pro comp aluminum heads

[TRed 02]

Note> this thread isn't spam, he's asking about this ebay listing below...Rexone (moved here from spam forum).
PRO SERIES BIG BLOCKCHEVY ALUMINUM HEADS BY PROCOMP, (TWO HEADS)
These heads do not require any additional work, other than simple assembly. Please beware of other sellers of such similar heads claiming to need guide honing and seat work, before installing. This is a somewhat expensive procedure. These heads do not require any work other than assembly. These heads do not come with hardware. We have the hardware and the fully dressed out heads listed. Click to see them in our other listings. This auction is for one set, (2 heads).
We have lowered our price on these heads to remain competitive. You are buying at true wholesale prices. We have the absolute best deal in world on these heads. We choose to remain competitive, so lowering our price was the answer.
STOCK VALVES WILL NOT WORK IN THESE HEADS. THEY REQUIRE LONGER VALVES, AND WE DO HAVE THEM LISTED, AS WELL AS ALL THE HARDWARE NEEDED. SEE OUR OTHER LISTINGS
THIS PRICE IS FOR ONE PAIR (2 HEADS) NO HARDWARE INCLUDED. Give Charlie or Travis a call at 423-722-5152 for specs on these heads. We will also need to know your cam profile, should you decide to purchase our hardware. We have the best prices in the country on the hardware for these heads. We are the number one seller of in our area. This is the best deal we have ever offered on Big Block Aluminum heads. Please continue reading!
Here is a closeup of the exhaust ports. They are very well machined.
Below is a picture of the intake ports. The casting quality is first class.
These are a true multi purpose head for street, drag race, and power boat applications. These are a perfect upgrade over oem cast iron heads on your big block engine. As with the existing Pro Top Line range, accuracy and detail are at there highest. We honestly feel there is not a better set of heads for the price. These heads are tried and proven. The intake runner volume is 320 CC, and the combustion chambers are 115 CC. Call Justin or Travis for technical info. They can answer any questions you may have. This number can be called from anywhere in the US toll free. Out of the country, dial 423-722-5152
Notice the detailed workmanship in these heads.
The horse power gain from the weight reduction alone is noticable, not to mention the fact that aluminum heads will allow you to run a bit more advanced timing, without the risk of detonation. The benefits are many to running aluminum heads. The most expensive cars in the world, have ran them for many years. There are no drawbacks!
Never before have we had a chance to offer such a top line product at this price. THIS SALE IS FOR BOTH HEADS, (ONE PAIR). We have sold over 100 pair of these heads and have yet to have one customer complain. Nothing but praise. Seems like most big block guys are pretty serious in the setups they have. We were surprised to what level they run their engines compared to the small block community. So if your running extreme hp. this head will meet your standards, as it has for all those in the past. Give us a call if you need specs or setup info. Procomp does' build a very good bbc head.
Call 423-722-5152 Should you need assistance on how to navigate to your paypal account, we may be able to help you. This seems to be a problem for many new to ebay and paypal.
Check out the pics. below. The detailed workmanship in these heads are in our opinion, better than any we have seen.
They will have a competition valve job, and the guides have all been checked with a GO-NO-GO Gauge. This insures perfect tolerances in the guide's. We have the best head man and use the best equipment on the market. This should be considered when purchasing heads. The price above is for a pair of bare heads, that are ready to assemble. Hardware and assembly available. We do have the best head builder in the country, should you decide on purchasing hardware. We offer the best deal on hardware you will ever find. See our other listings for assembled heads.
We also offer tech. support, and feel confident that we can give the best advice in business. Our head man, (Frank) has been doing performance heads for 15 years, and not a month passes that he's not working a set of heads that cost in the $5,000.00+ range, and when not doing these, he building the local circle track heads, and every thing running the drag strip. Not only have the best in the business prepared these heads.
We do have all the nessasary hardware at an additional cost. (Best prices on the market) We offer these heads in bare form, as many customers have selected a machine shop of there choice, as well as there own hardware. We hope you will check out our other auctions for the many other items we have available.
Check our other listing for fully assembled heads. They include everything, except roller rockers. The fully assembled heads come with premium Sinus valves, pro-series springs, guide plates, keepers, retainers, spring locators. Heads are cleaned before and after assembly. Remember this info on the hardware is for those choosing to purchase the completely assembled heads in our other listings. We have these listed as such in our other listings, as well as many other great items for Big Block engines. The valves we use are some of the best valves in the world. Sinus, out of Israel. They are extreme duty, REM FLOW DESIGN Excellent for forced induction setups. These valves are normally sold to professional racing engine builders. This valve will cover just about any type usage. These are a must if your planing on serious horsepower. We can list the hardware at discount price should you prefer to assemble the heads your self. Check our other listings for these heads. Please consider this when buying valves. This is one of the most important aspect of a premium buildup on heads. Email us, should you want items not mentioned. We will list them. Remember the heads listed are bare, without hardware. info@whiteperformance.net
CHECK OUT OUR OTHER LISTINGS ON PRO. PRODUCTS ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLDS FOR BIG BLOCK ENGINES. WE DO HAVE THE BEST PRICE ON THESE.
See our other listings for race ser. roller rockers,
We stongly recommend the stainless steel roller rockers below for extreme service. They are not included with the heads, see our other listing.
SEALED POWER HYDRO LIFTERS HT-817 THESE THE BEST LIFTERS MONEY CAN BUY. SEE OUR OTHER LISTINGS. SUMMIT RACING SELLS THESE FOR MUCH MORE THAN WE DO.
Check our other listings for titanium retainers. No one offers titanium retainers for the price we have them for. Have you noticed that titanium scrap value is at the all time high. This price is untouchable, and we strongly recommend these on solid roller applications. See our other listings.
We also have the Fel Pro 1047 heads gaskets listed, and the 1275 intake gaskets.
Give us a call if you need technical data on these heads. Ask for Charlie, or Travis. Paypal, or credit card calls for those without a paypal account or having dificulty are welcome or you may mail your check to us.
423-722-5152 IS OUR NUMBER. Calls are to be breif on tech support, as we are short on staff at the moment.
If you do not have such a shop to do your assembly, we would be glad to do this for you. See our other listings for the fully dressed out heads. We truly have one of the best head builders in the country.
Below are the head specs, and feel free to give us a call if you have any questions. If your interested in purchasing the hardware, we will need to know your cam type and profile, or at least an estimated range the cam you have is in.
APPLICATION
For Street, drag race and power boats
Intake valves 2.250 +250, we do have these in stock
Exhaust valves 1.880 +100 we do have these in stock
You can not run stock GM bbc valves in these heads. They are to be as listed above.
Specifications
Competition Valve Job
Head Torque Settings 65-7Oft lbs Short (7/16) 70-75ft lbs Long
Rocker stud torque settings 50ft lbs
Combustion chamber 119cc
Spring pocket Is 1.6250”, no deeper
Rocker 1.7 ratio
Intake face angle 90 deg.
Manganese Bronze Guides
Installed Height 200+
Rolled over valve angles and better flowing ports give you all the advantages o’ a custom one off cylinder head at a more affordable price. We can also supply you with items such as the Procomp Race version roller rockers. Check out our other listings. We also have head gaskets, intake gaskets, intake manifolds, listed. Give us a call and ask for Charlie or Travis for technical info on these heads. 423-722-5152 ALTERNATE PHONE NUMBER.
We will ship this item to Canada via UPS to ensure insurance on your heads and help with shipping costs. The cost for each set of heads to Canada is $86.00
WE OFFER GREAT DISCOUNTS ON SHIPPING. YOU PAY THE FULL SHIPPING FEE ON THE HIGHEST SHIPPING COST OF THE FIRST ITEM, AND HALF PRICE SHIPPING ON ALL ADDITIONAL ITEMS. FEW OFFER DISCOUNTS ON SHIPPING SUCH AS THIS. EMAIL US USING THE ASK SELLER A QUESTION TAB, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CALCULATE YOUR SHIPPING COST ON MULTIPLE ITEM ORDERS
IF YOU ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY PAYING WITH PAYPAL, FEEL FREE TO GIVE US A CALL AT 423-722-5152 ASK FOR SARA OR STACIE. HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 9am-10pm AND 10am-8pm MON.-FRI.
HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 9am-10pm MON-FRI, CALL US AT 423-722-5152 EASTERN TIME ZONE, SHOULD YOU HAVE A CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUE. REMEMBER THIS IS THREE HOURS LATER THAN WEST COAST PACIFIC TIME.
are they good heads

