Tell me about this place.... Sundance in Parker.

[beaverretriever]

This place looked awesome. It is right on the river in Parker. It is all gated and boarded up.
When did it originally open, and when did it shut down?
Why did it shut down? A place like that looks like it would rock.
I would love to know more about this old bar.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/508647776_e80adb82d0.jpg?v=0

[Troy McClure]

That place use to go off. From what i heard it changed hands a few times and never really took off. HUGE inside, there would be 100 people in there and it would seem dead, maybe that was the problem, too big.

[Trailer Park Casanova]

At one time it was a nice niteclub, always loved it.
Had food, even waitresses, pretty bartenders.
Usually a good band on the weekends and Holidays.
2 for 1 drink specials all the time, and on top of that, the drinks were cheap to begin with.
People used to bring their dogs in too. Big cans of bread crumbs on the bar to feed the carp and bass from the dock.
Had it's share of fights and problems.
You could look for trouble and find it, or just as easily avoid it there.
Damfino why, but it just slid downhill. Shame really, never be another place like it.
Kenny, owner of the Desert Bar, told me that the Bars along the river aren't the cash cows people may think they are.
It was kinda of a titty bar for a spell too, and that chased off any groups of single girls going there,, which in turn, caused the male customers to go elsewhere, that is, to where all the girls went.
Boatcop once listed a long laundry list of hits against the Lick-her License. Most probably recieved way before his time.
Once, when it was rented to another operator who re-named it the Showdown,, the story goes the Health Dept flushed glow-in-the-dark phosphorus flouricene down the toilets, then shined a black lite on the water from the dock,, and it lite up like a Thai whorehouse, getting the place closed.
Don't hold me to that story, damfino if it's true, but I heard it told and re-told a lot at the Emerald rumor mill.
BoatCop probably has the official take on what probably killed the Sundance though.
Last time I was there a few years back, we saw RD holding court with a flock of fine babes all foam dancing in suggestive moves.
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[Parker Dreamin]

the place went off on a good weekend........
you could jump on their pontoon boat and get a ride there........
I have heard talk of some condos going in.... but you know how it is when people talk.

[Wheeler]

I believe the Bacca family still owns it. The Bacca brothers went to El Dorado HS in Placentia Ca..

[Havasu1986]

I went there a couple times in the early 80's. Had some good bands. Does anyone remember the Rock Palace.:)

[OCMerrill]

Parents had a beater trailer accross the river at Echo for 20+ years. I have seen some crazy stuff from accross the river. Many a Saturday night we kids used to sit on the river bank waiting for our parents to motor back accross. We always fell asleep before they came back.
Sundance has had money problems for years, various owners, its caught fire twice (each time it recovered larger than before). New blood shows up and bleads out.
I have seen jet boats squirt the upper deck when it was full of people.:eek: Used to be a wild place in the 70's and I suppose 80's.
Took a downhill turn in the late 90's with one of the last dumbass deals being the release of raw sewage into the river a few years back.
Its in a HORRIBlE location. No beach to speak of so boat parking just used to suck. They were limmited on dock space and thus limited on money intake IMHO. They rented jet skiis out of there for a few years as well. Drunk Jet ski rentals....:eek: :D
Roadrunner works because of the Beach at LaPaz park. Lots of boat parking. I think they also have a hard time making money. There is a story behind every place on the river.
I am 40 and I have 1000's of stories. Don't even get my Dad started. The shit they used to do...and Sundance was part of all that.
I wonder how long before its torn down?

[sleekcraft80]

This place looked awesome. It is right on the river in Parker. It is all gated and boarded up.
When did it originally open, and when did it shut down?
Why did it shut down? A place like that looks like it would rock.
I would love to know more about this old bar.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/508647776_e80adb82d0.jpg?v=0
Sundance and Foxes was thee place to party in the 70s. Crazy fun at both places

[uvindex]

Their beers were upside down. (They'd take a canned Coors Lite, for example, and punch triangular holes in the bottom of the can so everybody was walking around with upside-down cans -- to keep people from bringing in their own beers.) Would always take newbies a while to get used to that!
It was always one of our stops back in the day (mid-nineties). The wet t-shirt contests, the "Peter Meter" guy, drunk friends entering the macho man contests, .... Good times! :)

[JB in so cal]

How about wet t-shirt contests and the "peter meter" guy with the leather skin? Upside down beers, fights, drunk young girls....good times, good times:D

[JB in so cal]

wow. almost a double post on the peter meter guy. LOL.

[uvindex]

wow. almost a double post on the peter meter guy. LOL.LOL. I forgot about his leather skin. The thing that stands out in my memory is his bug eyes when he was leering at all the young chicks. :D

[life's a river]

Sundance was awesome! Good fights, Hot chicks and Good bands on the weekends. Pull the boat right up to the dock and party till 1:00 and then off to Bender's till 2:00 am. Great times. And the last song of the night was always "MARGARITAVILLE"!
LAR

[Nord]

Foam parties at the sundance.............I remember those days......
Good times!! I remember when that guy (who actually ended up in a fatal accident) with the boat "Overkill" was always there. Really nice guy....
~NORD~

[beaverretriever]

AWESOME, thanks for the info.
Sounds and looks like it would have been an awesome place. It would be great if someone started it up again. I hate to see neat stuff like that go out of business. :(
Does anyone have any indoor shots?

[sleekcraft80]

Sundance was awesome! Good fights, Hot chicks and Good bands on the weekends. Pull the boat right up to the dock and party till 1:00 and then off to Bender's till 2:00 am. Great times. And the last song of the night was always "MARGARITAVILLE"!
LAR
We used to always stay at Ah Villa Park where alchohol, drugs and naked people were at:D

[RaceFace]

I've been there a ton of times. I remember showing up....don't remember leaving. :D :D :D

[RiverRatMike]

This place looked awesome. It is right on the river in Parker. It is all gated and boarded up.
When did it originally open, and when did it shut down?
Why did it shut down? A place like that looks like it would rock.
I would love to know more about this old bar.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/508647776_e80adb82d0.jpg?v=0
I had some drunken days at that place. Also got tons of wild video at the sundance I took back in the late 80's and early 90's

[shrek]

A buddys uncle owns the place still........he has sold it several times, carries the paper, and the new owners kept defaulting......
We have been threatening, joking, dreaming of buying it for years and making it our "compound"...........
Shrek

[framer1]

We used to always stay at Ah Villa Park where alchohol, drugs and naked people were at:D
Used to stay there in the early 70's. The Sundance was actually called the Rumrunners back then.....Man those were some great times. Naked woman everywhere, I had a VW van back then and woman used to come by every night to spend the night:) The CA side even got wilder than the AZ side of the river. Very fun and no LE to speak of:idea: If you owned a boat you were the man around town, not many young people with boats back then.

