Your thoughts on a cool sleeper car

[socalmoney]

I am toying with the idea of building a sleeper car and was wondering what you guys thought about makes and models. I have always wanted to build up a BMW 2002. Very unassuming.
http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/3687

[YeLLowBoaT]

lincoln mark 8, with that twin over head cam V8. Its pretty much a sleep stock, retun the computer and you would have a nice package. Any they are cheap.

[rocket98]

Back in the day....... The engineers at the GM proving grounds outside of Phx. put a big block in a corvare.sp That thing was bad ass

[RitcheyRch]

A Gremlin or a Pacer.

[socalmoney]

I had an early 80s two door Ford Fairmont I thought would be a good build. Had a sweet bench seat in it.

[socalmoney]

A Gremlin or a Pacer.
Might be a bit too Wayne's Wold for me.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/4771-1973-AMC-Gremlin.jpg

[Ryphraph]

A good sleeper is a Volvo turbo wagon...
Ryph

[Devilman]

I had an early 80s two door Ford Fairmont I thought would be a good build. Had a sweet bench seat in it.
LOL, when I was looking around for an old beater for a daily driver, I ran across an early 80's Ford Granada with a 302 and a 3 speed stick on the floor, from the factory. It was pretty funny, f*cking with people at the lights. :eek: :D

[spectras only]

My buddy just picked up a 1992 BMW M 5 .Remove the badges and it's an instant sleeper ;) .
I have a 04 Lincoln LS Ultimate, DOHC 32 valve , VT camshaft , 5 spd Getrag manumatic tranny etc.....
Did 14.2 sec on the 1/4 using the auto mode . Guys with 150 shot nitrous reports awesome times ;) .
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/LS%20front%20profile.jpg

[socalmoney]

This is a cool sleeper. 1981 Ford Fairmont Wagon 14.9 1/4 mile.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/5377-1981-Ford-Fairmont.jpg

[RitcheyRch]

My old sleeper. Bought it from my uncle in Oklahoma for $800 and drove it home. Ran low 11's at Palmdale. Had a 350 bored 0.060 over with 11.5:1 compression, steel crank, camel back heads, Edelbrock Torker manifold and a Holley 750 on it. Engine was out of his old Saugus Sportsman car.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Side-med.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Front-med.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Back-med.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Engine_New-med.jpg

[spectras only]

I have always wanted to build up a BMW 2002. Very unassuming.
http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/3687
If you build a 2002 TI it won't be unassuming to the sharp eye :idea: :)

[Just Electric]

datson 510 with a fjl40 twin cam twin turbo skyline motor. car would beat aningthing you put next to it canyon drag etc etc

[thatguy]

Easy, 1970-71 Old 455 station wagon. My buddies parents had one we used to steal as teenagers. We called it the "Moto-missle"
Bast*rd had to be 30' long and was scary fast. Could power brake it and just melt the tires. Tommy

[Devilman]

My old sleeper. Bought it from my uncle in Oklahoma for $800 and drove it home. Ran low 11's at Palmdale. Had a 350 bored 0.060 over with 11.5:1 compression, steel crank, camel back heads, Edelbrock Torker manifold and a Holley 750 on it. Engine was out of his old Saugus Sportsman car.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Engine_New-med.jpg
Whats the deal with that exhaust set up? :confused: :D Definitely a sleeper though.

[Jbb]

Brown sleeps in his car....:D

[RitcheyRch]

My crazy uncle flipped the exhaust manifolds over. Basically, the drivers side is flipped and on the passenger side and the passenger side is flipped and on the drivers side. I wrapped the exhaust in an attempt to keep the heat down in the engine compartment. Couldnt find any headers for it and they wanted more money to make custom ones than what I paid for the car.
The front suspension was an old Corvair because the stock Opel suspension couldnt take the extra weight of the engine.
Definitely was a sleeper. Was nice and quiet with the single exhaust.
Whats the deal with that exhaust set up? :confused: :D Definitely a sleeper though.

