4 - 10's One Amp Or Two...

[Pussywhippled]

I am going to be running 4 Cerwin Vega V-Max 10's and using an Alpine PDX 1.1000 amp or amps.
How many amps should I use one or two?
If I use one amp for all 4 speakers which ohm speakers should I use?
If I use one amp for each 2 speakers which ohm speakers should I use?
Alpine PDX 1.1000's
Cerwin Vega - V-max 10.2 DVC's 2 - 2ohm voice coils
Cerwin Vega - V-max 10.4 DVC's 2 - 4ohm voice coils
Tell me how these amps and subs should be set up...

[Havasu Hangin']

If it were me, I'd look at how much power I'm putting to my components. It's been my experience that anything over 2-1 ratio (bass watts to component watts) is probably bass overkill in a boat.

[Pussywhippled]

If it were me, I'd look at how much power I'm putting to my components. It's been my experience that anything over 2-1 ratio (bass watts to component watts) is probably bass overkill in a boat.
I'm not using any component speakers, bass only.
The bass is to drowned out my friggin screaming kids...

[Havasu Hangin']

I'm not using any component speakers, bass only.
Then go with about 4,000 watts of bass, a couple tweeters...
...and throw some 30" spinners (with hydraulics) on the trailer while you at it.

[Pussywhippled]

Then go with about 4,000 watts of bass, a couple tweeters...
...and throw some 30" spinners (with hydraulics) on the trailer while you at it.
Can't the gains on the amps be turned down (headroom) to match the rest of the system?
And as far as 30" spinners, wouldn't I still have to be a customer at GT to run those...
But I did see some sweet hydraulic trailers at the boat show that you just launch your boat like using a dump truck.

[Havasu Hangin']

Can't the gains on the amps be turned down (headroom) to match the rest of the system?
Yes...but why? That would be like buying a 1,400HP GT Performance engine, but swithing the EFI out for a single 750 carb because you want to save gas.
I've always designed systems to work together. More watts isn't always better...as long as the bass and components compliment each other. It can save you alot of money and battery headaches.
But that's just me...

[Pussywhippled]

Yes...but why? That would be like buying a 1,400HP GT Performance engine, but swithing the EFI out for a single 750 carb because you want to save gas.
I've always designed systems to work together. More watts isn't always better...as long as the bass and components compliment each other. It can save you alot of money and battery headaches.
But that's just me...
You win, ok you win, I give up...
Anybody else have an answer to my stupid question?

[Jordy]

Anybody else have an answer to my stupid question?
HH does make a good point. :D :D :D
p.s. If you're going to run that much bass, you'll probably want to invest in a couple of pairs of good caps to help the big bass hits. ;)

[Pussywhippled]

If you're going to run that much bass, you'll probably want to invest in a couple of pairs of good caps to help the big bass hits. ;)
Well I guess I didn't realize that 4 10's was really that much bass.

[Havasu Hangin']

Well I guess I didn't realize that 4 10's was really that much bass.
It is if you are only running a couple components off the head unit.
But if you are putting 3,000 watts to your components..it's time for four 18" Juggs at 1,500 watts each!
http://www.mmatsproaudio.com/images/jugbacksmall.jpg

[sponger_2]

i love mmat subs. esp, those juggernauts. even the 12" procasts hit hard. their amps are even better. no fans needed as they dont get hot, like all that other crap out there. ie; kicker, fosgate.

[Pussywhippled]

It is if you are only running a couple components off the head unit.
But if you are putting 3,000 watts to your components..it's time for four 18" Juggs at 1,500 watts each!
http://www.mmatsproaudio.com/images/jugbacksmall.jpg
Ok, fine...
Then to keep up with the 4 overpowered 10's, I'm also running 8 - 6 1/2's and 4 - tweeters.
So how should the system be set up ???
2 - Alpine PDX 4.150 mids & highs and 2 - Alpine PDX 1.100 bass
or
1 - Alpine PDX 4.150 tweeters 2 - Alpine PDX 4.150 Mids and 1 - Alpine PDX 1.100 bass
When someone has an answer let me know...

