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boatsnblondes
05-29-2007, 08:01 PM
Finally shows her spots.....she's a socialist boys and girls, always has been, always will be. She studied under one of the most influencial socialists of the 20th century, and did her thesis on a radical socialist from Chicago. For years, no one was able to get the thing to read it, as she had had it removed from public view....now it is back out, and I have read that it is disturbing reading...she has spent YEARS in the Senate painting herself as a centrist to attract the folks in the middle...make no mistake, electing her to the Presidency is the beginning of the end for the middle class and America as we know it.
Read this..... (http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070529/clinton_economy.html?.v=1)
Be afraid, be VERY afraid......
Shared prosperity?? SHARED PROSPERITY????? ARE YOU FOCKING KIDDING ME??????????????

Blown 472
05-29-2007, 08:06 PM
You are right, god forbid we do anything to stop jobs from going out of this country.
Maybe those poor saps that worked at enron might have a different take on it, seems bush covered his buddies on that deal, no?

boatsnblondes
05-29-2007, 08:31 PM
Well said 472 well said, well said, good for you. Indeed, lets keep jobs here, keep them here and not ship them over seas. Lets do it by making everyone equal, no one is better than anyone else, my house is your house, we all share the wealth. By the way, I'll be over for your boat this weekend, since your in such a mood to share....ain't seen your wife yet....I'll wait on that one. :D

Blown 472
05-29-2007, 08:39 PM
Well said 472 well said, well said, good for you. Indeed, lets keep jobs here, keep them here and not ship them over seas. Lets do it by making everyone equal, no one is better than anyone else, my house is your house, we all share the wealth. By the way, I'll be over for your boat this weekend, since your in such a mood to share....ain't seen your wife yet....I'll wait on that one. :D
Na, **** it, send them all over then we can all work at wal mart selling that ****ing china shit. I read that article and didn't get any of what you are saying from it, but then I am not a right wing zealot.
You can use the boat, if it will start, and dont have a wife, but you can have the neighbors.

boatsnblondes
05-29-2007, 08:43 PM
You only need to understand two words from that article...................SHARED PROSPERITY....shared wealth......shared money......everyone equal......everyone sharing.........everyone the same......need I go on??? What times a good time to pick up the boat???
And BTW, you don't have to be a right wing zealot to understand that my money is mine, yours is yours, how we spend it and how much we have is due to how hard we work for it.....sorry, I don't want to share with the folks in South Central because they are too lazy to get off thier collective azzes and get a job.....

Blown 472
05-29-2007, 08:48 PM
You only need to understand two words from that article...................SHARED PROSPERITY....shared wealth......shared money......everyone equal......everyone sharing.........everyone the same......need I go on??? What times a good time to pick up the boat???
Now do you really think they are going to take your money?
Anytime afternoon, that is when I get up.

BajaMike
05-29-2007, 08:52 PM
You could also read Hillary's "It Takes A Village".....meaning, Hillary and her socialist friends can do a better job raising your kids then you can......:idea:
It takes a village, and the government and the democrats to know whats best for you and your kids....doesn't that just warm your heart and make you feel your kids are safe???
:confused:

QuickJet
05-29-2007, 08:52 PM
Lets ship both Hillary AND Bush overseas where they belong.
Nah, they'd just sneak back over the boarder like everyone else that shouldn't be here.

Blown 472
05-29-2007, 08:54 PM
Lets ship both Hillary AND Bush overseas where they belong.
Nah, they'd just sneak back over the boarder like everyone else that shouldn't be here.
No shit there brother.

QuickJet
05-29-2007, 08:56 PM
No shit there brother.
Well other than the two peices of shit I mentioned in my post :D ;)

3 daytona`s
05-29-2007, 09:01 PM
Lets ship both Hillary AND Bush overseas where they belong.
Nah, they'd just sneak back over the boarder like everyone else that shouldn't be here.
WOW what a statement,so you hate both sides. :(

3 daytona`s
05-29-2007, 09:01 PM
Lets ship both Hillary AND Bush overseas where they belong.
Nah, they'd just sneak back over the boarder like everyone else that shouldn't be here.
WOW what a statement,so you hate both sides. :(

QuickJet
05-29-2007, 09:20 PM
WOW what a statement,so you hate both sides. :(
Hah, that's funny. Just because Bush has an "R" beside his name doesn't mean he's a Republican. I think the "R" in his case stands for retard. His open boarder amnesty plan is proof of that. Well that and feeding the world and kissing the ass of countries that hate us before looking out for our well being. Seriously, how can you wage a war on terror with our front and back doors open. I'm smart enough to lock the doors on my house, why can't the President lock the doors on the country?
Bush is a joke who has nothing to offer than motivational soundbites dirrected towards the Steven Segal/ Rambo crowd.
And don't even get me started on Hillary, she's a commie bitch with every intention of screwing over the workin man.:mad: :devil:

boatsnblondes
05-29-2007, 09:29 PM
If I have to pick the lessor of two evils between Bush and Hillary errrr...Billary, I'll take Jr. at least he has the balls to do the dirty work...Hillary?? Please...

Havasu1
05-30-2007, 07:51 AM
You are right, god forbid we do anything to stop jobs from going out of this country.
Maybe those poor saps that worked at enron might have a different take on it, seems bush covered his buddies on that deal, no?
As if the government has anything to do with jobs creation, unless it is growing the government and taking our hard earned cash. It kills me when any politician says they are responsible for job creation in their state, or the country. They only impede job growth. It's the private sector and Entrepreneurs that generate jobs. Food for thought, when was the last time the government did anything better than the private sector? How about the DMV, Post Office, IRS........ Really looking forward to the new universal healthcare plan Hillary has planned for us.
Oh wait, what about all that free oil we were suppose to get from Iraq after we invaded? I mean, the war was all about oil right? Yes sir, thank god gas is only 25 cents a gallon.
Both sides are sell outs, Dems or Reps, they only winners are about 12 million illegal aliens...I mean illegal immigrants.....no wait, immigrants......better yet, free loaders.

Sleek-Jet
05-30-2007, 08:04 AM
"All animals are equal... but some animals are more equal than others..."
I'll buy a beer for the first person that can tell me what book that quote is from...

Jordy
05-30-2007, 08:09 AM
"All animals are equal... but some animals are more equal than others..."
I'll buy a beer for the first person that can tell me what book that quote is from...
C'mon now... that's easy. Bluto said that in Animal House, I mean it was in that Animal Farm book. ;)

framer1
05-30-2007, 08:17 AM
"All animals are equal... but some animals are more equal than others..."
I'll buy a beer for the first person that can tell me what book that quote is from...
Animal farm

framer1
05-30-2007, 08:18 AM
C'mon now... that's easy. Bluto said that in Animal House, I mean it was in that Animal Farm book. ;)
Didn't read your post.....2nd is no good:)

Sleek-Jet
05-30-2007, 08:23 AM
C'mon now... that's easy. Bluto said that in Animal House, I mean it was in that Animal Farm book. ;)
Now you just have to come down to Tucson to collect that beer... :D
Seriously though... what Hillary said sounds just like the pigs doesn't it??? :idea:

Jordy
05-30-2007, 08:28 AM
Now you just have to come down to Tucson to collect that beer... :D
Seriously though... what Hillary said sounds just like the pigs doesn't it??? :idea:
First off, I'm not going all the way to North Nogales for only one beer. ;)
When is the next meeting of the BMW club down there??? Maybe I'll make an appearance. :D
Secondly, yes, Hillary sounds like (and resembles) the pigs in Animal Farm so much it frightens me... :jawdrop: :eek: :jawdrop:

ULTRA26 # 1
05-30-2007, 08:32 AM
Lets ship both Hillary AND Bush overseas where they belong.
Nah, they'd just sneak back over the boarder like everyone else that shouldn't be here.
We agree on this one.

