If you were to buy an economy car which one would you buy?

[DILLIGAF]

I am leaning towards a Honda Civic or Accord. It would be nice to buy an American car but nothing really impresses me American wise.
Suggestions?

[ratso]

I had my son in 2 Honda Accords growing up... great cars.

[Trailer Park Casanova]

Honda fit, or the Civic for cheap.
The Accord for style.
Ya take them outta the box, drive them for 10 years, sell them for a good $$ and get another.

[wsuwrhr]

....plenty of inside space for cargo and/or people. I like mine.
I have the Turbo II motor and a manual 5 speed, I still get good mileage. The aspirated motor is a dog in my opinion, but the turbo I probably gets good mileage too.
If you are a GM only guy, the HHR is probably the same platform although I have never seen the inside of one.
Brian

[OutCole'd]

How is the Saturn doing?

[whiteworks]

1989 yugo,:D make it 2 of them in case one gets a flat or somthing

[DILLIGAF]

....plenty of inside space for cargo and/or people. I like mine.
I have the Turbo II motor and a manual 5 speed, I still get good mileage. The aspirated motor is a dog in my opinion, but the turbo I probably gets good mileage too.
If you are a GM only guy, the HHR is probably the same platform although I have never seen the inside of one.
Brian
Not really an economy car is it?

[RiverToysJas]

Civic! Can't beat a Honda in the long run. Our DelSol is 11 years old w/ nearly 200K on it. it could use paint, but other than normal fluids, filters, brakes, and tires, it just recently had to have a water pump replaced. Other than that, it runs a good as the day we brought it home from the dealer. Still getting low-mid 30mpg and will run to the river @ triple digits if asked to.
RTJas :D

[Boozer]

Toyota Camry.
The Camry has got better styling then any of the Sedans out there for it's price. You can get fully loaded Camry with Nav., Leather, Heated Seats, V6, Sunroof, and etc. for under 30K.
If you want a NICE, NICE ride without breaking the bank to much you might consider looking at the Acura TL or the Acura TSX.
My next commuter is going to be an Acura TL.

[Big Kahunaa]

1989 yugo,:D make it 2 of them in case one gets a flat or somthing
try to find one
honda is the only way to go

[SummerBreeze]

Toyota Corolla

[rivergoer]

chevy hhr...32 mpg.....lt...with the bigger four banger. i got one for the wife good car lots of room

[YeLLowBoaT]

Focus hatch back with a stick... you can get them for under 9k brand new with AC. They really do have alot of pep for what they are.
The car that shocked me on how much power it had was the escort ZX2 with a stick.
That being said I have not been in any of the newer GM "econ cars", but I have been in the honda and the toyota... and for what they are asking for them... you can get way more from some one else.

[catman-do]

I personally like the new Camry. Good styling, same on gas, cheaper on price.

[LAND_LOVER69]

....plenty of inside space for cargo and/or people. I like mine.
I have the Turbo II motor and a manual 5 speed, I still get good mileage. The aspirated motor is a dog in my opinion, but the turbo I probably gets good mileage too.
If you are a GM only guy, the HHR is probably the same platform although I have never seen the inside of one.
Brian
The HHR sits on a Cobalt platform. Both of which are nice cars.

[HammerDown]

Toyota Corolla-S (5/speed)
I have one, solid car, quiet on the road, plenty of room for 4, huge trunk, fun to drive and ...it really does get 41 mpg hwy.

[beaverretriever]

Hands down a 4cyl Ford Fusion. IMHO they one of the best looking, pretty spunky and beat out Honda and Toyota in Autotrend and Car and Driver test.
My mom needs a cheap daily driver so we have been looking. We drove the Civic, Corrola, and Fusion. It wasn't even a coparison. The Civic felt like it was made out of a tin can. The Corrola is a good car but god awful looking. Niether the Corrola or the Civic felt like a big car inside. The Fusion actually felt like a higher end, bigger car.
Plus, you can race it in NASCAR on the weekends... :devil:
Good Luck.

