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Cole1313
02-09-2006, 12:34 PM
Does it take, to make a V-Drive 18 ft runner style bottom hull, lake layup, go over 100 mph.
Thanks in advance
Fiat48
02-09-2006, 12:39 PM
I dunno hp numbers. But a decent BBC with 12 to 1 compression...decent roller cam and Iron 990's, tunnel ram dealio will do it. Prolly the right single carb setup will do it too. Lot depends on the boat and how good the bottom is (hooks).
Remember that is at sea level type air. And after 100 mph it gets a lot tougher.
Carnivalride
02-09-2006, 12:56 PM
I dunno hp numbers. But a decent BBC with 12 to 1 compression...decent roller cam and Iron 990's, tunnel ram dealio will do it. Prolly the right single carb setup will do it too. Lot depends on the boat and how good the bottom is (hooks).
Remember that is at sea level type air. And after 100 mph it gets a lot tougher.
Less will do it, in a 1900lb Hondo.
467
990heads
single 850 (flowed)
flat tappet cam
12.54:1
per GPS 101mph with 12's & 11x16prop, runs better mph with 18's
beaverfab
02-09-2006, 01:00 PM
Cole tr2 runner with 454, LS6 450hp + or - 16 pitch 11 1/8" casale with 18's turned 6500rpn to 6700 rpm ran 87mph, most days. :rollside:
Fiat48
02-09-2006, 01:01 PM
Yeah...thinking about this we did have a 75 Cole tr-1 with a flat tappet in it and it ran 102.
Cole1313
02-09-2006, 01:06 PM
Cole tr2 runner with 454, LS6 450hp + or - 16 pitch 11 1/8" casale with 18's turned 6500rpn to 6700 rpm ran 87mph, most days. :rollside:
Thanks!
superdave013
02-09-2006, 01:15 PM
alot if the boat set up is not right. More to it then lots of oats.
Carnivalride
02-09-2006, 03:17 PM
Cole tr2 runner with 454, LS6 450hp + or - 16 pitch 11 1/8" casale with 18's turned 6500rpn to 6700 rpm ran 87mph, most days. :rollside:
Seems like a lot of slip with an 11-1/8"x16 prop :idea:
Turning 6500rpm with 18's and a 16 pitch prop and 87mph gives you about 25% slip, are your numbers right?
Sangerboy
02-09-2006, 03:30 PM
It took about 650 hp to make my Sanger run 100. The Canyon is much more efficient could probably do it with 550 hp.
Fiat48
02-09-2006, 04:02 PM
It took about 650 hp to make my Sanger run 100. The Canyon is much more efficient could probably do it with 550 hp.
And probably less than that. Canyon's are very good boats.
Vdrive4ever
02-09-2006, 04:33 PM
how about a 76 hondo sprint, light lake layup
Sangerboy
02-09-2006, 04:37 PM
how about a 76 hondo sprint, light lake layup
Morg might have a pretty good handle on that, he ran one for quite awhile.
bigkatboat
02-09-2006, 04:40 PM
I thought you just put all of the billet trick stuff on any boat and it will go 100MPH! RIGHT? ('76 Hondo Sprint is a flat not a runner) Loren, quit showing off your knowledge.
Fiat48
02-09-2006, 04:47 PM
Or you just move to Reno. All the guys UP here tell me their boats run at least 100...especially the jets. Maybe it's like real estate. Location, location, location.
ColeTR2
02-09-2006, 05:49 PM
Does it take, to make a V-Drive 18 ft runner style bottom hull, lake layup, go over 100 mph. Thanks in advance
The motor in this runner bottom is for sale, huds old boat. complete 7K It ran 104 all day. call barry @ 714-655-5138
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/119New_Image_copyx.jpg
ACCEPTENCE
02-09-2006, 07:26 PM
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/119New_Image_copyx.jpg
I dig that picture, how is ol' HUUUUUDDDDD???
Vessel Assist Needles
EXTREMEBOATS
02-09-2006, 07:47 PM
:rolleyes: 550 hp. correct set up = 100mph from what I have learned not only myself but from Bill Devaney "Cole TR-2" builder and Bob McGrady "Wesco" builder. If everything is "RIGHT" you should see a 100mph with ease.
Mike :argue:
V-DRIVE VIDEO
02-09-2006, 08:30 PM
Who needs a runnerbottom?
650 hp = 121 mph :devil:
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/SS-70%20Kilo%20001.jpg http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/SS-70%20Kilo.jpg
Carnivalride
02-10-2006, 04:26 AM
I thought you just put all of the billet trick stuff on any boat and it will go 100MPH! RIGHT? ('76 Hondo Sprint is a flat not a runner) Loren, quit showing off your knowledge.
How about you stick it on ebay........all the ones on ebay run at least 100mph :D :D :D
Carnivalride
02-10-2006, 04:27 AM
Who needs a runnerbottom?
650 hp = 121 mph :devil:
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/SS-70%20Kilo%20001.jpg http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/SS-70%20Kilo.jpg
Guess you don't! :crossx: :crossx: Nice numbers! :cool: :cool: :cool:
beaverfab
02-10-2006, 04:42 AM
The numbers are right, yes to much slip. Was ready to try new prop but lost a valve. New motor but not back in the boat at this time. j.j.
Brazos River Rat
02-10-2006, 05:32 AM
Hey J.J.
What you putting in it ??
