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PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:00 AM
Just walked out to the Z-06 and yep........ Screw in the rear tire......1 month old and buying a new tire...... Great

Cole Trickle
02-16-2006, 11:02 AM
Can't you patch it?
I picked up a self tapping screw a couple months ago with my Runflats and they fixed it with a performance tire plug? ($25 is alot cheaper than $500)

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 11:03 AM
Just walked out to the Z-06 and yep........ Screw in the rear tire......1 month old and buying a new tire...... Great
Man, that sucks.
I wish I had your problems. :argue: :argue:
Brian

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:06 AM
Can't you patch it?
I picked up a self tapping screw a couple months ago with my Runflats and they fixed it with a performance tire plug? ($25 is alot cheaper than $500)
At a buck eighty what's the last thing you want to be thinking about..... HEY I saved $500...... BUT I am thinking about it......

riverracerx
02-16-2006, 11:06 AM
Aren't your tires under warranty? :D

BigBlockBaja
02-16-2006, 11:08 AM
Just walked out to the Z-06 and yep........ Screw in the rear tire......1 month old and buying a new tire...... Great
Just plug it. will cost ya a couple bucks...
Here ya go....
http://www.leproducts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=19

Cole Trickle
02-16-2006, 11:11 AM
At a buck eighty what's the last thing you want to be thinking about..... HEY I saved $500...... BUT I am thinking about it......
I wonder if a plug could be a potential hazzard at that speed?
I have never heard of any poblems and I never had one but my car has never seen anything over 150.(The older I get the slower I seem to drive on the top end)

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:15 AM
I wonder if a plug could be a potential hazzard at that speed?
I have never heard of any poblems and I never had one but my car has never seen anything over 150.(The older I get the slower I seem to drive on the top end)
Screw a hole in a Parachute and then Patch it......... That makes me think.....

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:16 AM
Aren't your tires under warranty? :D
I am thinking about going out there with a hammer to see if the tire has a bubble on the side right now...... :D

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:17 AM
Just plug it. will cost ya a couple bucks...
Here ya go....
http://www.leproducts.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=19
Won't that throw the balance WAY OFF????

OGShocker
02-16-2006, 11:17 AM
Screw a hole in a Parachute and then Patch it......... That makes me think.....
PUSSY! Drive it til it blows!
See you this weekend!

Cole Trickle
02-16-2006, 11:24 AM
Screw a hole in a Parachute and then Patch it......... That makes me think.....
I guess I would be more worried driving a car at 180 on a public stretch of road then running with a patch. :crossx:
Sounds like you have made your decision and now you just need to order a new tire. :)

BigBlockBaja
02-16-2006, 11:26 AM
Won't that throw the balance WAY OFF????
I used them on many types of tires. The plug itself looks like a Jet drive packing gland rope. You reem the hole out in your tire with the supplied reamer. You ram the plug in with the other tool, then pull the tool out. The plug will stay in the tire. Trim off whats left on the outside and your good to go.
Sounds like a porno script, huh?
:crossx:

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:27 AM
PUSSY! Drive it til it blows!
OK BUT YOUR riding with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:30 AM
I guess I would be more worried driving a car at 180 on a public stretch of road then running with a patch. :crossx:
Sounds like you have made your decision and now you just need to order a new tire. :)
Tire is under WARRANTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 Months or 25% of wear Road hazzard warranty from Goodyear to GM on EMT tires..... Sounds like in 10 months I might have 4 screws

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 11:31 AM
OK BUT YOUR riding with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Im not scared, Ill even drive.
Brian

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:31 AM
I used them on many types of tires. The plug itself looks like a Jet drive packing gland rope. You reem the hole out in your tire with the supplied reamer. You ram the plug in with the other tool, then pull the tool out. The plug will stay in the tire. Trim off whats left on the outside and your good to go.
Sounds like a porno script, huh?
:crossx:
Not going to respond to that question........

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:37 AM
Im not scared, Ill even drive.
Brian
Now I'm scared........

NOTALENT
02-16-2006, 11:38 AM
ouch..that suck's...Tire's aren't cheap these day's.
Any quote on that truck Jay?

Cole Trickle
02-16-2006, 11:48 AM
Tire is under WARRANTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 Months or 25% of wear Road hazzard warranty from Goodyear to GM on EMT tires..... Sounds like in 10 months I might have 4 screws
NICE!!
I thought the Z06's didn't come with EMT's??(I know the previous generation didn't)

cola
02-16-2006, 11:54 AM
I used them on many types of tires. The plug itself looks like a Jet drive packing gland rope. You reem the hole out in your tire with the supplied reamer. You ram the plug in with the other tool, then pull the tool out. The plug will stay in the tire. Trim off whats left on the outside and your good to go.
Sounds like a porno script, huh?
:crossx:
I won't plug any tire. At 180+ it would be new. :cool:

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 11:57 AM
NICE!!
I thought the Z06's didn't come with EMT's??(I know the previous generation didn't)
They do in 06.... Goodyear says they have designed a softer side wall.... Still a little bumpy BUT worth it.....