[spectras only]

This would be unassuming ;) :D . Opel GT
http://stephenmason.com/cars/opelgtv8m.html
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Opel%20GT

[uvindex]

My old sleeper.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Side-med.jpg
Very cool. :)

[uvindex]

My crazy uncle flipped the exhaust manifolds over. Basically, the drivers side is flipped and on the passenger side and the passenger side is flip[ped and on the drivers side.That's not crazy, that's genuine American shade tree engineering!
I'd love to have that car to tool around on weekends. :)

[RitcheyRch]

Was fun. Weighed 2200 pounds with my fat ass in it.
Very cool. :)

[Cole Trickle]

Depending on your budget....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujsTZduMZAQ&mode=related&search=
Replace the badging with some E320 gear and your ready to go;):eek:

[Devilman]

My crazy uncle flipped the exhaust manifolds over. Basically, the drivers side is flipped and on the passenger side and the passenger side is flip[ped and on the drivers side. I wrapped the exhaust in an attempt to keep the heat down in the engine compartment. Couldnt find any headers for it and they wanted more money to make custom ones than what I paid for the car.
The front suspension was an old Corvair because the stock Opel suspension couldnt take the extra weight of the engine.
Definitely was a sleeper. Was nice and quiet with the single exhaust.
I gotcha, figured it was a clearance issue or something. Very cool sleeper. :D
I wasn't sure if they were still around anymore, but heres another possible sleeper, a Monster Miata.:D Supercharged 302 V8 stuffed in that rascal.
http://www.highwayone.com/Images/Photos/Mazda/01aaai/01aaai1.jpg
http://www.highwayone.com/Images/Photos/Mazda/01aaai/01aaai3.jpg

[thatguy]

My crazy uncle flipped the exhaust manifolds over. Basically, the drivers side is flipped and on the passenger side and the passenger side is flip[ped and on the drivers side. I wrapped the exhaust in an attempt to keep the heat down in the engine compartment. Couldnt find any headers for it and they wanted more money to make custom ones than what I paid for the car.
The front suspension was an old Corvair because the stock Opel suspension couldnt take the extra weight of the engine.
Definitely was a sleeper. Was nice and quiet with the single exhaust.
I built an '83 Luv truck for my Dad back in '86. Strong 350, turbo 350 trans., narrowed 28 spline 9" rear with the axles drilled for stock Isuzu wheels. Currey Int. had the housing and axles IN STOCK! That thing was easily the most wicked daily driver ever.
I used early 60's corvette "center dump" ex. manifolds. They were a bolt in. Had a good ex. shop finish out the system with 2" pipe and some sort of turbo-mufflers. Only thing was I had to cut the Accessory boss off the manifold.
Tommy

[ck7684]

When I was in high school, there was a kid that had a Pinto with a built 302 in it. That was pretty cool. My first car was a '77 Pinto Sportwagon :D

[RitcheyRch]

I thought about but didnt have any luck finding those manifolds
I built an '83 Luv truck for my Dad back in '86. Strong 350, turbo 350 trans., narrowed 28 spline 9" rear with the axles drilled for stock Isuzu wheels. Currey Int. had the housing and axles IN STOCK! That thing was easily the most wicked daily driver ever.
I used early 60's corvette "center dump" ex. manifolds. They were a bolt in. Had a good ex. shop finish out the system with 2" pipe and some sort of turbo-mufflers. Only thing was I had to cut the Accessory boss off the manifold.
Tommy
My first car was a '74 Pinto Wagon
When I was in high school, there was a kid that had a Pinto with a built 302 in it. That was pretty cool. My first car was a '77 Pinto Sportwagon :D
Those Monster Miata's are bad ass. Remember seeing them at the LA Auto Show many years ago.
I gotcha, figured it was a clearance issue or something. Very cool sleeper. :D
I wasn't sure if they were still around anymore, but heres another possible sleeper, a Monster Miata.:D Supercharged 302 V8 stuffed in that rascal.
http://www.highwayone.com/Images/Photos/Mazda/01aaai/01aaai1.jpg
http://www.highwayone.com/Images/Photos/Mazda/01aaai/01aaai3.jpg
My friend, Jim Gardella used to have one of those that he raced for years until he rolled it in Vegas. His ran 9's in the 1/4 mile. I remember it had a BBC in it and no blower.
This would be unassuming ;) :D . Opel GT
http://stephenmason.com/cars/opelgtv8m.html
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/Opel%20GT

