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riverroyal
05-22-2007, 07:23 PM
in my gang box.Over the weekend on my job site,which has about 300 mexicans and 30 white guys,our gang box was pissed in,there a small opening in the side,enough room for ...welll you know.I didnt make a big deal over it monday,laying low,building evidence.Then today the 3 of them were taunting my 2 apprentices in spanish.That was it,I snapped.I had the general super get the drywall foremans and we confronted them through a translater.They denied of coarse.So we threatened to pull off the job call osha and INS.They were asked to leave.BUT,they waited until my apprentices were about to go home ,possibly to kick there asses.So I offered the super to have them removed again,or cops called.They were escorted off the site.........I hate construction anymore

MRS FLYIN VEE
05-22-2007, 07:26 PM
:jawdrop: I hate when they use the bathroom to take there after lunch constitution and they wipe their ass and put the toilet paper on the fricken floor or in the trash.. Don't they get that we have sewers not holes.. :rolleyes:

Xlration Marine
05-22-2007, 07:27 PM
Yea boy, your not kidding. It suck's,mexicans build the mexican way. Water everthing down so it will fall apart, just like mexico.

phebus
05-22-2007, 07:30 PM
They were just marking their territory. California is their's again. Bitch. :D

XtrmWakeborder
05-22-2007, 07:31 PM
Don't hire beaners in the first place.....

Trailer Park Casanova
05-22-2007, 07:35 PM
Larwin homes built a very nice tract in Valencia about 25 years ago.
Everyone moved into their nice homes, and when winter came, everyone started up their heat.
A horrible smell drove the homeowners outta their houses.
The workers were pissing in the ductwork during construction, and a lot of it ran down to the fire box's for even a more deluxe hot burning piss putrid odor.
The company couldn't find anyone to fix the problem, the orig contractor left the state.
I took a few on to see what I could do. The Pres of Larwin at the time was a childhood friend and was in a big jam.
The homes interiors had to be ripped apart, all the ducts and furnaces and A coils removed and replaced.
A sad pathetic thing, felt bad for all the families.
I ended up doing about 75% of the project.
Had a legal contract absolving me of any residual liability before I'd touch anything.
A really sorry tale for sure.

Blown 472
05-22-2007, 07:37 PM
You hire illigals?

halfhers
05-22-2007, 07:39 PM
Yea boy, your not kidding. It suck's,mexicans build the mexican way. Water everthing down so it will fall apart, just like mexico.
not all mexicans act like that, just the stupid ones. just remember they will work for less and many more hrs than the rest of us. out of 300 you had to fired 3 that's good. i'm not mexican, but i hate when they are put down like this. your house and many other were bulit by mexicans...

YeLLowBoaT
05-22-2007, 07:40 PM
i'd be going after that contractor...1st call would be INS, 2nd would be the IRS, 3rd would be FTB and the 4th would be the board... I would pull no punchs. Full on I'm going to make sure you never work in CA again.
edit, yes I know I am a jack ass, but shit like that is way over the line... messing with another mans tools( read that as livilyhood) is wrong on so many levels its not even funny. I don't care if the contractor did not do it, he hired them...

sleekcraft78
05-22-2007, 07:44 PM
:jawdrop: I hate when they use the bathroom to take there after lunch constitution and they wipe their ass and put the toilet paper on the fricken floor or in the trash.. Don't they get that we have sewers not holes.. :rolleyes:
Hol shat they do that at my work too. Sick fokers. I don't understand why they can flush a urinal 40 time while taking a piss but they can't flush toilet paper.

riverroyal
05-22-2007, 07:47 PM
not all mexicans act like that, just the stupid ones. just remember they will work for less and many more hrs than the rest of us. out of 300 you had to fired 3 that's good. i'm not mexican, but i hate when they are put down like this. your house and many other were bulit by mexicans...
with it.They were just stupid.There are great mexican tradesmen,just not these 3.Did I mention the frontBC license plates?