[jbone]

No pics??? And, did I miss the prices???
J

[sleekcrafter]

I hope you just copy pasted that from ebay and are just questioning about the heads them self. Talking to many people and reading up on the heads them self, they may have their place, but not in my motor. check out this forum question and answer, it's the general consensus
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?p=730338

[SBC Jetboat]

If you want a good set of aluminum heads for a good price, check out Patriot Performance. They come ready to bolt on. Angle plug or straight, screw in studs, guide plates, Stainless valves, viton seals, etc...
Heres the link
http://www.patriot-performance.com/waterNew/default.asp?x=1&DID=1225

[Daytona100]

I didn,t see any Big block heads. Did I miss em ?:confused:

[SBC Jetboat]

My fault, shoulda read a bit closer. I see now that the original post is for BBC heads. Sorry. Anyway, its good to know about them. Better give em a call. Im not sure about BBC. They originally started years ago making corvette heads and 5.0 mustang heads. They are lately branching out into other engines. Not sure if they make BBC heads yet or not. I've got a set on a SBC and love em. $800 plus shiping. Hard to beat.

[RIVERTIME247]

tom ...why havnt you called dana you know he can get you brodix or dana pro 1 heads for cost. he racing until thur but you can probly get hold of him on his cell. im sure the reps will be at the races ...there might be a even sweeter deal.
just send some bones for the real deal!
are you going to the river this weeked ?

[DUCKY]

We just bought a set of these to put on my Mom's hydro. I took them down to Kincaid to get the valves/springs put it and he thought that for the price ($694 delivered, bare) they were fine. I'll let you know how they work when we get back from Marble Falls.......

[pce680]

We just bought a set of these to put on my Mom's hydro. I took them down to Kincaid to get the valves/springs put it and he thought that for the price ($694 delivered, bare) they were fine. I'll let you know how they work when we get back from Marble Falls.......
Kincaid...Is that the famous Drag Boat Racer ???

[bp]

Kincaid...Is that the famous Drag Boat Racer ???
the same. you going to mf, or stay in the backroom?:)

[Bense468]

Kincaid...Is that the famous Drag Boat Racer ???
Yes, he is still building out in Havasu.

[stoker2001]

We just bought a set of these to put on my Mom's hydro. I took them down to Kincaid to get the valves/springs put it and he thought that for the price ($694 delivered, bare) they were fine. I'll let you know how they work when we get back from Marble Falls.......
Hey Scott
Now we are going to have to worry about Mom breaking out:D
See you kids in MF

[pce680]

the same. you going to mf, or stay in the backroom?:)
Its raining,wind blowing,and muddy.Not for me.Maybe I will just rent a boat,like Lipinski.

[cstraub]

