What is the best oil pan for the money ?

[Squirtin Thunder]

OK I know this is a real big can of worms but I need some input. I run circles in the jet boat, being I circle race and I am turning 5300 + rpms for more than 10min at a time. I also have a big 300 mile or 6hr race coming up. So to help the engine live thought the remaining 3 races my wife has agreed to let me get a new pan. I am also running an oil cooler that holds almost 1qt.
All three fit with no clearance problems
This is the pan I have on the truck;
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MOR%2D20614&N=700+4294908331+4294840124+115&autoview=sku
This is a typical jet pan;
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MIL%2D31365&N=700+4294908331+4294840124+115&autoview=sku
Here is the Dooley pans;
http://www.rexmar.com/images/page269.jpg
http://www.dooleyenterprises.com/Oilpans/pages/429460Ford.htm
Thanks
Jim

[steveo143]

Have Armando build you a pan.

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

Stefs! Contact Chris Straub........

[gn7]

Stefs? he did say some thing about "for the money" go with Armando but order it NOW because the last time I checked, he was swamped. P.S. you won't be out there for 6 hrs in that 300, some one else will finish looooong before that.

[dmontzsta]

Armandos or bust.

[Warp Speed]

Make sure whatever you use, it has a screen type windage tray/device. The solid, louvered type are typicly worse than nothing at all.
Warp Speed

[lilrick]

Have Armando build you a pan.
best bang for the buck. I don't own one, but if I was going NEW, I would go this route.

[Squirtin Thunder]

Armandos or bust.
Well all I can say is that is one cool cat. So I am waiting for Chris before desision is made.

[Danhercules]

Have Armando build you a pan.
Thats what I just got.
Lakes Only suggested I go there. Some one he knows who is long time racer and motor builder was very impressed with the Armando pan when he saw it. Was cheeper than the dooley too.

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

Stefs? he did say some thing about "for the money" go with Armando but order it NOW because the last time I checked, he was swamped. P.S. you won't be out there for 6 hrs in that 300, some one else will finish looooong before that.
My BAD!!!! I always treat my oiling system as a heart of the motor. Spend money where its important............:idea:
A penny saved is NOT a penny earned in this situation

[Squirtin Thunder]

Thats what I just got.
Lakes Only suggested I go there. Some one he knows who is long time racer and motor builder was very impressed with the Armando pan when he saw it. Was cheeper than the dooley too.
10,000 times the pan of the Dooley and about $75 less and custom made for you application.

[Ralph Brunt]

armondo's

[Squirtin Thunder]

armondo's
Yep ! This one is for a BBC but you get the point.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103pan3.JPG

[cstraub]

On a Stef's pan we will never win when it comes to price. Bottom line is we do not start with an OEM or aftermarket core pan that supplies the building block of the pan with pan rails and seal radiuses. Stef's hand fabricates 100%of the pan. On our steel stuf we use heavy gauge steel that will last years in marine application. Ask any of the engine builders that use our pans, you can use them as an engine stand.
You also get the benefits of R&D by professional race teams. Our work with professional teams results in technology showing up in our pans in following years. The oil pan is one of the few non moving parts in an engine that if not properly matched to the engine it can destroy a high $$$ engine.
Armando, Dooley, Milidon, Moroso, Charlies, Kevko, Champ, hell I can go on all make good products, all I can do is tell you what we make at Stef's and how we make it. It is your $$ and you spend it how you think is in your best interest.

[gn7]

I would never down talk a stef's pan, it's just that after loseing two motors with dooley's back to back in 2002 and never ever scuffed a bearing with a armando (avaid) I'am pretty sold. Would still perfer two have a Olsen alum or a Billet Fab. but the money doesn't justify it if I'am not haveing problems now. We have a 50lb dummy light in the boat and with the dooley it flashed in every turn. With the armando it has never even flashed.

[bordsmnj]

stef's
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r246/bordsmnj/schiadateardown066.jpg just needs to get powder coated. might go hpc.

[Squirtin Thunder]

Jason how many qts. ?

[bordsmnj]

14 qts.
4.75 stroke clearance
offshore race
bbc gen 4

[lilrick]

how muchie??:D

[bordsmnj]

i don't remember and not sure i want to.:D

[Squirtin Thunder]

I spoke to Chris tonight. That is a very nice pan Jason !

