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MWJSOne
06-03-2007, 03:11 AM
What IS Happening to America? Have You Ever Pondered The Following . . .
Didn't you ever wonder why our borders are still wide open?
Didn't you ever wonder why our immigration laws are unenforced?
Didn't you ever wonder why CAFTA was passed in the House by two recanted votes after the time for voting had expired? Especially in light of the fact that most ordinary people would agree that NAFTA has been such a devastating failure for both Mexico and America.
Didn't you ever wonder why the Senate told 83% of 'We the People' to 'go to hell' when they passed the amnesty bill S. 2611 which will add 100 million people to America in the next ten years according to Dr. Robert Rector of the Heritage Institute. That number is a CONSERVATIVE estimate since statisticians extrapolated those numbers from the 2000 census to arrive at the totally bogus figures of 10-12 million illegals
How Dishonest and Corrupt IS our Congress?
Did you know that, in 1999 and 2000, presidential candidate and then president-elect Vicente Fox had a foreign relations aide who met with "almost 80 U.S. congressmen and senators during numerous trips and at several events." The aide, Fredo Arias-king, attests that: "With just over 50 of them, my colleagues and I spoke about immigration in some depth, as it is one of the important bilateral topics [for Mexico]."(51)
They found that: "American politicians are overwhelmingly pro-immigration, for a variety of reasons, and they do not always admit this to their constituents. Of those 50 legislators, 45 were unambiguously pro-immigration, even asking us at times to 'send more.' This was true of both Democrats and Republicans."(51)
His conclusions: "If an orgnizable mass of Americans comes to suspect that mass immigration from Latin America is being used by the political class to undermine their democracy and as a tool to liberate the political elites from the Jeffersonian and Madisonian constraints, then indeed we may witness a reaction-but hopefully not against the immigrants themselves, as they are also objects of elite manipulations in more than one country
Bush intends to end U.S. sovereignty in order to create the North American Union. The President is stealthily creating a unified continent wide economic and political entity similar to the European Union. He is following the blueprint laid out in a 2005 report entitled Building a North American Community: Report of an Independent Task Force, by the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) which was preceded in 2001 by CFR member Dr. Robert Pastor's book titled: Toward a North American Community: Lessons from the Old World for the New and several iterations in between.

MWJSOne
06-03-2007, 03:20 AM
Think it can`t happen its already in the works
http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/TreasonAbounds.html

CARLSON-JET
06-09-2007, 12:46 AM
Don't be a good Democrat, Don't be a good Republican.. BE a Good AMERICAN
(this includes libertarian, Reform, Green, socialist, Prohibition, peace and all political parties under the great umbrella called America)
I have to say this subject has not been picked apart or discussed thoroughly enough IMO. (sad really) There have been 5 or 6 posts with no or few replies. I find in many answers to other threads that we all seem to share very simliar ideas and concerns about this subject.
steve1 posted: North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court 06-19-2006 (0) replies
cdog posted: North American Union 04-23-2007 (1) reply
MWJSOne posted : North American Union 06-03-2007 (1) reply (I know, this thread :-) )
Highroller also posted a similar thread (But I lost it :hammer2: )
This is N O T a complete list.. just recent.
All these threads contain good reading.
This whole open border policy and rhetoric about passing border legislation among other political matters dealing with simliar issues have indeed insisted that I believe we are and have been under attack.
With the internet leading to the information age, this concept is growing more conclusive.
FDR put it so well:
THEY (WHO) SEEK TO ESTABLISH
SYSTEMS OF GOVERNMENT BASED ON
THE REGIMENTATION OF ALL HUMAN
BEINGS BY A HANDFUL OF INDIVIDUAL
RULERS CALL THIS A NEW ORDER
IT IS NOT NEW AND IT IS NOT ORDER
I am not and honestly really have never been into the conspiracy theory game. I'm not a radical (Practicing per say)
I'm going to be 40 in 26 days so I have alot of history I missed not living 80 years ago. I do pride myself in the fact that I actually read the paper as a paperboy starting at 12. (Seattle Times morning and Post inteligencer.evening Yes I was hungry) So I have honestly tried to keep myself informed including many books on american political history.
Is this concept of an Elite Few so far beyond the normal thinking that I should put it aside and just hope that this country plots a course to redemption. Where eventually we can all put our minds at rest about this sort of ideal? I'm honestly starting to have some really strange thoughts. :devil: R.B.

centerhill condor
06-09-2007, 04:35 AM
A democratic gov't goes through three phases of leadership:
1. the intellectuals; madison, jefferson, etc
2. the military
3. the crooks.
4. the end.
While I admire "W" he can't stop the bankers and "free for allers" from robbing the country blind. The US hasn't been run by Amercians for quite a while and there's nothing you can do about it on HB.

zudnic
06-09-2007, 10:50 AM
A democratic gov't goes through three phases of leadership:
1. the intellectuals; madison, jefferson, etc
2. the military
3. the crooks.
4. the end.
While I admire "W" he can't stop the bankers and "free for allers" from robbing the country blind. The US hasn't been run by Amercians for quite a while and there's nothing you can do about it on HB.
1.) Jefferson and his cabinet followers in congress got the nickname of Warhawks for a reason. Madison followed through with the debate Jefferson started, rid North America of British influence and free Canada with the War of 1812.
2.) Andrew Jackson and to the last of the Jackosian Presidents who's policies of manifest destiny and catering to the British over the south lead to the civil war. The Spanish American war, gained what, Cuba, Puerto Rica, et al
3.) Wilson and all demoncrats after him, three or more of which directly followed the economic ideals of Rhodes, maybe four not sure if Clinton as a Rhodes Scholar qualifies. Strength of spread of the British Empire, WWI, creation of the Legue of Nations picking up the pieces of the Ottoman empire, America into Asia, WWII being attacked by Japan, to Vietnam support of which by the US was to help prop up Frances dwindling empire, as well as modern troubles in Africa.Soviets in Eastern Europe, their piece of the WWII pie, Where did Iraq come from and ties into the Middle East, Soviets trying to take over in the 70's, more directly then they where in South East Asia, India and Pakistan, heck even Ghana's trouble's to appeasement ignoring Hitler. Profiting from oil for food, liberals following the backstabbers.
This is nothing new in history!!!

MWJSOne
06-10-2007, 04:39 AM
This past week we have seen the Buy the Illeagels a New Mustang bill go down in Flames.The battle is not won they plan in another 2 weeks to bring it
back for another vote they did the same with NAFTA they want this bill passed.Calls to congress must continue Mexico is banking on this law to pass
get ready to Tar and feather these A-Hole`s in DC if we have to.The press said the American Public thru a trantrum and now needs a spanking lets show the press a real fit!:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil: