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al cole'holic
02-07-2006, 07:56 PM
Hells Angels Win $990,000 Judgment
They Sued After Police Killed Three Guard Dogs in Raid
SAN JOSE, Calif. (Feb. 7) - Santa Clara County will pay nearly $1 million to settle a lawsuit brought by the Hells Angels Motorcycle Club after police shot and killed three guard dogs during raids of the group's headquarters and suspected members' homes.
The county Board of Supervisors approved the $990,000 settlement in a closed session Monday. The decision came two months after the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the county's arguments that sheriff's deputies should be immune from liability in the case.
The San Jose Police Department also was named in the suit because its officers shot the dogs, but the city hasn't worked out an agreement with club members. City Attorney Rick Doyle said the case may go to trial.
Lower court judges ruled that actions of the deputies and San Jose police officers during the January 1998 were unreasonable, most of the evidence obtained was unnecessary and the officers did nothing to avoid killing the animals. A lawyer for club members says a lot of property was destroyed in the raids and some evidence was kept for more than a year.
Ninety officers raided the club's San Jose headquarters and nine homes of suspected members to gather evidence against suspected member Steve Tausan who was being held on murder charges in connection with an August 1997 killing at a strip club.
Tausan was acquitted of all counts in 1999 after arguing the killing was in self-defense.
The settlement with the county includes $530,000 in attorney's fees and $460,000 to be divided among 15 people including eight current or former Hells Angels members, six spouses or significant others and one friend of a member.
Officers from Santa Clara and Gilroy also were involved in the raids, and those cities settled their cases several years ago for a total of less than $50,000, the plaintiffs' lawyer said.
02/07/06 10:20 EST

OGShocker
02-07-2006, 07:58 PM
$990,000.00 should buy a lot of "cook your own meth'" kits! :idea:

Jordy
02-07-2006, 08:03 PM
Support your local Red and White. ;)

slotracer
02-07-2006, 08:03 PM
if you knew the whole story you would think different.
pat(slotracer) :D

al cole'holic
02-07-2006, 08:05 PM
It's a sad day when we applaud a civil settlement in favor of a bunch of
criminals who got their "guard dogs" killed. :rolleyes: If you were, in fact, applauding.
Support your local SFV :crossx:

al cole'holic
02-07-2006, 08:06 PM
...just posting a story that popped up :boxed:

al cole'holic
02-07-2006, 08:09 PM
Being in the "industry", I guess you have to support them. :D
Not when a pack of Mongols walk by... :jawdrop:

OGShocker
02-07-2006, 08:11 PM
Not when a pack of Mongols walk by... :jawdrop:
OK, that was fockin' funny!:D:D:D

al cole'holic
02-07-2006, 08:17 PM
Aren't motorcycle shops considered geographically neutral, like a church? ;)
...hey, AMEN brother :)

RUSSO
02-07-2006, 08:24 PM
Biker Gangs....is It 1970...cool Idea.but All The Drugs And Crime Kinda Kill It..not Much Different Than The Bloods Or Crips..just My 2cents...

Cas
02-07-2006, 08:25 PM
a bunch of
criminals
how does it feel to be ignorant?

Hustler
02-07-2006, 08:30 PM
Support your local Red and White. ;)
:D :D

Cas
02-07-2006, 08:41 PM
I wouldn't know, ask your mom.
Oooo, that hurt :rolleyes:
c'mon Bob, I want to hear about all your knowledge on how all Hell's Angels are criminals.

RUSSO
02-07-2006, 08:49 PM
81 HUH...THE OLD 1% WHERE PRETTY COOL..DID A LIL READIN ON THAT :idea:

Jordy
02-07-2006, 08:55 PM
Yeah, I'm sure it was.
Well, he managed to convince a jury of 12 that it was:
Tausan was acquitted of all counts in 1999 after arguing the killing was in self-defense.
Guess you know better though huh??? :D :D :D
And "at that level?" What exactly does that mean? Sounds like they weren't even sure the guy was a member:
suspected member Steve Tausan
Dude, did you read the article??? :D

Cas
02-07-2006, 09:10 PM
here, read this
Hell's Angels target for bogus murder (http://www.hamcsj.com/law.htm)
so, where do lying cops fall into your beliefs?

