Spelling and Handwriting today...

[Froggystyle]

How did the ability to communicate effectively using the written word become so lost? I have had over 20 people work for me in the last 3 years, nearly all of which dismiss this ability in one phrase... "I can't spell".
Crappy handwriting is one thing... I hate writing too, and I have no idea why schools even teach cursive. But, in response to hating to write, I learned how to write in block letters, so at least I can get my point across if need be.
It seems like I am constantly going around the shop correcting spelling, and this place nearly gives me an aneurysm every time I am on here. For the most part, this forum represents an awful large cross section of middle America. I don't want to be considered a spelling Nazi, but if you are misspelling words, especially in the titles of threads, you are making everyone who reads it think you are a dullard.
Just think about it next time you dismiss proper written communication as "I can't spell". It has the same effect to many people as "I don't bathe". Sure, it is a personal choice, but it affects everyone.
Soapbox session over... back to your regularly scheduled "threds"

[BarryMac]

I totally agree, one of my pet peeves on here is that people say "I seen that the other day", the word is saw not seen...:mad: :D

[STV_Keith]

I mispelled several words in the Trident Review...
RD-ullard
Uh, you misspelled, "misspelled." LOL

[boatnam2]

i cant spell ,type or have any punctuation.should of went to high school instead of surfing all day!

[riverbound]

I just chose not to go back and fix my spelling mistakes.
<---really doesnt give a rats ass if people think Im a "dullard" :D

[Jbb]

Uh, you misspelled, "misspelled." LOL
ha!.....RD SIX......er...Sox.....er....SUX....:D

[buzzaro]

Three words: their there and they're

[dumbandyoung]

its seems like you must spell correctly on ***boat or you will get hung

[Daytona100]

Hook em up with spell check and all will be well in your world!!!!

[CBadDad]

All I have to do is mis spell words and I'll be hung?

[dumbandyoung]

yes...thats all you have to do:D

[Froggystyle]

its seems like you must spell correctly on ***boat or you will get hung
Not hung, just thought to be somewhat illiterate.
It isn't like we can't figure out what you meant to say, it is just that it is incredulous to me that someone would have so little consideration for the impression being left on the rest of the world.
Internet forum or not, the inability to spell correctly casts a shadow that smacks of poor education, accurate or not.
I personally take pride in what I present to the public, and this is the public. If it isn't important to you... awesome. But you should know that an easy dismissal of basic punctuation, spelling and composition skills will create an image that you may not wish to have created.

[Bense468]

Apparently it bothers youÂ…:D

[USCFAN]

Threds???? or Threads????? :D

[Froggystyle]

Threds???? or Threads????? :D
So you caught the joke I see...

[Flyinbowtie]

Froggy, Froggy, Froggy...:D
I can tell you how.
People stopped reading books, stopped reading newspapers, and stopped writing letters. This all started in the late seventies as TV got to the point where there were about 200 channels; and staring at the TV Box became the national pastime.
Parents stopped reading to their young children, so the children never learned about the world of books. MTV replaced the library, and then MTV was joined by video games.
All of this caused people to not give a damn about their written communication skills. The ability to spell is directly related to the ability to read, and reading recreationaly is a core factor in honing that skill.
I ran the Field Training Officer Program for our agency for over 5 years. Without a doubt, the biggest single cause of headaches for FTO's in our agency was attempting to teach an adult High School Graduates to read and write a simple police reoprt. High School Graduates today cannot read, write or spell any better than I could when I was in fourth grade. I cannot tell you the number of times I read a, "final draft" of a trainee's attempt to write a police report and wanted to puke.
The FTO's said that the trainees had started calling me, "Sgt. Sharpee" because of my propensity to cover their chicken scratch with red corrections.
Good luck, my friend. It ain't gonna get any better. The only reason my boys can write & read is because I forced them to do so from about 5 years old.
The public schools...well, that is another story.:rolleyes:

[dumbandyoung]

Not hung, just thought to be somewhat illiterate.
It isn't like we can't figure out what you meant to say, it is just that it is incredulous to me that someone would have so little consideration for the impression being left on the rest of the world.
Internet forum or not, the inability to spell correctly casts a shadow that smacks of poor education, accurate or not.
I personally take pride in what I present to the public, and this is the public. If it isn't important to you... awesome. But you should know that an easy dismissal of basic punctuation, spelling and composition skills will create an image that you may not wish to have created.
Froggy i can agree with you there. but my laziness will not.haha
are you gonna be at the boat show?

[USCFAN]

So you caught the joke I see...
I figured as much. I'm sure you would not have made such a mistake.

[Baja Big Dog]

I have a real problem with "teh", cant figure it out.:confused:

[Froggystyle]

I figured as much. I'm sure you would not have made such a mistake.
Hence the quotations. ;) I figured without it the joke wouldn't be obvious enough...

[Jordy]

Yeah, interesting timing on this thread Frogman. Just got my insurance cards faxed over for my new car I'm picking up tomorrow. The girl at my agent's office was hard enough to understand on the phone, and based upon her handwriting I'm thinking she's 10 working an after-school job. Looks like my writing if I try to write backwards and left handed. Amazing. Figure she'd have a template and just type it out. Yikes!!! :jawdrop: :D

[Jbb]

You don't live far enough away to be talking like this Inskeep.
RD :eek:
lmao......Hit high and deep to straightaway center..............:D

[djunkie]

I just chose not to go back and fix my spelling mistakes.
<---really doesnt give a rats ass if people think Im a "dullard" :D
I agree. Since when are we being graded on our posts???