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 12:16 PM
Now I'm scared........
Why?
Don't be scared.
Brian

OGShocker
02-16-2006, 12:19 PM
OK BUT YOUR riding with me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been dead before, what could it hurt? Hell, I'll even drive! :crossx:

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 12:21 PM
I've been dead before, what could it hurt? Hell, I'll even drive! :crossx:
I tried that already...
Brian

MagicMtnDan
02-16-2006, 12:29 PM
Just put it on one of the other Z06's you have sitting on the lot :D

lucky
02-16-2006, 12:32 PM
studed tires add traction off the line :cool:

Run_em_Hard
02-16-2006, 12:36 PM
I have had my bike at around 100 mph with the nail still in the front tire. Kinda forgot it was there. Scared me a little. I would get it fixed. If your loaded, which you probably are, just buy a new one.

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 12:38 PM
I have had my bike at around 100 mph with the nail still in the front tire. Kinda forgot it was there. Scared me a little. I would get it fixed. If your loaded, which you probably are, just buy a new one.
Motorcycle is a whole 'nother story.
Wouldn't do that.
Brian

spectras only
02-16-2006, 01:01 PM
Reputable tire shops won't plug a tire around my neck of woods , especially on high performance cars and tires. However Kal Tire has a policy to fix flats for free ,even if you're not their customer [ good service IMHO ] . The proper way to fix a tire is by removing it from the rim and patch it from inside .

Phat Matt
02-16-2006, 01:07 PM
Tire is under WARRANTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 Months or 25% of wear Road hazzard warranty from Goodyear to GM on EMT tires..... Sounds like in 10 months I might have 4 screws
Nice.

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 01:24 PM
studed tires add traction off the line :cool:
It's the traction at the finish line of the decinegrated tire that I'm worried about....

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 01:25 PM
Well policy is if it can be fixed (By patching) it will be fixed IF NOT it will be replaced...... Leaving the nail in it for now......

blackcloud75
02-16-2006, 02:23 PM
Just walked out to the Z-06 and yep........ Screw in the rear tire......1 month old and buying a new tire...... Great
I have screwed with less than 1/4" wood..............................
You knew that was coming....

ThongMagnet
02-16-2006, 03:03 PM
The problems with plugging a tire is the plug streaches the the fiber in the tire, when it is inserted into the tread. This allows the belts in the tire to seperate (Belt Seperation) and is the main reason a vehicle losses the tread off of a tire (recaps not available anymore)
So you say I'm still gonna plug it..... These are the thing's you can expect:
1) Wheel/Tire won't balance correctly due to plug weight
2) Vibrations, the plug is much harder than tire tread (like driving with a rock in your tire.
3) If its plugged on the rear tires, and you do a burnout, the plug might pull out.
The best and only real way to repair a tire is to patch it from the inside.
DON'T LET YOUR TIRE GUY FOOL YOU INTO GETTING A PLUG. DEMAND THAT YOUR TIRE IS PATCHED FROM THE INSIDE.

Tom Brown
02-16-2006, 03:13 PM
The plug itself looks like a Jet drive packing gland rope. You reem the hole out in your tire with the supplied reamer. You ram the plug in with the other tool, then pull the tool out. The plug will stay in the tire. Trim off whats left on the outside and your good to go.
Good to go, except that you've just FILED chords of your tire with the reamer... not good. I've had a few tires with popped chords and it's always where a plug was inserted. Not good.
It's way, way better to patch the tire from the inside but that takes effort and you have to R&R the tire from it's mount.
Plugs suck. :yuk:

Tom Brown
02-16-2006, 03:14 PM
DON'T LET YOUR TIRE GUY FOOL YOU INTO GETTING A PLUG. DEMAND THAT YOUR TIRE IS PATCHED FROM THE INSIDE.
Sorry TM. I didn't see your post before I posted mine.
I couldn't agree more with everything you've said. :cool:

PHOTOGLOU
02-16-2006, 03:26 PM
just got it back Patched...... Have ordered a new tire.....

RiverDave
02-16-2006, 04:09 PM
Reputable tire shops won't plug a tire around my neck of woods , especially on high performance cars and tires. However Kal Tire has a policy to fix flats for free ,even if you're not their customer [ good service IMHO ] . The proper way to fix a tire is by removing it from the rim and patch it from inside
I would agree with that.. and I wouldn't worry about it even if it was a performance tire.
RD

Cole Trickle
02-16-2006, 04:34 PM
I would agree with that.. and I wouldn't worry about it even if it was a performance tire.
RD
when they plugged my EMT they did it from the inside.

hoolign
02-16-2006, 04:58 PM
I cant believe that you people are even suggesting Plugging a tire on a 80k car?? WTF is 500 bucks?? If we were discussing Tom Browns maxima I could see it...