[Mrs.HLB]

Hands down a 4cyl Ford Fusion. IMHO they one of the best looking, pretty spunky and beat out Honda and Toyota in Autotrend and Car and Driver test.
My mom needs a cheap daily driver so we have been looking. We drove the Civic, Corrola, and Fusion. It wasn't even a coparison. The Civic felt like it was made out of a tin can. The Corrola is a good car but god awful looking. Niether the Corrola or the Civic felt like a big car inside. The Fusion actually felt like a higher end, bigger car.
Plus, you can race it in NASCAR on the weekends... :devil:
Good Luck.
You are right!! I got my Fusion about 2 weeks ago and I am getting about 26 MPH in traffic. I got the 4 cyl. Love it! It is so comfortable.. Let me know Tom if you need a hook up!
Mrs.HLB

[riverbound]

chevy hhr...32 mpg.....lt...with the bigger four banger. i got one for the wife good car lots of room
Dont lie...its your car, hers is the 2500HD ;)

[SHAKE-YO-AZZ]

toyota pirus

[rivergoer]

Dont lie...its your car, hers is the 2500HD ;)
hey i drove the truck today:D :D but miss the small needle movement on th hhr:( hahaha

[Trailer Park Casanova]

....plenty of inside space for cargo and/or people. I like mine.
I have the Turbo II motor and a manual 5 speed, I still get good mileage. The aspirated motor is a dog in my opinion, but the turbo I probably gets good mileage too.
If you are a GM only guy, the HHR is probably the same platform although I have never seen the inside of one.
Brian
Daughter has that PT Crusier too. She loves it. Peppy and good MPG.
She checked out the HHR and it was gutless.
Nice interior, nice vech, but no power.

[blown65]

Honda for me too if I was doing something economical. (which im not. LOL)

[Baja Big Dog]

Toaster Scion

[Boozer]

Toaster Scion
:yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

[ZBODaytona]

My girl has a toyota Corolla...The S which is what she has actually looks pretty cool, though the other versions i am not fond of, i like the civic too...also i think the car version of the scion is nice, though i am not too sure if anything short of a hybrid can beat the corolla's milage. She get around 35 in the city and 40 is her best....Depends on if you want somehting like an accord or a civic...civic and corolla or the accord and camry...haven't heard much about the fusion though had some freinds with chevy small car and they weren't happy with them.

[boatnam2]

i bought a hyudia a year ago for 4k and it works good..call it purple rain!

[Mrs.Racer277]

I love my new Honda Accord :D Sucked giving hubby back his truck, but the car is great on gas with all my Havi trips.

[Outnumbered]

If I was gay, I'd buy a Prius:D

[RitcheyRch]

A few years back I bought a used 1998 Civic LX sedan with 106K miles on it. I bought it from the original owner that was anal about maintenance. I still drive it and it now has 180K on it and is still ultra-reliable.

[Outnumbered]

Civic or Corolla, can't go wrong with either.

[BRSTQUEST]

Civic or Corolla, can't go wrong with either.
Both of these cars are good for the job they were designed for. I went with the Toyota Corolla for two reasons. First, Toyota was much more willing to deal on the car. I paid 13,000 OTD for mine. It is a decent little car to bang miles on and not have to worry about. Iam getting 34 to 38 MPG depending on traffic and my foot. The other reason I went with the Toyota is you do not see anyone trying to do things with it. This lowers my chance of having the damn thing stolen. Due to Civic's popularity with kids customizing them, they are a very popular car to steal. And Honda's are the easiest car to steal hands down. I keep the Toyota a lil dirty and all i've done to it is tint the windows, so people who want to steal cars just walk right by (KNOCK ON WOOD)....

[redi4fun]

What about the Hyundai Sonata. It looks just like the accord, has a great safety rating and you can get a v-6 for about the same price as a Honda 4 cyl.
I have had Hondas and know they are super reliable, anybody have experience with Hyundai.

[Tom Brown]

What about the Hyundai Sonata.
Or perhaps even an economy car like their Elantra. :cool:
I also like the Fusion real well. Those cars are very comfortable and have a lot of class. The four in our car pool are usually in for repairs so I don't drive them too often. The car pool administrator told me there have been times when all four are in the shop at once for mechanical failures. I've never had a Fusion break down on me, though.

[John.]

get a Corvette. They say they get up to 29 mpg. that's pretty economical. just keep your foot out of it.

[Outnumbered]

Or perhaps even an economy car like their Elantra. :cool:
I also like the Fusion real well. Those cars are very comfortable and have a lot of class. The four in our car pool are usually in for repairs so I don't drive them too often. The car pool administrator told me there have been times when all four are in the shop at once for mechanical failures. I've never had a Fusion break down on me, though.
My cousin has a Fusion with 40k on it and it is a total POS. Has left her stranded several times and is always in the shop.

[Screemy1]

How is the Saturn doing?
I just got an Ion the first week of Jan. I have 3700 miles on it and I am getting 30 mpg consistantly... i have two mountain passes I have to drive through so I needed a little more engine then some..... and I drive at 80 mph consistantly..... would get better mpg if slower and no mountains to climb.... this is the last year of the ion.... then they will have an Opel rebadge that will cost more.... I only paid 12600 otd is has a 2.2 4 cyl, with man trans... I climb the hill at 60 to 70 in 4th gear, and I can pass in third but the motor is wound pretty high... good luck in your econo search...