NOTALENT
02-07-2006, 09:11 PM
Crazy...I work out with a Hell's Angel member...those guy's are fockin crazy!!!

Kilrtoy
02-07-2006, 09:37 PM
Snoop dog got off and he admitted to it... along with other crips......

LOWRIVER2
02-07-2006, 11:21 PM
Whatever the outcome,
Don't get all excited about cop's paying out of their own pockets, we don't.
As for what what get's settled in ANY court case, the truth on either side is NEVER at issue, it's about who's SALES PITCH, (D.A. or Defense) the jury buys. Based on the very low educational level of many Californians, it's amazing anyone gets convicted.
As for biker "gangs" , they are'nt much of a problem, mostly small time meth users, sellers and small prostitution rings.
I love how white criminals get all the "hype" of being so bad ass. I've never seen any white man take seven rounds to the ten ring and still fight four officers on the ground, I've seen ten hispanics/blacks do just that in my short 14 years. The white guys always give up around two rounds and bitch out.

wsuwrhr
02-07-2006, 11:33 PM
My answer to that is some people just know when it is time to quit.
:argue: :argue:
"bitch out", have you ever taken a bullet for the team? I haven't, but I doubt it feels warm and fuzzy.
Brian
I love how white criminals get all the "hype" of being so bad ass. I've never seen any white man take seven rounds to the ten ring and still fight four officers on the ground, I've seen ten hispanics/blacks do just that in my short 14 years. The white guys always give up around two rounds and bitch out.

LOWRIVER2
02-07-2006, 11:38 PM
Depends if you want to fight and win. White guys have too much reason. Guess that's why the "bad white guys" of any gang (motors/otherwise) don't come into LA county, they get their asses spanked by the competition and the law/ LOL

LOWRIVER2
02-07-2006, 11:39 PM
Hey, like I said , my observations, take em or leave em, fact is it happened, you have any experience to speak of? Share.

wsuwrhr
02-07-2006, 11:43 PM
Hey, like I said , my observations, take em or leave em, fact is it happened, you have any experience to speak of? Share.
I didn't mean it as an insult, just stated my opinion.
See above. As I said, I have not.
I asked if you had taken one for the team as well sir.
Brian

Hardly Satisfied
02-07-2006, 11:43 PM
That's Crazy

wsuwrhr
02-07-2006, 11:45 PM
Somehow I am thinking taking a bullet would not be an enjoyable experience.
Brian

LOWRIVER2
02-08-2006, 12:10 AM
Sir?
Sorry, I work for a living, putting assholes of all colors in jail is work, between doughnut breaks and general do nothingness that "everyone" just "knows" we do.
No, stabbed twice in my time . Held my own.

PowellScooter
02-08-2006, 03:09 AM
:crossx: very interesting discussion here......

vdrivenman
02-08-2006, 04:18 AM
H A are major share holders or owners of businesses. they have doctors, attorneys, and lots of business people invloved in their ranks.
i wasn't there so i never second guess another officers actions !
being shot is NOT an opition. it does happen,but it goes the same place with so many other things in your career,you bury it! i don't know too many that brag about being involved in a shooting either way.
to many of the younger LE think they have to be shot at or give the badguy the opition.
i seen some chilling,gut wrenching video of officers be shot and then executed and you just keep wondering when is he going to defend himself or just get back in the cruiser and drive off.just do something !

piper
02-08-2006, 04:35 AM
:crossx: very interesting discussion here......
Yes it is.
Support Your Local 81.