[Froggystyle]

You don't live far enough away to be talking like this Inskeep.
RD :eek:
Nice to see that this place has such a short memory too... ;)

[djunkie]

Not hung, just thought to be somewhat illiterate.
It isn't like we can't figure out what you meant to say, it is just that it is incredulous to me that someone would have so little consideration for the impression being left on the rest of the world.
Internet forum or not, the inability to spell correctly casts a shadow that smacks of poor education, accurate or not.
I personally take pride in what I present to the public, and this is the public. If it isn't important to you... awesome. But you should know that an easy dismissal of basic punctuation, spelling and composition skills will create an image that you may not wish to have created.
Thats funny, I got a bachelors degree and I don't always spell words correctly on here.

[Jordy]

Thats funny, I got a bachelors degree and I don't always spell words correctly on here.
IDIOT!!!! GOSH!!!! :D :D

[djunkie]

IDIOT!!!! GOSH!!!! :D :D
:D :D

[Froggystyle]

Thats funny, I got a bachelors degree and I don't always spell words correctly on here.
My guess is, it isn't a bachelors in English... ;)
I am not claiming to be above occasional errata. I for some reason always have to figure out the difference between freind and friend... both always look right to me. But I go fix it.

[HCS]

Usually if I miis spell it's becoause I'm always in a hurry I work at a car dealership.
I don't have much time to make my comment and get the hell off so I can
do my job. :D

[Jordy]

My guess is, it isn't a bachelors in English...
I majored in Sanskrit. ;)
Seems to come in handy with some of Hanson and Eazykiller's posts. :D :D :D

[HCS]

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[thumbs]

I have a real problem with "teh", cant figure it out.:confused:
I think that one is more of a typing error than spelling.
I can't stand to read posts that have a lack punctuation marks and capitol letters.

[djunkie]

I think that one is more of a typing error than spelling.
I can't stand to read posts that have a lack OF punctuation marks and capitol letters.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

[Froggystyle]

I can't stand to read posts that have a lack punctuation marks and capitol letters.
Tough to believe that people would leave letters that are not the centers of influence.
Sometimes they leave out "capital" letters too... ;)

[Froggystyle]

Usually if I miis spell it's becoause I'm always in a hurry I work at a car dealership.
I don't have much time to make my comment and get the hell off so I can
do my job. :D
You just need to re-prioritize your life then... ;)
By the way, you have a couple in there...

[No Name]

How did the ability to communicate effectively using the written word become so lost? I have had over 20 people work for me in the last 3 years, nearly all of which dismiss this ability in one phrase... "I can't spell".
Crappy handwriting is one thing... I hate writing too, and I have no idea why schools even teach cursive. But, in response to hating to write, I learned how to write in block letters, so at least I can get my point across if need be.
It seems like I am constantly going around the shop correcting spelling, and this place nearly gives me an aneurysm every time I am on here. For the most part, this forum represents an awful large cross section of middle America. I don't want to be considered a spelling Nazi, but if you are misspelling words, especially in the titles of threads, you are making everyone who reads it think you are a dullard.
Just think about it next time you dismiss proper written communication as "I can't spell". It has the same effect to many people as "I don't bathe". Sure, it is a personal choice, but it affects everyone.
Soapbox session over... back to your regularly scheduled "threds"
I wish I could be you if only for just one day.:D
Best built boat, best speller, just the best at everything.:D
YouÂ’re the man frogster.;)

[HCS]

You just need to re-prioritize your life then... ;)
Ya.....maybe some day. For right now parts is parts. http://www.***boat.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Actually it can be a cool job at times. Wait till I post the HID upgrade on my Suburban.
I bought this bitchen diamond cut headlight kit. Then I'm adding an 8000k
O-NEX HID Conversion kit.
Also adding diamond cut turn signal buckets w/LEDs.
I'm taking before and after pics to be posted later. Hopefully I'm going to be
doing the install this weekend.

[Froggystyle]

I wish I could be you if only for just one day.:D
Best built boat, best speller, just the best at everything.:D
You’re the man frogster.;)
I have my moments...
Applying yourself to everything you attempt is not a flaw.
If it makes you feel any better, I am very bad at administrative work, terrible at getting stuff put in a box and shipped UPS and I tend to leave all of my clothes right where I took them off.
Sometimes, depending on the occasion I will forget about anniversaries, birthdays and special occasions too. I can't play piano very well either. Something about coordinating both hands musically I can't figure out. Strange, since I can play guitar pretty well.
The difference is, I don't claim to be a UPS wizard, CPA, receptionist or wedding planner. I also don't play piano in a band, or for a living.
What I do put my name on I take pride in though. My posts and public writings are one of those things. So is the boat.

[Froggystyle]

Ya.....maybe some day. For right now parts is parts. http://www.***boat.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Actually it can be a cool job at times. Wait till I post the HID upgrade on my Suburban.
I bought this bitchen diamond cut headlight kit. Then I'm adding an 8000k
O-NEX HID Conversion kit.
Also adding diamond cut turn signal buckets w/LEDs.
I'm taking before and after pics to be posted later. Hopefully I'm going to be
doing the install this weekend.
Will that work for any of the new Chevy trucks? I am looking for a new van and would definitely like to upgrade the lights.

[HCS]

Will that work for any of the new Chevy trucks? I am looking for a new van and would definitely like to upgrade the lights.
I work with a guy that's a specialist in those goodies. He's setting me up.
try www.matrixracing.com for your application.
He says you can pretty much upgrade any vehicle.

