What was Ford thinking

[H20 Toie]

I have an 08 f450 superduty and the engine light came on with less then 2k miles so i took it to the dealer.
It turns out that if you exceed 81 miles an hour that will happen WTF
Maybe it might be a good idea to mention that in the owners manual. now if you have an F250 it is 95mph
guess i will have to get use to driving with the engine light on :(

[little rowe boat]

Take the bulb out.

[Havasu1986]

Can you reset it. :confused:

[27 Awesome cat]

I also heard the light will come on if you let the sprinklers wash it down:D

[Coded-Dude]

Won't they(california) NOT smog it, if the engine light is on?

[Xlration Marine]

Check this out. A guy I worked with bought a truck. Well he found black shoe polish over the check engine light. Guess the owner never got used to seeing it, so he just covered it up. Now Thats funny.

[dumbandyoung]

Slow Down!:D

[HM]

I think they call that the idiot light. :D

[STLRFAN]

Won't they(california) NOT smog it, if the engine light is on?
Very true, but since it's Diesel you dont have to get a smog check :D

[Coded-Dude]

Make sure the Check Engine light is not illuminated. A constantly illuminated Check Engine light is an automatic smog failure. A certified repair shop can diagnose the check engine light condition and offer you an evaluation and estimate. The home mechanic may also diagnose a Check Engine light malfunction via special Check Engine codes retrieval tools, available at most auto parts stores.
[EDIT]Well then.....nevermind :)

[GRUNION]

thats gay

[WYRD]

Very true, but since it's Diesel you dont have to get a smog check :D
pretty sure new 07 and above you do in Cali

[AZJD]

Just did well over 91mph in the new Chevy and no lights! Not even the ones on top of another car!:D :D :D
Oh shit, the fuel light did come on...................

[racecar.hotshoe]

F..ound
O..n
R..oad
D..ead
:D :D ....or
D..river
R..eturned
O..n
F..oot

[RitcheyRch]

Thats the problem. He bought a FORD. :D
Just did well over 91mph in the new Chevy and no lights! Not even the ones on top of another car!:D :D :D
Oh shit, the fuel light did come on...................

[AZKC]

Isn't this the same model truck that you have to take the cab off to work on it:rolleyes:

[OverKill]

F..ound
O..n
R..oad
D..ead
:D :D ....or
D..river
R..eturned
O..n
F..oot
F**CKED
OVER
RECYCLED
DODGE

[76ANTHONY]

I have an 08 f450 superduty and the engine light came on with less then 2k miles so i took it to the dealer.
It turns out that if you exceed 81 miles an hour that will happen WTF
Maybe it might be a good idea to mention that in the owners manual. now if you have an F250 it is 95mph
guess i will have to get use to driving with the engine light on :(
dam ballers, i cant afford to go 77 in my ranger what are you bitchin bout?:D :D

[Boozer]

Don't most of the performance tuners have the ability to reset codes?

[Boozer]

Don't most of the performance tuners have the ability to reset codes?

[RiverRatMike]

Dead
Or
Dieing
Garbage
Everywhere

[pw_Tony]

F. found
O. on
R. river
D. dead

[73kona455]

C .. Cracked
H... Heads
E... Every
V .. Valve
R .. Rattles
O .. Oil
L .. Leaks
E .. Every
T .. Time
:) :)

[Quest4Fun]

I have an 08 f450 superduty and the engine light came on with less then 2k miles so i took it to the dealer.
It turns out that if you exceed 81 miles an hour that will happen WTF
Maybe it might be a good idea to mention that in the owners manual. now if you have an F250 it is 95mph
guess i will have to get use to driving with the engine light on :(
O.K., this is coming from a chick, but isn't that the same idea as putting a governer on it without actually cutting off your speed? We have a friend with an Escalade and he said he can't go over 90 or 95 because it has a governer on it.
I guess Ford just wants you to be safe and not...
First
On
Race
Day
:D
:D

[RitcheyRch]

Can
Have
Every
Virgin
Reach
Orgasmic
Level
Each
Time
:D
C .. Cracked
H... Heads
E... Every
V .. Valve
R .. Rattles
O .. Oil
L .. Leaks
E .. Every
T .. Time
:) :)

[blown65]

I have an 08 f450 superduty and the engine light came on with less then 2k miles so i took it to the dealer.
It turns out that if you exceed 81 miles an hour that will happen WTF
Maybe it might be a good idea to mention that in the owners manual. now if you have an F250 it is 95mph
guess i will have to get use to driving with the engine light on :(
I know mine has a mph limiter but Ive passed someone and was right on it the whole way passing, never got a light, guess I didnt go 82. lol

[HYPNAUTIC]

How about...
Buy Chevy there the BEST. Drive a mile walk the REST!!