[OCMerrill]

That leather skinned guy used to drive that poon-toon boat up and down the river collecting customers for the wet t-shirt contests.
The toon was still parked there last season anyway.
Fun.

[Kokopelli]

Remember Troublemaker?
Yep, I remember that boat.
Pontoon boat used to go up and down the river picking up people for the bar. The boys called it the "Hubba Hubba" boat because that's what the guy would say on the loudspeaker.
I also have videos taken during the 80's. Just saw them and wanted to put them on DVD whenever I can figure it out. The boys were just watching one and laughing at how old the boats looked. Then the girls were flashing everywhere. The boys said "Damn, they don't even do that now"!
Good times!

[mobldj]

back in 94 it was my first river trip with rick and linda(no digg) with my 16ft tahiti.sundance was the place to go for noontime wet tshirt contest(remeber the peter meter) and for the girls the macho man contest(i actually won once,fat and sexy bitch that i am)pool,live bands,1.00 tacos.it was the reason for going to parker.foxs and roadrunner are cool but will never match the sundance.the sundance pontoon going up and down the river with hootchies on the sides drummin up business for that night.and how creepy was the owner.almost look possessed.last i heard it was sold and gonna be torn down for condos.

[OCMerrill]

Yep, I remember that boat.
Pontoon boat used to go up and down the river picking up people for the bar. The boys called it the "Hubba Hubba" boat because that's what the guy would say on the loudspeaker.
I also have videos taken during the 80's. Just saw them and wanted to put them on DVD whenever I can figure it out. The boys were just watching one and laughing at how old the boats looked. Then the girls were flashing everywhere. The boys said "Damn, they don't even do that now"!
Good times!
There used to be massive float-tie-ups with tons of naked peeps just loaded and floating. I was fully educated in this dept. by the age of 6:D :D

[beaverretriever]

This is awesome stuff, thanks guys and girls. I would have loved to have seen that place in its heyday.

[Baja Big Dog]

Ah..Sundance.
If it was not for Sundance:
I wouldnt have had to deal with the drinking problem I have.
I would not have had to repair my boat twice from running into the docks..drunk.
I wouldnt have caught the crabs
I wouldnt have a stab wound (drunk Indian)
I wouldnt have banged by buddies sister.
And I wouldnt give any of it back..(except for the knife thng!!)
:D

[Windy]

Foam parties at the sundance.............I remember those days......
Good times!! I remember when that guy (who actually ended up in a fatal accident) with the boat "Overkill" was always there. Really nice guy....
~NORD~
I remember the foam parties...they even had Pina Colada flavord foam. Rivertoys Jason was the foam shark. :D

[beaverretriever]

Ah..Sundance.
If it was not for Sundance:
I wouldnt have had to deal with the drinking problem I have.
I would not have had to repair my boat twice from running into the docks..drunk.
I wouldnt have caught the crabs
I wouldnt have a stab wound (drunk Indian)
I wouldnt have banged by buddies sister.
And I wouldnt give any of it back..(except for the knife thng!!)
:D
Sounds like a great place. :D
Anyone have indoor pix...

[Trailer Park Casanova]

I don't think cameras had been invented when it was open last. ;)
For years I camped with the LAFD boat and Ski Club at Echo.
We always ended up at (Rumrunners) Sundance.
The bouncers knew me & left me alone, so I'd tape the Wet-t shirt contests for the firemen because the bouncers gave them crap for it.
Also the fights, the flashing,, some of the LAFD guys have some good tapes going back to the mid 70's.

[pw_Tony]

I'm too young for the good days of Sundance... but my pops told me how they would tie boats up at dusk end to end, bout 50 boats deep. And when someone needed a drink they would walk over everyone's boat bridge to get one. That and they used to watch the drags up close there since that part is so skinny...

[Racey]

I say everyone on the ***boat forums chips in and turns into our own private party oasis at the river, with a nice private launch, Co-ed bunk rooms, add in a never ending supply of beer on tap, vodka, a dozen or so stripper poles, and a killer sound system. and you have yourself one hell of a party!!!:D :D :D :D

[Racey]

I don't think cameras had been invented when it was open last. ;)
I have one of those memorial day weekend on the colorado river videos, there is some bitchin footage from sundance, some guy has about 10 people in a little 19 footer eliminator type v-bottom with MAYBE 6 inches of freeboard, takes one over the back and the whole deal goes under in under 2 seconds, everyone is scrambling, it was from the tupac days in the late 90's, every other song in the background is "California Love":D it's hillarious. i gotta dig that thing up

[RCB19]

Can't even begin to tell you how many good times I had at that place back in the day. Nick was the name of the cat behind the wheel of the rally pontoon boat and of course the Peter Meter. $1.50 beers and when it was happy hour you got 2 for that price. Bumms me out every time I drive past in and see it all boarded up. That building is a piece of river history. At least it is for me.

[Baja Big Dog]

So, you only went there one time? :D
I think so!!

[Baja Big Dog]

Sounds like a great place. :D
Anyone have indoor pix...
I think so but those fricken crabs are so small you may not be able to see them!!!:D

[mobldj]

heres a pic from last summer

[out of bounds]

Wish i could scan pic and post them from big weekends from the late 80s and 90s, some great pic ,with every body in neon pink and grenn and okeys,lol man I miss sundance, and the water tower that said sky ya later that was Parked when it was still funn. I was told the the chef of police of parker owned it at one time??? Most of the people got introuble with the IRS from what i was told, A group of invester that i am in where going too buy it at 1 time and it had a long list of past problems that others had mention and we walked from it. I had the same dreams of wanting a pice of it as everybody has mentioned.I so miss the fun times it use to give all of us. Nothing like seeing a hot chic in a thong playing pool.

[pw_Tony]

So what's gonna end up of this place? Someone gonna keep it a bar or are they gonna build some condos or something?:( :( :(

[OCMerrill]

heres a pic from last summer
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31424&d=1179809916
It will be a sad day if it indeed bites the dust.

