car dealer creep

[Tom N]

My 24 year old daughter and I buy a used Honda from an AutoNation dealership in Clearwater, FL. A few days later the finanace guy uses her personal contact info to call her, make very inappropriate comments and asks her to meet her him. He tells her he is married, but getting divorced. He then made a couple of very lewd remarks. She told him the call was inappropriate and asked him not to call again. He then said he needs to see her and and called her 4 more times today... she did not pick up.
*note my daughter is 24 he said he is 36, he also weighs in at about 3 bills*
My daughter is very concerned, as am I, she was a victim of a stalker before. So she is very scared...as I am I. A scumbag broke into her condo and held her at gunpoint for 45 minutes last year. ( that creep is doing 7 years in FL State Prison for his crime against her) The ordeal deal was very trumatic for all of us, thank God she survived.
I called the creep and he denies everything even though I told him we have a record of his calls on her cell phone caller ID. I then told him I need the name of the dealership GM and he gave me a name...when I called back I found out the name he had given me was of a used car manager, not the dealerships GM . I'm sure the guy was just a buddy who would cover for him.
Anyway... I don't care about anything other than my daughters safety. My plan is to contact AutoNation's corporate offices HR department to see if this creep is a threat or not. If they will tell me anything.
I really want to drop in on him and kick the crap out of him. But again, I just am concerned about my daughters safety.
Any ideas on how i can find out if this guy is really a threat with a record or just a fat slob of human garbage?
What would you guy's do?

[ratso]

I'd report him, but I highly doubt he's a threat. There are a ton of creeps in that line of work... no offense to others here that are in the car biz, as I am myself... but I'm sure he is harmless...

[Boatcop]

Take out an Order of Protection. Have it served at his workplace. Make a police report on the harrassment. No contact in person, by phone or through 3rd party. Can't come within 200 yards of her home or work.
Granted it's just a piece of paper, but if he continues to call, you can have him arrested.

[YeLLowBoaT]

check megans law web site for FL... I doubt he is on it, but you never know... other then that I would make one call to my lawyer and let her handle( 95% of her partice sexually harrasment...) I'd give her about 2 hours before that guys head was on a sliver platter. He used privlaged infromation to contact her... might as well just give her the car... I'm not saying I would go strait to suing them, but letting them know that your lawyer is bighting at the bit to go after them, will make things go alot smoother. ;)
At the very least I would file a police report and go pay him and his boss a vist.

[Jbb]

I would also figure out a way to record the conversation the next time he calls her...

[Mandelon]

Perhaps he is suggesting that el creepo grande has a prior record and could get into extra trouble for these current actions..?

[Tom N]

Yes, most likely his biggest offense is being extremely tacky. But his aggresiveness and untruthfulness have me concerend enough to keep tabs on him.
I have friends and relatives in the car dealer profession and do not think this behaivor is connected with the job. I think this guy is just a creep. My thread title should not have connected this d-bag to the profession of selling cars.
I'm sorry.

[ratso]

Doesn't anybody just hit anybody anymore? :D
Speaking from experience... costly... very costly...

[BadKachina]

I assume if the creep has access to her phone number than he has all the rest of her personal info, job, home address, etc. I would pay the dealer a little visit, I think they may owe you more than an appology at this point. I would also demand to have the creep present there too so that you can point out all the bad things that are going to happen if he continues to harrass your daughter.
Why are people so fuked-up???????????:mad:

[Jbb]

Speaking from experience... costly... very costly...
:D

[ratso]

Yes, most likely his biggest offense is being extremely tacky. But his aggresiveness and untruthfulness have me concerend enough to keep tabs on him.
I have friends and relatives in the car dealer profession and do not think this behaivor is connected with the job. I think this guy is just a creep. My thread title should not have connected this d-bag to the profession of selling cars.
I'm sorry.
The behavior is inappropriate, but it doesn't surprise me.;)

[blueman]

Kick His Ass Sea Bass

[uvindex]

His daughter is 24, so I'm not sure how Megan's law applies to this situation.Megan's Law sites include sexual offenders and sexual predators who were convicted of crimes against adults, not just children. :)

[CBadDad]

Boatcop is right. Start a paper trail for sure.
He also should be introduced to Smith & Wesson. Makes a man think when he has a barrel shoved up his nose. I bet the phone calls stop after that.

[Tom N]

Take out an Order of Protection. Have it served at his workplace. Make a police report on the harrassment. No contact in person, by phone or through 3rd party. Can't come within 200 yards of her home or work.
Granted it's just a piece of paper, but if he continues to call, you can have him arrested.
Thanks Boat Cop! I will bring this option up to my daughter. After being a crime victim, we will do anything to gain an upper hand with the foul minded element out there.