Carnivalride
02-10-2006, 06:18 AM
The numbers are right, yes to much slip. Was ready to try new prop but lost a valve. New motor but not back in the boat at this time. j.j.
I understand the set backs, good luck getting it back together.
MAXIMUS
02-10-2006, 06:49 AM
My buddy has a sanger runner bottom with a 12-1 468, aluminum pro topline heads (no porting), old weiand tunnel ram, 2-850's on av gas. Spins 22's (not sure exactly his prop) around 7000 & to the plus side. He runs 105 on the gps consistantly! Very quick too! This I am told is abnormal for most sanger runners as his is by no means a light weight deal.
Whats the e.t. for an average 100-102 mph flat?
Cole1313
02-10-2006, 08:13 AM
The motor in this runner bottom is for sale, huds old boat. complete 7K It ran 104 all day. call barry @ 714-655-5138
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/119New_Image_copyx.jpg
How much for the HULL??????
Carnivalride
02-10-2006, 08:34 AM
Whats the e.t. for an average 100-102 mph flat?
Man what a loaded question :rolleyes:
I'd say depending on weight, set up, prop and gearing 102mph should be in the 10.00-10.40 range on average. :)
Bobbo541
02-10-2006, 09:01 AM
Hey Chris hows it going , when i ran my 76 cole tr1 we were runnig 10.0's at 100 to 106.
ColeTR2
02-10-2006, 09:20 AM
How much for the HULL??????
Just the motor is for sale. The hull is getting a new 632ci injected big chief.
Cole1313
02-10-2006, 10:11 AM
Just the motor is for sale. The hull is getting a new 632ci injected big chief.
I know. Didnt you just buy that Hull??
AzMandella
02-10-2006, 11:21 AM
514 12 to 1 comp. Trick Flow heads roller cam with 2-750's with 11-1/2 x 15 with 22's at 6800 got 84 on the GPS.Well after alot of head scratching because we know it should run at least a 100mph we remembered that the prop on the boat was back cut so much to give a lot of slip to get the boat out of the hole when pulling skiers with the 400 hp motor that was in it at the time.And that's with a boat that's bare hull weight is around 850 lbs.Man that prop's ears are at least 1/3 less the size than the other props my buddy had on the shelf.Going to go to the lake in March to try out some more props before I order on from Menkins.Menkins actually made this prop also.
MAXIMUS: I watched your buddys Sanger run 104 and if I remember right it was faster than your Eliminator blowen (jet) boat by 1 mph or so??? I watched the radar gun that day!!!!! :skull:
your firend
jw
ColeTR2
02-10-2006, 03:55 PM
I know. Didnt you just buy that Hull??
No not me. A friend Barry Black got it from HUD, it's a Howard runnerbottom
superdave013
02-10-2006, 04:00 PM
No not me. A friend Barry Black got it from HUD, it's a Howard runnerbottom
I thought it bought it from some guy named Hud. :p
ColeTR2
02-10-2006, 04:10 PM
I thought it bought it from some guy named Hud. :p
Barry felt so bad when that came out in the HB article. When HB called him to get the info on the boat. His father had just had a stroke at the NJBA race and was in a coma and his mom was in the hospital to. Berry has had a very tough year with his parents.
V-DRIVE VIDEO
02-10-2006, 04:56 PM
MAXIMUS: I watched your buddys Sanger run 104 and if I remember right it was faster than your Eliminator blowen (jet) boat by 1 mph or so??? I watched the radar gun that day!!!!! :skull:
your firend
jw
Wow Max, all that from a 14-71, Enderle injected, tunnel boat? :rollside:
FLYTE RISK
02-10-2006, 05:06 PM
Barry felt so bad when that came out in the HB article. When HB called him to get the info on the boat. His father had just had a stroke at the NJBA race and was in a coma and his mom was in the hospital to. Berry has had a very tough year with his parents.
So was Hud's old boat ran through the light's at Ming?? If so what was the E.T? Just Curious :boxed:
MAXIMUS
02-10-2006, 05:33 PM
MAXIMUS: I watched your buddys Sanger run 104 and if I remember right it was faster than your Eliminator blowen (jet) boat by 1 mph or so??? I watched the radar gun that day!!!!! :skull:
your firend
jw
BUT...BUT...BUT... :cry: :cry: :cry: LOL hi Jim! :)
MAXIMUS
02-10-2006, 05:36 PM
Wow Max, all that from a 14-71, Enderle injected, tunnel boat? :rollside:
Hey... "I" was having an "OFF" day ok! :cry: So back off! Besides I put that thing together for him so it must have been my touch! :rolleyes:
MAXIMUS
02-10-2006, 05:36 PM
You know not everything needs to be common knowledge... JIM! :notam:
Max your such a stud. I've seen you drive your GN boat and JET Boat :rollside: GOD you make me proud.
JW
dmontzsta
02-10-2006, 07:33 PM
Max your such a stud. I've seen you drive your GN boat and JET Boat :rollside: GOD you make me proud.
JW
He also makes a fine housewife. You should see how fast he can clean the house and do the laundry. :)
Morg might have a pretty good handle on that, he ran one for quite awhile.
My Hondo was a battle ship, very heavy. It was set up as a ski boat. The v-drive was around 20" to close to the transom. But.....
With a 10.4:1 BBF, spinning 6K, 18 gear, big eared stellings. I got 85 mph out of her.
Tough to compare to anything.
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