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 05:01 PM
I cant believe that you people are even suggesting Plugging a tire on a 80k car?? WTF is 500 bucks?? If we were discussing Tom Browns maxima I could see it...
Like I said, I wish I had his problems.
Brian

superdave013
02-16-2006, 05:07 PM
Reputable tire shops won't plug a tire around my neck of woods , especially on high performance cars and tires. However Kal Tire has a policy to fix flats for free ,even if you're not their customer [ good service IMHO ] . The proper way to fix a tire is by removing it from the rim and patch it from inside .
ding ding ding, this man is correct.
I would only plug tires on my 4X4 when I was way out in the woods. I once used 6 plugs to fill a hole and limp home on.
The truck I drive now has 4 patches on the same tire.

hoolign
02-16-2006, 05:13 PM
ding ding ding, this man is correct.
I would only plug tires on my 4X4 when I was way out in the woods. I once used 6 plugs to fill a hole and limp home on.
The truck I drive now has 4 patches on the same tire.
If you were to ever run HWY 99 from Vancouver to Whistler in 90 minutes ..you would'nt have the word "plug" in your vocabulary :D Atilla can vouche for that road!

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 05:23 PM
The truck I drive now has 4 patches on the same tire.
Ever thought of taking a different route?
Brian

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 05:31 PM
I was never a believer in plugs, my dad raised me from the "old" school. Patch it(good) or replace it(better).
I worked for several years on Saturdays, and Sundays sometimes, at an asphalt/concrete company maintaining the equipment. Semis, stakebeds, pickups, pavers, rollers, small equipment, even the owners cars/bikes/toys. Real cool guy too.
Soon I was looking for holes to plug.....couldn't plug enough of them.
:argue: :argue:
I never plugged so many tires in my life. I don't remember ever having a failure, some tires would have as many as ten plugs in each one. I thought it was pretty funny cause my dad would always give me shit for doing it.
I have plugged my own tires when need be.
True story.
Brian

mike37
02-16-2006, 05:51 PM
I was never a believer in plugs, my dad raised me from the "old" school. Patch it(good) or replace it(better).
I worked for several years on Saturdays, and Sundays sometimes, at an asphalt/concrete company, maintaining the equipment. Semis, stakebeds, pickups, pavers, rollers, small equipment, even the owners cars/bikes/toys. Real cool guy too.
Soon I was looking for holes to plug.....couldn't plug enough of them.
:argue: :argue:
I never plugged so many tires in my life. I don't remember ever having a failure, some tires would have as many as ten plugs in each one. I thought it was pretty funny, cause my dad would always give me shit for doing it.
I have plugged my own tires when need be.
True story.
Brian
I have and use plugs all the time at work and have never had any failures
on any hole that was nail size or smaller
but a patch is the way to go on a performance tire if ya wana wast 500 bucks get a new tire

hoolign
02-16-2006, 05:58 PM
I have and use plugs all the time at work and have never had any failures
on any hole that was nail size or smaller
but a patch is the way to go on a performance tire if ya wana wast 500 bucks get a new tire
How is 500 bucks a waste ..when runnin 150 MPH + ???. Jays Vette would run a lap around my T/A but I wouldnt even think about patching a tire when you can run those speeds! I have had patches fail on my truck and on cars I had when i was a kid..if'n ya cant afford the tires don't buy the car

mickeyfinn
02-16-2006, 06:03 PM
The friction of a plug only holds it in temporarily. Once the vehicle is up to freeway speeds for 10-20 minutes the plug begins vulcanizing into the rubber of the tire. Theoretically the plug is superior to the patch. That being said, at 180 I think I would go the new tire route and use the plugged one as a spare. (Don't forget to run the plugged tire long enough for it to vulcanize before making the spare.)

mike37
02-16-2006, 06:16 PM
How is 500 bucks a waste ..when runnin 150 MPH + ???. Jays Vette would run a lap around my T/A but I wouldnt even think about patching a tire when you can run those speeds! I have had patches fail on my truck and on cars I had when i was a kid..if'n ya cant afford the tires don't buy the car
well you are just to cool for me cary on

hoolign
02-16-2006, 06:25 PM
well you are just to cool for me cary on
Oh don't get like that ! it's my Canadian opinion... so that's only 82% of yours ! :D I just don't agree with "cheaping out" going fast!
P.S. just because I'm Canadian does'nt mean you have to leave out the appropriate secondary 'r" in carry due to the piss poor exchange rate! :D

spectras only
02-16-2006, 06:31 PM
If you were to ever run HWY 99 from Vancouver to Whistler in 90 minutes ..you would'nt have the word "plug" in your vocabulary :D Attila can vouche for that road!
They don't call it the "Killer highway" for nothing :2purples:
Hi Hooli , what a f...ck were you so mad about earlier ? Wifey talked you
into a huge mortgage and no new boat for you for a long time , eh.