[STLRFAN]

pretty sure new 07 and above you do in Cali
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm
Smog Information
Currently, smog inspections are required for all vehicles except diesel powered vehicles, electric, natural gas powered vehicles over 14,000 lbs, hybrids, motorcycles, trailers, or vehicles 1975 and older.
Vehicles registered in areas subject to the biennial smog certification program are required to submit evidence of a smog certification every other renewal period. Owners of vehicles six or less model years old will pay an annual smog abatement fee for the first six registration years instead of being required to provide a biennial smog certification. The registration renewal notice mailed to you by the department will indicate if a smog certification is required. If a smog certification is required and you have not had a smog inspection, you may still pay your registration fees to avoid any late fees. However, you will not receive your new registration or year sticker until the smog information has been received by DMV.
NOTE: Upon initial registration, nonresident and specially constructed vehicles 1976 and newer require smog certification. The six or less model years old rule does not apply to these vehicles.
When you transfer a vehicle that is four or less model years old a smog certification is not required. A smog transfer fee will be collected from the new owner. When a vehicle is more than four model years old, a seller must provide evidence of a current smog certification except when one of the following occurs:
The transfer occurs between a spouse, sibling, child, parent, grandparent, or grandchild.
A biennial smog certification was submitted to DMV within 90 days prior to the vehicle transfer date (a vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification).
Smog certifications are good for 90 days from the date of issuance.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?
Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:
Hybrid
1975 year model or older
Diesel powered
Electric
Natural gas powered and has a Gross Vehicle Weight rating of 14,001 lbs. or more.
Motorcycle
Trailer

[CRZYBTCH]

[QUOTE=H20 Toie;2590793]I have an 08 f450 superduty and the engine light came on with less then 2k miles so i took it to the dealer.
It turns out that if you exceed 81 miles an hour that will happen WTF
Maybe it might be a good idea to mention that in the owners manual. now if you have an F250 it is 95mph
guess i will have to get use to driving with the engine light on :([/QUO
Ford does that because in order to make it 1st in class for payload and towing other adjustments had to be made and if you are towing @ the max or have max payload and you are going 81 mph or faster then you cannot stop in a safe amount of time. The restriction is for saftey reasons.

[Miss Perfect]

Ford does that because in order to make it 1st in class for payload and towing other adjustments had to be made and if you are towing @ the max or have max payload and you are going 81 mph or faster then you cannot stop in a safe amount of time. The restriction is for saftey reasons.
Wow.... for a porn star you sure do know a lot about Fords. :notam:

[Jbb]

Wow.... for a porn star you sure do know a lot about Fords. :notam:
MP ...stop hating.....:D

[Miss Perfect]

MP ...stop hating.....:D
You forgot to say RD Sux :D

[Jbb]

You forgot to say RD Sux :D
RD SUX....:D

[Danhercules]

C.H.E.V.Y. stands for QUALITY

[Wet Dream]

The Chevy guys that are bashing Ford really aren't that smart. Just about every GM vehilce has an EVENT DATA RECORDER, and you can't access it. Only the dealer can, and in the event of an accident, your data can be evidence in court if you get sued. Do you want a towel for that egg on your face?

[WYRD]

Wow.... for a porn star you sure do know a lot about Fords. :notam:
Just cause he has the biggest porn collection in his town doesnt classify him as a star:rolleyes: ;)

[WYRD]

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/vr/smogfaq.htm
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Does my vehicle qualify for a smog exemption?
Smog inspections are required unless your vehicle is:
Hybrid
1975 year model or older
Diesel powered
Electric
Natural gas powered and has a Gross Vehicle Weight rating of 14,001 lbs. or more.
Motorcycle
Trailer
wasnt saying youre wrong I just heard they were going to start smoging diesel engines:)

[BoatFloating]

Dan, instead of saying what was Ford thinking it should have been what was I thinking buying a Ford..... I thought getting divorced got rid of all headaches.... So why would you marry another one...:D

[RaceFace]

Just cause he has the biggest porn collection in his town doesnt classify him as a star:rolleyes: ;)
I was thinking the same thing......with Cheetos fingerprints over the whole collection!!
Pretty knowledgable 18yr old wanna be thrust puppet!!