[Just Electric]

rich has the cleanest 87 montecarlo ss he'd sell you

[socalmoney]

My old sleeper.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Front-med.jpg
This is what I am talking about. People would pull up and feel sorry for you driving that car, until the light turned green. Very cool.
Now tell me what is it. haha

[RitcheyRch]

It's a 1967 Opel Kadette and people did laugh. Would get some odd looks while was sitting at the light and start power braking it. The car would smoke the tires for blocks.
When was driving home from Meeker, Oklahoma on the 40 would have people pull up next to me and laugh. Then would nail the gas pedal and smoke the tires on the freeway passing them you should have seen their mouths drop.
Got decent mileage driving home because it had some 2.70 gears in it. I put 3.55's in it which woke it up with those small tires.
I had the car for a few years and then sold for $3K. Definitely made some money on the car.
This is what I am talking about. People would pull up and feel sorry for you driving that car, until the light turned green. Very cool.
Now tell me what is it. haha

[Tom Brown]

Reliant Robin

[RitcheyRch]

Thanks Justin and do think about selling it every now and then.
http://a587.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/68/55/101055586_l.jpg
http://a912.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/11/99/101049911_l.jpg
http://a524.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/32/59/101049523_l.jpg
http://a354.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/6/l_627c6291bfccd13f07722ad1545c6e11.jpg
rich has the cleanest 87 montecarlo ss he'd sell you

[Big Inch]

I'd recommend my daily driver. Chrysler 300c SRT8. Stock 12.9 quarter mile 4.3 second 0-60 top speed of about 175 insane braking and handling is unbelievable. My wife took it to work the other day and came back all happy because some guy in a Porsche tried to race her and she smoked him. She said at the next light the guy wouldn't even pull up next to her. He just stayed back a car length then made the next turn :D

[Just Electric]

Thanks Justin and do thinka bout selling it every now and then.
http://a587.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/68/55/101055586_l.jpg
http://a912.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/11/99/101049911_l.jpg
http://a524.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/32/59/101049523_l.jpg
http://a354.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/6/l_627c6291bfccd13f07722ad1545c6e11.jpg
jeez louis rich its still as clean when you bought it bringin back the old street racen days right there.ill try and dig up my old 510 racer pics

[Cole Trickle]

I'd recommend my daily driver. Chrysler 300c SRT8. Stock 12.9 quarter mile 4.3 second 0-60 top speed of about 175 insane braking and handling is unbelievable. My wife took it to work the other day and came back all happy because some guy in a Porsche tried to race her and she smoked him. She said at the next light the guy wouldn't even pull up next to her. He just stayed back a car length then made the next turn :D
Only a couple have gone into the 12's stock and that was in good air at a good track;):D
I have had decent luck/fun against them in my GTO. Bitchin cars and a great opponent.
<----- will look for your wife:D:devil:

[HEDJUG]

(sorry to argue but the above srt8 has a "high 13's 1/4 & "low 5sec 0-60 stock, no where near 12.9)
I think I drive the perfect sleeper.
4 banger station wagon
Good drivers can get 13.9 1/4's (C&D gets 14.2)
Fulltime AWD, can race in rain, snow or mud.
2-3k investment & she will run a Z06.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/7990newtoy.jpg

[RitcheyRch]

Only driven to the Super Chevy Show every year. Come home and hang the winning plaque and park the car until next year. :D
Here is my wall of shame.
http://a751.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/65/l_3828fa5c7f0afc492be72d2541fbafc6.jpg
jeez louis rich its still as clean when you bought it bringin back the old street racen days right there.ill try and dig up my old 510 racer pics

[yopengo]

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36753&stc=1&d=1186687650
Surprised a lot of Mustangs and Beamer’s in this. :D :idea:

[SB]

My old sleeper. Ran low 11's at Palmdale.
Cool car, but I dunno about the ET.:)

[SB]

You could consider the Caprice/Impala clone.
Get a 90s Impala, or get the Caprice, put a 350 hp crate motor in, get some better wheels, maybe some paint. Fairly inexpensive, the sbc already fits.