JB in so cal
05-22-2007, 07:49 PM
Are you working in TJ, now ;) How about having some outhouses?:idea:

YeLLowBoaT
05-22-2007, 07:50 PM
Hol shat they do that at my work too. Sick fokers. I don't understand why they can flush a urinal 40 time while taking a piss but they can't flush toilet paper.
alot of places in this country and in mexico you can't flush toilet paper... it has to to with the septic system.

hoolign
05-22-2007, 07:50 PM
with it.They were just stupid.There are great mexican tradesmen,just not these 3.Did I mention the frontBC license plates?
No ..Not British Columbia?? :eek:

riverroyal
05-22-2007, 07:51 PM
i'd be going after that contractor...1st call would be INS, 2nd would be the IRS, 3rd would be FTB and the 4th would be the board... I would pull no punchs. Full on I'm going to make sure you never work in CA again.
edit, yes I know I am a jack ass, but shit like that is way over the line... messing with another mans tools( read that as livilyhood) is wrong on so many levels its not even funny. I don't care if the contractor did not do it, he hired them...
tools bags is the absolute lowest act Ive ever seen.MY guys opened the box,and nearly killed everyone.Now 1 of my guys will be on another site for a week or 2.They actually approached him and tried to get him to follow them into the area where it happened to make a "REPORT",which means kick his ass

riverroyal
05-22-2007, 07:52 PM
No ..Not British Columbia?? :eek:
fricken canadians eh

Xlration Marine
05-22-2007, 07:52 PM
not all mexicans act like that, just the stupid ones. just remember they will work for less and many more hrs than the rest of us. out of 300 you had to fired 3 that's good. i'm not mexican, but i hate when they are put down like this. your house and many other were bulit by mexicans...
Dude watch them, they do chitty work. Concrete poured like pea soup. 5 gallons of paint 10 gallons of water. Don't try to clean a wall or you will see the wall board. They do rotten work, cut corners and don't give a damb. Herd a guy at the depot saying while he was painting the texture and tape was coming off the walls. I've seen them take wall mud and add a bunch of water to it. They do it in a 50 gallon trash can, mix it just like they do the paint. They build shit.

riverroyal
05-22-2007, 07:53 PM
Are you working in TJ, now ;) How about having some outhouses?:idea:
picture tommorrow.

hoolign
05-22-2007, 07:53 PM
fricken canadians eh
Those arent Mexicans then..they are sun bleached Packies! :idea:

MBlaster
05-22-2007, 07:58 PM
Don't worry. The govenment will soon give them all citizenship then they will qualify for medicaid, SSI, disability, housing, welfare, foodstamps. Working will then be an option as they will be too busy focking, having free babies and arranging for their familys to come to the USA to ride the gravy train.
God Bless America.

QuickJet
05-22-2007, 08:02 PM
I own a finishing trim company and I flat out refuse to hire Mexicans. Live and learn. Now you just have to figure out how to get rid of the other 297.

halfhers
05-22-2007, 08:07 PM
Dude watch them, they do chitty work. Concrete poured like pea soup. 5 gallons of paint 10 gallons of water. Don't try to clean a wall or you will see the wall board. They do rotten work, cut corners and don't give a damb. Herd a guy at the depot saying while he was painting the texture and tape was coming off the walls. I've seen them take wall mud and add a bunch of water to it. They do it in a 50 gallon trash can, mix it just like they do the paint. They build shit.
you may be right, i guess you pay what you get for. it's just a sore subject to me. whenever they do work i'm on them to make sure it's going to last. sorry if i came out strong. we should talk about boats what this form is all about.

atomickitn
05-22-2007, 08:14 PM
im sorry but the only mexis i will hire is for labor, thats it and then i work them until they are dead, i make mine dig by hand and move sand and gravel with a wheel barrow ......no fooking machines ...i tell them that they broke down, and because i had to hire them i dont have the money to fix it ...soo get to work mule's:)

vee-driven
05-22-2007, 08:14 PM
not all mexicans act like that, just the stupid ones.:confused: sounds like we got us a controdiction.