[H20 Toie]

Dan, instead of saying what was Ford thinking it should have been what was I thinking buying a Ford..... I thought getting divorced got rid of all headaches.... So why would you marry another one...:D
Well lets see what are my options, i wanted a four wheel drive and since Chevy seems to not be able to figure out how to build a front end that will hold up longer than 40k miles ( i have had a 99 Sub and 03 Hummer) then if you go with a Dodge you had better have midgets to ride in the back seat ( yes they have a mega cab but that only comes with a short bed) Looks like i will be keeping the 05 f350 for longer than i had planned.

[76ANTHONY]

Well lets see what are my options, i wanted a four wheel drive and since Chevy seems to not be able to figure out how to build a front end that will hold up longer than 40k miles ( i have had a 99 Sub and 03 Hummer) then if you go with a Dodge you had better have midgets to ride in the back seat ( yes they have a mega cab but that only comes with a short bed) Looks like i will be keeping the 05 f350 for longer than i had planned.
BALLER...:D

[76ANTHONY]

Well lets see what are my options, i wanted a four wheel drive and since Chevy seems to not be able to figure out how to build a front end that will hold up longer than 40k miles ( i have had a 99 Sub and 03 Hummer) then if you go with a Dodge you had better have midgets to ride in the back seat ( yes they have a mega cab but that only comes with a short bed) Looks like i will be keeping the 05 f350 for longer than i had planned.
BALLER...:D

[blown65]

[QUOTE=H20 Toie;2590793]I have an 08 f450 superduty and the engine light came on with less then 2k miles so i took it to the dealer.
It turns out that if you exceed 81 miles an hour that will happen WTF
Maybe it might be a good idea to mention that in the owners manual. now if you have an F250 it is 95mph
guess i will have to get use to driving with the engine light on :([/QUO
Ford does that because in order to make it 1st in class for payload and towing other adjustments had to be made and if you are towing @ the max or have max payload and you are going 81 mph or faster then you cannot stop in a safe amount of time. The restriction is for saftey reasons.
I'm not entirely sure thats correct, from my understanding its because the 19.5" tires arent rated for it. Just like my POS GM topkick was limited to about the same MPH.

[Magic34]

I'm not entirely sure thats correct, from my understanding its because the 19.5" tires arent rated for it. Just like my POS GM topkick was limited to about the same MPH.
Another happy 4500 owner. :D I'm surprised that you got it up to the govenor speed anyways. Oh wait, I did it going downhill too.
You have to check out this thread. Some guys love them. I got a little beat up because I told them the truck sucked.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158969

[Sleek-Jet]

Well lets see what are my options, i wanted a four wheel drive and since Chevy seems to not be able to figure out how to build a front end that will hold up longer than 40k miles ( i have had a 99 Sub and 03 Hummer) then if you go with a Dodge you had better have midgets to ride in the back seat ( yes they have a mega cab but that only comes with a short bed) Looks like i will be keeping the 05 f350 for longer than i had planned.
Funny... I've got 180K on my Chevy 4WD and no front end problems...

[Desert Rat]

CHEVROLET STANDS FOR:
Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques

[blown65]

Another happy 4500 owner. :D I'm surprised that you got it up to the govenor speed anyways. Oh wait, I did it going downhill too.
You have to check out this thread. Some guys love them. I got a little beat up because I told them the truck sucked.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158969
Yup, love it to death. and no, never tested the 81 or whatever the governor is on that thing. Hell, we love it so much we have 5 different suits against them and the dealer. :D

[Magic34]

Yup, love it to death. and no, never tested the 81 or whatever the governor is on that thing. Hell, we love it so much we have 5 different suits against them and the dealer. :D
Can you throw my name on that too? I'm in with you. :D I'd like to recoup some of the $15k I lost on it in 5 months.