[mike37]

Not hung, just thought to be somewhat illiterate.
It isn't like we can't figure out what you meant to say, it is just that it is incredulous to me that someone would have so little consideration for the impression being left on the rest of the world.
Internet forum or not, the inability to spell correctly casts a shadow that smacks of poor education, accurate or not.
I personally take pride in what I present to the public, and this is the public. If it isn't important to you... awesome. But you should know that an easy dismissal of basic punctuation, spelling and composition skills will create an image that you may not wish to have created.
how about the impression of an ass that you are giving right now !
we aren't writing any books hear so give it a rest

[Froggystyle]

how about the impression of an ass that you are giving right now !
we aren't writing any books hear so give it a rest
That would be "writing any books here"
So you don't share my view... so be it. Your post illustrates my point.

[mike37]

That would be "writing any books here"
So you don't share my view... so be it. Your post illustrates my point.
I can read just about any thing that somewhat resembles English
so bad spelling and punctuation are no big deal to me I have nothing to prove

[Froggystyle]

I can read just about any thing that somewhat resembles English
so bad spelling and punctuation are no big deal to me I have nothing to prove
Awesome.

[Rexone]

I agree Froggy. I can't even count the number of peeple I've had through my place in past years that have poor punchuation and can't spell for shit. It's very frusturating.

[*BN*]

No excuses from this post on.
Here is a spell checker for your browsers.
Free program, but those that can't spell probably won't be able to read the instructions to get it show on your browser tool bar.
http://iespell.com/

[HCS]

I agree Froggy. I can't even count the number of peeple I've had through my place in past years that have poor punchuation and can't spell for shit. It's very frusturating.
People that payed attention in english class I would be willing to bet, do a
whole lot better in the job field than people like me that didn't.
The swim suit competition is on Speed Vision right now. :D

[Jrocket]

I agree Froggy. I can't even count the number of peeple I've had through my place in past years that have poor punchuation and can't spell for shit. It's very frusturating.
Any of them rub off on you lately?:D

[AZJD]

Sellping is not ipmrtonat! Yuo cna raed it aynwyas! So I dnot see teh ipomrtnace to the qesutoin, and or stemenat....:D :D :D

[Rexone]

Any of them rub off on you lately?:D
Geezus I hope knot. Some of the stuff they right makes me cringe.

[Jordy]

Geezus I hope knot. Some of the stuff they right makes me cringe.
Me two!!! :D

[Rexone]

Me two!!! :D
And it's not only the spelling. They're grammer and punchuation suck to in many cases.

[Jordy]

And it's not only the spelling. They're grammer and punchuation suck to in many cases.
Beleeve me, I no what your saying. :D

[photo chick]

Sellping is not ipmrtonat! Yuo cna raed it aynwyas! So I dnot see teh ipomrtnace to the qesutoin, and or stemenat....:D :D :D
That is funny....they say as logn as you kep the voules and concenants in a sentnce u can alwys reed a sentnec wehter ist speled wriet ro nto:D :D

[AZJD]

That is funny....they say as logn as you kep the voules and concenants in a sentnce u can alwys reed a sentnec wehter ist speled wriet ro nto:D :D
Damn, your spelling is quite attro....no no, atroccio, no no f@ck it "BAD!":D :D :D

[tcook33]

how about the impression of an ass that you are giving right now !
we aren't writing any books hear so give it a rest
HAHA! Coming from one of the all-time worst 10 "spellers" on ***boat......:eek:
Would you have that opinion if you knew how to spell? :idea:

[photo chick]

Damn, your spelling is quite attro....no no, atroccio, no no f@ck it "BAD!":D :D :D
It took me forever to type it too!!! :D :D

[Jordy]

I can't believe I didn't come up with this idea earlier. It would really be beneficial to quite a few individuals around this place, although I'm not sure that it would interface with the latest version of the Hanslator 2000. :D :D :D
http://www.antiquetech.com/pictures%20thumbnail/wpe5.jpg

[AZJD]

It took me forever to type it too!!! :D :D
It certainly isn't easy to spell a word completely wrong on purpose! I seem to do it really well on accident though!:D

[tcook33]

How did the ability to communicate effectively using the written word become so lost? I have had over 20 people work for me in the last 3 years, nearly all of which dismiss this ability in one phrase... "I can't spell".
Crappy handwriting is one thing... I hate writing too, and I have no idea why schools even teach cursive. But, in response to hating to write, I learned how to write in block letters, so at least I can get my point across if need be.
It seems like I am constantly going around the shop correcting spelling, and this place nearly gives me an aneurysm every time I am on here. For the most part, this forum represents an awful large cross section of middle America. I don't want to be considered a spelling Nazi, but if you are misspelling words, especially in the titles of threads, you are making everyone who reads it think you are a dullard.
Just think about it next time you dismiss proper written communication as "I can't spell". It has the same effect to many people as "I don't bathe". Sure, it is a personal choice, but it affects everyone.
Soapbox session over... back to your regularly scheduled "threds"
Although I agree, I wouldn't go starting a thread about it. Especially when I'm trying to sell a boat. To each his own though.
I deal with this sh*t every day with my employees. We have a very tight program in the office with communication. All of our communication is done through e-mails. 99.9% of the e-mails that come through me have horrible grammar. It's very frustrating to say the least.