[randy77zt]

summer of 1981 i got a summer job packing cantaloups in the shed in parker.spent most of my money in sundance.sunday afternoon wet t-shirt contest was always standing room only.good talent came in form socal and rumor was it was $500 to win-good money in those days.went down there next summer and the river flooded-sundance was closed in june-july while i was down there.another thing-for some unknown reason i think i remember something about drinking age lowered to 19 back then-i think every 19 year old from orange county was out there.made for lots of firm scenery.boatcop would have the info on this.back then the highway ran right in front.another rumor i heard was that the building was designed to be a casino but gambling wasnt legal then .seems like it would be a good place for live bands to play.

[Havasu Doug]

I remember the foam parties...they even had Pina Colada flavord foam. Rivertoys Jason was the foam shark. :D
Now this is going back to ancient history, but I seem to vaguely recall something like Jordy falling into the river from the Sundance dock on the same night RTJas earned his "Foam Shark" title. :D

[Boatcop]

Most accounts are correct.
It was RimRunners back in the early '70s. When I was a young River Rat, we stayed at Jolly Knight. In 1971 my brother and I were staying there during the summer, and he worked at RumRunners. After July 4th Weekend, the owner took all the receipts (cash) and split. Leaving employees and suppliers hanging. Probably left with a good 3/4 - 1 mil.
Jim Shubin eventually bought it and expanded it from a fairly small operation to pretty elaborate structure. In the early 80's in burnt down and they opened for a year in a big circus tent. It was then built in it's current form.
By the mid '90s Shubin was tired of running the place and sold the business (but kept title to the land, sticks and bricks) several times. 3 or 4 buyers defaulted and Jim recovered the place and kept it running till he could sell it again. Bacca was the last of them.
Jim then tried for a few years to sell it lock, stock and barrel, but had no takers, due to the sewage, sanitation problems and no one really willing to put of the cash.
He's in the process of getting it re-zoned for condos. The last hurdle is again the sewage issue, since the AZ Dept of environmental quality and a moratorium on new septic along the river and the condos would over-load the present septic configuration.
The plans to run the sewer up that far are in the works, and expected to happen in the next year or so.

[ChumpChange]

I have heard talk of some condos going in.... but you know how it is when people talk.
That's the truth. I've seen the plans. :D

[photo chick]

Wow this thread brought back memories...
I remember the peter meter and the wet t-shirt contests...
Anyone remember the owner would walk around with his two Dobermans? They even had a water tax to pick you up and take you back to your camp spot.....good times! :D

[Riverguy92345]

Had alot of good times there. Started going back in the early 70's.Does anyone remember the fire and when it was just a tent. Everyone use to walk home down the yellow lines.
Not many boats back then and NO personal watercraft. Everyone used a innertube and always stoped there. Have a few stories myself.
We still camp at Echo so i always look as we boat by. Going to be condo's
some day, seems a shame. But thats the river. Not like it use to be

[SCR INC]

Most accounts are correct.
It was RimRunners back in the early '70s. When I was a young River Rat, we stayed at Jolly Knight. In 1971 my brother and I were staying there during the summer, and he worked at RumRunners. After July 4th Weekend, the owner took all the receipts (cash) and split. Leaving employees and suppliers hanging. Probably left with a good 3/4 - 1 mil.
Jim Shubin eventually bought it and expanded it from a fairly small operation to pretty elaborate structure. In the early 80's in burnt down and they opened for a year in a big circus tent. It was then built in it's current form.
By the mid '90s Shubin was tired of running the place and sold the business (but kept title to the land, sticks and bricks) several times. 3 or 4 buyers defaulted and Jim recovered the place and kept it running till he could sell it again. Bacca was the last of them.
Jim then tried for a few years to sell it lock, stock and barrel, but had no takers, due to the sewage, sanitation problems and no one really willing to put of the cash.
He's in the process of getting it re-zoned for condos. The last hurdle is again the sewage issue, since the AZ Dept of environmental quality and a moratorium on new septic along the river and the condos would over-load the present septic configuration.
The plans to run the sewer up that far are in the works, and expected to happen in the next year or so.
Sounds like condos are coming soon... Kinda like what Dyer did @ sports Vally. I bet the strip was alot different in 1971... I bet alot of open header boats under 21' ran all day. I only have pics to relate to the good old day's.
Was a patrol boat on the water in those days... My dad use to pull up to Sundance in a blown alky cole Hydro and tear it up. they would put the girls on the deck a idle back to Redrock..

[Bense468]

Get Back To Work

[Mrs. casean]

I've had my puking experience at Sundance... oh memories :D I remember being a kid and the pontoon would pass by and try to get all the ladies in our group (all moms and teenagers) and try to get them on the boat for the wet t-shirt contests. Then driving by and it just being insainly packed on a weekend and thinking, I want to go there when I'm older! So funny what you want to do as a kid becuase you see adults having so much fun there, little did I know they were all hammered :D So I did and it was fun but I was still drunk from the daytime on the water and ended up puking in the ladies room. Then it closed down :( I don't know if they will ever do anything about it w/ the road closed now due to the falling rock. I hate passing it every weekend we're out there and see it just all boarded up. Good times are just memories now there.

[SCR INC]

Get Back To Work
Hey buddy... whats up!! I did not go to the river last weekend. I went to the rancho mirage house and kicked it by the pool and did not do shiat.. I miss the freak show!!! You pull the hottest chicks on the river

[Quest4Fun]

Gosh, I remember the days way back when...before the fire, the tent, the wet t-shirt contests. It seems I remember shortly after it was rebuilt being there and they probably shouldn't have been open yet because none of the plumbing worked and there was water/??? all over the floor and nobody seemed to care that it was kinda gross, we were just happy it was open. Back in the day, you only had to be 19 to drink in AZ. :D

[sleekcraft80]

We used to always stay at Ah Villa Park where alchohol, drugs and naked people were at:D
The music that was heard up and down the river in those days were Ted Nugent, Molly Hatchet.

[echo]

This thread what this site is about.

[boatnam2]

place was the shit back in the day,it rocked like no other. and you could write a book on the shiiit that went down there.

[KingCole]

I got my very first mixed drink there as a youngster in '76. It was a tequilla sunrise. Does anyone else remember seeing Social Distortion there in the early '90's?