[H20 Toie]

Funny... I've got 180K on my Chevy 4WD and no front end problems...
On my 88 1 ton crew cab and 90 blazer i never had a problem either but both trucks that have the ifs front ends started a little shaking right around 40k and both had stock wheels and tires. replace the tie rods or idler arms ( i dont remember which) and all better.

[Sleek-Jet]

On my 88 1 ton crew cab and 90 blazer i never had a problem either but both trucks that have the ifs front ends started a little shaking right around 40k and both had stock wheels and tires. replace the tie rods or idler arms ( i dont remember which) and all better.
93 Blazer... full size... though it's getting time I do something with the front end.

[plaster dave]

Well lets see what are my options, i wanted a four wheel drive and since Chevy seems to not be able to figure out how to build a front end that will hold up longer than 40k miles ( i have had a 99 Sub and 03 Hummer) then if you go with a Dodge you had better have midgets to ride in the back seat ( yes they have a mega cab but that only comes with a short bed) Looks like i will be keeping the 05 f350 for longer than i had planned.
Don’t compare those to your f450 that is not fair. I have 04' 2500 duramax 4x4 that has 63k with not one problem on the front end or truck for that matter.

[Magic34]

Don’t compare those to your f450 that is not fair. I have 04' 2500 duramax 4x4 that has 63k with not one problem on the front end or truck for that matter.
The front end of my truck barely sits on the ground when the boat is hooked up. So, my front end should last 300k+.

[STLRFAN]

wasnt saying youre wrong I just heard they were going to start smoging diesel engines:)
I heard that too... So I just wanted to double check

[blown65]

Can you throw my name on that too? I'm in with you. :D I'd like to recoup some of the $15k I lost on it in 5 months.
no shit, 1200 a month payments plus insurance on a truck they cant fix that is sitting at the dealer for 5 months now. Such a great thing. Pretty sure for me its the last GM vehicle for a while. (Just got a Jeep SRT8 and canned my Caddy)

[blown65]

Don’t compare those to your f450 that is not fair. I have 04' 2500 duramax 4x4 that has 63k with not one problem on the front end or truck for that matter.
You cant compare a 2500hd dmax to a F450. Ive had both and there is no way a 2500 can come close to hauling what the 450 does. Even the 3500 cant do it. Your stuck with the TopCraps of GMs. (Probably why its rumored they are selling that part off to International.) GM and Medium duty is two words that should never go together.

[plaster dave]

You cant compare a 2500hd dmax to a F450. Ive had both and there is no way a 2500 can come close to hauling what the 450 does. Even the 3500 cant do it. Your stuck with the TopCraps of GMs. (Probably why its rumored they are selling that part off to International.) GM and Medium duty is two words that should never go together.
I agree 100% but don’t say my hummer and my Sub. are crap but my f 450 is the shit two different type of animals. :D GM hummer and Sub. are passenger SUV and well a Ford is for Work.” look at there interiors":) J/K guys.

[RaceFace]

no shit, 1200 a month payments plus insurance on a truck they cant fix that is sitting at the dealer for 5 months now. Such a great thing. Pretty sure for me its the last GM vehicle for a while. (Just got a Jeep SRT8 and canned my Caddy)
I've got a good one for you. My buddy JUST picked up a new 1/2 crew GMC 4x4. He lifted it, wheels and tires....all the stuff he wanted to do. Driving home 2 weeks ago....it just dies. Wont turn over...nothing. Tows it home and calls local dealer...they tow it in the next day. This truck has 900 miles on it. Turns out the oil pump took a dump. He goes to see it in the shop. Its up on the lift and the oil pan is on the ground. He sees the messed up oil pump shaft and sees a bunch of metal shaving in his oil pan. The tech showed it all to him. Tech also said "no way I would accept this truck back with this motor in it".
His thought, my thought, and everyone else around says "new motor". Metal shavings throughout that motor definately shorten the life of it. GM says "no new motor, new oil pump, and enjoy your truck!" He went up the ladder of GM for days.....bottom line, they wouldnt pull that motor, no matter what. The f***ing thing didnt even make it to the first oil change!!!
GM's handling of this pretty much sealed the deal for me. I will not buy another GM product. They don't give a rats ass about happy customers.
I sure hope I dont need a new truck anytime soon....I have no idea what I would buy...but it wont be a GM. :mad: :mad:

[Sleek-Jet]