ULTRA26 # 1
05-30-2007, 08:39 AM
If I have to pick the lessor of two evils between Bush and Hillary errrr...Billary, I'll take Jr. at least he has the balls to do the dirty work...Hillary?? Please...
I'll take Jr. at least he has the balls to do the dirty work
This is propabally the most ridiculas comment you've made thus far.
Dude, wake up and smell the turds your boy has dropped all around you.
Peace

Racey
05-30-2007, 10:24 AM
Keep all the jobs here so next time you go to buy that $1,500 television that was made in asia it will cost you $15,000, kinda defeats the purpose doesnt it....

hazard
05-30-2007, 11:32 AM
Now do you really think they are going to take your money?
Its called taxes Beeeeeyatch. :eat: How else would the government take your money. We live in the LOWEST tax period our contry has ever seen. I can guarantee you that will change once the dems take over. Leaving me with less money to purchase consumer goods and give to charity.
Its also known as Communism or Socialism to share prosperity or wealth. I work hard for my money, I want to keep it. Not share it with someone who doesn't work!!!

Racey
05-30-2007, 12:00 PM
Its also known as Communism or Socialism to share prosperity or wealth. I work hard for my money, I want to keep it. Not share it with someone who doesn't work!!!
100% agreement with you on that, All her plan will do is promote laziness in this country, like we need more of that, and take away all incentive from the people that want to work hard to get more out of life than just making it by.

rodnjen
05-30-2007, 12:31 PM
Once again I fail to see the problem. I certainly don't see the need to panic.

Coded-Dude
05-30-2007, 01:33 PM
So, somebody that actually works hard day in and day out - providing Food and other resources to this country - deserves to make less than some silver spooned college kid who's daddy gave him a multi-million dollar company. Yeah many of you may have earned your dollars but you can bet a lot of rich people didn't get rich.....they were born into wealth. Don't get me wrong, I am in total agreement that if you work hard for your money, you deserve it much more so than someone who doesn't work at all. (THATS NOT EQUAL PEOPLE!) Life is not fair, that much is certain, but if you want to get all RADICAL, all the right wing is gonna do is make the rich richer and the poor poorer. (middle class loses again) Of course if you came from a rich home, you are not one that needs to worry.
Oh and the lower class are more likely to put a much higher percentage of their income back into the economy than rich people.
Rich people usually get rich by not spending their money.........

Blown 472
05-30-2007, 01:53 PM
100% agreement with you on that, All her plan will do is promote laziness in this country, like we need more of that, and take away all incentive from the people that want to work hard to get more out of life than just making it by.
You mean like not wanting to do jobs that are lower then you? like having a bunch of wetbacks do it cuz your better then that, that kinda lazy? seems like we have a lot of that going on right now in our country.

ULTRA26 # 1
05-30-2007, 02:07 PM
You only need to understand two words from that article...................SHARED PROSPERITY....shared wealth......shared money......everyone equal......everyone sharing.........everyone the same......need I go on??? What times a good time to pick up the boat???
And BTW, you don't have to be a right wing zealot to understand that my money is mine, yours is yours, how we spend it and how much we have is due to how hard we work for it.....sorry, I don't want to share with the folks in South Central because they are too lazy to get off thier collective azzes and get a job.....
BnB,
Your comment how we spend it and how much we have is due to how hard we work for it. simply isn't true. There are many people work extremely hard and get paid far less than many who don't work as hard. Many people would say "that's life" and I would have to agree.
Quote BnB
I don't want to share with the folks in South Central because they are too lazy to get off their collective azzes and get a job
Stating that people who live in South Central are lazy is not only racist but extremely uninformed. Obviously you are under the impression that you work harder than, as you put it, those collectively lazy ass folks down there is South Central. If you do some research on South Central, I think that you will find that your comment was way out of line.
Have you ever thought about withdrawing from society and stop paying taxes all together. This way you wouldn't have to share any of the money you work so hard for, with anything or any body. Of course, this would mean that you would not be eligible for any type of service provided by your State and Federal Govt's, including education for your children, Police, Fire or Rescue Services, paved streets and highways, SS or Medicare when you get older and so on. I'm sure that you would find this much more fair than having a few of your tax dollars going to help people less fortunate than your self, you know what I mean, like those lazy fu*ks you refer to. :eek:
Thinking about what you say before you say it, is a sign of maturity. Consider this, please.
Peace

QuickJet
05-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Oh and the lower class are more likely to put a much higher percentage of their income back into the economy than rich people.
Rich people usually get rich by not spending their money.........
That's complete BS!!!
Name one poor person who has employees or owns a buisiness. It's the rich that give the jobs not the poor. The middle class is threatend by the poor more than it is by the rich. I'd like to see the investment portfolio of Juan Gomez.
The rich spend and invest, not the poor.

QuickJet
05-30-2007, 03:01 PM
BnB,
Your comment how we spend it and how much we have is due to how hard we work for it. simply isn't true. There are many people work extremely hard and get paid far less than many who don't work as hard. Many people would say "that's life" and I would have to agree.
Quote BnB
I don't want to share with the folks in South Central because they are too lazy to get off their collective azzes and get a job
Stating that people who live in South Central are lazy is not only racist but extremely uninformed. Obviously you are under the impression that you work harder than, as you put it, those collectively lazy ass folks down there is South Central. If you do some research on South Central, I think that you will find that your comment was way out of line.
Have you ever thought about withdrawing from society and stop paying taxes all together. This way you wouldn't have to share any of the money you work so hard for, with anything or any body. Of course, this would mean that you would not be eligible for any type of service provided by your State and Federal Govt's, including education for your children, Police, Fire or Rescue Services, paved streets and highways, SS or Medicare when you get older and so on. I'm sure that you would find this much more fair than having a few of your tax dollars going to help people less fortunate than your self, you know what I mean, like those lazy fu*ks you refer to. :eek:
Thinking about what you say before you say it, is a sign of maturity. Consider this, please.
Peace
The last I had heard South Central L.A. had one of the highest unemployment rates in all of California and rank pretty high in the nation.
I'd say lazyness rather than race.
Funny thing though, South cCentral has one of the lowest tax bases yet uses most of the Governemnt resources. Hmmmmm..... since they don't pay for the services, why do they get so many of them??

Coded-Dude
05-30-2007, 03:17 PM
It's the rich that give the jobs not the poor.
True to an extent, but my father is not rich by any means of the word, but does have his own business(he's had a few over his lifetime)that he works very hard at and has employed plenty of people.
I was mostly being satirical anyways, as some of the comments in here are outlandish at best.
Example: "You only need to understand two words from that article...................SHARED PROSPERITY....shared wealth......shared money......everyone equal......everyone sharing.........everyone the same......need I go on???" LOL - Thats a little more than two words, and is no more logical than saying: "If the Rich had their way there would be no middle class, only poor and rich"
(it means more money for them ya know).
.....and yes, poor people don't have enough money to "invest," usually meaning a higher percentage of it goes back into the economy.
Let say you make $1200 week; you spend $400, invest $400, and save $400
That means you only put 60% back into the economy over one weeks time
A poorer person is more apt to live "paycheck to paycheck," thus putting at least 90%+ of their income back into the economy.
Obviously there is a substantial difference in dollar amount, but I did say percentage.
The rich focus primarily on "capital gains" and "passive income" instead of "earned income".