[DILLIGAF]

Thanks and keep it coming folks. I am going to check out the Civic and the Corolla. Maybe I will up it to the Accord but probably not. I was all set to check out the Fusion but am a little scared of that one now.
Has to be an economy car with lots of reliability. That is my main criteria. I want to be able to do very little maintenance on it and will mainly be driving it around OC/RIV CO and out to the river along the 40. My truck will be kept at the lake house.
I have been driving nothing but big trucks for many years and will probably get claustrophobiac in the little car....lol

[Mrs.Racer277]

.
I have been driving nothing but big trucks for many years and will probably get claustrophobiac in the little car....lol
It is kinda scary at first....Drove a truck or SUV for over 10 years
Good Luck :)

[Jyruiz]

I have been driving nothing but big trucks for many years and will probably get claustrophobiac in the little car....lol
Yes you will. Too bad about the Fusion, cause it really is a nice car and bigger than the Civic and Corolla. Good luck with what ever you end up with.

[DILLIGAF]

what happened to your "band-wagon" , did it break down ??? :confused: :)
Seems that way. Clippers and Lakers are both staggering right now.

[SHOTKALLIN]

Buy AMERICAN! DODGE NITRO?, PT CRUISER, CHEVY HHR, GMC ENVOY:D SATURN ?

[DILLIGAF]

Buy AMERICAN! DODGE NITRO?, PT CRUISER, CHEVY HHR, GMC ENVOY:D SATURN ?
I would prefer to but I am going to try to buy the best product for a fair price. Shame to say but when it comes to economy cars it seems we Americans are way behind.

[superdave013]

I had 2 different GEO Metro's. First one went 60K trouble free miles until it got hit. It was parked with out me in it thankfully.
Second one went 85K with only one set of tires (those 19.00 tires fit those cars).
Hey, at the time they were under 8K brand new and I got 50mpg out of the first and just a lil better out of the second one.
I ended up moving close to work so I sold the second one to my friends kid for 800 bucks.
The down side is when you push in the cig lighter the car slows down. lol
They did what they were for. But now that I'm older I'd give up some milage for something comfy like a Camery.

[Cole Trickle]

get a Corvette. They say they get up to 29 mpg. that's pretty economical. just keep your foot out of it.
My 550 HP 6 speed vette gets/got 33+ MPG on the freeway if you stayed out of the boost.
I typically averaged about 22 MPG driving around town because the blower whine sounds so cool;):D

[DILLIGAF]

I had 2 different GEO Metro's. First one went 60K trouble free miles until it got hit. It was parked with out me in it thankfully.
Second one went 85K with only one set of tires (those 19.00 tires fit those cars).
Hey, at the time they were under 8K brand new and I got 50mpg out of the first and just a lil better out of the second one.
I ended up moving close to work so I sold the second one to my friends kid for 800 bucks.
The down side is when you push in the cig lighter the car slows down. lol
They did what they were for. But now that I'm older I'd give up some milage for something comfy like a Camery.
That's funny :)

[boatnam2]

my carpool buddy had the accord with the 4 banger gets 30mph same as my hyundia.but he payed 22k which dosen't scream to me something i want to drive 100 miles a day.i payed 4k get the same milage better warranty.like i tell him european sports car feel with a korean price tag!

[BADBLOWN572]

I would also probably be looking at Nissan Ultimas. I like bigger cars. Drove a Civic in high school and college. Excellent car, but very small. I like something around me. Drove our friend's Altima the other day and was thinking to myself that I could very easily drive this on a daily basis. :)

[Tom Brown]

They did what they were for. But now that I'm older I'd give up some milage for something comfy like a Camery.
What a pussy.
Don't foget you need a real comfy truck too so you don't jar any of those bruised internal organs on the way home from an afternoon in your flat.

[Cole Trickle]

I think the diesel VW Golf's got 45+ MPG:)
I think you will hate the size of the corolla/Civic after driving a truck for so may years.To get over 35-40 MPG your gonna have to crap your self into a tin can.
I think the Scion XB would be a decent little commuter and still have enough room for 4 adults and some gear.

[Tom Brown]

My 550 HP 6 speed vette gets/got 33+ MPG on the freeway if you stayed out of the boost.
Sounds right. :D :D :D

[Jyruiz]

I think the diesel VW Golf's got 45+ MPG:)
I think you will hate the size of the corolla/Civic after driving a truck for so may years.To get over 35-40 MPG your gonna have to crap your self into a tin can.
I think the Scion XB would be a decent little commuter and still have enough room for 4 adults and some gear.
The XB is very big inside, been in a couple when my cousin was looking into getting one for a commuter. The car is not really meant for the highway though (which is fine in CA) and the best you will get is about 35mpg. At about 80mph you are at 4k rpms in the XB and is in the noisy side, not very well insulated.

