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Mohave Vice
02-27-2007, 12:03 PM
What's going on?

Jordy
02-27-2007, 12:10 PM
World Markets Fall After Chinese Stocks Plunge 9 Percent, Biggest Drop in a Decade
By ELAINE KURTENBACH, AP Business Writer
SHANGHAI, China (Associated Press) -- Chinese stocks plunged nearly 9 percent Tuesday, their biggest drop in a decade, rattling markets from Hong Kong to Singapore and as far away as New York amid fears of a slowdown in China's economy.
Investors were also spooked by comments Monday from former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, who said a recession in the U.S. was "possible" later this year.
One day after sending Shanghai's benchmark index to a record, investors dumped stocks to lock in profits amid speculation about a fresh round of austerity measures from Beijing to slow the nation's sizzling economy. The Shanghai Composite Index tumbled 8.8 percent to close at 2.771.79, its largest decline since it fell 8.9 percent on Feb. 18, 1997, at the time of the death of Communist Party elder Deng Xiaoping.
Meanwhile, the price of oil fell on speculation that a slowing Chinese economy would slice into demand for fuel. A barrel of light, sweet crude was down 56 cents $60.83 in premarket trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
"The (rumors) that China is going to impose a capital gains tax resulted in regional markets falling," said S. Sharath, an analyst with MIDF-Amanah Investment Bank in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, where the benchmark index tumbled 2.8 percent.
But Greenspan's comments also took a heavy toll on Asian markets.
"Our economy is also dependent on the U.S. economy, if there is adverse news, exports from our country is going to drop," Sharath said.
In Hong Kong, the benchmark Hang Seng Index tumbled 1.8 percent, while Singapore's Straits Times index sank 2.3 percent. Markets in Japan and Taiwan, however, registered only modest declines.
The plunge spilled over to New York, where the Dow Jones industrials were down 210 points, or 1.66 percent. In London, the FTSE-100 dropped 2.31 percent, France's CAC 40 dropped 3.02 percent and Germany's DAX lost 2.96 percent.
Major Latin American markets were sharply lower around midday. In Brazil, Sao Paulo's Bovespa index was off 4.1 percent, Mexico City's IPC index shed 3.4 percent, the IPSA index in Santiago, Chile was down 3.8 percent, while in Buenos Aires, Argentina, the Merval dropped 5 percent.
Chinese share prices doubled last year as investors piled into the market following the completion of shareholding reforms that helped to reduce worries over a potential flood of shares entering the market.
But stocks have been extremely volatile this year, with the Shanghai index notching one-day drops of 4.9 percent and 3.7 percent in January _ before recovering to hit new highs. On Monday, it closed at a record 3,040.60.
Tuesday, market heavyweights plunged on heavy selling by institutional investors, which in turn spooked retail investors who decided to cash in their recent gains rather than risk losing them in a severe market decline.
"The most important reason for today's decline was pressure for profit-taking," said Peng Yunliang, a senior analyst at Shanghai Securities. "People viewed 3,000 as a psychological benchmark. It's understandable they might want to pull back after the market hit that peak."
China's economy last year grew 10.7 percent _ the highest rate since 1995 _ and a central bank report at the beginning of the year estimated it would expand 9.8 this year.
On Monday, banks were required to raise the amount of money they must hold in reserve to 10 percent from 9.5 percent, reducing the amount available for lending. Authorities had last raised the reserve ratio on Jan. 15. The goverment, worried that excessive borrowing could trigger a debt crisis, also raised interest rates twice last year.
In comments to a business conference in Hong Kong on Monday, Greenspan said the U.S. economy has been expanding since 2001 and that there are signs the current economic cycle is coming to an end.
"When you get this far away from a recession invariably forces build up for the next recession, and indeed we are beginning to see that sign," Greenspan said. "For example in the U.S., profit margins ... have begun to stabilize, which is an early sign we are in the later stages of a cycle."
"While, yes, it is possible we can get a recession in the latter months of 2007, most forecasters are not making that judgment and indeed are projecting forward into 2008 ... with some slowdown," he said.
In Europe, companies with exposure to Asian markets led the declines.
BHP Billiton, the world's largest mining company, declined 4.8 percent to 1066 pence. Rio Tinto Group, the third biggest, lost 4 percent to 2824 pence.
Standard Chartered PLC, a British bank that earns most of its money in Asia, slipped 2.1 percent to 1,477 pence, or $29.00, on the London Stock Exchange.

sdpm
02-27-2007, 12:37 PM
The Dow was down 508 points just alittle bit ago!:jawdrop: Looks like it is recovering a little now. Hang on, could be a bumpy ride .