QuickJet
05-30-2007, 03:51 PM
True to an extent, but my father is not rich by any means of the word, but does have his own business(he's had a few over his lifetime)that he works very hard at and has employed plenty of people.
I was mostly being satirical anyways, as some of the comments in here are outlandish at best.
Example: "You only need to understand two words from that article...................SHARED PROSPERITY....shared wealth......shared money......everyone equal......everyone sharing.........everyone the same......need I go on???" LOL - Thats a little more than two words, and is no more logical than saying: "If the Rich had their way there would be no middle class, only poor and rich"
(it means more money for them ya know).
.....and yes, poor people don't have enough money to "invest," usually meaning a higher percentage of it goes back into the economy.
Let say you make $1200 week; you spend $400, invest $400, and save $400
That means you only put 60% back into the economy over one weeks time
A poorer person is more apt to live "paycheck to paycheck," thus putting at least 90%+ of their income back into the economy.
Obviously there is a substantial difference in dollar amount, but I did say percentage.
The rich focus primarily on "capital gains" and "passive income" instead of "earned income".
The poor tend to spend in what is called an underground "tax Free" economy where as the rich/ middle class spend more on "new items".
By your example, the rich would take a $1,200 weekly check (which is actualy middle class, but for arguments sake we will stick with your example) and spend 100% back into the econonmy.
Spending $400, investing $400, and saving $400 are all things that keep the economy strong. The middle class and rich save money via banks and Credit unions whereas the poor keep it in their wallets or under the mattress only to spend it on a tax free item on Craigslist or to pay rent.
We can go on about the millions the wealthy pay in taxes as oposed to the "non taxes" the poor pay or the very little.

SB
05-31-2007, 07:22 AM
Hillary's rant reminds me of her comment that she wanted to "take" oil company profits.
She ought to hire at least one democratic capitalist for her speech writing staff.

Big Warlock
05-31-2007, 07:25 AM
Maybe those poor saps that worked at enron might have a different take on it, seems bush covered his buddies on that deal, no?
Although it Enron collapsed in Bush presidency, you forget that Clinton and Enron officials were very, very tight. All the overnights at the white house and legislation moves for deregulation of the gas industry occurred on Clinton's watch. But nice try on rewriting history!! :D

Big Warlock
05-31-2007, 07:31 AM
That's complete BS!!!
Name one poor person who has employees or owns a buisiness. It's the rich that give the jobs not the poor. The middle class is threatend by the poor more than it is by the rich. I'd like to see the investment portfolio of Juan Gomez.
The rich spend and invest, not the poor.
Amen!

boatsnblondes
05-31-2007, 07:32 AM
Although it Enron collapsed in Bush presidency, you forget that Clinton and Enron officials were very, very tight. All the overnights at the white house and legislation moves for deregulation of the gas industry occurred on Clinton's watch. But nice try on rewriting history!! :D
They'll do anything to protect Clinton, he's all they got.....too bad..:rolleyes:

Big Warlock
05-31-2007, 07:33 AM
The rich focus primarily on "capital gains" and "passive income" instead of "earned income".
You have no idea what you're talking about!
The democratic definition of rich is only $28K and up! Read the tax bills submitted by democrats! "Only going to tax the wealthyiest Americans." And while you applaud, they are in YOUR pocket!!!! I love that part! :D

Havasu1
05-31-2007, 07:34 AM
Hillary's rant reminds me of her comment that she wanted to "take" oil company profits.
She ought to hire at least one democratic capitalist for her speech writing staff.
I agree, Hillary always wants to take the oil companies profits because they are "gauging the public". I saw this stat in the paper not to long ago. Big Oil makes about .08 cents a gallon of gas. For this they must invest heavely to find the oil, then get it out of the ground, then transport it, then refine it, and then sell it. On average, state and local governments tax gas .50 cents a gallon. For this they must do...................................NOTHING! So, who is gauging the public:devil:

Big Warlock
05-31-2007, 07:40 AM
I agree, Hillary always wants to take the oil companies profits because they are "gauging the public". I saw this stat in the paper not to long ago. Big Oil makes about .08 cents a gallon of gas. For this they must invest heavely to find the oil, then get it out of the ground, then transport it, then refine it, and then sell it. On average, state and local governments tax gas .50 cents a gallon. For this they must do...................................NOTHING! So, who is gauging the public:devil:
Absolutely!! But there are a ton of morons on this website that continue to pound how Cheney and Bush own the oil companies and are making all this money. Honestly, the stupidity around here is mind boggling!!

Coded-Dude
05-31-2007, 07:49 AM
You have no idea what you're talking about!
The democratic definition of rich is only $28K and up! Read the tax bills submitted by democrats! "Only going to tax the wealthyiest Americans." And while you applaud, they are in YOUR pocket!!!! I love that part! :D
what in the hell does any of that have to do with with earned income versus passive income/capital gains? :idea:
Are you trying to argue that "rich" people depend on their earned income just as much as "poor" people?
I don't care what the dems definition of rich is, that doesn't negate the statement.

Sleek-Jet
05-31-2007, 09:43 AM
what in the hell does any of that have to do with with earned income versus passive income/capital gains? :idea:
Are you trying to argue that "rich" people depend on their earned income just as much as "poor" people?
I don't care what the dems definition of rich is, that doesn't negate the statement.
OK... what's your deffinition of "Rich"??? Is it a monitary line in the sand, portfolio worth, liquidity?? What??
Some of the wealthiest people I know easily spend 80 hours a week on business. A few haven't had a vacation in several years. The don't get to call in sick. They don't get three day weekends. They work and have worked very hard for their money.
I work very hard for mine, I would like to keep my money that I worked for and have saved for my future, thank you very much. And before you say it, I come from a long line of distinguished poor people.
To say that the "Rich" don't work hard is laughable...

Coded-Dude
05-31-2007, 09:56 AM
To say that the "Rich" don't work hard is laughable...
.....and please quote where I stated the rich don't work......:idea:
Don't get me wrong, I am in total agreement that if you work hard for your money, you deserve it much more so than someone who doesn't work at all. (THATS NOT EQUAL PEOPLE!)
A "Rich" person is someone who doesn't have to rely solely on EARNED INCOME
They have investments and capital gains that benefit them as well.
If a rich person loses their job(earned income) they have other venues to use that someone, who only relies on earned income(generally poorer people), don't.
I'm merely stating that its just as absurd to say poor people don't work hard.
We can argue the radical extremes of both sides all day long.
Money is hardly a defining factor of how "hard" someone does/doesn't work.