[ULTRA26 # 1]

I bought a Honda Civic SI Sedan. 197 HP 6 spd. 34 mpg hwy. It's a great car.
John M

[Cole Trickle]

The XB is very big inside, been in a couple when my cousin was looking into getting one for a commuter. The car is not really meant for the highway though (which is fine in CA) and the best you will get is about 35mpg. At about 80mph you are at 4k rpms in the XB and is in the noisy side, not very well insulated.
I think anything that costs under 17K is gonna be very noisy and pretty unfun to drive.;)
I don't think I could drive any of the vehicles listed because I am HP hungry. My idea of good mileage is 20+ and I would never sacrafice my sanity/masculinity to achieve that extra 20 mpg:D;)
I am currently shopping 05-06 GTO's for my new commuter:devil:

[Cole Trickle]

I bought a Honda Civic SI Sedan. 197 HP 6 spd. 34 mpg hwy. It's a great car.
John M
Cool little cars.:)
I hate the wing so that would have to go yesterday;)
A couple years back we owned the ultimate crappy pocket rocket. Our (Girlfriends) SRT-4 surprised alot of mustang/S2000 and 350Z owners. Sad part was the tank was so small that you were luck to go 200 miles before you had to re-fuel.

[DILLIGAF]

I would never sacrafice my sanity/masculinity to achieve that extra 20 mpg
Glad my sanity and masculinity are not tied up in what I drive......If so, I would have a 700 series BMW or a Mercedes.
If I get to feeling insignificant :rolleyes: driving the little car I will just switch back to driving the truck....

[Cole Trickle]

Glad my sanity and masculinity are not tied up in what I drive......If so, I would have a 700 series BMW or a Mercedes.
If I get to feeling insignificant :rolleyes: driving the little car I will just switch back to driving the truck....
I didn't mean it like that...I don't like being in a small car at 80 mph on the freeway.The wind blows and your a lane over...not to mention you get rear ended in bumper to bumper by a lifted diesel and your a corpse.
FYI...I have been commuting in a 97 Pontiac Grand am for the past year and I hate it. Like you I am used to cars with more material and would rather spend the extra $$ in fuel vs. drive that car for much longer.

[DILLIGAF]

I didn't mean it like that...I don't like being in a small car at 80 mph on the freeway.The wind blows and your a lane over...not to mention you get rear ended in bumper to bumper by a lifted diesel and your a corpse.
FYI...I have been commuting in a 97 Pontiac Grand am for the past year and I hate it. Like you I am used to cars with more material and would rather spend the extra $$ in fuel vs. drive that car for much longer.
I know what you meant. The lights in my rear view for sure will drive me postal....and shit..
Maybe I ought to rethink this....lol

[Jyruiz]

I think anything that costs under 17K is gonna be very noisy and pretty unfun to drive.;)
I don't think I could drive any of the vehicles listed because I am HP hungry. My idea of good mileage is 20+ and I would never sacrafice my sanity/masculinity to achieve that extra 20 mpg:D;)
I am currently shopping 05-06 GTO's for my new commuter:devil:
Actually, it was pretty fun to drive, the manual one anyways, but too noisy for my taste, the Corolla is 10 times quieter inside than the XB.

[Mrs.Racer277]

I know what you meant. The lights in my rear view for sure will drive me postal....and shit..
Maybe I ought to rethink this....lol
Dark Tint solves that problem.
Just dont get pulled over. :rolleyes: I have already twice. :mad:

[Cole Trickle]

I know what you meant. The lights in my rear view for sure will drive me postal....and shit..
Maybe I ought to rethink this....lol
Trust me it sucks!!!:mad: ;)
I sit on the 91 everyday and every stock SUV's lights are right in my eyes. The rearviow can be dimmed but the side mirrors drive me crazy.
What about the new Nissan Altima with the 2.5? Decent on the road yet still efficent and some what peppy.