[Keith E. Sayre]

best one I ever saw. I don't have a photo though. It used to belong to Bill Cosby and it's in Havasu now in a storage unit. A 1964 Ford Fairlane with
a factory 427 SOH"C with twin belt driven Paxton superchargers. It looked
like my grandmothers car until he started it up and then WOW!
Keith Sayre
Magic Boats

[Racey]

Datsun 280z with an LS1 :D
or a Volkswagen Beetle with a front engine BBC, driven from the back seat :D

[Cole Trickle]

Datsun 280z with an LS1 :D
or a Volkswagen Beetle with a front engine BBC, driven from the back seat :D
Also a RX7 with a heads/cam LS1 runs hard!!!

[Cole Trickle]

Saw a mid 90's imp at the Super Chevy show last year. I have no idea what it had under the hood but it had remote cut-outs so you could stand right next to it and talk and it just sounded like a quiet turbo muffler. But then he would flip the switch in the box do the sickest burnout and run in the mid 9's. Oh and on the return lane he'd switch back to quiet exhaust and pick up his 2 buddies in the back seat with a FULL CAGE!
I have seen that car. pretty sure its a big cube LT1 car with twins making alot of boost. I don't know if I saw him run mid 9's back in 01 but he did run in the 10's at over 130 with car seats in the back:D

[Cole Trickle]

Here is a true sleeper.
This guy made alot of $$$ until his truck became infamous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8NwWBIzllc&mode=related&search=
I think it went as fast as 10.1@140
You could build a 4x4 1500 regular cab pretty easy and pretty cheap if you knew what you were doing.

[MADDOG355]

One of the coolest sleepers I ever saw was about a 91? Buick Roadmaster wagon (complete with woodgrain on the sides). It was in hot rod mag years ago. Had a LT1 based motor (he ordered it with the LT1 from the factory) .
I always liked the Monties but not the SS, use a LT or a LS.
I have heard of a few Astro vans around with a small block, Thought about that one but they are heavy as snot!.
The BMW idea is cool, Been thinking about doing a older one for a while.

[socalmoney]

The BMW idea is cool, Been thinking about doing a older one for a while.
I grew up spending all my money making my 66 mustang go as fast as I could. This kid down the street had an old beat up BMW 2002 and I always thought that would be a cool car with a small block V8.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/1972_bmw_2002_tii_front_view.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/1972_bmw_2002_tii_right_rear_view.jpg

[Big Kahunaa]

http://a912.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/11/99/101049911_l.jpg
we had a customer with a aero coupe from what i understand they are pretty rare

[socalmoney]

70 BMW 2002 Engine compartment. Looks like there is a decent amount of room in there.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/motor_when_purchased.JPG

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36753&stc=1&d=1186687650
Surprised a lot of Mustangs and Beamer’s in this. :D :idea:
Did you do an engine swap?

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

Might be a bit too Wayne's Wold for me.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/4771-1973-AMC-Gremlin.jpg
Mini tubs and wheelie bars... definately no sleeper there.:)

[beaverretriever]

My 91 Mustang coupe (my 5th one) Not really a sleeper with these wheels on it, but with a set of 15inch Steelies and 600+ hp it is definitely a sleeper. I had a buddy that had a coupe just like mine with black 15" Welds, primer everywhere and was running 9.90s. He drove the fricken thing to work all the time too. :eek:
http://www.hellodaly.com/images/mustang.jpg

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

This is a cool sleeper. 1981 Ford Fairmont Wagon 14.9 1/4 mile.
http://www.dragtimes.com/images/5377-1981-Ford-Fairmont.jpg
I love these cars. You can buy a bolt in 460 swap kit (w/ headers) and get that thing up to speed but around here you can't pass smog. 14.9 is almost embarrasing.