Old Texan
05-31-2007, 10:10 AM
I agree, Hillary always wants to take the oil companies profits because they are "gauging the public". I saw this stat in the paper not to long ago. Big Oil makes about .08 cents a gallon of gas. For this they must invest heavely to find the oil, then get it out of the ground, then transport it, then refine it, and then sell it. On average, state and local governments tax gas .50 cents a gallon. For this they must do...................................NOTHING! So, who is gauging the public:devil:
The taking of profits from the "Big Oil Companies" would be forcing them to move offshore. The loss of jobs these companies and the support companies affiliated with the industry, would cause an economic collapse making the great depression look like "Spring Break".
Big Oil is owned by shareholders and many are small investors not to mention pension funds. Ya, take away their profits and put them out of business, real smart move.:rolleyes:
Hillary is a complete out of whack nutjob with a definite Socialist mentality that spells nothing but disaster if elected. No business sense and a want to put social programs into effect at the expense of the working populace.
I could never figure out what the hell Bill ever saw in her???? Must have been something to do with political power?

Sleek-Jet
05-31-2007, 10:24 AM
.....and please quote where I stated the rich don't work......:idea:
OK....
So, somebody that actually works hard day in and day out - providing Food and other resources to this country - deserves to make less than some silver spooned college kid who's daddy gave him a multi-million dollar company. Yeah many of you may have earned your dollars but you can bet a lot of rich people didn't get rich.....they were born into wealth. .........
You've implied, right there in that paragraph that the rich don't work, that their wealth has been given to them.
All the people I know that would be considered by many to be rich, are self made.

ULTRA26 # 1
05-31-2007, 10:27 AM
The last I had heard South Central L.A. had one of the highest unemployment rates in all of California and rank pretty high in the nation.
I'd say lazyness rather than race.
Funny thing though, South cCentral has one of the lowest tax bases yet uses most of the Governemnt resources. Hmmmmm..... since they don't pay for the services, why do they get so many of them??
QJ,
Suggesting that those in areas such as South Central or Harlem have the same opportunities as those in more affluent areas, isn't true. Also, suggesting that the unemployment levels are due to laziness, is also not true.
Would you suggest cutting off all govt resources to those who those who don't have enough income to pay taxes? In So Cal, working 40 per week at minimum wage will barely provide enough income to rent an apartment, in the worst possible neighborhood, and buy food. Surely this is not enough income to pay income tax. Are these the lazy folks that you refer to?
Funny thing though, South cCentral has one of the lowest tax bases yet uses most of the Governemnt resources. Hmmmmm..... since they don't pay for the services, why do they get so many of them??
Look, I'm not for providing free money to those who refuse to work. I'm not for providing welfare, food stamps, or anything similar to illegals, either.
I'm of the opinion that those who are provided welfare should be required to work for their welfare money.
The reality is that there is a huge element of luck involved with levels of success. You can take 10 people of equal intelligence, ambition and drive. Start them off in the same work enviorment and the result will be 10 different levels of success.
Hmmmmm..... since they don't pay for the services, why do they get so many of them??
Would you suggest cutting them off?
Peace

QuickJet
05-31-2007, 11:12 AM
QJ,
Suggesting that those in areas such as South Central or Harlem have the same opportunities as those in more affluent areas, isn't true. Also, suggesting that the unemployment levels are due to laziness, is also not true.
Would you suggest cutting off all govt resources to those who those who don't have enough income to pay taxes? In So Cal, working 40 per week at minimum wage will barely provide enough income to rent an apartment, in the worst possible neighborhood, and buy food. Surely this is not enough income to pay income tax. Are these the lazy folks that you refer to?
Funny thing though, South cCentral has one of the lowest tax bases yet uses most of the Governemnt resources. Hmmmmm..... since they don't pay for the services, why do they get so many of them??
Look, I'm not for providing free money to those who refuse to work. I'm not for providing welfare, food stamps, or anything similar to illegals, either.
I'm of the opinion that those who are provided welfare should be required to work for their welfare money.
The reality is that there is a huge element of luck involved with levels of success. You can take 10 people of equal intelligence, ambition and drive. Start them off in the same work enviorment and the result will be 10 different levels of success.
Hmmmmm..... since they don't pay for the services, why do they get so many of them??
Would you suggest cutting them off?
Peace
Drive through south central and tell me what you see. I had a tire route there in the mid 80's and every Wednesday I had to drive through these neighborhoods. I saw liquor stores everywhere and people hangin around outside. This was mid day. People all over the place not working. Statistics back up my experience. Your enviorment is what you make of it.
And luck has NOTHING to do with success. Hard work, a quality product, job ethics etc. are the requirements for success.
As far as provisions for these areas I look at it this way. A helping hand for a short period of time is acceptable, but when you have generation after generation relying on Government assistance you have a problem. Why all the kids? Why all the unknown fathers? Why the drugs? Why the Dubs on the Caprice but no food for the kid? Why the doo rag?
And yes......I'd support cutting the area off more than I would a blank check with zero accountability.

Big Warlock
05-31-2007, 11:52 AM
.....and please quote where I stated the rich don't work......:idea:
A "Rich" person is someone who doesn't have to rely solely on EARNED INCOME
They have investments and capital gains that benefit them as well.
If a rich person loses their job(earned income) they have other venues to use that someone, who only relies on earned income(generally poorer people), don't.
I'm merely stating that its just as absurd to say poor people don't work hard.
We can argue the radical extremes of both sides all day long.
Money is hardly a defining factor of how "hard" someone does/doesn't work.
So I would like to know if you consider yourself a "rich" person?

Coded-Dude
05-31-2007, 12:55 PM
@ Sleek-Jet
I have not implied anything, I merely stated many wealthy people are born into wealth, making is substantially easier to attain more wealth(back to capital gains, and passive income again). I never said ANYTHING about the OVERALL work ethics of wealthy people. Only pointed out that there are just as many lazy spoiled rich kids as there are lazy dependent poor kids. If others here can make bold outlandish claims about the overall laziness of poor people, why can't i do the same about rich people? :idea:
Like I said, we can argue extremes all day long. ;)
@ Big Warlock
Nope, I was relatively poor when growing up, but since the age of 20 I have been middle class.
Working hard for 6 years straight at a top fortune 500 company.....all by my own hard work ethics.
I skipped college because everybody told me I NEEDED college to be successful, however we both know thats not true.
While I make decent money.....I am still relying 100% on Earned income, I have invested into 401k, but won't see that for at least another 30+ years.

Big Warlock
05-31-2007, 02:05 PM
I wasn't poor growing up. But I made everything myself. My folks did provide me with a college education (Bachelor's / Engineering). However, I worked as much as I could in the summer to earn as much as I could to put into the pot. The Army paid for my graduate degree. And I disagree with your assessment that a college education is not required. It MAY not be required, but it does assist in many ways. I wouldn"t be doing what I am doing nor have my income without it.

Coded-Dude
05-31-2007, 02:22 PM
Education is most definitely necessary, but college is only necessary if your job requires a diploma.
Many places now take equivalent work experience.
I am in IT, and was somewhat mentored, but did a lot of reading on my own.
All I had to do was prove my knowledge with a test, not a college degree.
Whilst I agree that is certainly helps to have a degree, if you can prove you worth by other means of education, its still not necessary.
Being self-taught or even apprenticed often times shows just as much if not more value than a degree.
This is not directed at anybody here, but I know plenty of people with "degrees" that don't know their left from their right.
You should be proud of your accomplishments BW, I know I am proud of mine.
There is a big difference between help and handouts, and everyone needs a little help from time to time.......
Handouts are for the lazy, and I also disagree with such methods of "welfare."