I've got a good one for you. My buddy JUST picked up a new 1/2 crew GMC 4x4. He lifted it, wheels and tires....all the stuff he wanted to do. Driving home 2 weeks ago....it just dies. Wont turn over...nothing. Tows it home and calls local dealer...they tow it in the next day. This truck has 900 miles on it. Turns out the oil pump took a dump. He goes to see it in the shop. Its up on the lift and the oil pan is on the ground. He sees the messed up oil pump shaft and sees a bunch of metal shaving in his oil pan. The tech showed it all to him. Tech also said "no way I would accept this truck back with this motor in it".
His thought, my thought, and everyone else around says "new motor". Metal shavings throughout that motor definately shorten the life of it. GM says "no new motor, new oil pump, and enjoy your truck!" He went up the ladder of GM for days.....bottom line, they wouldnt pull that motor, no matter what. The f***ing thing didnt even make it to the first oil change!!!
GM's handling of this pretty much sealed the deal for me. I will not buy another GM product. They don't give a rats ass about happy customers.
I sure hope I dont need a new truck anytime soon....I have no idea what I would buy...but it wont be a GM. :mad: :mad:
I've got a few buddies with some F350's with the same problem...
Factory service sucks anymore, doesn't matter what emblem is on the hood...

[blown65]

I agree 100% but don’t say my hummer and my Sub. are crap but my f 450 is the shit two different type of animals. :D GM hummer and Sub. are passenger SUV and well a Ford is for Work.” look at there interiors":) J/K guys.
Actually my dad has had 3 H2's and I liked all three. (puts like 30k miles a yr on them) Personally I dont have much brand preference, cept my hate for GM now. Its just this deal with our topcrap that has totally pissed me off to GM.
Hell, some of the imports are more american made now. lol I guess Ill be looking at Jeeps and Fords before GM though, not to say if something GM has intrests me I wouldnt buy it.

[plaster dave]

Actually my dad has had 3 H2's and I liked all three. (puts like 30k miles a yr on them) Personally I dont have much brand preference, cept my hate for GM now. Its just this deal with our topcrap that has totally pissed me off to GM.
Hell, some of the imports are more american made now. lol I guess Ill be looking at Jeeps and Fords before GM though, not to say if something GM has intrests me I wouldnt buy it.
What happened to you with your Topkick? You can pm if you dont want to post it.

[PHOTOGLOU]

Very true, but since it's Diesel you dont have to get a smog check :D
Any Diesel produce after Jan 1 2007 needs a smog checkJUST like a gas motor.....

[PHOTOGLOU]

The Chevy guys that are bashing Ford really aren't that smart. Just about every GM vehilce has an EVENT DATA RECORDER, and you can't access it. Only the dealer can, and in the event of an accident, your data can be evidence in court if you get sued. Do you want a towel for that egg on your face?
THIS IS WRONG.... Yes almost every vehicle GM produces has a EVENT DATA RECORDER but it is to protect GM from being sued.... and to help them build safer vehicles.... I HAVE NOT HEARD OF 1 case being used by an involved party to go after an owner....

[PHOTOGLOU]

CHEVROLET STANDS FOR:
Constantly Having Every Vehicle Recalled Over Lousy Engineering Techniques
Wait what about the recall TOYOTA might might announce on the new Tundra due to Camshafts breaking AND THEY then need to replace the whole motor???? That is going to be one of the biggest recalls since the PINTO

[PHOTOGLOU]