[RiverDave]

place was the shit back in the day,it rocked like no other. and you could write a book on the shiiit that went down there.
And that pretty much sums it up right there.. It is by far my favorite spot on the river.. Over the years and owners it's gone down hill, but man if I hit the Lotto that place would be renovated and re-open for biz as quick as I could get the paperwork going.
Their names escape me now, but two guys from O.C. were running it 5 - 6 years ago, and I was there every weekend so I kinda got to know them. I took a full tour of that bar once and was absolutely blown away. 99.9% of the people only got to see the main bar, and for a brief stint maybe a portion of the upstairs. That place is a full fledge strip joint upstairs for those that don't know.. Stages, brass poles, seating the works. Behind the main bar towards the road there's restaraunt style booths for eating, all sorts of old river momento's from the 70's? 80's? etc..
I genuinely wish some baller would buy the place, and dress it up a bit and re-open. With RoadRunner sucking nowdayz, I think a "classy" version of the SunDance of ole would do better then alot of people think. Like a large scale version of Sports Valley. Good Food, good drinks kinda place.
RD

[beaverretriever]

This thread what this site is about.
Sweet. I am glad I started this thread. My wife and I love old buildings, ghost towns, and just checking out areas that most people never go. We literally drove around Parker checking out stuff for about 4 hrs. Cool little town.

[RiverDave]

Sweet. I am glad I started this thread. My wife and I love old buildings, ghost towns, and just checking out areas that most people never go. We literally drove around Parker checking out stuff for about 4 hrs. Cool little town.
There actually is a ghost town just outside of Parker that you can get too via flat dirt roads. There's lots of old mining equipment all around Parker that you can get too on quads / dune buggy etc.
RD

[Havasu1986]

Does anyone remember the Rock Palace. I started going to Parker in the early 80's until Jeanie Branson kicked us out of her trailor park because we didn't have a written notice from the owner of the trailor we were staying in. Hey now I remember it was Memorial weekend 1982. This will 25 years ago this weekend. Damm biotch. Wound up sleeping in a our van on what is now the golf course in the channel. I have been going to Havi ever since.:)

[Devilman]

Sweet. I am glad I started this thread. My wife and I love old buildings, ghost towns, and just checking out areas that most people never go. We literally drove around Parker checking out stuff for about 4 hrs. Cool little town.
Me too, I like reading about this kinda stuff. The kinda stuff you would never read in a brochure or something. Really enjoy threads like these. :cool:

[boatnam2]

Does anyone remember the Rock Palace. I started going to Parker in the early 80's until Jeanie Branson kicked us out of her trailor park because we didn't have a written notice from the owner of the trailor we were staying in. Hey now I remember it was Memorial weekend 1982. This will 25 years ago this weekend. Damm biotch. Wound up sleeping in a our van on what is now the golf course in the channel. I have been going to Havi ever since.:)
i do went and seen a band snowmen there,it was going off.they were a kiss look alike band...ahhhhhhh the good old days...

[KingCole]

Does anyone remember the Rock Palace. I started going to Parker in the early 80's until Jeanie Branson kicked us out of her trailor park because we didn't have a written notice from the owner of the trailor we were staying in. Hey now I remember it was Memorial weekend 1982. This will 25 years ago this weekend. Damm biotch. Wound up sleeping in a our van on what is now the golf course in the channel. I have been going to Havi ever since.:)
Rock Palace was pretty cool, and if I remember right it was pretty big too. Saw some cool bands there. I remember seeing my brother talk his way out of a night in jail there too. Ahhhh, those were the days...

[BrianB]

I remember being blown away my first time at sundance in the 80's
Big stereo hotties everywhere,sitting down at the bar and thinking
"This is my kinda paradise"
I've compared many a story with older guys at work,they bring in pictures from the 70's.Family drag days on the river and free love at the bar.
I just wished they had stayed on penicillin and not destroyed sport f--kin as we know it.
Good times

[beaverretriever]

There actually is a ghost town just outside of Parker that you can get too via flat dirt roads. There's lots of old mining equipment all around Parker that you can get too on quads / dune buggy etc.
RD
I will have to go and see it. Borders, Barns and Nobles carries some great maps of local areas. I need to pick one up for that part of AZ.

[riverratrob]

Does anyone remember the Rock Palace. I started going to Parker in the early 80's until Jeanie Branson kicked us out of her trailor park because we didn't have a written notice from the owner of the trailor we were staying in. Hey now I remember it was Memorial weekend 1982. This will 25 years ago this weekend. Damm biotch. Wound up sleeping in a our van on what is now the golf course in the channel. I have been going to Havi ever since.:)that crazy old lady is one mean bitch can't say I could ever get a smile out of her even if I was rubbing the right spot.I hear she has a poss buyer for her property gonna buil some custom homes on it,think I heard the price around 11 mill

[framer1]

I remember being blown away my first time at sundance in the 80's
Big stereo hotties everywhere,sitting down at the bar and thinking
"This is my kinda paradise"
I've compared many a story with older guys at work,they bring in pictures from the 70's.Family drag days on the river and free love at the bar.
I just wished they had stayed on penicillin and not destroyed sport f--kin as we know it.
Good times
Those really were the days, I would stay there for two weeks at a time just drinking and partying. We would clean off in the river every now and then. Got to love those old hippie days:D That free love thing was a great idea;)

[boatnam2]

I use to like the way the boats would line up in front of the bar...chugging up river like 3 deep...If you were in the front string of boats(closest to the dock) you had better had girls doing very nasty stuff are you were booed out of there.The boats doing all the nasty stuff would finally get past the bar and they would come around get in line and start all over again all day long no cops no sherrifs no crit no san bernadino cops so on and so on.Classic and it will never be like that again.

[Goathead666]

Floating boxing ring out front ring any bells, alway a sight watching the marines from 29 palms beat each other up in there. flatties drag racing out front of the rock wall in front of Buckskin at dusk. That echo of open headers against the rock was intoxicating. "Ski Naked at the River" memorabilia. Those were the days.

[Lavey5150]

A few years back, we were out at the strip for a bachelor party and we took it into our own hands to activate the mechanical bull in there, there was no one monitoring it, everything went great until our buddy busted his arm and they kicked us out......:D ......That place was alot of fun...............

[LAFD]

the sundance kicked ass. place was huge though and little boat parking which probly limited its money intake which in turn they had to shut down. had alot of blurry memories there they had the stripper stage up stairs and my cousins g/f and my g/f stripped up there for us. oh the memories. wish it was still open..

[MUDXPRT]

Rock Palace I also remember that place and even once doing the boxing thing.

[Windy]

I vaguely remember the two brothers who owned it. I cant remember their names, but I remember their dogs name was China.

[SummerBreeze]

I had my first beer at a bar and my first sexual pole dance. I think it has effected me from then on

[Parker Dreamin]

Darn.. I forgot it was a titty bar... i was in there once for that.
Speaking of titty bars in Parker.. I remember about 10-15 years ago there was a titty bar across the street from Circle K... that was pretty funny.