ULTRA26 # 1
05-31-2007, 05:13 PM
Drive through south central and tell me what you see. I had a tire route there in the mid 80's and every Wednesday I had to drive through these neighborhoods. I saw liquor stores everywhere and people hangin around outside. This was mid day. People all over the place not working. Statistics back up my experience. Your enviorment is what you make of it.
And luck has NOTHING to do with success. Hard work, a quality product, job ethics etc. are the requirements for success.
As far as provisions for these areas I look at it this way. A helping hand for a short period of time is acceptable, but when you have generation after generation relying on Government assistance you have a problem. Why all the kids? Why all the unknown fathers? Why the drugs? Why the Dubs on the Caprice but no food for the kid? Why the doo rag?
And yes......I'd support cutting the area off more than I would a blank check with zero accountability.
South Central in the mid 80's and today is a very different place. The true slums have moved west toward Inglewood, where I grew up.
I know some very sucessful people who would strongly disagree with your comment And luck has NOTHING to do with success Think about it. If there was no element of luck, everyone who worked equally hard and as ethicly as possible, and produced the finest quality product would be equally successful. This is far from being the case.
A blank check? I don't believe even the most liberal of liberals, supports giving anyone or any area a blank check. The doo rag???????
Peace

QuickJet
05-31-2007, 05:29 PM
There is no such thing as luck. It's not tangeable and it's not obtainable. Some say that a man who survives a burning car crash off a 100 ft. cliff without even a scratch is lucky while in reality if he had any true luck he would of not been in the crash at all. If Hillary were to be elected those who voted for her would call her qualified while those who didn't would just say she got lucky. Since there is no such thing as luck, the true reason she would of won was because there were enough stupid people who bought her bull shit.
As for the doo rag. Would you hire anybody with one?

ULTRA26 # 1
05-31-2007, 07:43 PM
There is no such thing as luck. It's not tangeable and it's not obtainable. Some say that a man who survives a burning car crash off a 100 ft. cliff without even a scratch is lucky while in reality if he had any true luck he would of not been in the crash at all. If Hillary were to be elected those who voted for her would call her qualified while those who didn't would just say she got lucky. Since there is no such thing as luck, the true reason she would of won was because there were enough stupid people who bought her bull shit.
As for the doo rag. Would you hire anybody with one?
There is no such thing as luck??? It's not tangeable and it's not obtainable :confused:
An athiest I take it.
Peace

QuickJet
05-31-2007, 08:09 PM
There is no such thing as luck??? It's not tangeable and it's not obtainable :confused:
An athiest I take it.
Peace
Don't confuse "Luck" with "faith". Name the passage in the Bible where it says "Jesus was Lucky".
I'm Mormon BTW.....remember?

ULTRA26 # 1
06-01-2007, 03:14 PM
Don't confuse "Luck" with "faith". Name the passage in the Bible where it says "Jesus was Lucky".
I'm Mormon BTW.....remember?
Didn't think I was. Your words : There is no such thing as luck. It's not tangeable and it's not obtainable
I didn't think that faith was tangible.
I forgot or never knew you were mormon. I wasn't trying to be rude
Peace

OKIE-JET
06-01-2007, 03:59 PM
And luck has NOTHING to do with success.
That's laughable.

QuickJet
06-01-2007, 04:08 PM
I didn't think that faith was tangible.
Peace
Faith is tangible and obtainable. People pay millions to Evanjelicles for faith. It can be obtained for free as well.
Now tell me where you can obtain or purchase luck?
What is luck and what does it have to do with success? Give me an example and I'll be able to rebute it with facts.
Again, luck has NOTHING to do with success. If that was the case then Bad luck would be the reason for a failing buisiness. Again, proove what good luck realy is.

QuickJet
06-01-2007, 04:08 PM
That's laughable.
The truth sometimes is.

Coded-Dude
06-01-2007, 04:12 PM
so there is only coincidence, or is everything pre-ordained?
If that is the case, one could consider Divine Intervention to be lucky, or maybe just well deserved.

Old Texan
06-01-2007, 04:17 PM
:devil: Faith is tangible and obtainable. People pay millions to Evanjelicles for faith. It can be obtained for free as well.
Now tell me where you can obtain or purchase luck?
What is luck and what does it have to do with success? Give me an example and I'll be able to rebute it with facts.
Again, luck has NOTHING to do with success. If that was the case then Bad luck would be the reason for a failing buisiness. Again, proove what good luck realy is.
Rabbit's feet, 4 leaf clovers, horseshoes, hookers kissing your dice. All examples of purchased tokens to bring "good luck".:devil:
I've always heard the definiton of luck to be hard work, good planning, and "intelligent" decison making coupled with perserverance, but what do I know.......
Peace, love, dope

QuickJet
06-01-2007, 04:18 PM
so there is only coincidence, or is everything pre-ordained?
If that is the case, one could consider Divine Intervention to be lucky, or maybe just well deserved.
Take luck out of the equasion. Luck is a made up sense that doesn't exist. To beleive in luck would mean the beleif in voodoo dolls and broken mirriors. If Bill Gates opened an umbrella indoors would he suddenly become poverty stricken? I think not.
Luck, good or bad, is nothing more than an excuse for lack of intellegence, bad buisiness skills or just plain lowsey work.
I do pretty dang well and attribute NONE of it to luck. My competitors failure means they sucked and needed to do something else.

QuickJet
06-01-2007, 04:21 PM
:devil:
Rabbit's feet, 4 leaf clovers, horseshoes, hookers kissing your dice. All examples of purchased tokens to bring "good luck".:devil:
I've always heard the definiton of luck to be hard work, good planning, and "intelligent" decison making coupled with perserverance, but what do I know.......
Peace, love, dope
What if you get busted paying a hooker to kiss your dice? :D
Good post Tex!

Forkin' Crazy
06-01-2007, 08:00 PM
LMAO!!!!:)
With all this "luck" talk..... Remember when Hillary made questionable $$,$$$ on the stock market, that was pure luck, right? :idea:
:confused:
;)

Old Texan
06-02-2007, 03:08 AM
LMAO!!!!:)
With all this "luck" talk..... Remember when Hillary made questionable $$,$$$ on the stock market, that was pure luck, right? :idea:
:confused:
;)
Bill getting caught "not" having sex was a prime example of "bad luck"......getting the blow job under the Oval office desk was "good luck".....picking an intern that didn't swallow and spit it on her dress was just piss poor planning.:devil:

ULTRA26 # 1
06-02-2007, 04:51 AM
:devil:
Rabbit's feet, 4 leaf clovers, horseshoes, hookers kissing your dice. All examples of purchased tokens to bring "good luck".:devil:
I've always heard the definiton of luck to be hard work, good planning, and "intelligent" decison making coupled with perserverance, but what do I know.......
Peace, love, dope
Tex,
Winning the lottery is a result of hard work, good planning, and "intelligent" decision making coupled with perserverance,
And you refer to me a dope.
Faith is tangible and obtainable. People pay millions to Evanjelicles for faith. It can be obtained for free as well.
Now tell me where you can obtain or purchase luck?
What is luck and what does it have to do with success? Give me an example and I'll be able to rebute it with facts.
Again, luck has NOTHING to do with success. If that was the case then Bad luck would be the reason for a failing buisiness. Again, proove what good luck realy is.
Faith is tangible because people donate in the name of their religious beliefs????
I already gave you an example. But here is another.
2 builders build the exact same product.(equal quality) Both work equally hard both and both are equally ethical. Donald Trump happens to notice the hard work of one of the builders and offers to finance a billion dollar project from which this builder nets ten million in profit.
Please refute with facts promised
F'n unvbelievable.