[Jesster]

how about the impression of an ass that you are giving right now !
we aren't writing any books hear so give it a rest
I don't think he is coming across as an ass. There is a back button on your browser you donÂ’t like the subject. I don't know Froggy and am no "nut swinger" but I do look forward to meeting him someday. I personally think Froggy's comments are well thought out, and have wondered many times if some of the people on here can spell and punctuate correctly, or are just in a hurry. I personally spell and punctuate pretty well, but still plug everything I post into a spell checker just to make sure I donÂ’t come across as an "imbecile". :D Its not an impression I care to leave, but to each there their theyÂ’re own. :confused:

[AZJD]

I don't think he is coming across as an ass. There is a back button on your browser you donÂ’t like the subject. I don't know Froggy and am no "nut swinger" but I do look forward to meeting him someday. I personally think Froggy's comments are well thought out, and have wondered many times if some of the people on here can spell and punctuate correctly, or are just in a hurry. I personally spell and punctuate pretty well, but still plug everything I post into a spell checker just to make sure I donÂ’t come across as an "imbecile". :D Its not an impression I care to leave, but to each there their theyÂ’re own. :confused:
You knoe Froggy would be way cooler in my opinion if he would come back to Phoenix and cook us some more Trident tip in the Toter Home!:D

[Froggystyle]

Although I agree, I wouldn't go starting a thread about it. Especially when I'm trying to sell a boat. To each his own though.
I know what you mean, but I just can't stop myself.
In fact, it is ironic. Here I am posting about spelling and the image it leaves on others while simultaneously alienating an absurdly large group of boaters. I am guessing that the image I leave of a spelling Nazi will be taken by those with poor spelling skills as a negative, hurting my buisness in the long run.
Crazy double edged sword. I was more curious than anything else why people don't care any more. When I write the updates, my Dad (the original spelling Nazi) spends time re-writing some grammar errors (usually slang or otherwise) and keeping the public releases down the middle. He is correct in that recent current jargon doesn't really have a place in business, but I still do it on occassion, such as the referenced "Tridizzle Custom Bizzle" which is more of a joke than anything else.
I just was thinking about it when someone else posted the question of "how do you tell someone that they stink" earlier, and I realized that I draw a really similar conclusion about spelling errors.
We have all joked before about the lack of control we have for the image that we portray towards people... i.e. A Starbucks cup in hand seems to indicate you are a snob who over-pays for coffee while an AM-PM/7-11 cup indicates you are too cheap to pay for good coffee. None are accurate, but they still make an impression. I am a victim of it on our boats. I would not personally want a triple axle trailer on our boat. It isn't neccessary due to our boat weight, it increases the cost and the weight and it is way tougher to trailer in tight spots. That said, using a tandem is seen as cheaping out on it. So, we do the triple. Instead of explaining why the double... we just do the triple.

[GHT]

I am one of the worst spellers in the world, but I have (on many occasions) opened Word and checked word for misspelling. I don't always check and don't think this place (***boat) is the proper place to worry about spelling and Grammar. I'm sure all the people worried, shocked, frightened, or having Aneurisms could find some kind of an English Web Site.
Personally, I would hate to be the reason for someone's breakdown. Then again I would think all the perfect people would be more concerned about the NON-Boating threads... WWOOOOOOO! now that is something to stress over.:rolleyes:
***boat is a fun place to hang out in / at and the people are unique and mostly GREAT... Sorry all of us can't spell very good but I can do MANY things better than all you Grammar people and I don't bitch about it..:idea: I accept you as fellow boater that I enjoy chatting with and hanging with at the lake...:idea:
Well, I could bitch about EASYKILLER's spelling..:D (j/k)

[Froggystyle]

You knoe Froggy would be way cooler in my opinion if he would come back to Phoenix and cook us some more Trident tip in the Toter Home!:D
Soon. Very soon. I still want to move there.

[Kachina26]

I feel for ya, Froggy. Drives me nuts too.
Three words: their there and they're
One little mark "," :D
I agree. Since when are we being graded on our posts???
Not being graded, but just like people that you speak to in person judge you by how you speak, people who read what you write get their impressions through how you communicate. Seriously, what you think of those who speak ebonics type english?
I think that one is more of a typing error than spelling.
I can't stand to read posts that have a lack punctuation marks and capitol letters.
capitol letter (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030319-1.html)

[Froggystyle]

I am one of the worst spellers in the world, but I have (on many occasions) opened Word and checked word for misspelling. I don't always check and don't think this place (***boat) is the proper place to worry about spelling and Grammar. I'm sure all the people worried, shocked, frightened, or having Aneurisms could find some kind of an English Web Site.
I totally get it. I just don't understand why it doesn't matter any more. Some very, very, very successful people we work with use the same rationale, and while I don't think any less of them, it makes an impression on me regardless.
I got the Google toolbar a while back, and it has a built-in spell check function for stuff like this. I use it all the time, especially when I have a question regarding spelling. As an example, I hit it in this post, not sure if I had "rationale" correct.
I will tell you this though, it affects my work environment. I have to proof-read everything that goes out the door. Even if spell-checked, the programs rarely can put the spelling in context, so you end up with a correctly spelled, incorrectly used word in a lot of cases.

[GHT]

I totally get it. I just don't understand why it doesn't matter any more. Some very, very, very successful people we work with use the same rationale, and while I don't think any less of them, it makes an impression on me regardless.
I got the Google toolbar a while back, and it has a built-in spell check function for stuff like this. I use it all the time, especially when I have a question regarding spelling. As an example, I hit it in this post, not sure if I had "rationale" correct.
I will tell you this though, it effects my work environment. I have to proof-read everything that goes out the door. Even if spell-checked, the programs rarely can put the spelling in context, so you end up with a correctly spelled, incorrectly used word in a lot of cases.
Point taken... The word I hate, and it is used too much is.... THAT! I see it used all the time.
I do have to ask you a question though. Why have you been starting all these controversial Threads? You bored this Winter, or are you just trying to piss off people?:confused: :idea: :D

[uvindex]

I will tell you this though, it effects my work environment. I have to proof-read everything that goes out the door. Even if spell-checked, the programs rarely can put the spelling in context, so you end up with a correctly spelled, incorrectly used word in a lot of cases.So true.... ("effects" above should be "affects") :D

