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koyota93
07-09-2007, 11:42 AM
What kind of starter do you guys use? I have a 454 BBC and use a Napa starter. They go bad at least once a season, but they do have the 3 year warranty. It is barely able to crank the boat over. Do you guys use some type of hi torque marine one? I have seen some hi-torque ones in Summit, but don't want to invest all that money if its gonna go bad when it gets wet.

Xlration Marine
07-09-2007, 12:18 PM
I have a 4.0 and some times I have to use a rope and pull start it. I've pull started my old six banger a few times as well. Oh don't put some stupid car parts on that thing. If it catches on fire your Ins. company won't pay off. Check to make sure the battery is putting out the canking amps to turn the starter. And check all of the conections for that white crap. Should be a top mount to keep it away from water.
Marine parts are sealed to keep water out and sparks in. Don't use auto chiat.

Jetaholic
07-09-2007, 12:19 PM
I'm running a Hardin Marine mini-starter. They're a gear reduction starter and they work great.

centerhill condor
07-09-2007, 12:25 PM
powermaster mini high torque.
beats a rope!

ck7684
07-09-2007, 03:46 PM
I've never had any luck with NAPA electronics, ESPECIALLY starters. They are JUNK. Everyone I've ever used has never lasted a year, nor has anyone's that I know of. These were all on cars, but same difference if not worse. Try a different brand, it needn't be expensive, just not NAPA...

Rexone
07-09-2007, 03:56 PM
Most starters (even marine) will fail when subjected to water beyond occasional splash. Marine are ignition protected for spark but not water "proof". I don't know of any starter, automotive or marine that will not fail if submerged.

Xlration Marine
07-09-2007, 04:40 PM
powermaster mini high torque.
beats a rope!
Not if your battery is dead.:D :D

76 Bonneville
07-09-2007, 06:12 PM
Top mount starter is the way to go. I've gotten as much as 8 seasons on one, and when it does go bad just have it rebuilt for around 125.00.

Moneypitt
07-09-2007, 06:25 PM
Most starters (even marine) will fail when subjected to water beyond occasional splash. Marine are ignition protected for spark but not water "proof". I don't know of any starter, automotive or marine that will not fail if submerged.
Mike, bone stock GM high torque with PG nose, lots of compression, 37* timing locked out........Sunk the boat way over the starter at the ramp while lauching at Firebird, that water will take the chrome of a trailer ball, but that sucker started.......Opened it up later, wd'd it, cleaned it up and it worked for a few more years.... I have yet to see a "mini" starter worth a damm, unless you value knocking teeth off the ring gear.........A very good, 1000 CCA battery will usually cure starter failures. A weak battery will murder a starter in an afternoon. Everytime a starter drags, cranks slow, it is over heating stuff that doesn't want to be overheated............MP

gr16241
07-09-2007, 06:54 PM
Top mount Prestolite marine starter is a great choice. Mine has lasted for years with no problems. I have friends that swear by the gear reduction mini starters also.

koyota93
07-10-2007, 10:37 AM
How do those top mount starters work? Where do they mount? Do I need anything special?
I was thinking about getting this one from Dana Marine. It seems reasonable in price. http://www.danamarineproducts.com/ProductDetails.cfm?group_id=6&catid=265&productid=1624&CFID=322901&CFTOKEN=95555961
Anyone have any experiences with this?
My current starter is staggered bolt design, can I get a straight one or do I need to stick to the stagggered?
What gauge wire do you guys run to the starter?
Thanks for all the help.

Dana Marine Products
07-10-2007, 05:38 PM
Your block should have the straight bolt pattern also, if so, you're good to go.

Cas
07-10-2007, 05:51 PM
I bought a marine mini high torque off ebay from a seller named A1truck for $69.00 and that little thing has been going strong for 3 years now.

Jetaholic
07-10-2007, 06:24 PM
How do those top mount starters work? Where do they mount? Do I need anything special?
I was thinking about getting this one from Dana Marine. It seems reasonable in price. http://www.danamarineproducts.com/ProductDetails.cfm?group_id=6&catid=265&productid=1624&CFID=322901&CFTOKEN=95555961
Anyone have any experiences with this?
My current starter is staggered bolt design, can I get a straight one or do I need to stick to the stagggered?
What gauge wire do you guys run to the starter?
Thanks for all the help.
You just need a flywheel cover that has a mount for a top mount starter on it.