YeLLowBoaT
05-22-2007, 08:16 PM
tools bags is the absolute lowest act Ive ever seen.MY guys opened the box,and nearly killed everyone.Now 1 of my guys will be on another site for a week or 2.They actually approached him and tried to get him to follow them into the area where it happened to make a "REPORT",which means kick his ass
ok, now not only would I go after the contractor for hiring illegals and other shit... I would also SUE him for the loss of your employee for 2 weeks as well as make him replace every tool that was damage. Time to stick the fork in him and twist.
I'm pretty ez going about alot of things, but when something like this costs me money, I want some ones head.
BTW you now have a very good bargining chip with the super...I would use it right now to get that contractor booted from the site.

zudnic
05-22-2007, 08:33 PM
No ..Not British Columbia?? :eek:
My Dad works in Vancouver, it would'nt surprise me!!!! All those lazy dope smokers and all... :D

BEER&WATER
05-22-2007, 08:39 PM
is it time to play cowboys & mexicans???

SHAKE-YO-AZZ
05-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Don't hire beaners in the first place.....
WTF

Misogynist
05-22-2007, 09:44 PM
Si... se puede......... my azz they can........ Their ilk should be renamed "Mexicants"...... because they can't do anything correctly.

RT21
05-22-2007, 11:05 PM
They are just working jobs that Americans won't :rolleyes:

Wheeler
05-23-2007, 04:20 AM
in my gang box.Over the weekend on my job site,which has about 300 mexicans and 30 white guys,our gang box was pissed in,there a small opening in the side,enough room for ...welll you know.I didnt make a big deal over it monday,laying low,building evidence.Then today the 3 of them were taunting my 2 apprentices in spanish.That was it,I snapped.I had the general super get the drywall foremans and we confronted them through a translater.They denied of coarse.So we threatened to pull off the job call osha and INS.They were asked to leave.BUT,they waited until my apprentices were about to go home ,possibly to kick there asses.So I offered the super to have them removed again,or cops called.They were escorted off the site.........I hate construction anymore
What do you think happens, while they are picking our food?

shueman
05-23-2007, 04:36 AM
not all mexicans act like that, just the stupid ones. just remember they will work for less and many more hrs than the rest of us. out of 300 you had to fired 3 that's good. i'm not mexican, but i hate when they are put down like this. your house and many other were bulit by mexicans...
So were your boats...:D

cave
05-23-2007, 04:36 AM
That's the mentality of these Mexicants (Per Misogynist:D) They hate us for who we are. Their jealous of what we earned. So this is what they do.
I've sen the change in construction from the early 80's to now. Contractors havent lowered the price for hiring these guys. They simpley lined thier pockets. So this crap about hiring them to save us money is Bull Sh!t.
If your a contractor and hire these Mexicants your a piece a sh!t. Not intendend for you riverroyal but the contractor who hired them.

Wheeler
05-23-2007, 04:40 AM
is it time to play cowboys & mexicans???
Starting to look this way. Or we could leave it for the children to manage.

Wheeler
05-23-2007, 05:41 AM
They are just working jobs that Americans won't :rolleyes:
If the wages fit the job, I would go back to work, as a drywall finisher.

Wheeler
05-23-2007, 06:00 AM
Bring it, don't sing it. I'd hand you your ass in a hat.
I do not understand, where you are going with this.

hoolign
05-23-2007, 06:12 AM
I do not understand, where you are going with this.
I think SWB is upset about the "Cowboys and Mexicans" idea. :D
Like old joke.
Three guys sitting at bus station
1-Indian
1-Cowboy
1-Mexican
Indian said " Once we were many... now we are few"
Mexican said "Once we were few ..now we are many"
Cowboy said : That's cause we aint played Cowboys and Mexicans yet"
:D

TAF
05-23-2007, 06:14 AM
Don't hire beaners in the first place.....
You get what you pay for:idea:

Wheeler
05-23-2007, 06:26 AM
I think SWB is upset about the "Cowboys and Mexicans" idea. :D
Like old joke.
Three guys sitting at bus station
1-Indian
1-Cowboy
1-Mexican
Indian said " Once we were many... now we are few"
Mexican said "Once we were few ..now we are many"
Cowboy said : That's cause we aint played Cowboys and Mexicans yet"
:D
This situation (illegal immigration) needs to be handled, before it comes to vigilante justice.