[Froggystyle]

Point taken... The word I hate, and it is used too much is.... THAT! I see it used all the time.
I do have to ask you a question though. Why have you been starting all these controversial Threads? You bored this Winter, or are you just trying to piss off people?:confused: :idea: :D
In all honesty, I didn't start any of the controversial threads. RiverDave posted a glowing review of the boat, which of course led to me having a huge head and being an egotistical asshole, and then Waldo posted the "Call me a Trident Hater" thread. Both of which I responded to heavily.
I really don't think people who don't know how to spell realize the impression they leave. They probably wouldn't stand for it if they did. I think that the context of "just the Internet", or "just a schedule board" seems to negate the need to spell properly, or write legibly.
When you don't smoke, and someone who does gets in your car, their choice to smoke affects you. You might not want to think less of them, but you do. Once you stop smoking, and you realize how badly smokers smell, how bad their breath is and how far away you can make that decision about them from... you have a moment of clarity and you realize what everyone must have thought about you the whole time.
Same deal here. Except, that for the most part we are discussing this with adults who will make no effort to go learn how to spell any better. They won't ever know what it looks like from the other side, and will likely not change. Nor is there a large population of people who learned late in life how to spell better, like there is people who have quit smoking and given testimonial.

[Froggystyle]

So true.... ("effects" above should be "affects") :D
Thought about that one actually. You are right. I inaccurately guessed that "affecting" was to adopt while "effecting" was to have an... ahhh... hell. I guessed wrong. :D
BTW, that is the kind of shit my Dad always catches of mine, and basically calls me illiterate for it. :D

[Jbb]

When you don't smoke, and someone who does gets in your car, their choice to smoke effects you.
effects?

[AZJD]

Soon. Very soon. I still want to move there.
How's the testing on the stern drive setup going?

[photo chick]

effects?
Nice catch....:D :D
Now kindly remove that sig line!!! Peopel moght git teh wonrg opoinon of me!!!

[Froggystyle]

effects?
See above. At least I am consistent. I was trying to figure out where the other one was... I knew I had done it twice, but couldn't find it! :D

[Jbb]

Nice catch....:D :D
Now kindly remove that sig line!!! Peopel moght git teh wonrg opoinon of me!!!
Now that I have seen your anus, it's time to see the rack...... :D

[Froggystyle]

How's the testing on the stern drive setup going?
Very well. We are doing load testing this weekend with a bunch of folks in the boat to see how many people it will roll on plane with in the boat. The jet had no problem with 14. We will see if that is the same with the outdrive.
I am thinking about the first trip already.

[photo chick]

Now that I have seen your anus, it's time to see the rack...... :D
Honey you've seen my rack....you don't remember?

[Jbb]

Honey you've seen my rack....you don't remember?
Oh yeah.....:D ....disregard....

[Jbb]

That memorable!!!!!!!!!! You forgot:D
thanks for removing the sig line
Chicks dig me.......:D

[photo chick]

Chicks dig me.......:D
:D yeah we do!:D

[Boatcop]

I pride myself on my spelling and grammar. Probably because the Nuns beat it into me in grade school. I remember all though school, every assignment in every class was graded on spelling. It could be geography class, and we'd still get points off for misspelled words.
When my daughter (now 33 years old) was in school, elementary and high school, I'd check her homework, and just about every other word was misspelled. Now she had beautiful flowing handwriting, but the spelling made her look like a moron. Her answer? They don't take off for spelling.
WHAT! It was English Class. Book reports. Essay questions. And sure enough, she'd get the papers back, and they were scored 100%. I believe that the public school system is at fault here.
Now that "texting" has caught on, I fear it will get even worse.
Another pet peeve of mine is "copspeak". As a police supervisor, I cringe whenever I get reports that have stuff like:
"I exited the front left driver's side door of my marked patrol unit."
WHAT? You mean "I got out of the car"
"I made contact with the operator of the vehicle"
WHAT? Made contact? What was he? From outer space?
"I approached the front entryway of the residence."
WHAT? You walked up to the house.
Also when people use "passive" phrases. Like:
"The prisoner was booked into jail."
(Who did it?)
"The prisoner was booked into jail by me."
WHAT? How about "I booked the prisoner into jail."
And all the things people have already hit on. There, their, they're. To, too, two. Know, no, now. And one of my favorites. "Quite"
"There were no sounds on the street that night. It was really quite."
I don't know who's teaching report writing in the academies, or maybe they've been watching too many Dragnet and Adam-12 reruns, but it seems I have to retrain most of the rookies when they get to the streets.
Now I'm not perfect, and sometimes a typo (typographical error, for you grammar Nazis) or two might slip through, but they're pretty rare.
I've even been known to go over posts on here that I wrote months ago, and edit a misspelling I inadvertantly made.

[Jrocket]

I pride myself on my spelling and grammer.
Aitn get'n any better that dat!.:D

[GHT]

In all honesty, I didn't start any of the controversial threads. RiverDave posted a glowing review of the boat, which of course led to me having a huge head and being an egotistical asshole, and then Waldo posted the "Call me a Trident Hater" thread. Both of which I responded to heavily.
I really don't think people who don't know how to spell realize the impression they leave. They probably wouldn't stand for it if they did. I think that the context of "just the Internet", or "just a schedule board" seems to negate the need to spell properly, or write legibly.
When you don't smoke, and someone who does gets in your car, their choice to smoke affects you. You might not want to think less of them, but you do. Once you stop smoking, and you realize how badly smokers smell, how bad their breath is and how far away you can make that decision about them from... you have a moment of clarity and you realize what everyone must have thought about you the whole time. Same deal here. Except, that for the most part we are discussing this with adults who will make no effort to go learn how to spell any better. They won't ever know what it looks like from the other side, and will likely not change. Nor is there a large population of people who learned late in life how to spell better, like there is people who have quit smoking and given testimonial.
Oh, I get it.... Now you're calling me a Smoker?!! :mad:
(J/K):D