[Big Inch]

Only a couple have gone into the 12's stock and that was in good air at a good track;):D
I have had decent luck/fun against them in my GTO. Bitchin cars and a great opponent.
<----- will look for your wife:D:devil:
You are absolutely correct. Very few go into the 12's stock and even then it is only in perfect conditions. Gtos are always a fun race. Good sleeper too especially if you rebadge it as a Sunfire ;) ;)

[Cole Trickle]

My 91 Mustang coupe (my 5th one) Not really a sleeper with these wheels on it, but with a set of 15inch Steelies and 600+ hp it is definitely a sleeper. I had a buddy that had a coupe just like mine with black 15" Welds, primer everywhere and was running 9.90s. He drove the fricken thing to work all the time too. :eek:
http://images.kodakgallery.com/servlet/Images/photos1215/1/61/72/51/93/8/893517261106_0_BG.jpg?a=753
http://images.kodakgallery.com/servlet/Images/photos1215/1/61/72/51/70/4/470517261106_0_BG.jpg?a=753
Red X's:(
I had a 90 No options 5 speed notch that was alot of fun.(Sold it to pay property tax:()
low 12's with cat back and a 125 shot on factory crap lock with 3:08's. Car hooked prety hard as it was and I was gonna throw 3:73's a locker and another 50hp at it:D
After it blew I was gonna throw a H/C LS1 in to freak people out..lol

[superdave013]

My old sleeper. Bought it from my uncle in Oklahoma for $800 and drove it home. Ran low 11's at Palmdale. Had a 350 bored 0.060 over with 11.5:1 compression, steel crank, camel back heads, Edelbrock Torker manifold and a Holley 750 on it. Engine was out of his old Saugus Sportsman car.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Side-med.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Front-med.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Opel_Back-med.jpg
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/11726Engine_New-med.jpg
my first car was a '68. It had the 1.1L powerhouse of a 4 banger. It turned out to be a pretty good bean field car. lol

[Cole Trickle]

You are absolutely correct. Very few go into the 12's stock and even then it is only in perfect conditions. Gtos are always a fun race. Good sleeper too especially if you rebadge it as a Sunfire ;) ;)
It's a cavalier;):D
I have an 06. There not as unsuspenting with the hood scoops and dual exhaust.:jawdrop:

[Big Inch]

(sorry to argue but the above srt8 has a "high 13's 1/4 & "low 5sec 0-60 stock, no where near 12.9)
I'm sorry to argue but you are wrong. Stock Srt8s do go in the 12's. Not all of them but some do and they are not a low 5, 0-60 car. If I had my digital camera I'd go out to my car and pull up the evic display with my 0-60 timer and post a picture of low 4 second 0-60 times. Nifty little feature that Chrysler put into the 07's.

[Big Inch]

<----- will look for your wife:D:devil:
ROFL I missed this when I read it the first time.

[Cole Trickle]

I'm sorry to argue but you are wrong. Stock Srt8s do go in the 12's. Not all of them but some do and they are not a low 5, 0-60 car. If I had my digital camera I'd go out to my car and pull up the evic display with my 0-60 timer and post a picture of low 4 second 0-60 times. Nifty little feature that Chrysler put into the 07's.
Your not gonna read us 1/4 mile times off your G-Tech are you;):D
On average they seem to go mid to low 13's at 105-108. The standard 5.7 hemi cars are boring but that 6.1 is a burnout machine with TC off:D:devil:

[Big Inch]

It's a cavalier;):D
I have an 06. There not as unsuspenting with the hood scoops and dual exhaust.:jawdrop:
Aww come on. You know the first thing every sunfire/cavalier owner does is go to Pep Boys and buy the chrome exhaust tips and pseudo carbon fiber hood with ram air scoops:jawdrop:

[Cole Trickle]

ROFL I missed this when I read it the first time.
My better half likes to roll around in the GTO. she gets way more races than I do:(:)
She came home one day and said she beat a turboed GTO to 100 pretty bad because he couldn't hook. I thought she was imbelishing but I was browsing the GTO forums and the guy told a story of a girl in corona that smoked him and then offered to give him driving instrustions...lol The guy was making 550+ to the wheels and running street tires so I understand the loss.:D

[beaverretriever]

This pic should be working...
My 91 Mustang coupe (my 5th one) Not really a sleeper with these wheels on it, but with a set of 15inch Steelies and 600+ hp it is definitely a sleeper. I had a buddy that had a coupe just like mine with black 15" Welds, primer everywhere and was running 9.90s. He drove the fricken thing to work all the time too. :eek:
http://www.hellodaly.com/images/mustang.jpg

[Cole Trickle]