atomickitn
05-23-2007, 06:32 AM
That's the mentality of these Mexicants (Per Misogynist:D) They hate us for who we are. Their jealous of what we earned. So this is what they do.
I've sen the change in construction from the early 80's to now. Contractors havent lowered the price for hiring these guys. They simpley lined thier pockets. So this crap about hiring them to save us money is Bull Sh!t.
If your a contractor and hire these Mexicants your a piece a sh!t. Not intendend for you riverroyal but the contractor who hired them.
i tend to differ with you since you dont know s**t about the industry.....the reason we havent lowered our price is because the price for materials have gone soo high that most have had to hire people for less money just to pay their bills, most small contractors, are just getting by, and with it soo easy for any dip shit to get their cont lic ,and nobody to hold them liable for their crappy work most of the good contractors have had to lower their bids just to get work ......soo you can take your foot out of your mouth any time:)

HavaSkank
05-23-2007, 06:38 AM
I saw "gang box" and assumed this was a porn thread. My bad. Carry on.

sleekcraft78
05-23-2007, 06:42 AM
alot of places in this country and in mexico you can't flush toilet paper... it has to to with the septic system.
I realize that. But where we are You can so do it. Don't they also have someone come in and clean up the paper after they are done?

2Driver
05-23-2007, 07:59 AM
I realize that. But where we are You can so do it. Don't they also have someone come in and clean up the paper after they are done?
It's called a Pinata. :D

buzzaro
05-23-2007, 08:09 AM
If only more trades were like the ironworkers. This would have been handled simply and quickly before lunchtime. The only rule is that it be handled off the jobsite so no one gets fired and only possibly spend the night in jail, which is ok:D

moneysucker
05-23-2007, 09:06 AM
I am a general superintendent and I have had to deal with stuff like this too. It was a floor sink that was under test that the plumber had to reach in to pull the plug. I tossed the landlords drywallers off the job and changed the lock box on the building. the only ones on the job on the weekend were the drywallers and the plumbers and I am betting the plumbers didn't piss in their own floor sink. The LL had to find someone else to complete my T/I drywall.
They also piss on the roof to avoid going down the ladder or a multitude of other irritating habbits. But not just Mexicans. I work with a LOT of good guys from south of the border who are good at their jobs and want nothing more than to do a good job and get paid. Of course they are my sub contractors and I have spent a lot of time going through contractors to get this group doing my projects but I am not generalizing based on race. People in general are inconsiderate and ignorant. Mannser and consideration for others and what they have worked hard to get has been replaced with dishonesty and jellousy SP
Cy

dragboat
05-23-2007, 09:43 AM
Don't worry. The govenment will soon give them all citizenship then they will qualify for medicaid, SSI, disability, housing, welfare, foodstamps. Working will then be an option as they will be too busy focking, having free babies and arranging for their familys to come to the USA to ride the gravy train.
God Bless America.
:jawdrop: :idea: :idea: :idea:

Schiada76
05-23-2007, 09:45 AM
If only more trades were like the ironworkers. This would have been handled simply and quickly before lunchtime. The only rule is that it be handled off the jobsite so no one gets fired and only possibly spend the night in jail, which is ok:D
Mexican ironworkers?
That's a scary thought.:jawdrop:

seanv
05-23-2007, 09:55 AM
i left the trades years ago for these types of problems. a few fist fights and what not and i said f-k it!!

hava life
05-23-2007, 10:04 AM
I've been a superintendent for over twenty years and have many stories about the jobsites and not just the Mexican laborers. The best one I think was I was doing models in Coto De Caza and the interior was getting ready for paint the exterior was brown coating and I was marking the rooms for paint. I was in one of the bedrooms and this one Mexican starts pissing through the vent cut in the visquen at the window so I spray painted him and his pants then went outside and fired the f#@ker. He was pissed at me for spraying his unit, hands,and pants. I told him to F@#k off and if you have a problem call the cops or I will if you don't leave. They are always pissing in the tubs, showers, floors ,even on new cabinets. I never laughed so hard, finally caught one:D

buzzaro
05-23-2007, 03:49 PM
Mexican ironworkers?
That's a scary thought.:jawdrop:
Actually there were a couple mexicans on my crew, real good guys. Never had any problems with any ironworkers on the job................off the job however is a different story.

barbigrl
05-23-2007, 03:52 PM
Don't hire beaners in the first place.....
I second this!!!

