Aussie Sanger

[Aussie V-drive]

Hi, guys I originally posted in spam and was told to post in here to maybe get some more info on the boat I'm looking at here in Australia, its a 74 sanger flat bottom circle runner from what I'm told. They don't come up for sale that often in Australia cause there aren't that many of them here so any thoughts info historic facts would be great.
I'll try post some pics for your info and the HIN is SANMO1490374 which I've had explained but just included it fyi.
The boats 17'10" running a 390 BBFord casale box, adjust cav, hope the pics help and hope you can give me your thoughts good or bad.
JD

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

The sanger "circle runner" is a runnerbottom. Yours is not a runner.
What kind of facts and info are you looking for?
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Sanger%20circle%20runner%20004.jpg

[fc-pilot]

Jerry, it does have a step in it. It is hard to see, but if you zoom in you can see it.
Paul

[Warlockjer]

Boy that is one P U R P L E boat:)

[Sangerboy]

I agree with fc Jer, I think it is a runner bottom, Aussie I have the same boat, just 1 yr newer('75), with the same medium layup. You may want to remeasure carefully it should be 18' 3" the 17' 10" was a true flat with a standard raised deck (no bubbledeck). It is a good boat, not especially efficient(fast) with a given power amount, but relatively stable. Mine took a lot of bottom and setup work too get it working right after I went above 550 to 600 hp.

[Aussie V-drive]

Thanks guys, I'm really after any details on the good and bad points about the sanger, pics that allow me to compare what I'm looking at as to what is original, historic info such as the 70's add, thanks V-DRIVE VIDEO, that kinda stuff is priceless.
There's not a great deal of these boats in Australia so comparing or even looking at them is hard.
thanks guys
JD

[GofastRacer]

Yep it sure is, if you look at the 4th turnbuckle from the left it is longer and you can make out the drop if you look closely, it is hard to pick up at first glance!.. Also the angle of the center turnbuckles are different than the outer ones!..
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28039&d=1175730363

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

ok, I see it now in the enlargement. Like sangerboy said it needs to be 18' 3".
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/v-drive_ads_032.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/v-drive_ads_029.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Sanger%20circle%20runner%20001.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Sanger%20circle%20runner.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Sanger%20circle%20runner%20002.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Sanger%20circle%20runner%20003.jpg

[Aussie V-drive]

Couple more pics may answer your questions and help me, the owner says he measured without the cav's so does that sound right in terms of the length?
V-DRIVE VIDEO you are a champ thats priceless stuff, I love history re boats very appreciated.
Is there any info I can get to help you guys??

[Sangerboy]

My bet is that the owner was 5" off on his measurement. If you look closely at the 2nd picture in Aussie's 1st post, you can see that the keel has a little v in it as it passes under the v-drive where the turn fin is mounted. This also identifies it as a circle runner as the 18' 6" drag runners are flat here. Aussie the pics that Jerry posted of Powerboat Magazine's test report of the circle runner are likely the best you'll ever find of a "factory" (if there is such a thing) setup. I have that issue too Jer, Oh for the days when Powerboat would test flatbottom v-drives in their performance reports.:D

[HONDOUGH]

ok, I see it now in the enlargement. Like sangerboy said it needs to be 18' 3".
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/v-drive_ads_032.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/v-drive_ads_029.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Sanger%20circle%20runner%20001.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Sanger%20circle%20runner.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Sanger%20circle%20runner%20002.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Sanger%20circle%20runner%20003.jpg
Jerry, I dont know were you find all this stuff, you are the man!!!

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

Jerry, I dont know were you find all this stuff, you are the man!!!
I find it in my cabinet:D
This picture is about 2/3rds of my collection. I also stumble upon stuff at Billy B.'s paint shop from time to time. He worked for Sanger for a stretch and has a lot of cool literature (if you can find it).:) The problem is, it can literally take hours to find something...
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/DSCF0856.JPG

[h2oski2fast]

Hi, guys I originally posted in spam and was told to post in here to maybe get some more info on the boat I'm looking at here in Australia, its a 74 sanger flat bottom circle runner from what I'm told. They don't come up for sale that often in Australia cause there aren't that many of them here so any thoughts info historic facts would be great.
I'll try post some pics for your info and the HIN is SANMO1490374 which I've had explained but just included it fyi.
The boats 17'10" running a 390 BBFord casale box, adjust cav, hope the pics help and hope you can give me your thoughts good or bad.
JD
Is that at Tricker's?

[CircleJerk]

Note; Sanger also made NON bubble deck circle boats, I had a flat deck 1971 that Harlan identified as a circle chine flat bottom that he had forgot he made that early!! That boat is again for sale, seems the new owner cant keep rods in his BBC! Must be the boats fault!

[Aussie V-drive]

h2oski2fast, no idea what Tricker's is, but the boat is in Adelaide in Aussie and I'm in Sydney approx 10+/- hour drive for a comparison.
V-DRIVE VIDEO gottalove the magazine collection - wish I had them just to collect articles from on flatts.
There an old saying when you find one boat over here more surface, here's another would appreciate any comments on this one as well.
JD

[Aussie V-drive]

Guys any info on my latest find? see pics
JD

[Aussie V-drive]

Guys couple pics of another sanger here in Australia, any info opinions, brochures muchly appreciated.
JD

[Running_on_Empty]

does anyone have any more old sanger ads? I have a 76 flatbottom any stuff on that? These ads are awesome!

[fc-pilot]

Well Aussie, I will give you my two cents (but I am not sure what it will really be worth with the whole exchange rate). The biggest factor for me would be the hardware on the boats. I would want steel hardware and the better of the two setups. If one had a better strut angle than the other that might save you a lot of time. Also some of the other factors to weigh are which motor is more readily available if you have any parts breakage? What type of v-drive does it have and how easy is it to find parts. These are some of the questions I would be asking myself, and the owners of the boats. Hopefully some of the guys that know these hulls better will jump in with some specific info to look for with these two boats to help you out (as I have no experience with these specific hulls).
Paul

[Aussie V-drive]

Thanks fc-pilot, as a basis I'll list what I have on both boats, one point to make both are hull wise in great condition, no damage, rot, splits, stress cracks etc the purple boat has been repainted the red one has not and is still in its original red gel.
Purple sanger;
390 FE ford reasonably worked, sounds tough, good oil pressure, big sump - professionally done etc, Casale box no idea on % step up or pitch, 3 blade prop, adjustable cavs.
Red sanger;
427 BBC, alloy heads, roller cam. rockers etc, steel crank, edelbrock manifold, 850DP water injected headers, big sump, sound extremely tough and strong, again professionally built, Casale box 18% (not 100% sure) step up no idea what pitch, 2 blade mellings prop, adjustable cavs.
Again the more info the better, the boat will be used as a weekend enjoyment boat in fresh flat water (lake).
JD

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

Guys any info on my latest find? see pics
JD
These hulls can be a handful to get to "set". Everything has to be right.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28156&d=1175864082
Maybe a supersanger from 69-71???...
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/v-drive_ads_028.jpg

[Sangerboy]

I thought it was a 17' 10" also Jerry

[Aussie V-drive]

guys the red sangers HIN = SANMO1400273

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

guys the red sangers HIN = SANMO1400273
Ok, its a 1973 17' 10" super sanger.:)

[Sanger D]

I sure miss my lil super sanger:( :( might just try to get it back one day,took a long time to get dialed, then sold it!!!!! what was I thinkin?????oh ya , I was bit by the Beisemeyer BUG:sqeyes: