Ideal lake flatty

[Vdrive4ever]

What make of flat bottom hull would be best for a mostly lake boat.

[Big Proppa]

check your pm

[lucky]

What make of flat bottom hull would be best for a mostly lake boat.
best All around would'nt be a flattie -- I'd say a schiada 19' v bottom

[dmontzsta]

biesmeyer

[AzMandella]

If your talking about an 18' size boat Mandella's make great lake boats if you can find one.They are not atrue flattie but have a slight v all the way back but not too much of a v so they are still fast boats that get up on top of the water.

[DansBlown73Nordic]

Stevens also have a little V.....

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

What make of flat bottom hull would be best for a mostly lake boat.
This is still too vague to answer correctly. What may be right for you may be wrong for another and vice versa.
What do you want the boat to do for you?
--Jerry

[Cole1313]

Ive heard that the TR6 and the TR2 make good lake boats. I like the one in the first pic.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/SweetThang97055/flats.jpg

[waterwitch]

Our Kurtis 500 would be a great lake boat!
It's been on Havasu a couple time. And it must
must must go!!

[flattie440]

a new Cole TR4 would be nice :rollside:

[dmontzsta]

I like how everyone picks their own boat. :D

[superdave013]

they are all fine at 6AM.

[Rattle Can Lou]

This is a question that you can compare to buttholes. You are going to get opinions of every angle. In my lifetime I never drove a true runner and I have yet to ride in or drive a B Boat. I did drive a Cole V-Bottomed boat that had a T-Deck and a nasty little small block in it that was kick in the ass. About 85 maybe 90 mph with a beautiful ride in the not so cool water. Any older flat is going to be fun if you have not owned one before. ie: Stevens, Wickens, Aqua-Craft, Rayson-Craft, Howard, Hallett and on and on. The older boats have a heavier layup and feel more solid to the novice hot boater. But if you want fast and light feeling than leave the afore mentioned boats on the trailer.

[ssmike]

biesmeyer
biesemeyer is what I think you mean to say...

[dmontzsta]

biesemeyer is what I think you mean to say...
yeah, too fast, but only if you agree.
:)

[Towndrunk]

Your Sanger after you buy it from me. :p

[FlatStupid]

biesemeyer is what I think you mean to say...It'll be Hondo if thats what he owns next! :D :D

[v-drive]

Your Sanger after you buy it from me. :p
You have a Sanger for sale? :rollside: :rollside:

[BILLY.B]

This is a question that you can compare to buttholes. You are going to get opinions of every angle. In my lifetime I never drove a true runner and I have yet to ride in or drive a B Boat. I did drive a Cole V-Bottomed boat that had a T-Deck and a nasty little small block in it that was kick in the ass. About 85 maybe 90 mph with a beautiful ride in the not so cool water. Any older flat is going to be fun if you have not owned one before. ie: Stevens, Wickens, Aqua-Craft, Rayson-Craft, Howard, Hallett and on and on. The older boats have a heavier layup and feel more solid to the novice hot boater. But if you want fast and light feeling than leave the afore mentioned boats on the trailer.Quite an astute answer from such a "Jack Off". No wonder your #1 movie was "Broke Dick Mountain",you always have to refer to the BUTT!!!!

[Vdrive4ever]

To be more specific, a 18' flat bottom. #1 Something that will run 100+, #2 Somethat tame enough to cruise with, another words not a blown alky motor :rollside:

[Vdrive4ever]

they are all fine at 6AM.
Very true, especially with these big ass boats on the water :rolleyes: . I'm not looking to always run on the glass, something that will handle the rough to some degree as well. The bboat looks like it handles pretty well in the rough

[DUNDUN]

ski boat=HALLETT! :cool:

[Roaddogg 4040]

Rayson Craft LP or GN with Bostrom Seats in it... Then you get a great ride and a great looking ride all in one boat... :220v: :rollside:
Steve

[Fiat48]

To be more specific, a 18' flat bottom. #1 Something that will run 100+, #2 Somethat tame enough to cruise with, another words not a blown alky motor :rollside:
So THAT"S where I got it wrong! Dang! Missed it on #2. :)

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

To be more specific, a 18' flat bottom. #1 Something that will run 100+, #2 Somethat tame enough to cruise with, another words not a blown alky motor :rollside:
Is this your toy or do you feel obligated to provide a comfortable setting for a wife/girlfriend or maybe some buddies? If so to what level are you willing to go for them? examples; lounge seating, large cooler, stereo, bimini top, smooth ride, tubing and ski capabilities?
What kind of cruising are we talking here? Havasu bridge? Laughlin to havasu springs? Or maybe just tooling around lake Elsinore?
What's a bigger priority, quick acceleration from a dead stop or turning ability?
Is fuel mileage a concern?
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IMO a heavy runnerbottom is a great lake boat but tends to be a little bumpy. The old school style flattys will push through the water because they are so heavy and traditionally they aren't built to run much over 80.
The Biesemeyers (and copys of), Barron sprint, Eliminator spider etc 70's circle racers are smoother over bad water but these same boats won't work if the motor placement is compromised say from back seats. Correct or "forward" motor placement can adversely limit your "back seat" interior space.
Lots of variables and different types of hulls out there and many ways to accomplish 100+ over some chop with cruising thrown in.
examples of hundred + cruisers...
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Allen%201.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/Fishing.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Les.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Scum%201.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_River%20Rats%20Video%20Pics%20011.jpg