MR.rvrluvr
05-23-2007, 04:16 PM
don't mind me I am just building my post count....
Please continue....
Gracias...

Mandelon
05-23-2007, 04:17 PM
Cave: I've sen the change in construction from the early 80's to now. Contractors havent lowered the price for hiring these guys. They simpley lined thier pockets. So this crap about hiring them to save us money is Bull Sh!t.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You are getting us confused with the oil companies. Our pocket lining money goes to insurance companies, for that you can thank the attorneys. :mad:
Assholes and dirtbags come in every color. I've got some morenos working for me that I wouldn't trade for ten flojo gueros.

Baja Big Dog
05-23-2007, 04:22 PM
Cave: I've sen the change in construction from the early 80's to now. Contractors havent lowered the price for hiring these guys. They simpley lined thier pockets. So this crap about hiring them to save us money is Bull Sh!t.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You are getting us confused with the oil companies. Our pocket lining money goes to insurance companies, for that you can thank the attorneys. :mad:
Assholes and dirtbags come in every color. I've got some morenos working for me that I wouldn't trade for ten flojo gueros.
Amen...but we are a rare breed...around here.:jawdrop:

riverroyal
05-23-2007, 05:03 PM
i tend to differ with you since you dont know s**t about the industry.....the reason we havent lowered our price is because the price for materials have gone soo high that most have had to hire people for less money just to pay their bills, most small contractors, are just getting by, and with it soo easy for any dip shit to get their cont lic ,and nobody to hold them liable for their crappy work most of the good contractors have had to lower their bids just to get work ......soo you can take your foot out of your mouth any time:)
is more the problem,not building materials

riverroyal
05-23-2007, 05:05 PM
on a few people.The 3 that were fired returned today,demanding proof that they did it.The general threw them off again,for taunting other tradesmen,not pissing.

riverroyal
05-23-2007, 05:08 PM
Mexican ironworkers?
That's a scary thought.:jawdrop:
I believe the union iron workers membership in san diego is now over 50% latino.5 more years it will be 75%.Whitey is out,older guys retiring,no sons or cousins of whitey will do the work.

77charger
05-23-2007, 06:26 PM
Seems like this always comes up but when it comes time for a general to save money who do they hire?Gee how many new homes are built by the "beaners,mexis,or whatever"? from low end to very high end
I work in waterproofing and also some tract work but mainly remodels i can say this there are BAD BUNCHES OF EVERYINE then there are some people who are very good at what they do OF ALL RACES.And the few flakes well i wont even go there!!"Seen more than enough stupidity and dumbasses in 13 years but on the flipside seen some good work too
When i use to put in some major overtime i was never the last person off the jobsite even as it got dark in the summertime always one of the mexicans on the job usually electrician or drywaller.

mike37
05-23-2007, 07:03 PM
I've been a superintendent for over twenty years and have many stories about the jobsites and not just the Mexican laborers. The best one I think was I was doing models in Coto De Caza and the interior was getting ready for paint the exterior was brown coating and I was marking the rooms for paint. I was in one of the bedrooms and this one Mexican starts pissing through the vent cut in the visquen at the window so I spray painted him and his pants then went outside and fired the f#@ker. He was pissed at me for spraying his unit, hands,and pants. I told him to F@#k off and if you have a problem call the cops or I will if you don't leave. They are always pissing in the tubs, showers, floors ,even on new cabinets. I never laughed so hard, finally caught one:D
Do you know Terry Stewart

78Eliminator
05-23-2007, 07:28 PM
so I spray painted him and his pants then went outside and fired the f#@ker. He was pissed at me for spraying his unit, hands,and pants. I told him to F@#k off and if you have a problem call the cops or I will if you don't leave.
That just made my day....:D