[Wheeler]

I vaguely remember the two brothers who owned it. I cant remember their names, but I remember their dogs name was China.
Kerri and Keith? Baca. they are twins. Slow in Havasu, should know more about them, he went to the same high school.

[mbrown2]

Great place back in the day....was just a kid in the 70/80's but we started to stay at Echo after we tired of staying at the Winner Cirle....dad and buds used to go across in the Southwind and shut it down each night, then head back over to the bar at Echo to get another hour of drinking in...
Remember as a kid watching someone jump off the larger rock just north of Sundance...ie: the one that hangs over the road....guy landed in 6' of water, and then up to his waist in sand...someone pulled him out but he died a couple days later...
Crazy days back then....flatty drags after Sundance would shut down at night...:)

[Windy]

Kerri and Keith? Baca. they are twins. Slow in Havasu, should know more about them, he went to the same high school.
Oh Sh^t...that's right. ;)

[jbtrailerjim]

I went there a few times in the early ninties. Man, that place was fun! Good times for sure.:cool: Wish I would have gone more often but I've always gone to Havi and making the treck down there and one of us having to stay sober to drive back sucked. Much easier to stummble back to the hotel room from Koko Mo's in Havi.

[squirt'nmyload]

some great stories in here :)

[coolchange]

Some of my craziest life memories revolve around that place.
Guy gets thrown out and climbs over the roof (corigated steel) and falls thru, bouncers come after him, he just gets up and starts dancin like he was there all the time! Gettin closed down by the Indian police cause some bikers are comin back to destroy the bar. Back inthe day you used to check your firearms at a little booth outside. Goin under the bar and tearin off a piece in the water. DJ not showin up and they couldn't get the sound workin so my bro and I Find a switch off or a cable unplugged and wind up DJ'n the rest of the night. Girl on a couch with her foot up a guys shorts on the otherside givin him a toe job. Ya the noobs lookin at the upside down beer and turnin it over and dumpin it everywhere. So many more. IMHO the place died after they put up the tent and started the tough guy competions and titty bar stuff.

[2Driver]

contest right after the Macho man contest. I made it to 2nd place in the Macho Man in 1986. Lucky for me the 3rd guy dropped out. :D
Trophy and $50 bucks, not bad for making an ass out of yourself. :D

[Boatcop]

Some of my craziest life memories revolve around that place.
Guy gets thrown out and climbs over the roof (corigated steel) and falls thru, bouncers come after him, he just gets up and starts dancin like he was there all the time! Gettin closed down by the Indian police cause some bikers are comin back to destroy the bar. Back inthe day you used to check your firearms at a little booth outside. Goin under the bar and tearin off a piece in the water. DJ not showin up and they couldn't get the sound workin so my bro and I Find a switch off or a cable unplugged and wind up DJ'n the rest of the night. Girl on a couch with her foot up a guys shorts on the otherside givin him a toe job. Ya the noobs lookin at the upside down beer and turnin it over and dumpin it everywhere. So many more. IMHO the place died after they put up the tent and started the tough guy competions and titty bar stuff.
Indian Police don't have and never had anything to do with Sundance. It's 8 miles off the Reservation.

[life's a river]

Does anybody know what happened to Casey the "One Man Band"? He used to play at Riverlodge and Benders. Had some great times singing along with him to some old Eagles tunes.

[Rexone]

Does anyone remember the Rock Palace.:)
Yep. Remember before it was there too. I started hittin the river around the mid 60's. :eek:
Used to stay at the Californian across from Buckskin (when Buckskin was new) alot in cabanas right on the water. Hop in the boats at 00am and make a few runs. No one disliked the noise back then. Those were the days. :)

[Rexone]

flatties drag racing out front of the rock wall in front of Buckskin at dusk. That echo of open headers against the rock was intoxicating.
I think I have some pics of me doing that somewhere I need to find for this thread. :D
The sound of the zoomies off that cliff was definately one of a kind. And the cliff north of river lodge too across from the little rock bar. We used to run the flatties pretty much all day, you could find flat water somewhere. Skied alot there then too. And floated. And drank. And http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/thumbs/732huh.gif
The river has definately changed a bunch. And imo not for the better. The onslaught of PWC's piloted by idiots was the start of the decline of the good ol days. :(

[KeepsTheBeerAfloat]

WOW. What a post. Let me see if I can help you a little more with what I know.
Back in the early 90's when I started going to Parker, there was a little leather-skinned perv named Nick with a rough looking mullet that used to go around on the pontoon boat, shouting the "hubba hubba" and letting everybody know about the wet t shirt contests, etc. Between his skinny ass being drunk every time I saw him and him running the Peter Meter (can still picture his devlish perverse smile now), I can't quit smiling when I think about that place!! Think his brother's name was Jim.
As was my understanding, they owned the note on the place for a long long time, and in fact, they ran the joint in it's heyday.
I bartended there quite a few of the big weekends for a few years. Yes, it was great, loads of booze, girls making out, boob shots for free shots (completely authorized by the bar manager Earl), brawls (at one point, they were bringing up teams of off duty marines to work the security), kick ass bands that they brought up from Orange County all the time, and great nightlife...lots of fun on any weekend.
I saw a couple taking care of business on their 19 footer at the back edge of the dock, just barely out of sight of most of the bar, when a party cat rolled by and washed the boat. Tell me that doesn't suck, the dude jumped up and started bailing water while his boat was sinking while it was still tied to the dock. That oughta make you shrivel up!!
About '97, a couple named Nick and Penny bought the business and changed it to the Showdown Saloon. They couldn't run the place to save their lives, though they sure tried. They kept up with the whole idea of the wet t shirt contests, in fact, little perv Nick (pretty sure that was his name) was still floating around on the pontoon and hosting the contest.
Anyway, we worked there a couple of times that year on Memorial and 4th weekends. When we drove out to work Labor Day (we didn't need to call ahead because we were always on their roster), we arrived to find out the joint had been closed.
Apparently there was a busted pipe coming out of the kitchen that was dropping junk into the water.
They couldn't get it fixed in time to get the health department to let them re-open for the weekend, so needless to say, we sat with dick in hand not having anything to do for the weekend. No boat, and none of the chit we would have brought if we were partying instead of working...oh well.
So we nixed working there again. The next year, or shortly after, I heard from some friends of mine that the Bacchus (think that's the name...maybe Barberi) brothers, (mentioned earlier in this post) bought it out (remembering they still didn't own the note) and tried again. I know the name as they are only a couple miles from me, but don't know them. I believe I heard they owned a nudie bar too around the area,
Anyway, as I understand, they did okay with it a couple of years, but never really got the thing going the right direction.
And so it goes...the Sundance Saloon goes off into the sunset.