PRO SERIES BIG BLOCKCHEVY ALUMINUM HEADS BY PROCOMP, (TWO HEADS)
These heads do not require any additional work, other than simple assembly. Please beware of other sellers of such similar heads claiming to need guide honing and seat work, before installing. This is a somewhat expensive procedure. These heads do not require any work other than assembly. These heads do not come with hardware. We have the hardware and the fully dressed out heads listed. Click to see them in our other listings. This auction is for one set, (2 heads).
We have lowered our price on these heads to remain competitive. You are buying at true wholesale prices. We have the absolute best deal in world on these heads. We choose to remain competitive, so lowering our price was the answer.
STOCK VALVES WILL NOT WORK IN THESE HEADS. THEY REQUIRE LONGER VALVES, AND WE DO HAVE THEM LISTED, AS WELL AS ALL THE HARDWARE NEEDED. SEE OUR OTHER LISTINGS
THIS PRICE IS FOR ONE PAIR (2 HEADS) NO HARDWARE INCLUDED. Give Charlie or Travis a call at 423-722-5152 for specs on these heads. We will also need to know your cam profile, should you decide to purchase our hardware. We have the best prices in the country on the hardware for these heads. We are the number one seller of in our area. This is the best deal we have ever offered on Big Block Aluminum heads. Please continue reading!
Here is a closeup of the exhaust ports. They are very well machined.
Below is a picture of the intake ports. The casting quality is first class.
These are a true multi purpose head for street, drag race, and power boat applications. These are a perfect upgrade over oem cast iron heads on your big block engine. As with the existing Pro Top Line range, accuracy and detail are at there highest. We honestly feel there is not a better set of heads for the price. These heads are tried and proven. The intake runner volume is 320 CC, and the combustion chambers are 115 CC. Call Justin or Travis for technical info. They can answer any questions you may have. This number can be called from anywhere in the US toll free. Out of the country, dial 423-722-5152
Notice the detailed workmanship in these heads.
The horse power gain from the weight reduction alone is noticable, not to mention the fact that aluminum heads will allow you to run a bit more advanced timing, without the risk of detonation. The benefits are many to running aluminum heads. The most expensive cars in the world, have ran them for many years. There are no drawbacks!
Never before have we had a chance to offer such a top line product at this price. THIS SALE IS FOR BOTH HEADS, (ONE PAIR). We have sold over 100 pair of these heads and have yet to have one customer complain. Nothing but praise. Seems like most big block guys are pretty serious in the setups they have. We were surprised to what level they run their engines compared to the small block community. So if your running extreme hp. this head will meet your standards, as it has for all those in the past. Give us a call if you need specs or setup info. Procomp does' build a very good bbc head.
Call 423-722-5152 Should you need assistance on how to navigate to your paypal account, we may be able to help you. This seems to be a problem for many new to ebay and paypal.
Check out the pics. below. The detailed workmanship in these heads are in our opinion, better than any we have seen.
They will have a competition valve job, and the guides have all been checked with a GO-NO-GO Gauge. This insures perfect tolerances in the guide's. We have the best head man and use the best equipment on the market. This should be considered when purchasing heads. The price above is for a pair of bare heads, that are ready to assemble. Hardware and assembly available. We do have the best head builder in the country, should you decide on purchasing hardware. We offer the best deal on hardware you will ever find. See our other listings for assembled heads.
We also offer tech. support, and feel confident that we can give the best advice in business. Our head man, (Frank) has been doing performance heads for 15 years, and not a month passes that he's not working a set of heads that cost in the $5,000.00+ range, and when not doing these, he building the local circle track heads, and every thing running the drag strip. Not only have the best in the business prepared these heads.
We do have all the nessasary hardware at an additional cost. (Best prices on the market) We offer these heads in bare form, as many customers have selected a machine shop of there choice, as well as there own hardware. We hope you will check out our other auctions for the many other items we have available.