YeLLowBoaT
05-23-2007, 07:49 PM
I've been a superintendent for over twenty years and have many stories about the jobsites and not just the Mexican laborers. The best one I think was I was doing models in Coto De Caza and the interior was getting ready for paint the exterior was brown coating and I was marking the rooms for paint. I was in one of the bedrooms and this one Mexican starts pissing through the vent cut in the visquen at the window so I spray painted him and his pants then went outside and fired the f#@ker. He was pissed at me for spraying his unit, hands,and pants. I told him to F@#k off and if you have a problem call the cops or I will if you don't leave. They are always pissing in the tubs, showers, floors ,even on new cabinets. I never laughed so hard, finally caught one:D
Nice...
Only thing that would have made it better was if you had used a airless...:D
Stuff like that is why I don't do alot new construction...There is only 1 home builder I will work for, its all high end custom homes and select group of subs. his job sites are the only ones I've never had a prob on.

laveydayz
05-23-2007, 08:06 PM
Almost every trade has either been taken over or is ready to be, by the Mexis. Whitey has been pushed out of so many trades from Machinists to Construction to mechanics..........Trade schools are full of them.
Of coarse there are some good ones but as a whole they are lazy and do shotty/sloppy work....JMO
My buddy who owns a small Fabrication business, had his guys throwing the shitty toilet in the restroom trash cans. He got so discusted and fed up he began putting the trash cans in their lunchroom before there break...it soon stopped as they got the message.

riverroyal
05-23-2007, 08:55 PM
its not fun anymore,I need something new before my attitude cant be repaired.Anyone hiring?:D

BrianB
05-23-2007, 08:56 PM
Can't teach an old dog new tricks.I've been a commercial super going on ten years and everytime you catch these guy's in an act of filth they just dont care.Tell me how much harder they work....Maybe thats why they can't make it to the chit house ?
What confuses me is why do they steal the toilet paper?
Where does it all go? And what are they using it for? :(

cave
05-23-2007, 09:23 PM
i tend to differ with you since you dont know s**t about the industry.....the reason we havent lowered our price is because the price for materials have gone soo high that most have had to hire people for less money just to pay their bills, most small contractors, are just getting by, and with it soo easy for any dip shit to get their cont lic ,and nobody to hold them liable for their crappy work most of the good contractors have had to lower their bids just to get work ......soo you can take your foot out of your mouth any time:)
No foot in mouth here. Just got out of this end of the biz. Tired of all the the BS. No yodas whey. I know that many contractors, not all but some turn a blind eye. How do I now this? I speak fockin Spanish. I understand Spanish and I hear what the wachos say. Contractors know they are illegal just turn a blind eye. A good Framer could make w/ tools 25 or more per hour back in the day. Way more than that with experience. We could layout and frame square & clean and would never piss in or on anyone's tools. That's their livelihood! Today you can get two wachos for less than 25 bux and laborer too. I know many Chicanos in the Biz I'm one of them.
Don't take this personal bro. Your not hiring them right? Lets agree to disagree on what I know. But I more than sh!t about this.:D As for having to lower your bids, Now you know what I had to do to compete with these illegals. I had to do the same. With a house payment, taxes, insurance car & health. Definitely a change in life style.
Oye whey yo trabajo tambiƩn muchas hora de tiempo extraordinario con el compas. :D Not many tho but they were legal. Oops That there was spangelish;)

rideorange
05-23-2007, 11:16 PM
I gotta add my two cents here. Now I'm a young white guy working in the concrete construction world, so I def see things from the bottom up whereas some (not all) supers etc may not see the whole story. while pissing on your stuff is wrong no doubt, the statements of a few that you should never hire a "mexican" ( or someone from Guatamala, or El Salvador or any South American) is just not possible. Now this is not addressed to you guys who have worked in the industry for a while and work hard, but as far as new hires go, most young white people just are not willing to work for the money, whatever the wage may be. The young white kids want the easy way out. So sooner or later when you older guys retire a "mexican" more than likely will be hired because for the most part they are willing to work. I see it all the time. Some new white guy gets hired, realizes the work is to hard and leaves a week later. Im the only white guy with a crew of my "brown" freinds and I have no problem cuz these guys pull thier on weight. My advice? If ya dont know spanish start practicing.