[Cole Trickle]

Actually, it was pretty fun to drive, the manual one anyways, but too noisy for my taste, the Corolla is 10 times quieter inside than the XB.
when I was a dyno operator we had a show day where we put about 30 Scions on the rollers....
I think the strongest one there with intake/exhaust made 107 to the wheels.I think they could make a decent commuter if you could find a cheap one but I don't trust any car that you can't scratch tire on the 1-2 shift;):devil: :D

[RT21]

I am leaning towards a Honda Civic or Accord. It would be nice to buy an American car but nothing really impresses me American wise.
Suggestions?
Define economy. Fuel or Money? or both? What is your target on both?
We got to have more info here..:)

[Jyruiz]

when I was a dyno operator we had a show day where we put about 30 Scions on the rollers....
I think the strongest one there with intake/exhaust made 107 to the wheels.I think they could make a decent commuter if you could find a cheap one but I don't trust any car that you can't scratch tire on the 1-2 shift;):devil: :D
Baller.:D :devil:

[Cole Trickle]

Baller.:D :devil:
I wish:)
Trust me alot of cars under 20K will scratch when properly power shifted;)
It's not about $$ to me. I would rather own a decent car with a huge motor and a reasonable price tag over the high dollar impressive stuff any day.
My parents are both Audi,MBZ fans and I constantly try to talk them into cars like the 300C for both performance/price reasons.

[Jyruiz]

I wish:)
Trust me alot of cars under 20K will scratch when properly power shifted;)
It's not about $$ to me. I would rather own a decent car with a huge motor and a reasonable price tag over the high dollar impressive stuff any day.
My parents are both Audi,MBZ fans and I constantly try to talk them into cars like the 300C for both performance/price reasons.
I knew there was baller blood in you.:D

[cxr133]

I am leaning towards a Honda Civic or Accord. It would be nice to buy an American car but nothing really impresses me American wise.
Suggestions?
we asked the same question about 18 months ago when the guys prices were high and rising. The Tahoe just was not an economical solution for daily commuting to and fro (LOL) work.
We looked at the PT CRUISER and the Mini Cooper.. but they get horrible gas mileage like 16-17 MPG.
I liked the Accords/Civics alot but we were looking to save a few dollars.
So we ended up with the Scion Xb.. it was new then, great gas mileage 25-33 MPG. and it is roomy.
BUT after owning it for awhile the novelty wears off and it is funny looking. if we had to do it again we would probably end up w/ the Civic.

[Cole Trickle]

we asked the same question about 18 months ago when the guys prices were high and rising. The Tahoe just was not an economical solution for daily commuting to and fro (LOL) work.
We looked at the PT CRUISER and the Mini Cooper.. but they get horrible gas mileage like 16-17 MPG.
I liked the Accords/Civics alot but we were looking to save a few dollars.
So we ended up with the Scion Xb.. it was new then, great gas mileage 25-33 MPG. and it is roomy.
BUT after owning it for awhile the novelty wears off and it is funny looking. if we had to do it again we would probably end up w/ the Civic.
The new 2 door civics look very nice...Bar none the nicest civic to date:)

[Cole Trickle]

I knew there was baller blood in you.:D
Neither cars do good burnouts:D:(
Other than the suped up models the standard german based cars do nothing for me.

[DILLIGAF]

Define economy. Fuel or Money? or both? What is your target on both?
We got to have more info here..:)
Jeeezzzz.....I didn't know economy car had different meanings.
Low ongoing maintenance costs, low fuel costs, low insurance costs and reasonably priced.

[wolfie]

My chevy with the 496 is my economy car.

[RT21]

Jeeezzzz.....I didn't know economy car had different meanings.
Low ongoing maintenance costs, low fuel costs, low insurance costs and reasonably priced.
Low maintenance costs...Most cars have the same maintenance costs. I suppose you mean something reliable.
Low fuel costs.....This is subjective. Dependant on your income.
Low insurance costs...Is there really a difference of price in this catagory?
Reasonably priced....refer to low fuel costs question above.

[Hallett19]

The american cars out now are junk in my eyes.
I have a Subaru and it will get 26 mpg when I want it to, its fun to drive, I can take it anywhere, it holds its resale better than most of the other imports, comfy on long trips, cool boxer rumble and it feels as tight as my friend's BMW 3 Series, oh, and its as fast as a Mustang GT from 0-60 out of the box. Great aftermarket too, my wagon with exhaust and Cobb Access port computer put it up to 285 HP and 0-60 a tick under 5 seconds.