Check our other listing for fully assembled heads. They include everything, except roller rockers. The fully assembled heads come with premium Sinus valves, pro-series springs, guide plates, keepers, retainers, spring locators. Heads are cleaned before and after assembly. Remember this info on the hardware is for those choosing to purchase the completely assembled heads in our other listings. We have these listed as such in our other listings, as well as many other great items for Big Block engines. The valves we use are some of the best valves in the world. Sinus, out of Israel. They are extreme duty, REM FLOW DESIGN Excellent for forced induction setups. These valves are normally sold to professional racing engine builders. This valve will cover just about any type usage. These are a must if your planing on serious horsepower. We can list the hardware at discount price should you prefer to assemble the heads your self. Check our other listings for these heads. Please consider this when buying valves. This is one of the most important aspect of a premium buildup on heads. Email us, should you want items not mentioned. We will list them. Remember the heads listed are bare, without hardware. info@whiteperformance.net
CHECK OUT OUR OTHER LISTINGS ON PRO. PRODUCTS ALUMINUM INTAKE MANIFOLDS FOR BIG BLOCK ENGINES. WE DO HAVE THE BEST PRICE ON THESE.
See our other listings for race ser. roller rockers,
We stongly recommend the stainless steel roller rockers below for extreme service. They are not included with the heads, see our other listing.
SEALED POWER HYDRO LIFTERS HT-817 THESE THE BEST LIFTERS MONEY CAN BUY. SEE OUR OTHER LISTINGS. SUMMIT RACING SELLS THESE FOR MUCH MORE THAN WE DO.
Check our other listings for titanium retainers. No one offers titanium retainers for the price we have them for. Have you noticed that titanium scrap value is at the all time high. This price is untouchable, and we strongly recommend these on solid roller applications. See our other listings.
We also have the Fel Pro 1047 heads gaskets listed, and the 1275 intake gaskets.
Give us a call if you need technical data on these heads. Ask for Charlie, or Travis. Paypal, or credit card calls for those without a paypal account or having dificulty are welcome or you may mail your check to us.
423-722-5152 IS OUR NUMBER. Calls are to be breif on tech support, as we are short on staff at the moment.
If you do not have such a shop to do your assembly, we would be glad to do this for you. See our other listings for the fully dressed out heads. We truly have one of the best head builders in the country.
Below are the head specs, and feel free to give us a call if you have any questions. If your interested in purchasing the hardware, we will need to know your cam type and profile, or at least an estimated range the cam you have is in.
APPLICATION
For Street, drag race and power boats
Intake valves 2.250 +250, we do have these in stock
Exhaust valves 1.880 +100 we do have these in stock
You can not run stock GM bbc valves in these heads. They are to be as listed above.
Specifications
Competition Valve Job
Head Torque Settings 65-7Oft lbs Short (7/16) 70-75ft lbs Long
Rocker stud torque settings 50ft lbs
Combustion chamber 119cc
Spring pocket Is 1.6250”, no deeper
Rocker 1.7 ratio
Intake face angle 90 deg.
Manganese Bronze Guides
Installed Height 200+
Rolled over valve angles and better flowing ports give you all the advantages o’ a custom one off cylinder head at a more affordable price. We can also supply you with items such as the Procomp Race version roller rockers. Check out our other listings. We also have head gaskets, intake gaskets, intake manifolds, listed. Give us a call and ask for Charlie or Travis for technical info on these heads. 423-722-5152 ALTERNATE PHONE NUMBER.
We will ship this item to Canada via UPS to ensure insurance on your heads and help with shipping costs. The cost for each set of heads to Canada is $86.00
WE OFFER GREAT DISCOUNTS ON SHIPPING. YOU PAY THE FULL SHIPPING FEE ON THE HIGHEST SHIPPING COST OF THE FIRST ITEM, AND HALF PRICE SHIPPING ON ALL ADDITIONAL ITEMS. FEW OFFER DISCOUNTS ON SHIPPING SUCH AS THIS. EMAIL US USING THE ASK SELLER A QUESTION TAB, IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CALCULATE YOUR SHIPPING COST ON MULTIPLE ITEM ORDERS
IF YOU ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY PAYING WITH PAYPAL, FEEL FREE TO GIVE US A CALL AT 423-722-5152 ASK FOR SARA OR STACIE. HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 9am-10pm AND 10am-8pm MON.-FRI.
HOURS OF OPERATION ARE 9am-10pm MON-FRI, CALL US AT 423-722-5152 EASTERN TIME ZONE, SHOULD YOU HAVE A CUSTOMER SERVICE ISSUE. REMEMBER THIS IS THREE HOURS LATER THAN WEST COAST PACIFIC TIME.
are they good heads
The area code is my neck of the woods. Have you a copy of the ebay add and I can tell you "who" they are coming from...