[Havasu Hangin']

Ok, fine...
Then to keep up with the 4 overpowered 10's, I'm also running 8 - 6 1/2's and 4 - tweeters.
So how should the system be set up ???
2 - Alpine PDX 4.150 mids & highs and 2 - Alpine PDX 1.100 bass
or
1 - Alpine PDX 4.150 tweeters 2 - Alpine PDX 4.150 Mids and 1 - Alpine PDX 1.100 bass
When someone has an answer let me know...
If it were me, I would probably go with option #1, since 150 watts RMS is too much for tweeters alone. One of those PDX 4.150's would have one 6 1/2" per channel (4 ohm load), and the other would have one 6 1/2" and one tweeter per channel (2 ohm load). Make sure the tweeters have a crossover in-line so you don't blow them.
For the subs, either will work since those amps put out the same power at a 2 ohm or 4 ohm mono load. I would probably go with the dual 2 ohm vc version (2 subs per amp), wire the vc in series for a 4 ohm load per sub, then wire two subs in parallel for each amp. This will give each amp a 2 ohm mono load- no worries.
But that's me- what the hell do I know?

[707dog]

my sugestion would be what ever amp you go with make sure it has a remote bass control knob..got one on the truck and boat good chit when you dont feel like having you ears pushed in by the bass or certain songs sound better with not so much bass very handy lil knob..my 2cents

[phebus]

HH does make a good point. :D :D :D
p.s. If you're going to run that much bass, you'll probably want to invest in a couple of pairs of good caps to help the big bass hits. ;)
And, go with a bank of 6V batteries :D

['78 gt boat]

I am going to be running 4 Cerwin Vega V-Max 10's and using an Alpine PDX 1.1000 amp or amps.
How many amps should I use one or two?
If I use one amp for all 4 speakers which ohm speakers should I use?
If I use one amp for each 2 speakers which ohm speakers should I use?
Alpine PDX 1.1000's
Cerwin Vega - V-max 10.2 DVC's 2 - 2ohm voice coils
Cerwin Vega - V-max 10.4 DVC's 2 - 4ohm voice coils
Tell me how these amps and subs should be set up...
To answer your question it all depends om if the amp can handle a 1 Ohm load or not. If you go with dual 4 Ohm woofers you can run each woofer in series which will take the woofer to 8 Ohms and then when you bridge them down each pair will be 4 Ohms. When you take the two pair and put them together on the amp you then show the amp a 2 Ohm load. If you go with dual 2 ohm woofers you will show the amp 1 ohm if you wire them the same way. Hope that helps.

['78 gt boat]

If you look at the manual for the woofers it shows a diagram of what I was talking about on how to wire them:)

['78 gt boat]

it also shows each woofer can handle 600 watts RMS (continuous power) so a 1000 watt amp running 4 of these will underpower the woofers. Go with 2 amps for 4 woofers.

[thmper321]

Ok, fine...
Then to keep up with the 4 overpowered 10's, I'm also running 8 - 6 1/2's and 4 - tweeters.
So how should the system be set up ???
2 - Alpine PDX 4.150 mids & highs and 2 - Alpine PDX 1.100 bass
or
1 - Alpine PDX 4.150 tweeters 2 - Alpine PDX 4.150 Mids and 1 - Alpine PDX 1.100 bass
When someone has an answer let me know...
I just worked on my buddies boat. It has 1-PDX1000.1 running 2 Type R 12" Subs and 2-PDX4.150 amps running to 3 pairs of Type S 6x9's. Two channels left open for possibly adding speakers in the engine hatch. Try not to run the PDX1000.1 down to 1 ohm. So, if you are going with 4 Dual 4ohm woofers you will be ok. The amount of bass also depends on the enclosure and where you are putting it.