[Troy McClure]

Speaking from experience... costly... very costly...
Very True.
My latest issue....long story but...
Lawyer---$2500
PI--------$ 250
Payout $1150 to a-hole whom I NEVER EVEN TOUCHED to make him go away.
Total $3900. Nothing priceless about it. CSUCKER!!:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Tom N]

I think his biggest offenses, in terms of his employment, are using private information gathered during the execution of his job for his personal business and sexually harassing the corporation's customer, likely on company time. I would think those would be grounds for immediate termination.
Having this pervert lose his job may give him a wake up call to the fact that his behavior is not acceptable, but having delt with stalkers before...I know the real worry is him knowing her phone numbers, home and work addresses.
It's a tough deal because law enforcement cannot help until after a crime has been committed.
Boat Cops idea of taking out an "Order of Protection" seems like a good idea.
At least he'll know we won't be F*cked with.

[Xlration Marine]

Doesn't anybody just hit anybody anymore? :D
Yea then the POS gets away with it and you spend the night locked up.
Nothing like a blanket in a dark parking lot, ah the good old days.
Lawyers are turning this country into a big sueing chit hole.

[YeLLowBoaT]

Yea then the POS gets away with it and you spend the night locked up.
Nothing like a blanket in a dark parking lot, ah the good old days.
Lawyers are turning this country into a big sueing chit hole.
no the good old days was you and about 5 of your buddys would go in to the dealership drag him out into the lot beat the shit out of him, calling him things like "pervert", etc... all the time telling every one why your doing it and that this dealership hires people like him. then a old lady walks up, 2 mins latter your holding him while the old lady beat the crap out of him with her purse.
Thats the good old days :D

[Jordy]

Why do I have to be the bad guy and suggest that this thread is worthless without pics???? :D :D :D
p.s. The order of protection, while seemingly mild, is the way to go. Judges love to throw the book at people who violate bench orders. :)

[Jordy]

Jordy, hate to disagree with you BUT, after he's pushed his way in her door, got her by her sweet lil neck, bouncing his 300lbs on her tasty lil tail all the while given it to her with his 2 inch pecker an tellin her this is what she gets for gettin him fired,,,,, I'll bet she'd wished she'd got the gun stead of "The Order of Protection".
Rio
You're actually not disagreeing with me on this one. The order of protection just lays the ground work for her busting a cap in his ass, that's why I say how mild it is. Unfortunately, oop's are just that, and "oops" for that department, but it does lay the things in order, especially in the stalker age, to take care of bidness!!!!
It's all about prior bad acts and intent... Then you can fish with the pieces... :idea:

[YeLLowBoaT]

Jordy, hate to disagree with you BUT, after he's pushed his way in her door, got her by her sweet lil neck, bouncing his 300lbs on her tasty lil tail all the while given it to her with his 2 inch pecker an tellin her this is what she gets for gettin him fired,,,,, I'll bet she'd wished she'd got the gun stead of "The Order of Protection".
Rio
If that was my kid he would be lucky that the cops got to him before I did.

[mbroome]

Dude, as the father of THREE girls, you need to do something NOW. In my opinion, RUN to your lawyer. You basically have the car dealership by the balls, which I would exploit fully. You need to slam this asshole, NOW. Don't play when it comes to your girl!

[ratso]

Why do I have to be the bad guy and suggest that this thread is worthless without pics???? :D :D :D
p.s. The order of protection, while seemingly mild, is the way to go. Judges love to throw the book at people who violate bench orders. :)
I was thinking... maybe that's her in his avatar...:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :D

[RitcheyRch]

Definitely do as BoatCop suggested. Not sure what would possess some POS to call a customer and start with these types of rude comments.

[yopengo]

Me, having a wee bit of a temper ( when my kids are involved)…if this happened to one of my daughters…would walk into his work/ office and call him a few choice words and threaten to kick his ass if he contacts her again. :eek: If he gave me any lip I would then kick his ass. :D This would probably end up involving the cops and I would be the one in jail…but that is just me. :idea: Thank God my wife can calm me down…. sometimes. :D
Getting a paper trail would be the logical thing to do. :D

[ratso]

Me, having a wee bit of a temper ( when my kids are involved)…if this happened to one of my daughters…would walk into his work/ office and call him a few choice words and threaten to kick his ass if he contacts her again. :eek: If he gave me any lip I would then kick his ass. :D This would probably end up involving the cops and I would be the one in jail…but that is just me. :idea: Thank God my wife can calm me down…. sometimes. :D
Getting a paper trail would be the logical thing to do. :D
The horrified look on their face is priceless when you actually commence to doing that...:D

[Mountainstone]

Much good advice here, and little of it is mutually exclusive. Load up and do it all, short of breaking the law.
The scumbag mentioned he is married. I would make a phone call to Mrs. Scumbag to fill her in on the situation. If he really is getting divorced, that will be more ammunition for Mrs. Scumbag's lawyer. If he is not really getting divorced, maybe this will put the thought into Mrs. Scumbag's head.

[Ziggy]

Google for Wayne Huizinga(yup, that Wayne) and you'll have the CEO of Auto Nation ;)