[hotbo]

i have 2 sets of the things running around andwhen my head guy set them up they looked great in his opinion and mine to.they maybe junk but have not have anyproblems as of yet,but then again all motors at 1 point will have problems just easier to blame on cheap stuff:idea: i liked them.:D

[DUCKY]

Hey Scott
Now we are going to have to worry about Mom breaking out:D
See you kids in MF
Better heads....Hopefully no nitrous......We'll see..... Are you actually going to TX? If you need a place to crash on the way let me know.

[bp]

Its raining,wind blowing,and muddy.Not for me.Maybe I will just rent a boat,like Lipinski.
sounds like my kinda weather, as long as it's hot and humid. i'm sure you could find something to rent.. maybe hb's old bgj?
you put that hydro together yet? i hear the cheyenne is 4sale?

[Liberator TJ1984]

sounds like my kinda weather, as long as it's hot and humid. i'm sure you could find something to rent.. maybe hb's old bgj?
you put that hydro together yet? i hear the cheyenne is 4sale?
If it gets Too Hot for ya BP ? I can hose ya down on the holding rope again this year :devil: :D
J/K ..good luck to ya ! my POS is staying in the barn this year :( :D

[DUCKY]

I just got off the phone with Kincaid.... I guess these intake ports come cast on the small side.... If using a rectangular port intake much grinding is required....

[obnoxious001]

If anyone in So Cal wants to see a bare set,, I have a new pair here. Not terrible looking for the price. I would sell this set cheaper than the Ebay price if someone wants them.
The intake ports do come short. I believe that Pro Comp offers 3 stages of porting also, but the "as cast" version the runners are about .200" shorter than the gasket. Width is pretty close to gasket.
One other interesting footnote. Talking to the guy who does cylinder head porting for Teague Custom Marine, he told me the Toplines that he did dynoed just a bit better than the CNC Brodix heads.

[Liberator TJ1984]

If anyone in So Cal wants to see a bare set,, I have a new pair here. Not terrible looking for the price. I would sell this set cheaper than the Ebay price if someone wants them.
The intake ports do come short. I believe that Pro Comp offers 3 stages of porting also, but the "as cast" version the runners are about .200" shorter than the gasket. Width is pretty close to gasket.
One other interesting footnote. Talking to the guy who does cylinder head porting for Teague Custom Marine, he told me the Toplines that he did dynoed just a bit better than the CNC Brodix heads.
if anyones interested I can post my flow #'s for the otta da box 320 ProToplines > bought in 2003 ? for comparison or I can fax the sheet to ya ?:idea:

[pw_Tony]

if anyones interested I can post my flow #'s for the otta da box 320 ProToplines > bought in 2003 ? for comparison or I can fax the sheet to ya ?:idea:
Would love to see some flow charts, haven't been able to get a straight answer on that yet. Did you flow them yourself?