bigq
06-02-2007, 07:11 AM
2 builders build the exact same product.(equal quality) Both work equally hard both and both are equally ethical. Donald Trump happens to notice the hard work of one of the builders and offers to finance a billion dollar project from which this builder nets ten million in profit.
F'n unvbelievable.
That is impossible. Trump makes a choice. A choice would involve a decision a decision a decision involves a judgment. Something about the unchosen he did not like, could have been a piece of food stuck in a tooth.
Not to mention the guy that lost if he is a "winner" or going to be successful he won't give up and his day will come, or give up and try something else.
You forgot the ..." riddle me this Batman":D
What is luck???
Reminds me of an old movie quote about; "What is real?, If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain"

Old Texan
06-02-2007, 09:29 AM
Tex,
Winning the lottery is a result of hard work, good planning, and "intelligent" decision making coupled with perserverance,
And you refer to me a dope.
And I refered to you (as) a dope "Where"?
Winning the lottery is a mathmatical chance. There are odds involved as to the chance of a numerical sequence being picked. It has nothing to do with any mysterious outside force.
You're arguing some point now about "luck" actually being a "physical" or "astrophysical" entity? OK.......
In the Houston chronicle supplement section yesterday concerning hurricane preparedness they had an article on a fella named Bingo Cosby. Bingo is a 60 year old "Hippy" that has made his living building surf boards and has surfed the world. Bingo is a "righteous" born again christian that believes in karma, faith, and all sorts of that "type of thing". Gods of the waves and nature type of guy.
The point of the article was focused on people that won't leave the path of an oncoming hurricane to stress the point most deaths occur to those that don't leave. Makes sense to me. Bingo does not leave. He stays, perhaps moving off the shore 10 miles inland to his "land" house. He bragged he went to the beach 2 years ago when Rita was headed his way and "talked" with God on the beach and told him to send Rita to Louisiana. Rita came ashore in the Cameron/Lake Charles, LA area and Bingo and his surf shop were spared. Bingo claims he moved the hurricane away....
Go to the Chronicle website and you can read "Bingo's Tale".
Point is, was Bingo lucky? Did Bingo change the course of the strom and thus manipulate his fate? Or was it just another one of those mathmatical odds deals that the hurricane went where it went because the forces of nature controlled it?
John if you think winnig the lottery is akin to my definition of luck, that of hard work and good planning, you are wrong. I basically made a statement that luck is just a term and has no substance.
Dope, ah no....Dense, yeah, that may be a better term.....argumentative, definitely.
I just had a thought, if you were referring to the "Peace, love, dope" deal, reach back in your memory to old hippy sayings there Bubba......Always attaching your meanings to what others say ain't cha??????
Dope= Ganga, Mary Jane, Reefer, Marijuana. Get it?????? Refer back to dense now....:D (Disclaimer: no harm or intent to insult contained in this message:devil:)
Question: Since you apparently believe in "luck", how much of your investment portfolio to you include in the Lottery?

QuickJet
06-02-2007, 11:17 AM
Tex,
Winning the lottery is a result of hard work, good planning, and "intelligent" decision making coupled with perserverance,
And you refer to me a dope.
Faith is tangible because people donate in the name of their religious beliefs????
I already gave you an example. But here is another.
2 builders build the exact same product.(equal quality) Both work equally hard both and both are equally ethical. Donald Trump happens to notice the hard work of one of the builders and offers to finance a billion dollar project from which this builder nets ten million in profit.
Please refute with facts promised
F'n unvbelievable.
I was going to respond but it looks like Tex and Bigg did a masterfull job of it.
Lucky son of a bitches!!!

ULTRA26 # 1
06-02-2007, 01:42 PM
That is impossible. Trump makes a choice. A choice would involve a decision a decision a decision involves a judgment. Something about the unchosen he did not like, could have been a piece of food stuck in a tooth.
Not to mention the guy that lost if he is a "winner" or going to be successful he won't give up and his day will come, or give up and try something else.
You forgot the ..." riddle me this Batman":D
What is luck???
Reminds me of an old movie quote about; "What is real?, If real is what you can feel, smell, taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain"
Amazing that the only resposne to my example was That is impossible
Something about the unchosen he did not like,
Not the case.
Trump was only aware of the one that he chose. No loser, just an equal guy doing equals things, and one catches a break and one doesn't.
catches a break, chance, luck, it's all the same thing.
And I refered to you (as) a dope "Where"? .
Winning the lottery is a mathmatical chance. There are odds involved as to the chance of a numerical sequence being picked.
You're arguing some point now about "luck" actually being a "physical" or "astrophysical" entity
Games, more Tex games
In a game of chance the winner wouldn't be considered lucky?
Come on Tex, liie to all of us and tell us that there has never been a time in your life when you felt lucky.
Did I say anything that resembled "physical" or "astrophysical" entity
Tex if I said the sky was blue you would find a way to say I was wrong.
I would imagine that the vast majority would agree with my definition of luck, but not you. But then, I shouldn't expect anything different from someone who still plays follow the leader.
Peace Dope

Steve 1
06-02-2007, 04:02 PM
Back to this dangerous bitch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g

Forkin' Crazy
06-02-2007, 04:23 PM
Tex if I said the sky was blue you would find a way to say I was wrong.
I am thinking you would do the same! :jawdrop:
Peace Dope
What? No love? You must be bitter from your lack of "luck". LOL!:idea:

MWJSOne
06-02-2007, 04:34 PM
The Bush Swan song
The Kenndy wet dream comes true 12 to 24 million free loaders get the Z Visa crashing the US econinmy
2 months before Bush leaves Invades Iran
Hillery Voted in major US city Nuked she moves to start North American Union
any and all natural citizens no longer have bill of rights middle class distoryed massive tax incresse,guns grabbed if you fight back your jailed with no rights re education camps/work camps
Back to this dangerous bitch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g

ULTRA26 # 1
06-02-2007, 05:06 PM
I am thinking you would do the same! :jawdrop:
What? No love? You must be bitter from your lack of "luck". LOL!:idea:
I'm thinking not. Again, nope! Not bitter at all. I think I'm a lucky man.
Love??? Hmmm. Is love tangible????? Faith.???? Hmmm Is Faith tangible????? Old Texan??? Hmmm. Is an old Texan tangible???? A broken record?? Hmmm. Is a broken record tangible????
The score is two to two.
You'all are hopeless.
Peace

Old Texan
06-02-2007, 09:03 PM
Tex if I said the sky was blue you would find a way to say I was wrong.
"Lucky" guess there "Johnny Cakes", you're wrong because I don't believe the sky is blue in "Your" world.........:devil:

Old Texan
06-02-2007, 09:13 PM
I'm thinking not. Again, nope! Not bitter at all. I think I'm a lucky man.
Love??? Hmmm. Is love tangible????? Faith.???? Hmmm Is Faith tangible????? Old Texan??? Hmmm. Is an old Texan tangible???? A broken record?? Hmmm. Is a broken record tangible????
The score is two to two.
You'all are hopeless.
Peace
You choose to debate if "Luck" is real and "We" are hopeless???????:confused:
I'd bet if you ever get a wrong number when making a phonecall, that you argue with the person on the other end that they answered the wrong phone and "YOU" actually called the right number......In "Ultra John's Utopian World", Ultra John is "always" right!!!!:D

Old Texan
06-02-2007, 09:21 PM
Back to this dangerous bitch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1PfE9K8j0g
I bet Chelsey always wondered where all the money went in her Piggy Bank....:confused:
Curious how Hildabeast can justify how the money of publicly traded corporations can be determined to be "Hers" to do with as "She" chooses, rather than the rightful owners?:mad:
Anyone running against her should use this clip as a campaign ad. The woman is dangerous and this 1 clip shows true Socialist intent.
The United States would be very unlucky if this woman ever gains higher office, methinks........