KreatinKaos
02-27-2007, 12:57 PM
Wow , that sucked :confused: :eek:

NoCal NoBoat
02-27-2007, 12:59 PM
Ironic this happens on the day that the Fed announces the highest level of consumer confidence since 2001...

AZKC
02-27-2007, 01:03 PM
SELLL SELLLLL SELLLL:jawdrop: :jawdrop:
No Wait BUUUYYYY BUUUUYYYY BUUUYYYY:D

BajaMike
02-27-2007, 02:27 PM
NEW YORK — Wall Street suffered dramatic losses on Tuesday as an overnight sell-off in China spooked U.S. investors and helped push the Dow Jones industrial average down nearly 550 points, though the markets trimmed losses in late afternoon.
At the close, the Dow was down roughly 415 points, well above the session lows. Just after 3 p.m. ET the Dow was nearly 550 points off its open.
A week ago, the index reached new closing and trading highs, rising as high as 12,795.92.
The decline in the Dow was the first 300 point-plus drop since March, 2003, when the index closed 307.29 points lower. It was also the largest loss since the first trading after September 11, 2001, when the blue chip index dropped 684 points.
Other indices were not immune to the day's losses, as the Standard & Poor's 500 Index was down 49.82 points, or 3.44 percent, to finish unofficially at 1,399.55. The Nasdaq Composite Index was down 96.65 points, or 3.86 percent, to close unofficially at 2,407.87.
The sell-off wiped out the year's gains for all three of the major U.S. stock indexes. At the unofficial closing levels, the Dow was down about 2 percent for the year, while the S&P 500 was down about 1.32 percent and the Nasdaq was down about 0.17 percent.

Partycattin
02-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Looks like the sky is falling......again.

Wavemaker
02-27-2007, 03:30 PM
Now we'll find out how the "ballers" are! Hang on and ride it out. If you have some "disposable funds" now is when to buy. - Wavemaker

Trailer Park Casanova
02-27-2007, 03:34 PM
Oil may fall to 56 this week,, don't expect a whole lot more ,, if any.
China will have to re-value it's currency sooner or later,, sooner is on the horizon, and it may be more than a hiccup to the world economy,, perhaps some monetary markets dependant on China (that's US) will puke rather than hiccup as well.
Ford is a dead horse and Wall Street is smelling the rotting flesh,,, Yahoo/ATT is dieing a slow death,,, the US real estate market ain't gonna be that ambitious as some predict,,,,,
Big changes coming,, grab your wallet,,

CA Stu
02-27-2007, 03:44 PM
Thanks Greenspan! He's on the speech circuit now and made some negative comments...
I reckon oil won't go down much.
I have been wrong before.
Thanks
CA Stu

Trailer Park Casanova
02-27-2007, 03:51 PM
Now we'll find out how the "ballers" are! Hang on and ride it out. If you have some "disposable funds" now is when to buy. - Wavemaker
Yep, there it is,, well said.
You don't loose if ya don't sell.
Good time to buy.

HavasuHome
02-27-2007, 04:42 PM
The Dow will bounce back. If you play your cards right you can still make money in a down market.

CA Stu
02-27-2007, 05:10 PM
Yep, there it is,, well said.
You don't loose if ya don't sell.
Good time to buy.
You don't win if you don't sell at a profit, either, man.
I wish I sold everything Friday so I could get back in tomorrow at a discount.
Thanks
CA Stu
PS "Lose"

MikeF
02-27-2007, 05:20 PM
What'll happen tomorrow???? Didn't lose hardly anything today. Most of what I have is not in the market now. :idea: You could say I feel ok.:)

CA Stu
02-27-2007, 05:42 PM
It was partially a computer glitch... (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070227/ap_on_bi_ge/wall_street_what_happened;_ylt=ArFt9uWV3PRMuOq0LVj jIvYT5LIF)
Thanks
CA Stu