[Liberator TJ1984]

Engine builder flowed them before putting them on my motor , just for sheets and grins, give me a fax # and I'll send it ....maybe you can post them ? I don't have a scanner .

[pw_Tony]

Check PMs.

[DUCKY]

Here are a few pics of these heads. I "painted" the area that I had to grind away to show you how much grinding was required to make them match a Fel-Pro 1275 intake gasket. I am sure you guys will notice that I payed more attention to the gasket match and didn't remove as much material from the inside as I could have.... I was just playing it safe...No time to weld up any screw ups!:D
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/one.JPG
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/SSPX00081.JPG
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/SSPX0010.JPG
Anyways, like someone else said, the port width and floor were pretty close. I only had to remove about .060" from one side of each port and maybe .100" from the floor. I had to remove over .200 from the roof of each port though but it didn't take very long with the right bit. I also cleaned up the sharp edges left behind from the tapping of the spark plug holes and machining for the valve seats. I know I could have taken away more meat from inside the ports, but what I did do took me about 3 hours for both heads.

[Liberator TJ1984]

Check PMs.
CK Fax :D

[pw_Tony]

Original Pro Topline heads. Not mine, their Liberators
http://i18.tinypic.com/4ytukno.jpg

[Liberator TJ1984]

JFYI , the circled areas were just highlighted at .600 because that is the area of lift my cam is . a little baby ! only .602/615 :rolleyes: :D
you really needed to run over .700 to take full advantage of these heads potential.
NOTE : FLOW #'s are for PRO TOPLINES ........ not the PROComp's

[rat tuned]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BIG-BLOCK-BBC-CHEVY-ALUMINUM-HEADS-BARE-454-496-502_W0QQitemZ260144875048QQihZ016QQcategoryZ33617Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohost ing
this place has over 15K positive feedback. you would think that with all the procomp head issues others have had there would have to be a couple of negatives!! mike

[stoker2001]

Better heads....Hopefully no nitrous......We'll see..... Are you actually going to TX? If you need a place to crash on the way let me know.
Thanks for the offer Scott
Stacie actually has to work at least a half day on wednsday and it is 30 hours fron Sacto,we are trying to figure out how to do this in two 15 hour sessions with a little sleep in between and still get to Mfs on friday to tech the boat in:confused:

[DUCKY]

30 hours? Ouch!!! Hopefully we'll see ya there!

[cfm]

ProComp fraudently sells/advertises/ manufactures their stuff directly hurting real American performance corporations. MSD just finished a legal battle against them and won.
If they where better than anything else out there, I would bever buy them nor not say anything if I see others buy them.
There is a reason why other companies charge more $$$$ and it's not just a parts reason.
Every pair that get's bought from them, makes them stronger. This, we do not want.
IMO .

[cfm]

Please read:
http://byunspeed.com/Port%20Job.pdf
http://www.msdignition.com/indexoldie.html
Where topic heading says "Permanent Federal Injunction Granted!"

[502 JET]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BIG-BLOCK-BBC-CHEVY-ALUMINUM-HEADS-BARE-454-496-502_W0QQitemZ260144875048QQihZ016QQcategoryZ33617Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohost ing
this place has over 15K positive feedback. you would think that with all the procomp head issues others have had there would have to be a couple of negatives!! mike
Thats because people receive thier order and leave feedback before using the sh!t. Once feedback is posted you cant change it.

[DUCKY]

Not trying to defend ProComp here. I read the articles you attached and understand where you are coming from. However, nowhere in the ebay listing from which I purchased these heads did it mention that these heads were AFR's Edelbrock's etc... nor did it mention those brands even for comparison purposes. It said ProComp Aluminum heads for BBC and gave their specs. I knew full well I was purchasing a chinese made part. What I am getting at is that I do not see the false advertising, and/or any fraudulent misleading statements. If this place was trying to put themselves on par with the likes of AFR, Edelbrock, Dart, Pro Topline, Brodix, etc... I would have never purchased them because I would have already known they were full of it....

[DUCKY]

Thats because people receive thier order and leave feedback before using the sh!t. Once feedback is posted you cant change it.
Not me, I am not posting feedback until after we use them.

[gn7]

they are a direct counterfeit copy of pro topline and it was deliberate as hell

[cfm]

GN7 (and others) go halfway down the first post of this thread to where you see the words 'Pro Topline.' Read the sentence that it is in.....a few times.
This schit really bothers me...as we all know.
Their are counterfeits in many other industries shipping out of China. It's all fun and games until they rip you off and throw your job in the garbage. And then your neighbors, and then your kids, and then........
Not everyone knows who's scamming who. Cool thing about the internet is we can reach more people to expose these people/companies/countries and let the truth come out.