Jbb
02-08-2006, 04:36 AM
Sir?
Sorry, I work for a living, putting assholes of all colors in jail is work, between doughnut breaks and general do nothingness that "everyone" just "knows" we do.
No, stabbed twice in my time . Held my own.
Stabbing yourself in the hand...with your jelly donut fork.....will not get you the purple heart Gary............................ :p
whats up copper?

LOWRIVER2
02-08-2006, 06:20 AM
LOL,
Fact is,it's just like football, you hope to give more plastic than take it, in the end, all that matters is you win and 99.9% of the time, WE win, regardless of what a court says, so if I was the idiot, I'd think about that stat. But, as we all know, idiots don't think, hence my job security.
Hey, to each his own, I just laugh at how certain wanna be bad guys get so much hype when they really have'nt done enough to be a blip on the crime scene in the last ten years. There sure are a lot of nut swinging wanna be's that look up to the equivalent of low time collars in my book.

HammerDown
02-08-2006, 06:47 AM
The "The Black Widows" in (Every Which Way But Loose) were some bad mofo's :D

Jbb
02-08-2006, 06:55 AM
I always hated it when Eric Von Zipper would point his finger at his temple.....and lock up..... :p
http://www.thebambamproject.com/images/Eric%20Von%20Zipper.jpg
Check out all the gang related hot rod pics at ....Bikini Beach! (http://www.wediditforlove.com/diggers-Bikini-Beach.html)

big kahoona
02-08-2006, 07:18 AM
Whatever the outcome,
Don't get all excited about cop's paying out of their own pockets, we don't.
As for what what get's settled in ANY court case, the truth on either side is NEVER at issue, it's about who's SALES PITCH, (D.A. or Defense) the jury buys. Based on the very low educational level of many Californians, it's amazing anyone gets convicted.
As for biker "gangs" , they are'nt much of a problem, mostly small time meth users, sellers and small prostitution rings.
I love how white criminals get all the "hype" of being so bad ass. I've never seen any white man take seven rounds to the ten ring and still fight four officers on the ground, I've seen ten hispanics/blacks do just that in my short 14 years. The white guys always give up around two rounds and bitch out.
NOT ALL WHITE MEN !! I'LL PROMISE YOU ! R-M-C 6913

Tom Brown
02-08-2006, 07:20 AM
I feel bad ass when I listen to rap music. :cool:

big kahoona
02-08-2006, 07:29 AM
3 Cops Was Busted A Few Weeks Ago By The Fbi For Raiding Drug Houses And Keeping What They Found . Then Taking The Drugs Out Of State To Sale . I Feel That They're Alot Of Dirty Cops In This World.

Tom Brown
02-08-2006, 07:30 AM
I Feel That They're Alot Of Dirty Cops In This World.
Probably RAP fans.

superdave013
02-08-2006, 07:35 AM
someone please explain this red/white 81 thing. I don't ride and have know idea what it means.
And as far as Hell Angles being criminals or not I have another question.
What does a guy have to do to join that club?

Jordy
02-08-2006, 07:37 AM
What does a guy have to do to join that club?
I heard that you have to shoot 5 cops, 8 rival biker members and move 20 lbs of meth and that was on the internet so it must be true, right SWB? :D :D :D

Tom Brown
02-08-2006, 07:38 AM
What does a guy have to do to join that club?
25 to life.

big kahoona
02-08-2006, 07:41 AM
There's a lot of dirty everybody in the world. Did you just land on this planet 15 minutes ago?
Post a link to your story.
OOPS! MY POINT IS NOT ALL BIKERS ARE BAD . AND ALL COPS ARE GOOD .13 MINS.AGO . BUT THANKS FOR ASKING.