[beaverretriever]

Cool little cars.:)
I hate the wing so that would have to go yesterday;)
A couple years back we owned the ultimate crappy pocket rocket. Our (Girlfriends) SRT-4 surprised alot of mustang/S2000 and 350Z owners. Sad part was the tank was so small that you were luck to go 200 miles before you had to re-fuel.
I built up my little SRT4 to make 400 reliable hp, run in the 12s and smoke most V8s plus I still got 25mpg or more!!!:D
The problem is finding one. When I bought mine, it was one of the last remaining on the lots anywhere on the west coast. Unfortunately, most of the used ones are owned by kids and beat to shit. Mine was one of the cleanest around. They do get beat on pretty bad.
Man, I miss that little car. :(
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid204/pf906680d502e515ef14635bc9aeff1c0/ef636fe3.jpg

[Cole Trickle]

I built up my little SRT4 to make 400 reliable hp, run in the 12s and smoke most V8s plus I still got 25mpg or more!!!:D
The problem is finding one. When I bought mine, it was one of the last remaining on the lots anywhere on the west coast. Unfortunately, most of the used ones are owned by kids and beat to shit. Mine was one of the cleanest around. They do get beat on pretty bad.
Man, I miss that little car. :(
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid204/pf906680d502e515ef14635bc9aeff1c0/ef636fe3.jpg
I always liked the white ones.:)
Ours was pretty basic/simple/clean
03
black
tint
Eibach springs
Swapped to low profile SXT wing
Aftermarket 17's
we won a couple mopar car shows with that car:D
http://www.magnaflow.com/04sound/images/srt4.jpg
The car wen't 13.7@103 with intake/exhaust (It was Jens so I never added any of the stages or wen't with a bigger turbo)
the car is still shown on Magnaflows website

[DILLIGAF]

Low maintenance costs...Most cars have the same maintenance costs. I suppose you mean something reliable.
Low fuel costs.....This is subjective. Dependant on your income.
Low insurance costs...Is there really a difference of price in this catagory?
Reasonably priced....refer to low fuel costs question above.
WTF! If you don't know what an economy car is I can't help you. Reading all between the lines...and shit.
Seems everybody else on here knows what an economy car is.

[GETSOME]

I always liked the white ones.:)
Ours was pretty basic/simple/clean
03
black
tint
Eibach springs
Swapped to low profile SXT wing
Aftermarket 17's
we won a couple mopar car shows with that car:D
http://www.magnaflow.com/04sound/images/srt4.jpg
The car wen't 13.7@103 with intake/exhaust (It was Jens so I never added any of the stages or wen't with a bigger turbo)
the car is still shown on Magnaflows website
There is still a video clip on magaflows web site of my truck :D

[RiverRatMike]

I am leaning towards a Honda Civic or Accord. It would be nice to buy an American car but nothing really impresses me American wise.
Suggestions?
Honda's are good for about 70K and then they go down hill. Started having problems with my wifes Honda at that milage. After that time to get something else

[Outnumbered]

Buy AMERICAN! DODGE NITRO?, PT CRUISER, CHEVY HHR, GMC ENVOY:D SATURN ?
Corollas are made in Fremont California. HHRs are made in Mexico:rolleyes:

[dumbandyoung]

scion tc or xb

[Yogster]

I am a GM guy and love my HHR.

[wsuwrhr]

Not really an economy car is it?
I get between 20-25 miles per gallon.
I think that is pretty good.
Brian

[wsuwrhr]

The HHR sits on a Cobalt platform. Both of which are nice cars.
I figured it would be close to a PT platform.
A friend of mine has the Cobalt SS it runs pretty good too. Although it won't outrun the PT.
Brian

[YeLLowBoaT]

you could always buy my Fiat... HD discount $1800 cash gets about 25 mpg... 73 no smog shit, its fun to drive and comes with a truck load full of parts...Sad part is its one of the most reliable cars I have ever owned... I've put like 10k miles on it and have not touched anything under the hood. I've never had a car that did not have something needing to be done every 10k miles.

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Cool little cars.:)
I hate the wing so that would have to go yesterday;)
A couple years back we owned the ultimate crappy pocket rocket. Our (Girlfriends) SRT-4 surprised alot of mustang/S2000 and 350Z owners. Sad part was the tank was so small that you were luck to go 200 miles before you had to re-fuel.
The spoliler on the sedan is much smaller than the one on the coupe. I don't like the one on the coupe either. Driving an econo car is new to me. In the last 10 years or so, I have had a Vette roadster, a Z28, an M3, 2 Lightnings, a Saleen S281 SC Speedster, a SC 03 SVT Cobra and an SS Trailblazer, The TBSS is for sale now. The SI isn't as fast as an EVO, WRX-STI or an SRT4 but gets 34 on the highway and it handles amazing.
JM

[TRIMMIN]

My Jetta TDI gets 40mpg at 80mph up and down hills. Not a cheap car but the motor could see 250-300K if treated right.

[a catered life]

for the price the civic is a good deal...but if you want to look at something decent from a americian maker check out the pontiac g6....we rented on about 3 weeks ago and loved it lots of getty up and go and dam good on gas...we filled up in santa clara ($35) and made it home in palmdale with a little to spare...the trip included a stop at tahoe joes in bakersfield for dinner.....car ran great but is hard to bet the hondas and toyota's of the world

[Jyruiz]

Also check out the Mazda 3 wagon. I think it is the best looking economy car in its class and come with a lot of options.