[DUCKY]

This is a copy of the as from which we got our heads... We bought them from an Ebay Power Seller, GR8 Hot Rods.com
Once again no mention of any competitors.....
Meet the seller
Seller: gr8hotrods( 5405Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999) Member is a PowerSeller
Feedback: 99.9% Positive
Member: since Apr-01-99 in United States
Item location: Los Angeles, CA, United States
Quantity: 9 available
THIS AUCTION IS FOR A PAIR OF BBC CHEVY PRO SERIES BARE ALUMINUM PROCOMP CYLINDER HEADS (TWO HEADS)
Here you can see the highest flowing "non-ported" BBC Chevy BARE cylinder head sold on Ebay!
High flow 320 CC intake runners.
High flow exhaust ports.
115cc Combustion Chamber
Genuine ProComp High Performance Pro Series Aluminum Cylinder Heads
This is a BRAND NEW set of ProComp aluminum cylinder heads with full factory warranty.
- This offer is for a pair (2) of ProComp Pro Series 320cc 2.250+.250/1.880+.100 (stock valves will NOT work) BARE aluminum cylinder heads for std. 396, 454, 502, or stroker combos up to 496 cubic inches. These heads have 115cc combustion chambers! These are the perfect street/strip heads for your BIG block Chevy, 320cc intake ports are the perfect balance for a street/strip engine. Not too big where there is no low-end torque and not too small where the engine will make no top end power. Heads flow over 320CFM on the intake ports.
- Aircraft grade 356A aluminum alloy heat treated to T-6 specifications.
- Machined to accept high performance large diameter dual valve springs.
- Advanced port design for greater flow.
- Machined for 7/16” Rocker Studs. (3/8” step-down studs available upon request.)
- Fully CNC machined.
- Will accept all factory accessories. Heads are drilled with all OEM accessory bolt holes.
- .400" thick deck can be milled down to 110cc.
We also stock cylinder head components such as Rocker Arms, both Aluminum and Stainless Steel, Fabricated Aluminum Valve Covers, (see our other auction listings)
Once again, I know where you guys are coming from with the being pissed about the knockoffs....But they are not misleading anyone (in this instance). I knew exactly what I was buying.

[Liberator TJ1984]

GN7 (and others) go halfway down the first post of this thread to where you see the words 'Pro Topline.' Read the sentence that it is in.....a few times.
This schit really bothers me...as we all know.
Their are counterfeits in many other industries shipping out of China. It's all fun and games until they rip you off and throw your job in the garbage. And then your neighbors, and then your kids, and then........
Not everyone knows who's scamming who. Cool thing about the internet is we can reach more people to expose these people/companies/countries and let the truth come out.
as advertised :As with the existing Pro Top Line range, accuracy and detail are at there highest. We honestly feel there is not a better set of heads for the price. These heads are tried and proven.
Sure looks to me like they are banking on PRO-TOPLINES reputation:idea:
they advertise they flow over 320cfm on intakes ??? ....the original P-T's flow that at only .450 lift

[gn7]

ducky you seem like a fairly bright guy from the couple of times we have met, so follow along here. I need to regel coat my boat and was going to bring it to you, but first I need to do a air cond. job for a guy who works edelbrock, but he lost his job because of poor sales and I can't do the job,so now I'am painting my boat with a roller and house paint and you don't get the regel job. But that's O.K. because, you don't need all that much money because your buying offshore crap for your deal anyway. The differance between a recession and depression is that in a recession the guy next door loses his job, in a depression....YOU DO! Also don't blame the chinese for all of this, there is a red blooded AMERICAN a-hole behind all of this junk

[IMPATIENT 1]

they're still better, lighter than 990's;) which is why most are buyin them i think.not everyone can drop 2500-3k outta their pockets for good alum heads. for some, buyin these bare, having a machine shop 'fix" them and set them up is a cheaper option and its about the same as trying to build a set of 990's to do the same thing.990's wiegh 75lbs more. just my .02:D

