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Trailer Park Casanova
05-10-2007, 06:22 AM
We have the 340, 360 380 or 400 HP Vortex's options on the new Wakeboard Boat we're ordering.
The 360 gets teriffic fuel burn, and the gph drops geometrically as the HP options increase, with just a slight increase in noticable pulling power.
Seriously considering the 400hp just to do it.
Anyone go the full route and get the mega HP motor in their Wakeboard/ski boat?
Any good reasons to?

OutCole'd
05-10-2007, 06:24 AM
Resale Value?? I would think it would be easier to sell a boat with more HP.

DMOORE
05-10-2007, 10:05 AM
Also remember, you are still talking about small blocks. Even though the the motor is capable of making 400hp, most of the time it is not. You will be just cruising. What I have seen with friends boats , is that , regardless of the HP rating of the Vortec, the milage is very comparable. Think about it this way, how often are you actually at wide open throttle? Go for the big motor, you won't be disappointed. And like OutColed said, resale.
Darrell.

Trailer Park Casanova
05-10-2007, 03:49 PM
Thanks, we'll go big.

Flyinbowtie
05-10-2007, 06:28 PM
Hey TPC..
FWIW, I don't know if it makes any difference to you, but some of the H.O. engines require premium fuel. When we bought our Sanger DLX, it had the 320HP engine, and runs on regular. Best Buddy has a Sanger DXII with the "Black Scorpion" option, and he has to run the 91-octane stuff. His boat is a bit lighter, narrower, more ski specific.
As far as performance goes, the only difference we can see is he has a top end edge of about 3 MPH. No pulling difference, just a big diff when filling up.
You thinkn' maybe to bring that thing north this summer? I can show you some lakes that'll make you drool..:D

Trailer Park Casanova
05-11-2007, 07:18 AM
Good Points FBT, we'll consider that too.
Thanks.

Coach
05-12-2007, 07:34 AM
I have the 340 in my boat. Top end is about 41-42 mph. With the same boat and the 360 it is 44 mph and even with 400 top end is 48 mph. Overall you find they all work very well under load and the great HP is better if you are running a lot of ballast. I had over 1700 lbs of people and ballast last time out it ran the same out of the hole and top end only dropped to 39. Overall the hull design of wakeboats will create a slow boat. I made up my mind to get better fuel economy with my new boat vs speed. I 3/4 of a tank on a weekend trip now (30-35 gallons) vs the 70 gallons I was going through with my jet. What boat are you going to order? The biggest engine I would have ordered was the Malibu 383 Hammerhead. With Tige the 360 HT engine would just burn more gas and I don't run much ballast so it was not cost effective for me. I have been very happy with the performance of my 340. I spend the extra money on my stereo. My new moto is i don't go fast I go loud!:D

Coach
05-12-2007, 07:36 AM
Guys are talking resale but you will find most wakeboarders are not into the big engine but a strong engine that will pull all day on a tank of gas. Most guys like the 340-360 unless they are in altitude then the opt for the big blocks.

97SunsetterLX
05-13-2007, 05:52 AM
Opt for the bragging rights. Max out the HP...

Troubles No More
05-13-2007, 05:56 AM
TPC
You can check out BoatTEST.com for more info. The below is from 21ft Malibu.
Which boat did you buy?
Malibu Wakesetter VLX
Test Power: 1x325-hp Indmar Monsoon gas inboard
RPM MPH Knots TotalGPH MPG NMPG Range NM Range dBa
1500 8.1 7.0 2.8 2.89 2.52 91 79 76
2000 12.9 11.2 4.6 2.79 2.43 88 77 85
2250 18.5 16.2 5.3 3.49 3.04 110 96 90
2500 23.6 20.5 6.2 3.80 3.30 120 104 90
2750 26.7 23.2 7.0 3.81 3.32 120 104 85
3000 29.7 25.8 8.0 3.71 3.22 117 102 86
3250 32.2 28.0 9.2 3.50 3.04 110 96 91
3500 34.9 30.3 10.4 3.35 2.91 106 92 92
3750 37.3 32.4 12.3 3.03 2.63 95 83 96
4000 39.0 33.9 14.5 2.69 2.34 85 74 94
4500 42.9 37.3 19.4 2.21 1.92 70 61 90
5000 46.4 40.3 23.0 2.02 1.75 64 55 96