[Boatcop]

Aitn get'n any better that dat!.:D
As I said. I'm not perfect. :D

[Jrocket]

As I said. I'm not perfect. :D
I'll take the quote down for a get out of ticket free coupon!:D

[LaveyJet]

"I have nothing but contempt for anyone who can spell a word only one way." Thomas Jefferson

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Not everyone, who communicates on these HB forums, is as educated as you appear to be, Wes. Clearly, some members have a better command of the English language than others. I have no doubt that many of those you view as beneth you are skillful in areas where you are not. Because someone chose to focus on building high performance and not on winning spelling bees, hardly qualifies them as a "dullard". Someone, who portrays himself as the all seeing, all knowing, master off all things, should understand that all men are not created equal. Seems you're just too high on your horse to get it.

[Moneypitt]

I think the balance point question is, "is it easy on the eyes?" Is the post easy or hard to scan through? Posts without proper periods, commas, caps, or ALL CAPS, lower case i (s) instead of I (s). A written word should flow off the page the same way it flowed on to it. If the flow of the writer isn't there, the flow of the reader can't be either. I do my best to use proper grammer and spelling, but I'm not that good at it. I agree that what you write, and how you write it, has a great deal to do with how you are received....MP

[OCMerrill]

I'll take the quote down for a get out of ticket free coupon!:D
:eek:
Blackmail of a Peace officer! Nice.:D :D :D

[Mrs. Bordsmnj]

Bad spelling and grammar is annoying sometimes but I would never judge someone to be a "dullard" because of it.
But thats just me.
:D

[2Driver]

I have my moments...
If it makes you feel any better, I am very bad at administrative work, terrible at getting stuff put in a box and shipped UPS .
A properly taped and shipped UPS box is just a reflection of you. Have you no pride man! :D

[Sleek-Jet]

I'm a horrible speller... I'll admit that.
Any email I right goes threw spell check before I hit "send"... several times if need be. Grammer is another area in which I come up short to. And sentance structure sometimes.
But I figure that ***boat is more along the lines of conversation. Spoken words and what not... I try my best to be good.
:D

[Froggystyle]

A properly taped and shipped UPS box is just a reflection of you. Have you no pride man! :D
Very much so! So I hire someone to do it properly. That and filing. If it was up to me, there would be piles instead of files. ;)

[Froggystyle]

I'm going to disagree with your entire sentiment on this one Mr. Wes..
...Nobody gives a shit about the spelling of a few words here in there.. Rather they take away a portion of the experience. RD
Actually, not only was that a great story, but no misspellings jumped out at me when I just re-read it for the second time. With misspellings, it wouldn't have been as impactful. It would have distracted from the story as a result.
Your writing style is conversational, which is wonderful in a setting such as this, where conversation is essentially what is being related. It might have worked well in a magazine editorial section too. Great narrative, good spelling etc...
You didn't make a point using that one.

[Jordy]

I'm a horrible speller... I'll admit that.
You don't say:
Any email I right goes threw spell check before I hit "send"... several times if need be. Grammer is another area in which I come up short to. And sentance structure sometimes.
:D
Dullard. :notam: :D
p.s. I did get your humor in the post, just wanted to use the opportunity to call you a dullard.

[Sleek-Jet]

You don't say:
Dullard. :notam: :D
p.s. I did get your humor in the post, just wanted to use the opportunity to call you a dullard.
I expect no less.... :D

[OCMerrill]

Wes,
Do you offer anti-dullard software with a Trident purchase? :D :D :)

[Tremor Therapy]

I think the balance point question is, "is it easy on the eyes?" Is the post easy or hard to scan through?
An excellent point! I have to create contract proposals for customers on a daily basis, so I am one of the poor individuals who must try and ensure that all of my spelling and grammar are correct.
I am not a spelling Nazi in any way shape or form, but I will admit that there are posts from certain people that I will not bother trying to read. I probably have missed some things that may have been educational, or even entertaining, but trying to find my secret decoder ring to read through their posts is just not worth it. I end up with a headache trying to figure out what word they were trying to spell, what point they were trying to make, not quite sure if the subjects in the same sentence relate to one another, and if they did, how?

[hoolign]

How did the ability to communicate effectively using the written word become so lost? I have had over 20 people work for me in the last 3 years, nearly all of which dismiss this ability in one phrase... "I can't spell".
Crappy handwriting is one thing... I hate writing too, and I have no idea why schools even teach cursive. But, in response to hating to write, I learned how to write in block letters, so at least I can get my point across if need be.
It seems like I am constantly going around the shop correcting spelling, and this place nearly gives me an aneurysm every time I am on here. For the most part, this forum represents an awful large cross section of middle America. I don't want to be considered a spelling Nazi, but if you are misspelling words, especially in the titles of threads, you are making everyone who reads it think you are a dullard.
Just think about it next time you dismiss proper written communication as "I can't spell". It has the same effect to many people as "I don't bathe". Sure, it is a personal choice, but it affects everyone.
Soapbox session over... back to your regularly scheduled "threds"
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

[Froggystyle]

Wes,
Do you offer anti-dullard software with a Trident purchase? :D :D :)
Any interest in it negates the need... ;)

[Screaming Pete]

Spelling is not one of my strong points, i spend the time with my children over the years with thier weekly spelling words and believe it or not it has helped, but being in the printing business looking for typo's and other punctuations issues just comes naturally. but i cant even buy a birthday card without curitiquing them. i spell checked 5 words typing this.............:rolleyes:

[Froggystyle]

Spelling is not one of my strong points, i spend the time with my children over the years with thier weekly spelling words and belive it or not it has helped, but being in the printing business looking for typo's and other punctuations issues just comes naturally. but i cant even buy a birthday card without curitiquing them. i spell checked 5 words typing this.............:rolleyes:
You might want to look for an English spellchecker there bro... ;)
Are you going to go for a ride with us this weekend?