OGShocker
02-08-2006, 07:44 AM
OOPS! MY POINT IS NOT ALL BIKERS ARE BAD . AND ALL COPS ARE GOOD .13 MINS.AGO . BUT THANKS FOR ASKING.
You don't have to yell, just take that dick out of your mouth. If you do that we'll hear you just fine...:D

wsuwrhr
02-08-2006, 07:58 AM
What does a guy have to do to join that club?
Are you buying a Harley SD?
Brian

superdave013
02-08-2006, 08:12 AM
Are you buying a Harley SD?
Brian
No, but I did read Sonny's book some time ago. I know that makes me far from an expert on the subject. But from what I remember new guys are called prospects. So what's a prospect gotta do to join that club?

big kahoona
02-08-2006, 08:26 AM
You don't have to yell, just take that dick out of your mouth. If you do that we'll hear you just fine...:D
I DON'T YELL .I'VE SERVED MY COUNTRY FOR OVER 10 YRS.JUST TO PROTECT GEEKS LIKE YOU !

Jordy
02-08-2006, 08:28 AM
I DON'T YELL
Caps lock=YELLING ;)

HammerDown
02-08-2006, 08:47 AM
Of course not all bikers are bad. I don't think anybody said that.
I'm a biker and I'm bad...just ask me.

Havasu Cig
02-08-2006, 09:03 AM
someone please explain this red/white 81 thing. I don't ride and have know idea what it means.
And as far as Hell Angles being criminals or not I have another question.
What does a guy have to do to join that club?
Red & White are the colors of the H.A. and like other street gangs they use numbers to symbolize letters in the alphabet 8=H, 1=A.
I read Sonny's book as well and found in interesting but he is a little off on some of his views IMO.

Jbb
02-08-2006, 09:06 AM
Super Dave........Outlaw Biker!

Tom Brown
02-08-2006, 09:10 AM
Super Dave........Outlaw Biker!
He's got the gut for it. :cool:

Jbb
02-08-2006, 09:12 AM
He's got the gut for it. :cool:
Careful Tom.....One phone call to the Nanook chapter.......and you will be pelted with snowballs.....by days end.....

Jordy
02-08-2006, 09:23 AM
Super Dave........Outlaw Mountain Biker!
That better??? :D :D :D

Jbb
02-08-2006, 09:25 AM
That better??? :D :D :D
lol....Brokeback mountain biker?........j/k Dave.... :p

HM
02-08-2006, 09:30 AM
lol....Brokeback mountain biker?........j/k Dave.... :p
LOL

superdave013
02-08-2006, 11:39 AM
hey you fockers, I broke my coller bone. Not my back. :rolleyes:

OGShocker
02-08-2006, 12:13 PM
I DON'T YELL .I'VE SERVED MY COUNTRY FOR OVER 10 YRS.JUST TO PROTECT GEEKS LIKE YOU !
GEEK??? Fock you! I am an asshole!
Thank you for your service to this great country!

PalapaHead
02-08-2006, 12:23 PM
how does it feel to be ignorant?
When you're born ignorant, you really dont have nothing else to compare ignorant to. So, within the large void his cranium houses, ignorant seems 'normal', almost 'smart'. So please, show SHOCKWAVE some respect. :D :p

thesunking
02-08-2006, 05:52 PM
Look for Mel Gibson playing the role of retired ATF agent William Queen who infiltrated the Mongols (San Fernando chapter) in a 2 year sting operation that started in 1998. After Queen spent twenty-eight months as "Billy St. John," the bearded, beer-swilling, Harley-riding gang-banger, the truth of his identity became blurry, even to himself. Personally, the book is worth reading!
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/covers_450/9780345487520.jpg
"Under and Alone" the movie is slated for release in 2006?