[ParkerRat]

Man does this post bring back memories. How many times did I rde that pontoon boat to Sundance in the afternoon only to stand in knee deep water (so many people on the dock it was under water) at 1:00am fighting to get back on the last boat to my campground? Those were the good ole days! I even passed out on the pontoon in thne middle of the afternoon and Smily just woke me up after the last stop and asked me where I needed to be. I owe some of the best river memories of my life to that place. The only regret I have is that I was always too drunk to remember the camera. I think we need a new post dedicated to any pictures anyone can dig up of Sundance in it's hayday. I would sure love to see some of them. Anyone?

[OCMerrill]

Boy beaverretriever did you get an education or what?:D :D
After reading all this, now I miss the freaking place.
***boat Group Buy?
As busy as Roadrunner gets and Fox's to for that matter I would think now would be the time?

[BOBALOO]

I remember we went to the Sundance about 4 years ago on Memorial and had a blast. Well I dont realllly remember but the pictures showed us having fun:D
They had just re-opened that prior weekend or something and even RD was surprised. Had an AWESOME summer in Parker and need to go back soon.

[boatnam2]

I will never forget we were camping at ah villa(LA PAZ) 1978,16 years old and the sundance drove by and picked us up the little pervert guy that hopped around like a bunny during the wet-t-shirt contest was driving(thought he was the owner at one time)so he tells us we need to get into the macho man dealio we said ok jumped on the boat was loaded with topless chicks and a few cases of boones farm..man what a day.the guy back door'ed us since we were under age never forget that day,we didnt even have a boat.

[Ivan Dan]

I believe the Bacca family still owns it. The Bacca brothers went to El Dorado HS in Placentia Ca..
Really????? How old were they?

[Ivan Dan]

WOW. What a post. Let me see if I can help you a little more with what I know.
Back in the early 90's when I started going to Parker, there was a little leather-skinned perv named Nick with a rough looking mullet that used to go around on the pontoon boat, shouting the "hubba hubba" and letting everybody know about the wet t shirt contests, etc. Between his skinny ass being drunk every time I saw him and him running the Peter Meter (can still picture his devlish perverse smile now), I can't quit smiling when I think about that place!! Think his brother's name was Jim.
As was my understanding, they owned the note on the place for a long long time, and in fact, they ran the joint in it's heyday.
I bartended there quite a few of the big weekends for a few years. Yes, it was great, loads of booze, girls making out, boob shots for free shots (completely authorized by the bar manager Earl), brawls (at one point, they were bringing up teams of off duty marines to work the security), kick ass bands that they brought up from Orange County all the time, and great nightlife...lots of fun on any weekend.
I saw a couple taking care of business on their 19 footer at the back edge of the dock, just barely out of sight of most of the bar, when a party cat rolled by and washed the boat. Tell me that doesn't suck, the dude jumped up and started bailing water while his boat was sinking while it was still tied to the dock. That oughta make you shrivel up!!
About '97, a couple named Nick and Penny bought the business and changed it to the Showdown Saloon. They couldn't run the place to save their lives, though they sure tried. They kept up with the whole idea of the wet t shirt contests, in fact, little perv Nick (pretty sure that was his name) was still floating around on the pontoon and hosting the contest.
Anyway, we worked there a couple of times that year on Memorial and 4th weekends. When we drove out to work Labor Day (we didn't need to call ahead because we were always on their roster), we arrived to find out the joint had been closed.
Apparently there was a busted pipe coming out of the kitchen that was dropping junk into the water.
They couldn't get it fixed in time to get the health department to let them re-open for the weekend, so needless to say, we sat with dick in hand not having anything to do for the weekend. No boat, and none of the chit we would have brought if we were partying instead of working...oh well.
So we nixed working there again. The next year, or shortly after, I heard from some friends of mine that the Bacchus (think that's the name...maybe Barberi) brothers, (mentioned earlier in this post) bought it out (remembering they still didn't own the note) and tried again. I know the name as they are only a couple miles from me, but don't know them. I believe I heard they owned a nudie bar too around the area,
Anyway, as I understand, they did okay with it a couple of years, but never really got the thing going the right direction.
And so it goes...the Sundance Saloon goes off into the sunset.
So do you happen to know Johnny Oros?

[HM]

I just wished they had stayed on penicillin and not destroyed sport f--kin as we know it.
The only thing you have sport f-cked is a pair of Carter Carbs. Get outa here you swinger wanna be!!! Your idea of a sport f-ck involves 5 dates and meeting the parents!!!
Bring it.:devil: :D

[KeepsTheBeerAfloat]

So do you happen to know Johnny Oros?
Sorry, just got back to this post cuz the PC had taken a dump for a couple weeks and had to get a new one. Any way, no, I don't know Johnny Oros. A guy named Dave Priyudo that I worked with at Casey's in Orange (I miss that place) hooked my buddy and I up. I only knew Steve and Earl, and then Nick and Penny (think that was the names). I only came in on the big weekends and to be honest, I didn't take the time to get to know anybody other than people that were staying over at Fox's like we were.
I worked out there for about 3 1/2 years worth of the big weekends...drive up on a Thursday, meet with the bosses for the week, go get blitzed, then somehow manage to stay sober the rest of the weekend because we were working, which kinda sucked, but it was still fun.

[all charged up]

I was talking to a guy at Pleasent that said he had a horrible story about that place. Story goes he bought it last year and spent some coin to fix things up a bit. Hired some talent for waitresses and a bartender. Opening time the Sheriff shows up with the real owner and kicks em all of the property. I guess the guy he bought it from was a family member of the real owner and had no rights to the place. Don't know if its true or not.:idea:

[dunaholic]

I got to see my first real life set of boobies there. I was to young to go into the bar, but the boat parade by the docks was good enough for this young teenager.

[3 daytona`s]

Sorry, just got back to this post cuz the PC had taken a dump for a couple weeks and had to get a new one. Any way, no, I don't know Johnny Oros. A guy named Dave Priyudo that I worked with at Casey's in Orange (I miss that place) hooked my buddy and I up. I only knew Steve and Earl, and then Nick and Penny (think that was the names). I only came in on the big weekends and to be honest, I didn't take the time to get to know anybody other than people that were staying over at Fox's like we were.
I worked out there for about 3 1/2 years worth of the big weekends...drive up on a Thursday, meet with the bosses for the week, go get blitzed, then somehow manage to stay sober the rest of the weekend because we were working, which kinda sucked, but it was still fun.
What would it take to get going again?

