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PANTHERJET
12-20-2005, 10:20 AM
I Am Looking For Any Info On What Modification Work Best On A Panther It Is In 20'6" Eliminator With A 11:1 461 Olds. I Am Thinking About Sleeving The Pump And Possibly The Adm Nozzle Any Info Would Help

AZKC
12-20-2005, 12:18 PM
Contact Jim@performancejet.com and also the guys at Panther are great :)

Cas
12-20-2005, 02:03 PM
I wouldn't do the ADM deal, heard lots of stories and very few were good.
Check out the Panther Forum I started awhile back, here's the link Panther Forums (http://p210.ezboard.com/bclassic***boats).

maxwedge
12-20-2005, 06:00 PM
Probably the best thing to do if you have a panther in your boat is to leave it alone and call animal control or the local zoo. Panthers get real pissy when you start trying to "modify" them. Might try a tranq. gun as well if you have one handy. :D

BrendellaJet
12-20-2005, 07:21 PM
Ive heard about a few that run real well, but I've never seen what was done to them...starting to sound like BS.

Squirtin Thunder
12-20-2005, 08:10 PM
Probably the best thing to do if you have a panther in your boat is to leave it alone and call animal control or the local zoo. Panthers get real pissy when you start trying to "modify" them. Might try a tranq. gun as well if you have one handy. :D
It seems if you feed them more they are much happier.

beerjet
12-20-2005, 08:42 PM
You all are some funny "cats". :rollside:

PANTHERJET
02-15-2006, 10:29 AM
Thanks For The Help

wright27
02-15-2006, 10:39 AM
so sad

PANTHERJET
02-15-2006, 10:45 AM
Ive Been Told The Panther Isnt Going To Get Much Better So Does Any One Know Of Used Berk Style Pump With Intake And Transom Ring For Sale

bigblockbill
02-15-2006, 11:16 AM
How to make a panther faster....Install a dominator
Seems like I have heard there is even a kit available so you don't have to change the intake. Not sure

olbiezer
02-15-2006, 12:01 PM
the only way to make a panther pump faster is to dump it in the middle of the lake.....goes like a bat out of hell stright down.......but really if u need some berkley stuff gary snow is the man he is sdba069 or just 69 not sure on here.

PANTHERJET
02-15-2006, 12:04 PM
Thanks Ill Try To Get A Hold Of Him

BigBlockBaja
02-15-2006, 12:25 PM
buy a pump on Ebay,
Then contact a few pump parts guys here on the board and rebuild it before ya even put a berk/dom/leg or at in your boat.

GUGS102
02-15-2006, 12:43 PM
If you decide to go the Berk route, I've got a bowl, droop/plate combo for sale in the spam section. I'll make you deal if you want it all. I've got the plate to run on the bowl if you don't run the droop too.
http://***boat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=105428
Gugs

mrossum
02-15-2006, 01:01 PM
Ive Been Told The Panther Isnt Going To Get Much Better So Does Any One Know Of Used Berk Style Pump With Intake And Transom Ring For Sale
i might be interested in your old panther if you decide to get rid of it...i don't need to go real fast. just need to go.

PANTHERJET
02-15-2006, 01:14 PM
I Have Got A Spare That Is Getting Sleeved Right Now I Would Sell That For A Good Deal

mrossum
02-15-2006, 03:39 PM
I Have Got A Spare That Is Getting Sleeved Right Now I Would Sell That For A Good Deal
how much, and does it have a diverter already installed?

PANTHERJET
02-15-2006, 04:13 PM
Around 1000 No Diverter

Cas
02-15-2006, 08:31 PM
how fast do you want to go?
what are the first 3 letters on your hull id? I'm not sure that Eliminator ever put a Panther in one of their boats? If they did, I've never seen one.

PANTHERJET
02-16-2006, 07:22 AM
the origanal numbers where glassed over found partial and called eliminator they thougth it was one of theres and talked to GS marine and he said when he worked at eliminator they built a few boats with the panther and olds combo I described the bottom to both of them and they agreed

PANTHERJET
02-16-2006, 07:23 AM
trying to get to 70 or so

Cas
02-16-2006, 08:16 AM
trying to get to 70 or so
Hmmm, that would mean you need to spin that Olds up to about 5300 to 5400 rpms. Do you have all the goodies in the engine for the oiling issues of the Olds?
Since it's probably an Eliminator, I would imagine the pump is installed correctly so the next question is, how's the bottom of the boat?
I put together a decent combo on that Tahiti Bubbledeck I mentioned in the other thread. We got 72mph out of it with just a cam, roller rockers, intake, carb and headers along with the pump I did but it was an 18' boat with a Chevy. Your boat would be a lot bigger challenge - weight, Olds, Panther.
What are your numbers now?

PANTHERJET
02-16-2006, 08:39 AM
The Engine Is Set Up With The Best Of Every Thing Mondello Recomends And Tolerances Are Set To Handle 6500 Going By There Book As Far As Weight I Have Never Got I Chance To Weigh It. The Pump Is Pretty Tite And Has Been Resealed And Bearing.

Cas
02-16-2006, 08:57 AM
I saw in the other thread that the bottom has been done...good deal.
Engine done....good deal... what's the horsepower?
At what rpm is the engine making it's peak torque? and horsepower?
If the hp is too high in the rpm band, say 6500, it'll be tough to get it there. The peak needs to be in the 5500 to 5800 range so it can get all available power to the pump.
A lot of these questions will pertain to your set-up no matter what pump you have. I built my engine to go into the Tahiti I had with a Panther, built it for peak hp at about 5800. Since I put the engine in a boat with a Berk and an A impeller, the engine can only get to about 4900. I'm leaving quite a bit of useful hp in the engine and until I do some changes, I won't ever get it out. Then again, only using what it is, the engine should last quite awhile.

PANTHERJET
02-16-2006, 09:18 AM
as far as the rpm the engine builds peak hp I dont know I did not dyno it. I can tell you what is in it if that helps. comp 292h cam 11:1 forged pistons E castings w34 heads with big valves and all the trick stuff, victor mainifold 750 edelbrock carb unilite igniton rewarder ot headers everthing mondello said and put in the oil pan kit and restrictors. Last time i was out i had the flame arrestor on and it cut rpm by 600 so I took it off and the at 58 mph on gps the boat would be at 5300 rpm max rpm i got out of it was 5900 when the trim plate was all the way up