PowellScooter
02-09-2006, 10:42 AM
someone please explain this red/white 81 thing. I don't ride and have know idea what it means.
And as far as Hell Angles being criminals or not I have another question.
What does a guy have to do to join that club?
In a nutshell, you do dont just join , you have to be invited by a member .

tbrown
02-09-2006, 12:40 PM
In a nutshell, you do dont just join , you have to be invited by a member .
and then you earn your patch!!!!!

dego red
02-09-2006, 01:33 PM
and then you earn your patch!!!!!
Yeah, by doing ANYTHING that your told to do.......no matter what.
red

Tom Brown
02-09-2006, 01:42 PM
Yeah, by doing ANYTHING that your told to do.......no matter what.
The brotherhood needs to keep itself strong. :cool:
Hi Red. Long time, no talkie. I'll give you a call in the next couple of days. :)

BIGAMIST
02-09-2006, 01:50 PM
Red & white are the only colors :wink:

big kahoona
02-09-2006, 01:56 PM
and then you earn your patch!!!!!
some say its easy to get your patch. and its harder to keep it! R-M-C 6913

dego red
02-09-2006, 02:21 PM
Hey Tom, look forward to your call.
red

tbrown
02-09-2006, 09:43 PM
some say its easy to get your patch. and its harder to keep it! R-M-C 6913
it is not as easy as you would think!!!!

RUSSO
02-16-2006, 04:02 PM
GOOD BOOK.I BOUGHT IT MONDAY..ANY MORE OUT THERE??
Look for Mel Gibson playing the role of retired ATF agent William Queen who infiltrated the Mongols (San Fernando chapter) in a 2 year sting operation that started in 1998. After Queen spent twenty-eight months as "Billy St. John," the bearded, beer-swilling, Harley-riding gang-banger, the truth of his identity became blurry, even to himself. Personally, the book is worth reading!
http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/covers_450/9780345487520.jpg
"Under and Alone" the movie is slated for release in 2006?

RiverDave
02-16-2006, 04:23 PM
Red & white are the only colors :wink:
KKK colors are Red n white aren't they?
http://www.christianbooksandthings.com/ballca31.jpg
Interesting website by the way.. Christian Books and things. LOL
RD

THATJEFFGUY
02-16-2006, 05:25 PM
GOOD BOOK.I BOUGHT IT MONDAY..ANY MORE OUT THERE??
Excellent book !! Here's three more good ones I've read on the subject....
Hells Angels - Hunter S. Thompson
Hells Angels Into the Abyss - Yves Lavigne
A Wayward Angel - George Wethern/Vincent Colnett

BIGAMIST
02-16-2006, 06:51 PM
KKK colors are Red n white aren't they?
LOL
RD
Is there something wrong with that? :wink: :D

hoolign
02-16-2006, 07:12 PM
Ralph Barger' good reads!

Coleitis22
02-16-2006, 08:57 PM
Ralph Barger' good reads!
You can read? 8th grade was good to you

hoolign
02-16-2006, 09:00 PM
You can read? 8th grade was good to you
Do you have a point here... or are you just happy to not lay a load on the rug after mommy spanked you for improper gramer??

Coleitis22
02-16-2006, 09:06 PM
Do you have a point here... or are you just happy to not lay a load on the rug after mommy spanked you for improper gramer??
Hooli, That is GRAMMER can you spell "grammer"??? actually back when I did get spanked, mommy always always took the rug out from under me.

hoolign
02-16-2006, 09:08 PM
Hooli, That is GRAMMER can you spell "grammer"??? actually back when I did get spanked, mommy always always took the rug out from under me.
assColeitis 1 ---Hooli 7 ..got me there !!! :rollside:

Coleitis22
02-16-2006, 09:11 PM
assColeitis 1 ---Hooli 7 ..got me there !!! :rollside:
Well Hooli.. I have just gotten into the better half of a 1.5 of Pendleton Canadian Whiskey. Damn good stuff you guys make up there... Don't mean to piss you off.

RUCAV
02-17-2006, 01:36 AM
how does it feel to be ignorant?
HA, Mongols, Vagos are gang members. If you think their not, your living in fantasy land.

RUCAV
02-17-2006, 01:37 AM
GOOD BOOK.I BOUGHT IT MONDAY..ANY MORE OUT THERE??
thats an excellant book