Troubles No More
05-13-2007, 06:04 AM
http://www.boattest.com/index.aspx
Tigé 24Vé
Test Power: 1 x 340-hp GM 5.7L Vortec EFI
RPM MPH Knots Total GPH MPG NMPG Range NM Range dBa
600 3.4 3.0 0.7 4.86 4.22 205 179 68
1000 5.5 4.7 1.1 4.95 4.31 210 182 68
1500 7.2 6.3 2.0 3.69 3.21 156 136 70
2000 10.3 9.0 3.3 3.17 2.76 134 117 85
2500 17.6 15.3 4.8 3.66 3.18 155 134 84
3000 24.8 21.5 6.3 3.96 3.44 168 146 82
3500 30.6 26.6 8.4 3.66 3.19 155 135 84
4000 34.4 29.9 11.0 3.13 2.72 132 115 85
4500 33.6 29.2 14.4 2.34 2.04 99 86 86
5000 41.7 36.3 19.5 2.14 1.86 90 79 87
5200 42.8 37.2 22.1 1.94 1.68 82 71 89

Trailer Park Casanova
05-13-2007, 11:24 AM
I like the Rz2, but the seating and price on the 22i took the cake from the family.
A really teriffic seating arrangment.
The R z2 is a really awesome wake board boat though.
Thanks for the info.

Coach
05-13-2007, 07:39 PM
I like the Rz2, but the seating and price on the 22i took the cake from the family.
A really teriffic seating arrangment.
The R z2 is a really awesome wake board boat though.
Thanks for the info.
Welcome to the Tige family!! Did you buy from Tige Watersports in Corona? Head on over to www.tigeowners.com and join the fun

SB
05-14-2007, 07:26 AM
If you're boat goes fast enough to ski and wakeboard, there is no advantage to the big engine. I wouldn't bother because those boats will never be fast.

Trailer Park Casanova
05-14-2007, 08:15 AM
If you're boat goes fast enough to ski and wakeboard, there is no advantage to the big engine. I wouldn't bother because those boats will never be fast.
Our last Tige had the 330 merc and really struggled to pull up two wakeboarders.
Not looking for speed, no one buying a towboat should consider that, need power vs MPG vs bragging rites.

fc-pilot
05-14-2007, 10:57 PM
Being a bigger guy I have felt the difference in power while being picked up skiing. There is nothing worse than being drown until the boat finally gets enough speed to pull you out of the water. If it were me I would go big.
Paul

Flyinbowtie
05-15-2007, 06:31 PM
Our last Tige had the 330 merc and really struggled to pull up two wakeboarders.
Not looking for speed, no one buying a towboat should consider that, need power vs MPG vs bragging rites.
That is strange, Ross.
Pulling off an extended pylon, with a 4-blade OJ prop, 30 gallons of fuel and 4 adult folks aboard, I can pull 2 boarders out no problem. GPS @ 4800 is 46ish..., but it ain't a race boat. Might have been your prop. I want to try one of the new ACME 3-blade CNC props, if I can scrape up the $ his summer...

Trailer Park Casanova
05-16-2007, 07:12 PM
I tell ya FBT, I moved to the ACME 13 X 12.5 machined and the difference was fantastic.
Best boat money I ever spent.
Even bought a spare with the cool carrying case and Jesus nut tool/puller.
Less vibration, and it had noticable more grip on the water.
The 22i is a heavy, fat boat with a colossal good ride of a tow boat and I think the give back is a bit of a slow hole shot.
Can't have it all in a boat perhaps.
Gotta give a little here, to gain a little there.
I think you're right,, we'll consider different pitches if it's an issue again.