Toyota Tundra may be recalled
Engine trouble on new Texas-made pickup could hurt quality reputation.
Christine Tierney / The Detroit News
Toyota Motor Corp. faces a costly setback in the biggest U.S. vehicle launch in its history after owners of its new Tundra pickup reported engine failures.
The Japanese automaker may recall Tundras equipped with 5.7-liter V-8s to replace the engines, a company spokesman said Wednesday.
The trouble with the Tundra's 5.7-liter engines, the most powerful engine available on the new pickup, is the latest in a series of recalls and problems that have dented Toyota's reputation.
The automaker set the industry standards for vehicle quality, but now seems to be straining to maintain top quality as it expands overseas, builds factories and hires thousands of new workers.
"It's really tough," said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. "Engine failure kills a car's ability to run and it's not a simple thing to fix."
Such a problem is also likely to affect residual values, he said.
Industry experts say Toyota is extremely vulnerable to negative publicity because of its prominence in the industry.
In the first quarter of 2007, Toyota overtook General Motors Corp. to become the world's leading automaker in terms of sales.
With the launch of the Tundra earlier this year, Toyota aims to double its share of the lucrative full-size pickup market, one of the few segments still dominated by the U.S. automakers.
Toyota officials characterize the Tundra launch as the most important introduction in the company's history in the United States.
The rollout has suffered delays and disappointments. For instance, the Tundra earned lower frontal crash scores than domestic rivals such as the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram.
But the engine problem is more damaging and could slow the vehicle's brisk sales momentum.
Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.
Still, Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines, although no injuries have been reported.
Toyota is now studying how many of the 30,000 5.7-liter engines it built are affected.
Toyota builds the Tundra pickup at assembly plants in Princeton, Ind., and San Antonio, Texas, and makes the engines in Alabama.
The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 new Tundras this year, compared with 124,508 previous-generation Tundras in 2006.
But U.S. automakers are holding their own in the pickup market, and GM has been successful with its new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks.
In contrast to their performance in the car market, where they have been pushed back by Japanese nameplates, American manufacturers account for more than 90 percent of full-size pickup sales, which totaled 2.2 million units in 2006.

[RitcheyRch]

Been a few reports of this on www.tundrasolutions.com
Toyota Tundra may be recalled
Engine trouble on new Texas-made pickup could hurt quality reputation.
Christine Tierney / The Detroit News
Toyota Motor Corp. faces a costly setback in the biggest U.S. vehicle launch in its history after owners of its new Tundra pickup reported engine failures.
The Japanese automaker may recall Tundras equipped with 5.7-liter V-8s to replace the engines, a company spokesman said Wednesday.
The trouble with the Tundra's 5.7-liter engines, the most powerful engine available on the new pickup, is the latest in a series of recalls and problems that have dented Toyota's reputation.
The automaker set the industry standards for vehicle quality, but now seems to be straining to maintain top quality as it expands overseas, builds factories and hires thousands of new workers.
"It's really tough," said Karl Brauer, editor of Edmunds.com, an automotive research Web site. "Engine failure kills a car's ability to run and it's not a simple thing to fix."
Such a problem is also likely to affect residual values, he said.
Industry experts say Toyota is extremely vulnerable to negative publicity because of its prominence in the industry.
In the first quarter of 2007, Toyota overtook General Motors Corp. to become the world's leading automaker in terms of sales.
With the launch of the Tundra earlier this year, Toyota aims to double its share of the lucrative full-size pickup market, one of the few segments still dominated by the U.S. automakers.
Toyota officials characterize the Tundra launch as the most important introduction in the company's history in the United States.
The rollout has suffered delays and disappointments. For instance, the Tundra earned lower frontal crash scores than domestic rivals such as the Ford F-150 and Dodge Ram.
But the engine problem is more damaging and could slow the vehicle's brisk sales momentum.
Company spokesman Bill Kwong said Toyota realized in February that there was a problem with the camshafts delivered by a supplier for the 5.7-liter engine, and the automaker ordered the necessary changes to production.
Still, Toyota has seen 20 cases of engine failure in trucks equipped with 5.7-liter engines, although no injuries have been reported.
Toyota is now studying how many of the 30,000 5.7-liter engines it built are affected.
Toyota builds the Tundra pickup at assembly plants in Princeton, Ind., and San Antonio, Texas, and makes the engines in Alabama.
The automaker hopes to sell 200,000 new Tundras this year, compared with 124,508 previous-generation Tundras in 2006.
But U.S. automakers are holding their own in the pickup market, and GM has been successful with its new Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks.
In contrast to their performance in the car market, where they have been pushed back by Japanese nameplates, American manufacturers account for more than 90 percent of full-size pickup sales, which totaled 2.2 million units in 2006.

[blown65]

What happened to you with your Topkick? You can pm if you dont want to post it.
Just a bunch of mechanical drive train issues. (transmission, converter, transfercase, driveline, rearend. ) Along with a vibration that they cant fix.

[plaster dave]

Just a bunch of mechanical drive train issues. (transmission, converter, transfercase, driveline, rearend. ) Along with a vibration that they cant fix.
That suck sorry about that.

[Wicked_Tahiti]

im so glade that my chevy wont taddle-tale on me like that:D