[mrs.robk]

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
LOL!
That was good :D

[OCMerrill]

Any interest in it negates the need... ;)
I see your point.:) Scratch that: I read your text and your point has been understood. :)

[ratso]

It's funny how this strikes a nerve with so many people... it's the internet... who cares... blah blah blah... instead if just saying "Hey I'm a dumbass and can't spell and I'm too damn lazy to look it up so I can spell it right and maybe actually learn something instead of looking like a complete and total idiot"...http://***boat.com/ubb/graemlins/idea_2.gif
Ratso... spelling bee champ... 5 years straight.:D
If I spell something wrong, it's because I just hit a wrong key or got in a hurry... or spelling something like "fukkin'...";)

[HM]

It's funny how this strikes a nerve with so many people... it's the internet... who cares... blah blah blah... instead if just saying "Hey I'm a dumbass and can't spell and I'm too damn lazy to look it up so I can spell it right and maybe actually learn something instead of looking like a complete and total idiot"...http://***boat.com/ubb/graemlins/idea_2.gif
Ratso... spelling bee champ... 5 years straight.:D
If I spell something wrong, it's because I just hit a wrong key or got in a hurry... or spelling something like "fukkin'...";)
dito :D
I also hate when people are redundant or repeat themselves or keep saying the same thing over and over. :D

[Debbolas]

:D sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain can think :D

[ratso]

dito :D
I also hate when people are redundant or repeat themselves or keep saying the same thing over and over. :D
I've been accused of that, like when I'm trying to convice a chick that I'm really not such a bad guy lol...:D

[Tremor Therapy]

It's funny how this strikes a nerve with so many people... it's the internet... who cares... blah blah blah...
Ratso,
That was one of the points I was trying to make. It is the internet, so if it looks like a headache to me, I'll just move on, my loss. :idea:

[mike37]

wow Froggystyle
I wasn't such a dullard when myself and some other were helping you figure out a simple mechanism to reduce the throw on I believe it was your forward and revers control on your Trident boats :confused:

[EAZYKILLER2006]

I am one of the worst spellers in the world, but I have (on many occasions) opened Word and checked word for misspelling. I don't always check and don't think this place (***boat) is the proper place to worry about spelling and Grammar. I'm sure all the people worried, shocked, frightened, or having Aneurisms could find some kind of an English Web Site.
Personally, I would hate to be the reason for someone's breakdown. Then again I would think all the perfect people would be more concerned about the NON-Boating threads... WWOOOOOOO! now that is something to stress over.:rolleyes:
***boat is a fun place to hang out in / at and the people are unique and mostly GREAT... Sorry all of us can't spell very good but I can do MANY things better than all you Grammar people and I don't bitch about it..:idea: I accept you as fellow boater that I enjoy chatting with and hanging with at the lake...:idea:
Well, I could bitch about EASYKILLER's spelling..:D (j/k)
lol :D thats it!!! another "add" to my "get f0cked up" ...list wait till i see you on the water!!!! I'm gonna sick jack on you! no mercy !!!!http://www.spacegravy.com/sgmedia/glittergraphics/cocktailGlitter/jackdaniels.gifya going down...J/D is my friend...:devil:

[rrrr]

It seems like I am constantly going around the shop correcting spelling, and this place nearly gives me an aneurysm every time I am on here. For the most part, this forum represents an awful large cross section of middle America. I don't want to be considered a spelling Nazi, but if you are misspelling words, especially in the titles of threads, you are making everyone who reads it think you are a dullard.
I guess this is a bad time to tell you I noticed a couple of misspelled words on the back page of your Trident brochure. :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :D

[Ken F]

:D sometimes my fingers type faster than my brain can think :D
24 WPM?:eek:

[EAZYKILLER2006]

Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
lol i saw this!!! one before!!!:devil: good one!!! point??? yepper!!!! thanks everyone!!!! cus really now? i think "i " have been "ragged" the most over this "spelling" shait...but "in my defense"....i would like to see the ppl "up on here" (the boards) try and type with "nails" as long as mine!!!...the worst problem i had was..."why does an "N" follow all my typed words"? WTF:mad: couldnt figure that out,.... (for longer than "I" want to admit)::confused: ( i thought THE moderators were f with me, to make sure i check my posts be for i hit submit:mad: ...lol...SSSHHHH it was when i "hit" the space bar "my thumb nail" would hit the "N" lol ~well heck call me blonde....i never really noticed "that" was the problem.......but... sorry everyone the "nails" are staying...so i guess my f0cked up "typing" is here to "stay" also :D ...well, now that i bored ya allhttp://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/style_emoticons/default/yawn.gif
I'm going out to "PARTY" ITS FRIDAY NITE!!!

[Froggystyle]

I guess this is a bad time to tell you I noticed a couple of misspelled words on the back page of your Trident brochure. :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :D
Tell me about it. Back to what I was talking about. I haven't found one person to work for me that spells properly, writes legibly or otherwise.
Most speak well enough, but the brochure was a perfect example. It happens everywhere I turn. Not just on ***boat, but everywhere in my life.