[IMPATIENT 1]

ducky you seem like a fairly bright guy from the couple of times we have met, so follow along here. I need to regel coat my boat and was going to bring it to you, but first I need to do a air cond. job for a guy who works edelbrock, but he lost his job because of poor sales and I can't do the job,so now I'am painting my boat with a roller and house paint and you don't get the regel job. But that's O.K. because, you don't need all that much money because your buying offshore crap for your deal anyway. The differance between a recession and depression is that in a recession the guy next door loses his job, in a depression....YOU DO! Also don't blame the chinese for all of this, there is a red blooded AMERICAN a-hole behind all of this junk
i agree with ya, and i'm currently feeling it my my profession(auto dealership). more and more peeps are buyin foriegn "american built" cars and trucks, which has pulled $$$ from my brand(gm).
on the other hand, its also like sayin not to run eagle or scat stuff too though when you guys says stay american made. i can't afford a dragonslayer crank, so i have to buy eagle or scat forged just to go play. i don't like buyin offshore as much as the next guy, but when its all you can afford, sometimes you have too.if i had the $$$i'd build everything "american made" but its just not in the cards sometimes for us budget ***boaters.

[gn7]

it's not the inport part that bothers me, it's the counterfeiting part, passing them off as something they are not. Remember pro-toplines are import too. As for Scat, he ( Tom Lieb) isn't counterfeiting anything, and I assure you he employs 3 times as many people as pro-comp. I'am all for open competetion, it's the underhanded thievery that bothers me.

[IMPATIENT 1]

it's not the inport part that bothers me, it's the counterfeiting part, passing them off as something they are not. Remember pro-toplines are import too. As for Scat, he ( Tom Lieb) isn't counterfeiting anything, and I assure you he employs 3 times as many people as pro-comp. I'am all for open competetion, it's the underhanded thievery that bothers me.
so you don't wanna buy any of these bootleged "hot rod" dvd's??j/k:D i feel ya man, these days everyone is stealing from everybody and callin it free enterprising.wish someone would build a cheaper jetaway:D :D :D :D

[DUCKY]

they're still better, lighter than 990's;) which is why most are buyin them i think.not everyone can drop 2500-3k outta their pockets for good alum heads. for some, buyin these bare, having a machine shop 'fix" them and set them up is a cheaper option and its about the same as trying to build a set of 990's to do the same thing.990's wiegh 75lbs more. just my .02:D
Exactly. That's why we bought these. 990's developed an un-repairable water leak, and we couldn't spend $2000+ on Dart's, AFR's, or Brodix's. Please keep in mind that this is my Mom's money I was spending here also and I tend to be more frugal with other people's money than my own.
PS, to GN7, thanks for the praises, and that's okay. I hate doing re-gel's anyways:D

[ck7684]

There are many BBC's in china and I'm sure they developed these through a vigorous racing campaign ;)

[gn7]

:D Now that was frickin FUNNY. If they start importing blocks and I build an entire motor with chinese crap from the carb to the oil pan (yes all out there except the block) and put it in a tiawan stamped camaro, can I run it in the import class?

[cfm]

ck7684 ans gn7 -
Thanks for the chuckle. LOL. Never expect to have a smile , or for that matter a laugh, in a thread like this. Funny stuff !
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I read the E-scam ad a few times over last few days and another thing they say keeps getting me: "We have the best cylinder head guy in the country....."
So, do they employ Darrin Morgan, Richard Maskin, Tony Mamo, Ray Franks, Lee Shepard, Joe Patelle, Alan Johnson, Warren Johnson, Larry Meaux, etc,etc,etc or any other person in the top 20,30, or 40 even of the 'best cylinder head guy in the country' list ?
Doh.
I know everyone uses the word best when marketing or just talking. But best cyl head guy in the country ? No way Jose !

[gn7]

which "country" are they referring to, this one or "that" one. Maybe his name is flo-so'good.

[cfm]

You bring up another good point.
I heard over in 'the other' country Sum Dum Gai is pretty good.

[Boostedballs]

Come on guys! You've all heard of a Chinese Blueprint havent you?
The only thing that comes out of China that can be considered ORIGINAL is, of course, fortune cookies! HAha.
We call it counterfit; they call it '3D modeling technology.'
They have infiltrated many industries and stolen prototype technology. In many cases, especially the toy industy, they have been able to duplicate and mass produce products before the original has even been on the shelf. This is why Hasbro and Mattel will not even talk about a new toy until it is shipping.
They also make complete 'Ferraris' there!
----At least the heads aren't made in Mexico! I've seen some small block 'Chevy' blocks out of Mexico that have lifter bores drilled so poorly that you can see misalignment with the naked eye!

[Oldsquirt]

The only thing that comes out of China that can be considered ORIGINAL is, of course, fortune cookies! HAha.
Sorry, but fortune cookies were invented in America. :)

[Boostedballs]

Sorry, but fortune cookies were invented in America. :)
HAHAHA! There you have it!