[TAF]

How about wet t-shirt contests and the "peter meter" guy with the leather skin? Upside down beers, fights, drunk young girls....good times, good times:D
I love taking all the women from our camp there and then guys would buy them all 2 for ones and pass too many extras my way:) :sqeyes: :eek: Yikes! I suppose I was the designated Drinker:idea: I once had all the seat cushions fly out of my jet boat as I raced by Sundance on my way back to pick up a couple stragglers :sqeyes: I once had to drive my flattie back to camp in d.rkn..s which piss.d Sis off. She was always watching out for me. Photo Chic and her girlfriends used to hang out there so re-check all yer river photos from 1985 - '95 and you might spot her:sqeyes:

[beaverretriever]

Wow, there has been some pretty enjoyable reading on this thread.
It would be sooooo fricken cool to get this place bumping again. :)

[KeepsTheBeerAfloat]

What would it take to get going again?
To be honest, I couldn't tell you. It was easy enough to set up and move each weekend. Load the booze and the beers and the soda...etc. The cooks worked upstairs one or two of the times I was there, but they weren't known for food. I think the big deal is the brothers that still own it (Nick and Jim). I don't think the Baccha brothers ever truly owned it, nor did Gene and Penny, or Nick and Penny (Can't remember their names for sure). Regardless, I think there's so many shenanigans going on with the land and stuff that it's not really worth the effort. Because of the way it's been managed and f**ked with so many times, the po po don't like it, and they're always all over the place.
Hell of a lot of fun when it was going on. All I can say is that the Sundance is what made the river "the river" to me. Ah well.

[3 daytona`s]

To be honest, I couldn't tell you. It was easy enough to set up and move each weekend. Load the booze and the beers and the soda...etc. The cooks worked upstairs one or two of the times I was there, but they weren't known for food. I think the big deal is the brothers that still own it (Nick and Jim). I don't think the Baccha brothers ever truly owned it, nor did Gene and Penny, or Nick and Penny (Can't remember their names for sure). Regardless, I think there's so many shenanigans going on with the land and stuff that it's not really worth the effort. Because of the way it's been managed and f**ked with so many times, the po po don't like it, and they're always all over the place.
Hell of a lot of fun when it was going on. All I can say is that the Sundance is what made the river "the river" to me. Ah well.
I would love to get a couple of people interested and if clean title and all. ,get a going again.Please keep me in mind I have talked via PM about it and have some interest just do not know who to talk to and how to approach. I believe after reading what is on here would be a deal so keep informed if have any info. Thanks

[RiverToysJas]

I remember the foam parties...they even had Pina Colada flavord foam. Rivertoys Jason was the foam shark. :D
I still like to fill my shower with Mr Bubble and remember the good times... :D ..Who was that guy spinning his shorts over his head anyway...remember that freak? :eek:
RTJas :D

[Boatcop]

I would love to get a couple of people interested and if clean title and all. ,get a going again.Please keep me in mind I have talked via PM about it and have some interest just do not know who to talk to and how to approach. I believe after reading what is on here would be a deal so keep informed if have any info. Thanks
The owner (Jim Shubin) has no interest in selling the place as a bar again. He's done that several times over and got screwed each time. It's being re-zoned high density residential for condos. All that's pendng is the sewer being run up into that area.
He can get 10 times the return by building and selling condos than he can by selling it it it's present form and condition.

[Rvr Swpr]

That sounds about right.

[24ROD]

Crazy days back then....flatty drags after Sundance would shut down at night...:)
I thought no one saw us:D

[socalmoney]

Ken Burns needs to a documentary on this place. We need to get some footage before it is torn down. What a great thread. Thanks for sharing you guys.

[TCHB]

We were on the strip for many years and enjoyed the nights sitting out on the dock tables and other areas. It was a great place for many years.
Thats all Parker Strip needs is more homes on the water.

[RiverToysJas]

I thought no one saw us:D
They didn't.....but they sure heard it!!! ;)
RTJas :D

[socalmoney]

AGENDA
LA PAZ COUNTY
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting / Public Hearing
February 2, 2005 – 2:00 p.m.
Board of Supervisor’s Meeting Room
1108 Joshua Avenue, Parker, Arizona 85344
The La Paz County Planning and Zoning Commission will meet at 2:00 p.m. on Wednesday, February 2, 2004, in the Board of Supervisor’s meeting room at 1108 Joshua Avenue, Parker, Arizona to consider the following:
Docket No. Z2005-02 – SRC Sundance LLC, Steve and Lisa Callahan – APN: 310-33-001
The applicant is requesting to rezone the property (.89 acres) from C-2 (General Commercial) Zoning District to R-3 (High Density Residential) Zoning District to construct condominium units. The property is located at 5920 Riverside Dr., Parker, AZ 85344. It is further described as being in Section 31, Township 11 North, Range 18 West of the Gila and Salt River Meridian, La Paz County.
http://www.co.la-paz.az.us/meetings/pz/02-02-05rm_agenda.pdf

[teahag]

Though it bums me out to admit that I am 50 years old, I am able to say that it was nice being able to experience the Sundance in its heyday.
The pontoon boat cruising up and down the river drumming up girls for the wet t-shirt contest, the foam parties, the great live bands, the dancing, the dock full of people outside, the 19 year old drinking age, and everything else that has been mentioned. It was over the top for it's time, but would probably not be the same today. Back then it was just good fun. This is a good thread, brings back a lot of memories for the die hard river rats who have reached middle age. The whole Parker strip was much simpler then.

[HotRod82]

Though it bums me out to admit that I am 50 years old, I am able to say that it was nice being able to experience the Sundance in its heyday.
The pontoon boat cruising up and down the river drumming up girls for the wet t-shirt contest, the foam parties, the great live bands, the dancing, the dock full of people outside, the 19 year old drinking age, and everything else that has been mentioned. It was over the top for it's time, but would probably not be the same today. Back then it was just good fun. This is a good thread, brings back a lot of memories for the die hard river rats who have reached middle age. The whole Parker strip was much simpler then.
More condos....great. you are exactly right teahag, the entire river scene is only a shadow of what it used to be. I'm 38 and grew up at Havasu, Parker, and the yuma area. In a nutshell, what really ruined the river was cheap boat financing!! Back in the day, not everyone and their brother could run down and buy a boat for zero down. The result has been severe overcrowding, then of course the new laws, followed by the LEO's to enforce it all. Seeing Sundance go away is another nail in the coffin. Depressing.

