Has there been...

[Jbb]

An explanation why that Cali cop shot the MP who was unarmed....I saw part of a video of it on the news last night...but they gave no details.......and has anybody heard from Lowriver.......

[Riverkid]

Heard the Feds are now involved. It will likely get ugly. The tape sure looked bad, but you never know what happened before they started filming. That SO sure was pissed off.

[Moneypitt]

I heard an offical say something about the officer not being fit to carry a badge and a gun. I'm trying to reserve an opinion until ALL the facts come out. I figure the MP may have been reaching for his MP ID to put the SO at ease. Something sure as hell caused an unfortunate reaction. It could have been a lot worse, 4 shots at that range and he's still alive and expected to recover, thats the good part of a bad situation. ...........MP

[MagicMtnDan]

The friggin' sheriff tells him to get up and then shoots him at least three times :220v: :220v: :220v:

[Moneypitt]

Dan, that is when I feel the MP must have reached for something causing the SO reaction. Doesn't make it right by any means, but a possible explanation. Let me ask some of the LE here how far out of procedure is it to have a suspect get up in a situation like that!!! Seems like the SO should have just held the situation as it was until back up arrived. The tape doesn't show the MPs hands during the "get up" action.........Again, why have him get up? Thats not the way they do it on "Cops"............MP

[Tremor Therapy]

That was exactly what I was thinking. He's down, you ordered him up, and then shot him! I have to admit, I've watched a zillion episodes of Cops, and thats the first time I've seen a video where they asked the suspect to get up prior to cuffing them!

[Jbb]

All things being equal......I hope the "unfortunate reaction" of shooting an unarmed man,complying with his orders, gets that cop the exact punishment that he would expect someone to get...if they shot him...... but I bet it wont

[Tom Brown]

This would be a whole different deal without video. The officer is going to have a hard time getting out from under this thing.

[truksnboats]

Saw the tape and it looks real bad, made me feel sick inside. I dont understand why the officer tells the MP to get up then unloads 3 rounds into him. If the officer would have followed procedure which would be to cuff the suspect while on the ground this would never have happened. Look out guys, looks like our tax money will be hard at work in the pockets of more laywers!!

[Havasu Cig]

All things being equal......I hope the "unfortunate reaction" of shooting an unarmed man,complying with his orders, gets that cop the exact punishment that he would expect someone to get...if they shot him...... but I bet it wont
On the contrary, if the shooting is deemed not to be justified he will be dealt with more severly than an average person in an accidental shooting case. They will make an example of him. That being said you need to wait for the investigation to completed to find out what happened.
People never talk about the times the cops don't shoot when they would be justified in doing so. I had several times in my 11 years on the job that I would have been justified in shooting someone but did not. People do some real stupid $hit at times.
I stopped two tweekers in a vehicle in the hood about 0300 and while I was standing next to the passenger door he opened the glove box and reached in where a pelet gun looking just like a Colt 1911 was sitting. Could I have shot? absolutely. I was able to get my weapon out before he touched the gun and was waiting for him to grab it. He is lucky I gave him the extra second to stop what he was doing. This is just one example. I was also involved in an officer involved shooting where the suspect tried to take my partners gun and now he is taking a dirt nap.
It is a tough job where you have to make quick decisions that people will spend months or years second guessing you. That being said wait for the investigation to come out. If the cop screwed up he should be punished.

[Jbb]

On the contrary, if the shooting is deemed not to be justified he will be dealt with more severly than an average person in an accidental shooting case. They will make an example of him. That being said you need to wait for the investigation to completed to find out what happened.
People never talk about the times the cops don't shoot when they would be justified in doing so. I had several times in my 11 years on the job that I would have been justified in shooting someone but did not. People do some real stupid $hit at times.
I stopped two tweekers in a vehicle in the hood about 0300 and while I was standing next to the passenger door he opened the glove box and reached in where a pelet gun looking just like a Colt 1911 was sitting. Could I have shot? absolutely. I was able to get my weapon out before he touched the gun and was waiting for him to grab it. He is lucky I gave him the extra second to stop what he was doing. This is just one example. I was also involved in an officer involved shooting where the suspect tried to take my partners gun and now he is taking a dirt nap.
It is a tough job where you have to make quick decisions that people will spend months or years second guessing you. That being said wait for the investigation to come out. If the cop screwed up he should be punished.
I wont debate that its a tough job......he accepted the job,and draws a paycheck from it [not nearly enough Im guessing].....and Im not saying police depts. ever cover stuff up :rolleyes:
Lets just say Im real glad there was video tape this time....and you are right everyone should wait for the investigation to be completed......I am merly commenting on the video I saw...

[Havasu Cig]

That's cool, I have no problem with your comments at all. Simply giving my opinion from experience. A lot of people watch cop movies and think that's what it is like in real life and it's not. All it takes is one mistake and you don't go home, and sometimes those decisions must be made in a split second. :cool:

[Stoneman]

This would be a whole different deal without video. The officer is going to have a hard time getting out from under this thing.
With no video, that MP would be sitting in the hospital getting ready to fight an assault charge for attaching the officer. With the Officer having 4 sheriffs to back his story.

[Havasu Cig]

With no video, that MP would be sitting in the hospital getting ready to fight an assault charge for attaching the officer. With the Officer having 4 sheriffs to back his story.
There is actually only one Sheriff in each County who is elected. I think you meant to say Deputy Sheriff's. :cool:

[OutCole'd]

A officer was killed here in Vegas yesterday while responding to a domestic disturbance call. Knocked on the door, guy opened the door with a gun to the officer. Sad day, he leaves a wife & two daughters.
In the blink of an eye, you have to make a decision the will be with you the rest of your life. Not an easy thing to do.

[Stoneman]

There is actually only one Sheriff in each County who is elected. I think you meant to say Deputy Sheriff's. :cool:
Thanks for the correction, doesn't change the point of my comment though. :cool:

[Havasu Cig]

Thanks for the correction, doesn't change the point of my comment though. :cool:
I think you would be suprised that the so called "Code of Silence" that once existed in L.E. really is not there anymore. People are worried about protecting there own ass and in most cases will not cover up for someone else. Does it happen sometimes, sure. Does it happen as often as people think, no.

[Stoneman]

I think you would be suprised that the so called "Code of Silence" that once existed in L.E. really is not there anymore. People are worried about protecting there own ass and in most cases will not cover up for someone else. Does it happen sometimes, sure. Does it happen as often as people think, no.
I agree, just wish the video would of surfaced later, after the police report was filed. :argue:

[Moneypitt]

Bumped this over the kids playing, also PM'd HH to let the spoiled idiot delete, then BAN him for 5 years!.............MP