[Warp Speed]

stef's
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r246/bordsmnj/schiadateardown066.jpg just needs to get powder coated. might go hpc.
Nice piece right there!!!
No stampings in sight.
Full fabricated rails, nice screen. Tough to beat that. ;)

[superdave013]

So I was selling stuff at the Long Beach Swapmeet. Some little mexican guy and his wife stopped and started asking me about weld bungs. I asked if he made tanks. He said "I make oil pans".
So I of course said you must be Armando.
Yes I am, how did you know he asked?? So I told him he is famous in the v drive boat world for his oil pans. Hearing that made his day and his wife was beaming with pride also. It was pretty cool to see.
I'd think that Stef's has more acess to more technology then just about everone else. It shows in their product, set one side by side with a Dooley pan and you tell me.

[superdave013]

stef's
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r246/bordsmnj/schiadateardown066.jpg just needs to get powder coated. might go hpc.
is that bung with the cap a turbo oil return?

[kmenard]

Yep ! This one is for a BBC but you get the point.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103pan3.JPG
ok, I have to ask...
$?

[Youngblood]

ok, I have to ask...
$?
http://www.geocities.com/aroilpans2/index.html#traps
And I hope you're not in any hurry either.

[cstraub]

Leadtime for us right now is 3 weeks build time.

[BrendellaJet]

if you dont have to wait they must not sell many pans.

[v-drive]

I'd think that Stef's has more acess to more technology then just about everone else. It shows in their product, set one side by side with a Dooley pan and you tell me.[/QUOTE]
Please, lets not bring dooley pans into this. I think they should be ashamed of their product:mad: v-drive

[BrendellaJet]

I'd think that Stef's has more acess to more technology then just about everone else. It shows in their product, set one side by side with a Dooley pan and you tell me.
Please, lets not bring dooley pans into this. I think they should be ashamed of their product:mad: v-drive[/QUOTE]
hey its not there fault you let water sit in the pan!:D

[v-drive]

Please, lets not bring dooley pans into this. I think they should be ashamed of their product:mad: v-drive
hey its not there fault you let water sit in the pan!:D[/QUOTE]
Hey, the pan was formed bad to begin with. that's why it had to come off

[superdave013]

I'd think that Stef's has more acess to more technology then just about everone else. It shows in their product, set one side by side with a Dooley pan and you tell me.
Please, lets not bring dooley pans into this. I think they should be ashamed of their product:mad: v-drive[/QUOTE]
what, you mean zero oil pressure when you lift at the big end is not a good thing??

[gn7]

My BAD!!!! I always treat my oiling system as a heart of the motor. Spend money where its important............:idea:
A penny saved is NOT a penny earned in this situation
one could only assume that with a statement like that, your running dry sump with a 15 qt. tank.

[steelcomp]

one could only assume that with a statement like that, your running dry sump with a 15 qt. tank.Now THAT was funny.:) :)
You're not going to get any better than Stefs, bar none, but like everything else, (and everyone else) there's usually a budget involved, and what's "reasonable" for a given application. When you have a $500 bottom end, it's hard to justify an $800- $1000 pan, but when you're trying to get that budget engine to last through some pretty gruling duty, a good oil pan/system is a must. There are plenty of products out there, just depends on how much research you want to do, and what you're willing to settle for, and spend.

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

one could only assume that with a statement like that, your running dry sump with a 15 qt. tank.
Not true my friend. why spend $300 on a milodon when you can get alot more detail in a custom pan for double? For some that means an extra day of overtime and others just slide the card:D Whne you buy a custom pan it comes with everything! Ask Chris and he will tell you what his pans come with......
Thats a bargain to me,.....

[Squirtin Thunder]

Now THAT was funny.:) :)
You're not going to get any better than Stefs, bar none, but like everything else, (and everyone else) there's usually a budget involved, and what's "reasonable" for a given application. When you have a $500 bottom end, it's hard to justify an $800- $1000 pan, but when you're trying to get that budget engine to last through some pretty gruling duty, a good oil pan/system is a must. There are plenty of products out there, just depends on how much research you want to do, and what you're willing to settle for, and spend.
My choise has been made, I can not afford or justify one for $1000 from Stephs, but I can work a few extra days for an Armondos 14qt custom pan for my boat. I wish I could.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103pan2.JPG
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/103pan3.JPG

[gn7]

don't lose any sleep over your choice. there more than a couple of those pans bolted to the bottom of 1000 h.p. boat motors with zero problems.