[Kindsvater Flat]

Family lake boat but far from being a 100+ boat. And its heavy. 3450 on the trailer.
http://www.schoutenranch.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_k%20flat.JPG

[olbiezer]

all lake boat........bass boats pass me on my good days lol.......not really but some are faster lol ......barron sprint.....i normally wouldnt do this but its been so slow in here the last few weeks lol
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1789adsf.JPG

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

Family lake boat but far from being a 100+ boat. And its heavy. 3450 on the trailer.
http://www.schoutenranch.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_k%20flat.JPG
Weigh it again without the seats. :devil:

[FLYTE RISK]

Weigh it again without the seats. :devil:
Or the DRIVER.... :boxed: :rollside:

[Vdrive4ever]

Is this your toy or do you feel obligated to provide a comfortable setting for a wife/girlfriend or maybe some buddies? If so to what level are you willing to go for them? examples; lounge seating, large cooler, stereo, bimini top, smooth ride, tubing and ski capabilities?
What kind of cruising are we talking here? Havasu bridge? Laughlin to havasu springs? Or maybe just tooling around lake Elsinore?
What's a bigger priority, quick acceleration from a dead stop or turning ability?
Is fuel mileage a concern?
----------------------
IMO a heavy runnerbottom is a great lake boat but tends to be a little bumpy. The old school style flattys will push through the water because they are so heavy and traditionally they aren't built to run much over 80.
The Biesemeyers (and copys of), Barron sprint, Eliminator spider etc 70's circle racers are smoother over bad water but these same boats won't work if the motor placement is compromised say from back seats. Correct or "forward" motor placement can adversely limit your "back seat" interior space.
Lots of variables and different types of hulls out there and many ways to accomplish 100+ over some chop with cruising thrown in.
I would say it would be 70% toy and 30% for girlfriend/buddies. The degree of confort would be seating for 4. It would be nice to be able to put 4 in but then again it depends on the hull and engine placement. Cruising meaning tooling around elsinore, not slow idling for miles, or a 40 mile river cruise. Priority would be on quick acceleration than turning ability. Fuel mileage is no biggie, as long as theres the option to put in pump gas, though higher octane runs much better on a higher performance engine. So do all of the b boats have semi enclosed sides. Because it would be more practical to have saddle to prevent having to fill up so often.
How much more power is needed in the older molds versus the newer molds because of the weight factor, and is it better to go with heavier and more power or lighter with less, in regards to handling chop.

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

I would say it would be 70% toy and 30% for girlfriend/buddies. The degree of confort would be seating for 4. It would be nice to be able to put 4 in but then again it depends on the hull and engine placement. Cruising meaning tooling around elsinore, not slow idling for miles, or a 40 mile river cruise. Priority would be on quick acceleration than turning ability. Fuel mileage is no biggie, as long as theres the option to put in pump gas, though higher octane runs much better on a higher performance engine. So do all of the b boats have semi enclosed sides. Because it would be more practical to have saddle to prevent having to fill up so often.
How much more power is needed in the older molds versus the newer molds because of the weight factor, and is it better to go with heavier and more power or lighter with less, in regards to handling chop.
4 seat 100 mph flatbottoms are rare to say the least. The few boats doing it have very little room in those 2 tiny back seats.
This is a gull bottom Sanger that I saw run 96 several years ago (radar).
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_4%20seater%20flattys%20006.jpg
As you can see here B boats do not have much interior room. The ski deck version and Kelron spitfire has a little more but 4 seats is asking a lot.
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_4%20seater%20flattys%20005.jpg
These two boats have 4 seats and they handle terrible. Having the motor way back is condusive to porpoising.
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_4%20seater%20flattys%20001.jpg
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_4%20seater%20flattys%20002.jpg
I recommend just going with 2 seats but 4 can be done. With so many different hulls out there its difficult to generalize but an old heavy boat will need a lot of power and possibly shaft angle changes to run 100 safely.
How about a hydro? :boxed:
http://www.v-drivevideo.com/jerrysgallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_4%20seater%20flattys%20004.jpg

[dmontzsta]

Jerry,
Is that Renegade boat Jim's? those seats look familiar. :)
Buying a boat is going to be a big decision, you really need to think about what you will do with it, that is going to help you make the best decision.

[Vdrive4ever]

After doing some thinking I have a better idea of what I want. It is going to be my toy. Forget 4 seats, 2 seats is much more realistic. My main goal with this boat is something fast (100+). As far as the hull is concerned I would rather go a layup that isnt super heavy. What kind of engine setup would meet this mark (non-alchohol). I'm open for hull makes beis, hondo, cole... I would prefer a hull that can have saddle tanks in order to prevent from filling up too often.

[Cole1313]

After doing some thinking I have a better idea of what I want. It is going to be my toy. Forget 4 seats, 2 seats is much more realistic. My main goal with this boat is something fast (100+). As far as the hull is concerned I would rather go a layup that isnt super heavy. What kind of engine setup would meet this mark (non-alchohol). I'm open for hull makes beis, hondo, cole... I would prefer a hull that can have saddle tanks in order to prevent from filling up too often.
I asked this exact question in another thread, about a week ago. It doesnt take much, if the set up is right.

[meaniam]

they do make hell of a fishing boat! i love this pic. im going to copy this and send it to my buddy who just bought a throphy boat and spent 50k..tell him i have 40k left..
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c188/meanchevelle909/flatbottomfishing.jpg