[socalmoney]

We really need a "retrospective" thread with photos and links to video. I would be happy to help anyone digitize their old photos or tapes of Parker in the heyday. Many people on this thread have mentioned they have photos. I would be willing to scan color correct and fix anything you have just to get them on the board. PM me if interested.

[skyskier]

Great place back in the day....was just a kid in the 70/80's but we started to stay at Echo after we tired of staying at the Winner Cirle....dad and buds used to go across in the Southwind and shut it down each night, then head back over to the bar at Echo to get another hour of drinking in...
Remember as a kid watching someone jump off the larger rock just north of Sundance...ie: the one that hangs over the road....guy landed in 6' of water, and then up to his waist in sand...someone pulled him out but he died a couple days later...
Crazy days back then....flatty drags after Sundance would shut down at night...:)
The guy that jumped IS Wally Madager, Paramount HS, class of 1965. He didn't die:) We were at the river memorial weekend 1967, two of our friends, Lana Pearson & Chris Hernandez were killed in a car wreck on the California side the night before. Wally & Lana were boyfriend/girlfriend. Wally was DRUNK & obviously on a HUGE downer, said he climbed up to the top of the rock and was gonna end it all, but started thinking about it and decided at the last minute not to, but it was too late. Said as he was swaying back & forth he knew he was going and jumped as far out as he could to clear the road. We loaded him up in the back of Henry Parrell's hemi-cuda and drove him to Needles hospital. They checked him out, no broken bones, just a bruised body from head to toe:eek: Last time I saw Wally was in Kona Harbor in 1988. He was running a charter Island boat, a 3 masted schooner. Back then the Sundance was called " The Island A Go Go"

[mbrown2]

The guy that jumped IS Wally Madager, Paramount HS, class of 1965. He didn't die:) We were at the river memorial weekend 1967, two of our friends, Lana Pearson & Chris Hernandez were killed in a car wreck on the California side the night before. Wally & Lana were boyfriend/girlfriend. Wally was DRUNK & obviously on a HUGE downer, said he climbed up to the top of the rock and was gonna end it all, but started thinking about it and decided at the last minute not to, but it was too late. Said as he was swaying back & forth he knew he was going and jumped as far out as he could to clear the road. We loaded him up in the back of Henry Parrell's hemi-cuda and drove him to Needles hospital. They checked him out, no broken bones, just a bruised body from head to toe:eek: Last time I saw Wally was in Kona Harbor in 1988. He was running a charter Island boat, a 3 masted schooner. Back then the Sundance was called " The Island A Go Go"
This was in around 77-79 this occurred...might not have been the same guy..

[2Driver]

I have home video of the place in massive form. Perhaps one of the biggest weekends. All the patios packed and a river of boats gunnel to gunnel trying to idle in the current in front of the bar as the boobies appeared and Van Halen cranked.
Geez they were good times.;) I think I still have my Macho man trophy.

[old rigger]

The guy that jumped IS Wally Madager, Paramount HS, class of 1965. He didn't die:) We were at the river memorial weekend 1967, two of our friends, Lana Pearson & Chris Hernandez were killed in a car wreck on the California side the night before. Wally & Lana were boyfriend/girlfriend. Wally was DRUNK & obviously on a HUGE downer, said he climbed up to the top of the rock and was gonna end it all, but started thinking about it and decided at the last minute not to, but it was too late. Said as he was swaying back & forth he knew he was going and jumped as far out as he could to clear the road. We loaded him up in the back of Henry Parrell's hemi-cuda and drove him to Needles hospital. They checked him out, no broken bones, just a bruised body from head to toe:eek: Last time I saw Wally was in Kona Harbor in 1988. He was running a charter Island boat, a 3 masted schooner. Back then the Sundance was called " The Island A Go Go"
I believe Billy Cissell was there too the day Wally jumped. Wallys older brother brother Bill was good friend of my parents...original graduating class of Paramount High. :)

[socalmoney]

I have home video of the place in massive form. Perhaps one of the biggest weekends. All the patios packed and a river of boats gunnel to gunnel trying to idle in the current in front of the bar as the boobies appeared and Van Halen cranked.
Geez they were good times.;) I think I still have my Macho man trophy.
Lets get this captured so it can be shared!!! I can help if you need it.

[old rigger]

Most accounts are correct.
It was RimRunners back in the early '70s. When I was a young River Rat, we stayed at Jolly Knight. In 1971 my brother and I were staying there during the summer, and he worked at RumRunners. After July 4th Weekend, the owner took all the receipts (cash) and split. Leaving employees and suppliers hanging. Probably left with a good 3/4 - 1 mil.
Jim Shubin eventually bought it and expanded it from a fairly small operation to pretty elaborate structure. In the early 80's in burnt down and they opened for a year in a big circus tent. It was then built in it's current form.
By the mid '90s Shubin was tired of running the place and sold the business (but kept title to the land, sticks and bricks) several times. 3 or 4 buyers defaulted and Jim recovered the place and kept it running till he could sell it again. Bacca was the last of them.
Jim then tried for a few years to sell it lock, stock and barrel, but had no takers, due to the sewage, sanitation problems and no one really willing to put of the cash.
He's in the process of getting it re-zoned for condos. The last hurdle is again the sewage issue, since the AZ Dept of environmental quality and a moratorium on new septic along the river and the condos would over-load the present septic configuration.
The plans to run the sewer up that far are in the works, and expected to happen in the next year or so.
Boatcop,
first time I went in sundance (rimrunners) was 1971 and I was 15 years old. My buddy and I were running up river in his dads tahiti so we decided we'd stop at the dock and check it out. We made it about 10 feet in the door, long enough to see a guy and girl going at it on the bar and a big guy grabbed us by the necks and showed us back to the dock. Told us to come back when we were of age which at that time was 19 in Az. We did. Often.
In the mid to late 70's they had a little booth out on the street side. Lot's of bikers hanging out there then, and they'd make them check their weapon and hang it on the back wall of the booth and give the guy a ticket so he could get his knife or whatever on the way out.
Down by our place, which was about 3/4 of a mile up from Badenochs on the AZ side, there use to be a bar on the water called 'Hulls Hut'. It was cool. Very tiki themed. Bartender had a pet racoon that roamed the bar. We'd go there as kids, this was in the late 60's, and the bartender would give us 25 cents for every dead horse fly that we brought him. For years the foundation was still there, had a little cut out cove behind it for the flatbottoms to park.:)