike for his weight and set the sag. The 150 has a shitload more power than the 230. The 150R is a race bike and with that comes the power, also the maintnence, plan on adjusting the valves and they are real hard on clutches. But it should have plenty of power until he starts weighing more than 150lbs. I watched one of the faster AZ riders borrow a girls bone stock small wheel 150R and race the school boy class, (thats 250 and 450 thumper displacement) and smoke all of the bigger bikes. I am telling you that 150 flat gets with it and if you add a rider with skill it can compete with the bigger displacements all day long. If your son is coming off of a 85 the 150 will have enough power for at least a couple of years and the big wheel option should allow him to grow into the bike. Weight is the key factor, if your kid starts weighing more than 140 to 150 he will not think the bike has enough power..Good Luck

[2forcefull]

Ok, you are really confusing me, there is not a bike on the market that is setup from the factory for a 200lb rider, all stock bikes from the big 4 are setup for 160 to 180lb rider, if he is lighter you re-spring the bike for his weight and set the sag. The 150 has a shitload more power than the 230. The 150R is a race bike and with that comes the power, also the maintnence, plan on adjusting the valves and they are real hard on clutches. But it should have plenty of power until he starts weighing more than 150lbs. I watched one of the faster AZ riders borrow a girls bone stock small wheel 150R and race the school boy class, (thats 250 and 450 thumper displacement) and smoke all of the bigger bikes. I am telling you that 150 flat gets with it and if you add a rider with skill it can compete with the bigger displacements all day long. If your son is coming off of a 85 the 150 will have enough power for at least a couple of years and the big wheel option should allow him to grow into the bike. Weight is the key factor, if your kid starts weighing more than 140 to 150 he will not think the bike has enough power..Good Luck
Hey, someone who know what they are talk'n about!!! cool
I used the 200lbs number because thats what I weigh and the guys at honda
said it was perfect for my weight, and when I rode it the suspension was assume!!!, of corse both the 250 and the 450 were brand new and the suspension wasn't broke in yet.
my youngest son weighs only 110, and his brother about 130.
I went to the shop and they gave me the springs for their weight.
they both work assume now, compared to buck'n like crazy.
I got my youngest the crf250r because we only dune ride and both the bikes have paddles. (so they don't ride on the street when I'm not home !!!)
I think the 250 dosen't have to work as hard as the 150 at the dunes,and my older son came of a yz250 and 450 fit the bill.
the seat height on the crf250r with all the mods is 31 1/2"

[FASTERDAMITT]

Question?
Will the CRF230f get up oldsmobile hill? How about the CRF150R? My boys Yz80 would not. Maybe because it was ported to the moon and would fall on it's face when down shifting.

[76ANTHONY]

Question?
Will the CRF230f get up oldsmobile hill? How about the CRF150R? My boys Yz80 would not. Maybe because it was ported to the moon and would fall on it's face when down shifting.
the 150r will make it up oldsmobile if hes only 100lbs it should make it up very quick.. the 230 will with practice, it has no low end torque.. check on kits for the both of them and i think you'll find that the 150r will be your best choice besides a 2 stroke for just tearin shiat up... bring him up ta yucca and he can ride my 250r see if its something he likes and then that might be another option for him.

[FASTERDAMITT]

Well I just picked up a 2004 Crf230F in town for $1860 plus tax. I could not pass it up. We'll give it a try with a slip on silencer and some jetting. If it does'nt work for him I will see if anyoune wants a deal on it. Thanks for all the input from the ***boat crew!:)