[wsuwrhr]

Tell me about it. Back to what I was talking about. I haven't found one person to work for me that spells properly, writes legibly or otherwise.
Most speak well enough, but the brochure was a perfect example. It happens everywhere I turn. Not just on ***boat, but everywhere in my life.
Proof readers buddy, proof readers.

[Ziggy]

I pride myself on my spelling and grammar. Probably because the Nuns beat it into me in grade school. I remember all though school, every assignment in every class was graded on spelling. It could be geography class, and we'd still get points off for misspelled words.
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Threw or through ? You choose which is correct :D :D :D
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I'll take one of those coupons Jrocket recieved, thank you. ;) :)

[blown65]

LOL, seems like every forum you go to eventually ends up having this conversation. Personally I find it kinda silly but thats just me.
Speaking of bad grammer etc etc. Have you ever been talking and almost just say LOL instead of actually saying the words. Kinda hard to explain that one. heh

[Ziggy]

Wes, your point is well taken by most, I think, but in this world of internet forums and text messaging short cuts are the norm. Misspellings are frequent but I believe many are just time related or like myself, fat fingers on the keyboard. It's also evident that some folks haven't grasped the effect that might affect others when improper words are used in the sentence structure ;), yet we all can still compute and comprehend what they are trying to convey.
I do pride myself on being correct because it matters to me, but I'll never claim that it bothers me so much I have to make a general critique on a public forum.
You yourself have seen the same errors in your own posts which others have pointed out proving you make the same human mistakes all the rest of us do.
"Spell Check" is not the answer or else your effect/affect wouldn't have had to be a guess, this is strictly a learned quality one must possess. I certainly wouldn't think this reflects on you as being a "Dullard", do you?
Respectfully,
Ziggy
:)

[Moneypitt]

Zig, hate to tell you this but he's correct and would have been correct had he used "thru" also.
BUT,we seem to have a problem with 'RECEIVED".
Therefore, NO get-outta-jail-free-card.
Rio:D
Yep, after c it all changes. Why? Damm english language........
PS What is the rule after JAACK, er Jack..........

[Ziggy]

Zig, hate to tell you this but he's correct and would have been correct had he used "thru" also.
BUT,we seem to have a problem with 'RECEIVED".
Therefore, NO get-outta-jail-free-card.
Rio:D
Dang it! Busted. ;) Um, maybe it was my fat fingers?:confused: :idea: Actually, as I read it again just now the proper word in that sentence probably should have been "throughout".
I guess I'll go ahead and pay for that future ticket myself afterall:( :D
Can't even tell you how many times a day I write the word receive.:rolleyes:

[Debbolas]

24 WPM?:eek:
On a good day ;)

[havifun]

How did the ability to communicate effectively using the written word become so lost? I have had over 20 people work for me in the last 3 years, nearly all of which dismiss this ability in one phrase... "I can't spell".
Crappy handwriting is one thing... I hate writing too, and I have no idea why schools even teach cursive. But, in response to hating to write, I learned how to write in block letters, so at least I can get my point across if need be.
It seems like I am constantly going around the shop correcting spelling, and this place nearly gives me an aneurysm every time I am on here. For the most part, this forum represents an awful large cross section of middle America. I don't want to be considered a spelling Nazi, but if you are misspelling words, especially in the titles of threads, you are making everyone who reads it think you are a dullard.
Just think about it next time you dismiss proper written communication as "I can't spell". It has the same effect to many people as "I don't bathe". Sure, it is a personal choice, but it affects everyone.
Soapbox session over... back to your regularly scheduled "threds"
Oh my fukkin god! HERE WE GO AGAIN...Who really cares? Someone start a poll...

[Tom Brown]

How did the ability to communicate effectively using the written word become so lost? I have had over 20 people work for me in the last 3 years, nearly all of which dismiss this ability in one phrase... "I can't spell".
I would contend that effective communication and good spelling skills are not one in the same.
I'm not a particularly good speller but I don't feel it is a disability. If I wanted to be an editor, it would be a problem. I'm good enough, however, that I can do pretty much anything else in life that suits my fancy.
I'm not advocating mediocrity but good communication depends on organized thought, making concise and understandable points, as well as the odd catchy sound byte.
Look at RD. His posts host frequent misspellings but the guy can make a point as well as anyone. If he were a world class speller, I doubt it would improve his ability to communicate in any way.
If EAZYKILLER2006 were a better speller, do you think she would be able to more effectively convey the idea that she enjoys orgasms? I think not.
I frequently cringe when I look back at my own posts that contain typos, misspellings, confused grammar, missing words, editing mistakes, etc. Many of my posts hit the forum without even a quick proof reading. I'll bet others do the same. This is a social forum. It's relaxed and conversational in nature.
Each person has their strengths and weaknesses. The loss is ours if we judge people by one skill without looking at the person as a whole.
Let's not be petty. Let's step out, befriend, and accept everyone who hangs out with us and has a good heart.
That is all.

[ratso]

Oh my fukkin god! HERE WE GO AGAIN...Who really cares? Someone start a poll...
People don't spell every word right on here... not even me, although it's sad when people misspell shit they should have learned in 2nd grade... http://***boat.com/ubb/graemlins/idea_2.gif
I knew a guy that owned Texas Safari near me. He passed away in jail but that is another story... He made millions, but only had an 8th grade education. I was amazed that someone with practically no schooling could make it like that in this day and age... and fortunately he wasn't on the internet making a fool of himself with his limited spelling skills...:D

[ratso]

If EAZYKILLER2006 were a better speller, do you think she would be able to more effectively convey the idea that she enjoys orgasms? I think not.
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LMAO... Good point!:D