[Racer277]

Honda's are good for about 70K and then they go down hill. Started having problems with my wifes Honda at that milage. After that time to get something else
Ha Ha, Like a ford with a Yamaha engine?
Try finding one of those still running...
We really liked the 2 Door Civic, but couldn't get the package we wanted (basically an SI with an auto trans). I like the Scion TC, but it only has a 4 speed tranny, so we went with the 2 dr Accord. We get 30-35MPG avg the whole way to the river, and has more space than the TC or the Civic.
I still like the TC though, and the price can't be beat.

[Cole Trickle]

The spoliler on the sedan is much smaller than the one on the coupe. I don't like the one on the coupe either. Driving an econo car is new to me. In the last 10 years or so, I have had a Vette roadster, a Z28, an M3, 2 Lightnings, a Saleen S281 SC Speedster, a SC 03 SVT Cobra and an SS Trailblazer, The TBSS is for sale now. The SI isn't as fast as an EVO, WRX-STI or an SRT4 but gets 34 on the highway and it handles amazing.
JM
Your list sounds somewhat similar to mine:D:devil:
00 SS Camaro (Motor work)
03 Silverado Reg Cab 5.3 on Nitrous
90 Notchback Mustang on Nitrous
03 SRT-4
04 Vette (Blown)
I think the Evo is bar none the best handling car I have ever driven but there is no way in the world that I could live with the race car suspension daily.
Time for something new.
What did you think of the TBSS?(What color/year and how much?:idea: )
I have been shopping those and 05+ GTO's

[boatnam2]

if i was going to go down and buy a new commuter car for work it would be a suzuki/11k brand new 100k warranty.hondas and toyotas are over priced and under warrantied imo.i figure if there so great whats up with the 3/36!

[andy01]

For gas mileage and not price buy a Chevy Corvette. I drive mine to the river and get 25 plus mpg. 30 If you cruise 65-75 22mpg@100. Plus you'll have fun going back and forth to work. Plus it's american made....
Andy

[Big Kahunaa]

my driver car is a 1990 lincon towncar 20-21 mpg getting a 1989 civic this weekend for $250 35-38 mpg here i come

[Mr. C]

my driver car is a 1990 lincon towncar 20-21 mpg getting a 1989 civic this weekend for $250 35-38 mpg here i come
1986 Honda accord, 33+ mpg, only 110,000 miles, turn the key and go.

[SJRS1]

I drive 300 plus miles a day and needed a vehicle that gets good mileage, I get 35 mpg and they have all kinds of room inside and only paid 11k...
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[99 232 baja]

This thread makes me sick!! You wonder why the national deficit is at a record high. Do you people really think that the money from a us made toyondaishi stays in the USA,their loyality is to their own country not ours. Someday you foreign car owners will be eating them. There are alot of AMERICAN cars that get the same if not better mileage then the other guys and they look better .

[Big Kahunaa]

1986 Honda accord, 33+ mpg, only 110,000 miles, turn the key and go.
i hope mine doesnt drop below 30mpg with the lift kit and the all terains

[rivergoer]

10 speed huffy .... hauls the mail down hill

[Mr. C]

This thread makes me sick!! You wonder why the national deficit is at a record high. Do you people really think that the money from a us made toyondaishi stays in the USA,their loyality is to their own country not ours. Someday you foreign car owners will be eating them. There are alot of AMERICAN cars that get the same if not better mileage then the other guys and they look better .
You mean like the ford taurus i owned, which at 45,000 miles had gone through 3 sets of motor mounts, 2 alternaters, a tranny rebuild, and lets not forget the windshield that leaked when it rained.

[rivergoer]

You mean like the ford taurus i owned, which at 45,000 miles had gone through 3 sets of motor mounts, 2 alternaters, a tranny rebuild, and lets not forget the windshield that leaked when it rained.
thats because it was a ford should have bought a chebby:D

[YeLLowBoaT]

thats because it was a ford should have bought a chebby:D
oh you mean abotu my power steering pump bracket that broke... sending the pump in to the water pump cracking it and sheeing the bolts off of the timing cover... when we got the new part from cheby it gained 3 lbs...