QuickJet
06-02-2007, 11:38 PM
Amazing that the only resposne to my example was That is impossible
Something about the unchosen he did not like,
Not the case.
Trump was only aware of the one that he chose. No loser, just an equal guy doing equals things, and one catches a break and one doesn't.
catches a break, chance, luck, it's all the same thing.
I wouldn't call it luck, catching a break, or chance. I'd call it a payoff for hard work.
Your "trump" example makes no sense.
What can be construde as mear luck by an imbicile is seen as nothing more than an explainable occurance by those who know better.

ULTRA26 # 1
06-03-2007, 05:06 AM
"Lucky" guess there "Johnny Cakes", you're wrong because I don't believe the sky is blue in "Your" world.........:devil:
Tex,
Brilliant. You must have forgot your meds again.
Shame on you.
You choose to debate if "Luck" is real and "We" are hopeless???????:confused:
Yes you are hopeless.
None of you who are arguing can provide an explanation.
Here is another. Two guys buy one lottery ticket each. One wins and the other doesn't. Please explain
Here is another
4th grade class has a jelly bean contest. A fish tank is full of jelly beans. Each kid gets one chance to guess the number of jelly beans in the tank to win a bunny rabbit. One kid out of thirty guesses 22,358 which is exactly the number of jelly beans in the tank and wins the bunny rabbit. Please explain
Chance??? Karma???? Destiny???? The winner as better at math????
The winner had the best eyes???? the winner was a sevant????
Here is another
I am at the top of a ten story build. I look over the edge and down below there are a group of 30 people. Not aiming at any one person, I drop a penny right over the group of people and the penny hits one person in the head. Please explain
Are you really too narrow to admit that things happen all around us all of the time which can't be explained? Or is it that you have nothing better to do than argue.
OJ, asked me to give him an example of luck and he would refute with facts. I gave him one, and now a total of four examples.
Refute with facts or shut the F**k up.
BTW, I heard that sale at Walmart was extended through today, Better hurry.
Peace
I wouldn't call it luck, catching a break, or chance. I'd call it a payoff for hard work.
Your "trump" example makes no sense.
What can be construde as mear luck by an imbicile is seen as nothing more than an explainable occurance by those who know better.
Then explain it to the imbecile ho sees it as luck. The problem is that there is no explanation.
BTW, the example makes perfect sense. If it's just a payoff for hard work, than why aren't the two equal guys paid off equally. Right place at the right time??? Chance???? Luck???? Karma???
I'm not going to argue this issue any further with you and your inept little friends unless you refute with facts as you've promised to do.

Old Texan
06-03-2007, 05:59 AM
I'm not going to argue this issue any further with you and your inept little friends.
Oh boo hoo, Mr. School Mom is stressed out again.
You start an off topic debate about "nothing" and then run off mad because no sense can be made of your position?????
Look here lil' Mr., this kind of stuff might be the way they do things in the world you come from, but it "Just don't go around here......":devil:
John did you skip math class? Do you understand odds? If you pick a number between 1 and 100, what are the mathmatical odds you can randomly pick the number drawn from a hat?
Explain gambling in Vegas, why are there odds placed on table games? Luck is a random occurance of chance?
Now after your little temper tirade, which you are getting famous for in addition to your fixation with Walmart, which is your attempt at talking down at us, a fine example of showing your arrogance I might add, please explain to everyone what is your defintion of "Luck". You are givng the impression by your little "quizzes" that you believe there is some "force" controlling "luck" and "luck" is actually more than "chance".

ULTRA26 # 1
06-03-2007, 06:18 AM
Oh boo hoo, Mr. School Mom is stressed out again.
You start an off topic debate about "nothing" and then run off mad because no sense can be made of your position?????
Look here lil' Mr., this kind of stuff might be the way they do things in the world you come from, but it "Just don't go around here......":devil:
The problem is that you aren't bright enough to refute with facts.
Tex go take a nap and try again.
Look here lil' Mr., this kind of stuff might be the way they do things in the world you come from, but it "Just don't go around here......":
You make me laugh Tex. Are you going expell me?? :D :D :D :D
Since you added to your resposne, I will continue.
This has not been a discussion of odds. But since you mention it here is another example.
Numbers 1 through 100 are in a hat. 100 people draw a number from the hat. only one winner. Please explain the factual basis for the person who drew the correct number.
Please refute with facts or STFU.
Like I said, go take a nap and try again. :) :)

Forkin' Crazy
06-03-2007, 06:49 AM
I'm not going to argue this issue any further with you and your inept little friends unless you refute with facts as you've promised to do.
Interesting. We'll see how long this lasts. I bet about the length of time it takes my coffee to get cold. :rolleyes:

QuickJet
06-03-2007, 09:17 AM
Tex,
Here is another. Two guys buy one lottery ticket each. One wins and the other doesn't. Please explain.
One guy picked the winning numbers and one didn't. Too easy. I bet if you looked at the lottery tickets they would have different numbers.
4th grade class has a jelly bean contest. A fish tank is full of jelly beans. Each kid gets one chance to guess the number of jelly beans in the tank to win a bunny rabbit. One kid out of thirty guesses 22,358 which is exactly the number of jelly beans in the tank and wins the bunny rabbit. Please explain.
That's even easier, he picked the right amount of jelly beans.
I am at the top of a ten story build. I look over the edge and down below there are a group of 30 people. Not aiming at any one person, I drop a penny right over the group of people and the penny hits one person in the head. Please explain .
Easy, the person was standing under the area where wind and gravity brought the penny.
Are you really too narrow to admit that things happen all around us all of the time which can't be explained? Or is it that you have nothing better to do than argue.
OJ, asked me to give him an example of luck and he would refute with facts. I gave him one, and now a total of four examples.
Refute with facts or shut the F**k up. .
None of your examples are examples of luck. I'm waiting for one.
You are the type of person who is "feeling lucky" and goes to Vegas and looses $10,000 playing Black Jack. You think it's all because your so called luck must have turned that you lost and then you leave. YOu never think that you sat in the wrong chair (first seat), never payed attention to what cards were laid down to the other players, or you went one on one with the dealer. You think it was bad luck, not bad playing. Dealers have bad hands too. Sometimes so much that even someone who isn't that bright can win. that doesn't happen often since the Casinos are built with millions while your house is built with thousands.
owners know the odds, idiots think they have luck....look who wins.
Everything is run by numbers and mathmatics. Everything from a penny landing on someone's head to a kid getting the correct amount of jelly beans in a contest.
War
P.S. I'm not arguing with you, just heplping you make yourself look stupid.
Pretty damn easy.
Guess I'm lucky like that.
War