mike37
02-16-2006, 06:35 PM
Oh don't get like that ! it's my Canadian opinion... so that's only 82% of yours ! :D I just don't agree with "cheaping out" going fast!
P.S. just because I'm Canadian does'nt mean you have to leave out the appropriate secondary 'r" in carry due to the piss poor exchange rate! :D
OK here is your second R you happy now
I'm just saying we live in California sew happy Capitol of the world
so if me reputable tire guy tells me a patch will work I'm good cus its his ass if it blows so why would they do it if it wont work properly

hoolign
02-16-2006, 06:45 PM
They don't call it the "Killer highway" for nothing :2purples:
Hi Hooli , what a f...ck were you so mad about earlier ? Wifey talked you
into a huge mortgage and no new boat for you for a long time , eh.
No .We put an offer down on a place with the knowledgde that there was another offer in that couldnt make it. So in goes my offer with the condition that my current house is sold prior to the purchase ( i don't want 2 house's again) offer is accepted then next day i get ..you lose the first offer went through. he droppped all conditions..after 8 fukking months!!!! So ..now my house is on the market with no place to get into!..and it aint easy finding what I want here without dumping 500 + :mad:
I'm all better now..my liar thinks something was screwy too and is looking into it!

hoolign
02-16-2006, 06:48 PM
OK here is your second R you happy now
I'm just saying we live in California sew happy Capitol of the world
so if me reputable tire guy tells me a patch will work I'm good cus its his ass if it blows so why would they do it if it wont work properly
Not if your dead.. is my point.if ya can afford the toys why cheap out on the fixes?? it's like Hop Sing money bags going to Midas for a muffler on is 3 day old BMW.. :rolleyes:

mike37
02-16-2006, 07:05 PM
Not if your dead.. is my point.if ya can afford the toys why cheap out on the fixes?? it's like Hop Sing money bags going to Midas for a muffler on is 3 day old BMW.. :rolleyes:
my wife and kids will figure some way to spend the money

superdave013
02-16-2006, 07:16 PM
Ever thought of taking a different route?
Brian
well now that I changed jobs it's all good. I used to go right past a trash transfer place and I'm thinking that was the problem.

Mandelon
02-16-2006, 07:16 PM
Yah big wuss. Do it like I do. Change out the screw every 500 miles.
I once replaced the screw in my tire 4 times over a 6 month period. Put 15,000 miles on the tire and screw combo. Everytime the screw head would wear down so I could barely get the screwdriver to catch I would replace the screw with a new one.
Lazy? No, just busy. :rolleyes:

wsuwrhr
02-16-2006, 07:28 PM
well now that I changed jobs it's all good. I used to go right past a trash transfer place and I'm thinking that was the problem.
See? You're learning.
Brian

spectras only
02-16-2006, 07:48 PM
So ..now my house is on the market with no place to get into!..and it aint easy finding what I want here without dumping 500 + :mad:
with long winter months there , you could build an igloo for the time being ,before it thaws out :p :) j/k . It sucks dealing with real estate.

hoolign
02-16-2006, 07:51 PM
with long winter months there , you could build an igloo for the time being ,before it thaws out :p :) j/k . It sucks dealing with real estate.
If I had accsess to your bank account it would not be a problem... he who lends "Jimmy P" cash to operate :D

MagicMtnDan
02-16-2006, 09:26 PM
First of all there should be a maximum hole-size limit for repairs in the tread area. It's typically one-quarter inch in all tires. Although it is possible for holes to be too close together to permit safe repairs, there are no limitations to the number of tread repairs that can be performed per tire.
The safest way to repair a puncture is the plug-and-patch method which is considered the best and most comprehensive available. First the puncture is plugged, and then patched for a double layer of protection.

Boy Named Sue
02-16-2006, 10:00 PM
I had this gizmo that my dad gave me, looked like a flashlight with a big needle sticking out of it. He said he'd had it for 15 years when he gave it to me. Inside was a lifetime spool of rubbery thread and you could plug the shit out of tires and they never failed. My wife got it in the divorce....bitch. Now even if I have a real slow leak I take it to the tire shop and they patch it (inside) for 11 bucks in 15 minutes. They did two for me last weekend before I could finish my beer. Ain't no 150 mph cars but no problems. If I was going that fast I'd buy a new tire cuz the stresses you're putting that rubber under are just looking for a weak spot.