[Mr. C]

thats because it was a ford should have bought a chebby:D
should of bought anything but that POS. Didn't even bring up the part about it catching on fire.:(

[Arkansas]

Mazda 3 would get a serious look

[Riomouse911]

I bought a Scion xB in 04 as a commuter...it now has 40k on it.. but I gots a company car now so it's parked. It gets a REAL 32 MPG C/H averaged, not the inflated numbers on the stickers most cars show. When I moved, I was able to load it with 17 boxes (stater bros apple box size) of stuff. Came w/Air, power windows/doors, auto, CD player for 16k.
It looks like an ice chest, but the cost of feeding it (25 a week) over the super duty (120 a week) paid for the car payment and made the jokes and snickers of friends, the wife, and co-workers easier to take.

[bwillieb]

...........Late '70's Mercedes 300SD.........37MPG.......no payments

[sorry dog]

I'd love the G6 except they all have auto's
Hyundai Sonata is OK - drove smooth - Wife had one for 4 years, but I sold it when the tranny started to act funny at 90k; it takes a special Hyundai fluid that cost $10 a quart and was supposed to be changed every 30K...but they only came up with that maint schedule after the trannies started showing up before the 100K warranty was up.
I toured the factory a while back, I wasn't too impressed with the quality control. 90% of everything was done by robots, and the test drives are only done at under 40 mph...I guess the warranty with take care of the the issues that the QC testers didn't catch...also wifey's had a French built bosch alt...went out 3 times.
I like the Sub Forrester - has a little bit of room and available turbo motor.
I also like any Toyota that had an "A" series four banger...Mr2, corolla, geo prizm, geo storm. Overbuilt motors that are super cheap to replace with a supercharged version.

[TRUMP TIGHT]

I am leaning towards a Honda Civic or Accord. It would be nice to buy an American car but nothing really impresses me American wise.
Suggestions?
The Impala has v8 power and cruises hwy on 4cyl.

[TRUMP TIGHT]

If you look at the Acord look at the Altama too.

[Screemy1]

still like my new Saturn Ion...... vroom vrooom at 80-85 through steep mountain passes...... 115 miles 5 days a week..... consistant 30 mpg...... it is a 2.2L 4 banger.......

[Ned S]

Mazda Miata if you dont need a back seat. I have had mine for 12 years and we love it. The only part I have had to replace was the clutch slave cyl and I drive it hard. Costs a bit more than a econobox but a lot more fun to drive.

[bigq]

Mini Cooper for me the S that is.:D

[Kachina26]

I had a Hyundai Elantra, paid around $13 ish. It got 30mpg and was setup nicely with leather power windows, locks, steering, etc. cd player. I drive a Hyundai Accent, with power windows, locks, mirrors, cd player. It gets between 33 and 37 mpg depending on how I drive. Paid about $8,500 brand new. 50,000 trouble free miles to date. Oil changes only so far. Hyundai has come a long way since the 80's. It's no Honda, but it's nice enough to run for 5 years and throw away.

[TRUMP TIGHT]

still like my new Saturn Ion...... vroom vrooom at 80-85 through steep mountain passes...... 115 miles 5 days a week..... consistant 30 mpg...... it is a 2.2L 4 banger.......
The Redline would be a cool car to have.
And hey with the Saturn you get the dent proof doors!

[Tom Brown]

How come no one has recommended the Enzo Ferrari or Chevrolet Suburban yet? http://www.***boat.com/ubb/graemlins/idea_2.gif

[hoolign]

I would go with a Enzo Ferrari or Chevrolet Suburban!

[YeLLowBoaT]

The Redline would be a cool car to have.
And hey with the Saturn you get the dent proof doors!
thats bcuz they are plastic... I've seen more then a few crack when bumbed in the cold.

[bruddah]

civic is the way to go tom!

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Your list sounds somewhat similar to mine:D:devil:
00 SS Camaro (Motor work)
03 Silverado Reg Cab 5.3 on Nitrous
90 Notchback Mustang on Nitrous
03 SRT-4
04 Vette (Blown)
I think the Evo is bar none the best handling car I have ever driven but there is no way in the world that I could live with the race car suspension daily.
Time for something new.
What did you think of the TBSS?(What color/year and how much?:idea: )
I have been shopping those and 05+ GTO's
The TBSS is a great running SUV. Mine is Silv w/ 13.5K miles. It's fairly quick. I just put in the Trader for $29,500 obo. Not a mark on it.
John M

[TRUMP TIGHT]

thats bcuz they are plastic... I've seen more then a few crack when bumbed in the cold.
Ive had 2 and have seen first hand one in about a million pieces on the road.....but i have also taken a bat to the door without damage and walked away from a horrific accident!

[ROZ]

Tom, If you decide to get the Corolla call Danny Zendejas at Elway Crown Toyota (Ontario,Ca.). Tell him that Gil's nephew Chris Rozmus sent you...(800) 276-9699 x207