who in so.cal corona area.tune/up recomindation?

[mouzer]

Ive got a 1989 150 black max merc outboard..i need a water pump changed and a basic tune up,and lower end fluid changed....or should i do it myself..how much does this run? and who should i take it to in the so ca. corona/riverside area....

[Sherpa]

impeller pump kit might run about 45-50 bucks.
lower unit fluid is probably sub 20 bucks total.
tune up-?? like changing plugs which is maybe the only thing to
"tune" on an outboard......
maybe the fuel filter...
plugs aren't cheap depending on what they are. 15 bucks a pop maybe?
so, 50 + 6x15 + 20 + 10 = 170 + tax. no labor.. = nice afternoon in the
driveway playing with boats and motors.........
shop rates seem to be pushing 80 bucks an hour.. that work sounds
like minimum of 3 hours on the books. (even if the tech does it in 50 minutes)
--Sherpa

[kingsbiship]

50 min. is flying! More like 1.5 hr. in driveway! This CAN be done by you!
It's all common sense!

[mouzer]

thanks started this mornin..new water pump i n stalled in a hr...put it back together put the ear muffs on the water intake and at a idle its the same thining no water and at a rev its spurts intermiitten spurt,,wont burn your hand but still i think to hot...this is what it was doing before i switched water pumps and the old one was ok...is'nt it suppose to have a stedy pee all the time...any suggestions..:confused:

[Sherpa]

Mike,
the tattle-tail pee-spout should have water most of the time/if not all the
time.
did you check clearance for the impellor after you installed it? check shaft
rotation binding, although even if it was hard to spin by hand, the starter
motor would still spin it, but ruin it in the process..... hopefully you made
sure which direction the impeller "blades" needed to be installed...
my motor spins clockwise if you are looking down onto the engine. so my
impeller blades are bent back as if being held back on the outer edge.
does that make sense-??
mercury makes a huge deal on instructions about do not reverse the
shaft direction at all because it can cause the blades to bend backward,
and if they are like that in the housing, they will destroy themselves
quickly when the motor is started, along with no cooling being pumped
thru the engine causing damage also...
that being said, another thing is crank the water flow (from the house
to the cooling ears) all the way up full blast when running the motor.
yeah, you'll have water pissing everywhere, but supplying the motor with
enough capacity is paramount..........
it's gotta be one of those 2 things.. or, making sure both impellers are the
same diameter, and thickness..
good luck Mike...
--Sherpa

[Towndrunk]

You prbably have a ton of water coming out the lower unit because you have no back pressure. Normal. If you can hold your hand under it and keep it there it's not too hot. Stick it in a barrel and it will pee assuming you still have the water turned on. Use ngk BU8H from NAPA or Champion L76V from Wal- Mart. $3.50 here.

[kingsbiship]

Not many people like Champion! I had problems once... had the rep. come to
my shop to inspect a plug that would not fire. HE could not find why! Said a
spark plug is a very simple device, the same thing can be obtained with a piece
of wood and a nail! We broke it open and still couldn't tell me why it wouldn't fire!

[Towndrunk]

The champion was referenced for a second choice altho I have used them in my drag motor and they worked fine. They do however foul easier but can save the day.

[mouzer]

Thanks a bunch took it all back apart and everything matched and the impeller is correct and bends the correct way...put it all back together and its stuck in neutral wont go in gear...i had it in gear when i dropped the lower unit..what did i do..last time it worked.after words.:confused:

[mouzer]

its almost 3 pm im gonna drop it again than check this forum to see what i need to do befor i put it back on.thanks again....:(

[Sherpa]

since you mentioned it won't go into gear, when you take it apart, try and
fiddle with different positions for the shift mechanism while putting the lower
and middle unit back together..
maybe the shift fork was in one position when you took it apart, and the
lower unit was "stuck" in the middle somehow.
when you reassembled, the shift fork might have moved, and now the shaft
splines for the lower unit won't line up anymore.. something is bound up it
sounds.....
Towndrunk: I about crapped when the merc shop told me the price for the
plugs for my little 55 seapro Merc... remembering I think they were like 23
bucks a pop...
I could NOT find the same PN for a champ plug anywhere else... Not feeling
confident enough to use something else, I laid down the cash for the up-my
ass spark plugs.......... of course they work just fine... (So did the old ones,
so I have a used,spare set JIC.
--Sherpa

[mouzer]

im gonna walk away till i get home tomorrow......i dropped it down...the impeller was curved the wrong way and than i turned the front spline for the bottom end till the prop turned the shaft the correct way and put it back together...now its in reverse only.:mad: :mad: :rolleyes: i will get it right soon. thanks for all your help...mike

[mouzer]

YEAH..FINALLY got it right...came to the conclusion at dinner if the controls say forward and the bottom end says reverse..drop bottom end again put the handle in reverse and put it back together.....it worked:D :D THANKS FOR ALL YOUR advice...mike

[kingsbiship]

I've always removed the lowers with them in neutral. There's too much play in
rev. or forward to stay put. Turn the shift shaft 'till the prop shaft spins free,
put the shifter in neutral, and push up aligning the shaft as you go. Don't forget
the water tube and vent (if equipped)

[kingsbiship]

I type slow!

[Towndrunk]

The book says to leave it in forward and thats what I do. Never had a problem.

[mouzer]

thanks for the help..i was also told always drop it in forward..but i know nuthin:rolleyes:

[Towndrunk]

thanks for the help..i was also told always drop it in forward..but i know nuthin:rolleyes:
Me either, I'm just a squirrel with big swinging nutz!:D

[timebomb1]

If you remove it in fwd, it makes re-installing the pump housing onto the pump blades a whole lot easier. Turn the prop shaft, and with hand pressure on the housing, the upper driveshaft will turn and the blades will align with the housing and slip right in. Then when re-installing the lower onto the mid section the prop shaft can be turned to align the driveshaft teeth with the powerhead. Ron you know more than most squirels. Gary.,

[mouzer]

Just got back from lake elsinore this eve(friday).lil 17 ft low profile w/150 black max ran purty good..aint no v-drive but it made the wife and kids happy for a family boat. thanx for all your help.....mouz..oh ya i def need a new steering cable..to hard 2 turn,,,takes both hands...:rolleyes: like a big car w/no power steering:D

[boats&bars]

Rons marine in yucaipa kinda far away but he knows his stuff.............