Old Texan
06-03-2007, 11:43 AM
One guy picked the winning numbers and one didn't. Too easy. I bet if you looked at the lottery tickets they would have different numbers.
That's even easier, he picked the right amount of jelly beans.
Easy, the person was standing under the area where wind and gravity brought the penny.
None of your examples are examples of luck. I'm waiting for one.
You are the type of person who is "feeling lucky" and goes to Vegas and looses $10,000 playing Black Jack. You think it's all because your so called luck must have turned that you lost and then you leave. YOu never think that you sat in the wrong chair (first seat), never payed attention to what cards were laid down to the other players, or you went one on one with the dealer. You think it was bad luck, not bad playing. Dealers have bad hands too. Sometimes so much that even someone who isn't that bright can win. that doesn't happen often since the Casinos are built with millions while your house is built with thousands.
owners know the odds, idiots think they have luck....look who wins.
Everything is run by numbers and mathmatics. Everything from a penny landing on someone's head to a kid getting the correct amount of jelly beans in a contest.
War
P.S. I'm not arguing with you, just heplping you make yourself look stupid.
Pretty damn easy.
Guess I'm lucky like that.
War
Well "Johnny Cakes" since I don't want to cut into my nap time and I ain't ever gonna STFU because some arrogant "Donkey Party" dipshit ordered me too, I'm gonna just go with what QuickJet has replied SEE ABOVE. He's put your answers in front of you. I answered your off topic questions regarding "luck" but your density again prevails and you just pick out what you want to read and avoid anything factual. Different day, same story.
John we aren't falling for your game. We all know your just off on this "luck" tangent to change the focus from the topic of the Thread: "HildaBeast"
She gets elected John, you ain't gotta sleep with her, but you gotta live with her.......:eek: :2purples:

ULTRA26 # 1
06-03-2007, 12:06 PM
One guy picked the winning numbers and one didn't. Too easy. I bet if you looked at the lottery tickets they would have different numbers.
That's even easier, he picked the right amount of jelly beans.
Easy, the person was standing under the area where wind and gravity brought the penny.
None of your examples are examples of luck. I'm waiting for one.
You are the type of person who is "feeling lucky" and goes to Vegas and looses $10,000 playing Black Jack. You think it's all because your so called luck must have turned that you lost and then you leave. YOu never think that you sat in the wrong chair (first seat), never payed attention to what cards were laid down to the other players, or you went one on one with the dealer. You think it was bad luck, not bad playing. Dealers have bad hands too. Sometimes so much that even someone who isn't that bright can win. that doesn't happen often since the Casinos are built with millions while your house is built with thousands.
owners know the odds, idiots think they have luck....look who wins.
Everything is run by numbers and mathmatics. Everything from a penny landing on someone's head to a kid getting the correct amount of jelly beans in a contest.
War
P.S. I'm not arguing with you, just heplping you make yourself look stupid.
Pretty damn easy.
Guess I'm lucky like that.
War
Thanks I appreciate your help.
Well "Johnny Cakes" since I don't want to cut into my nap time and I ain't ever gonna STFU because some arrogant "Donkey Party" dipshit ordered me too, I'm gonna just go with what QuickJet has replied SEE ABOVE. He's put your answers in front of you. I answered your off topic questions regarding "luck" but your density again prevails and you just pick out what you want to read and avoid anything factual. Different day, same story.
John we aren't falling for your game. We all know your just off on this "luck" tangent to change the focus from the topic of the Thread: "HildaBeast"
She gets elected John, you ain't gotta sleep with her, but you gotta live with her.......:eek: :2purples:
Why would I want change the Hilary topic. I can't stand the HAG. Hilary winning the Democratic ticket would be the best thing that could ever happen to the GOP, as they actually have a chance to beat this dingbat. You should hope she is the Dem nominee. I'm thinking that the Dem ticket will be Gore/Obama, which is a sure winner.
Have a nice day all
Peace

QuickJet
06-03-2007, 01:37 PM
Thanks I appreciate your help.
I'm thinking that the Dem ticket ill be Gore/Obama, which is a sure winner.
Have a nice day all
Peace
So you are for higher taxes, more illegals, higher gas prices, luxury taxes on your boat and Lightining, more terror attacts, a defunded military, guns only for the criminals and killers, lower economy, and a higher unemployment rate? Not to mention more do as I say NOT as I do politics.
Now I know why you rely so much on luck, you have no chance by using your intellegence.

ULTRA26 # 1
06-03-2007, 02:55 PM
So you are for higher taxes, more illegals, higher gas prices, luxury taxes on your boat and Lightining, more terror attacts, a defunded military, guns only for the criminals and killers, lower economy, and a higher unemployment rate? Not to mention more do as I say NOT as I do politics.
Now I know why you rely so much on luck, you have no chance by using your intellegence.
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. I am for an end to the war, and some intelligence in Govt, which something we surely don't have now. Seems that the only thing we haven't experianced under Bush is higher taxes. The national debt is now nearly 9 trillion. Good job GOP :rolleyes:
Peace

QuickJet
06-03-2007, 03:38 PM
The sky is falling, the sky is falling. I am for an end to the war, and some intelligence in Govt, which something we surely don't have now. Seems that the only thing we haven't experianced under Bush is higher taxes. The national debt is now nearly 9 trillion. Good job GOP :rolleyes:
Peace
Sky is falling???...Oh you must have just watched Al Gore's "An inconveinient Truth". That or you are watching the Democrat debate.
All that debt and a kick ass economy. This economy rivals the best of the "Non war" economies.
Bush has the economy and the war right, he lacks boarder security.
Why end a war that we are kicking some serious Raghead ass in?
Maybe after Iran..............http://***boat.com/ubb/graemlins/idea_2.gif
War

ULTRA26 # 1
06-03-2007, 06:31 PM
Sky is falling???...Oh you must have just watched Al Gore's "An inconveinient Truth". That or you are watching the Democrat debate.
All that debt and a kick ass economy. This economy rivals the best of the "Non war" economies.
Bush has the economy and the war right, he lacks boarder security.
Why end a war that we are kicking some serious Raghead ass in?
Maybe after Iran..............http://***boat.com/ubb/graemlins/idea_2.gif
War
All that debt and a kick ass economy
The sad part you actually believe this sh**.
Why end a war that we are kicking some serious Raghead ass in?
Because American men and women are losing their lives. Obviously you don't care about that now do you.
I have nothing else to say to you

QuickJet
06-03-2007, 11:06 PM
The sad part you actually believe this sh**.
I don't just belive it, I'm living it.
Because American men and women are losing their lives. Obviously you don't care about that now do you.
650,000 to 3,500 looks like a pretty good score card. What if we bailed out of WW2 when we were at the 3,500 mark?
Quit being a pussy...........
War

Old Texan
06-04-2007, 04:46 AM
Obama has already shown intent to bail out auto industry pension funds which are in jeopardy from poor contract negotiations through the decades by the UAW.
He's also big on socilized medicine, another high cost item to the working taxpayer.
Gore is an idiot of mammouth proportions and Obama is a Socialist. Get ready for out of sight inflation and record high taxes with this pair.
Does the party have anyone that isn't socialist leaning?????