Aww come on. You know the first thing every sunfire/cavalier owner does is go to Pep Boys and buy the chrome exhaust tips and pseudo carbon fiber hood with ram air scoops:jawdrop:
Don't hate on Pep Boys..........and I got the chrome ram air scoops and the carbon fiber tip;):D

[Cole Trickle]

This pic should be working...
I can see 1 now....
Nothing sleeper about a notch with a 2" cowl;):D

[Big Inch]

Your not gonna read us 1/4 mile times off your G-Tech are you;):D
On average they seem to go mid to low 13's at 105-108. The standard 5.7 hemi cars are boring but that 6.1 is a burnout machine with TC off:D:devil:
I wouldn't dare think of reading off G-tech times. They would be Dashhawk times of course :D

[beaverretriever]

I can see 1 now....
Nothing sleeper about a notch with a 2" cowl;):D
LOL... Yeah, mine is definitely not a sleeper but cool nonetheless... Stock hood and black aluminum 10hole CHP wheels are definitely sleeper.

[socalmoney]

I love these cars. You can buy a bolt in 460 swap kit (w/ headers) and get that thing up to speed but around here you can't pass smog. 14.9 is almost embarrasing.
I agree about the time. This car with a 460 would be a lot of fun. What is the smog cut off these days.

[Cole Trickle]

LOL... Yeah, mine is definitely not a sleeper but cool nonetheless... Stock hood and black aluminum 10hole CHP wheels are definitely sleeper.
I see a notch and I think 2 things.....
Race or CHP;):D
I still miss my original sleeper;)
http://home.earthlink.net/~brandinss/SS/Car/Car_3.jpg
I got so much action in that car...lol

[Cole Trickle]

I wouldn't dare think of reading off G-tech times. They would be Dashhawk times of course :D
Spoken like a true SRT owner:D

[Big Inch]

My better half likes to roll around in the GTO. she gets way more races than I do:(:)
She came home one day and said she beat a turboed GTO to 100 pretty bad because he couldn't hook. I thought she was imbelishing but I was browsing the GTO forums and the guy told a story of a girl in corona that smoked him and then offered to give him driving instrustions...lol The guy was making 550+ to the wheels and running street tires so I understand the loss.:D
That is hilarious. I can see my wife rubbing it in like that too. Dam woman, they are all smart asses. Why is it that I very rarely have anyone try to race me on the street yet it seems like a regular occurence for the wife and she doesn't even hardly drive the car. Says it scares her yet she's willing to race anyone that looks at her cross-eyed. Maybe if I wear a blonde wig and put a couple balloons in my shirt I can get more takers.
I'm off to go search the Porsche forums:)

[Cole Trickle]

That is hilarious. I can see my wife rubbing it in like that too. Dam woman, they are all smart asses. Why is it that I very rarely have anyone try to race me on the street yet it seems like a regular occurence for the wife and she doesn't even hardly drive the car. Says it scares her yet she's willing to race anyone that looks at her cross-eyed. Maybe if I wear a blonde wig and put a couple balloons in my shirt I can get more takers.
I'm off to go search the Porsche forums:)
Back in the day we used to cruise around on friday/saturday nights looking for action. Now I drive to work (in traffic) and drive home.
I did get some high speed runs with a newer 645ci and M3 on the way to havasu 2 weeks ago. M3 ran up on me at about 100 while I was cruising 85. took me until 130 to pull on him. Autos suck from high speed rolls:mad: :)

[Big Inch]

Back in the day we used to cruise around on friday/saturday nights looking for action. Now I drive to work (in traffic) and drive home.
I did get some high speed runs with a newer 645ci and M3 on the way to havasu 2 weeks ago. M3 ran up on me at about 100 while I was cruising 85. took me until 130 to pull on him. Autos suck from high speed rolls:mad: :)
That's the SRT sweet spot right there. 3rd gear about 90-135ish is fricken insane. You punch it at 90 and it's all about...hold onto your butt. Then it gets fun again about 150 on up

[Cole Trickle]

That's the SRT sweet spot right there. 3rd gear about 90-135ish is fricken insane. You punch it at 90 and it's all about...hold onto your butt. Then it gets fun again about 150 on up
My car is good at 65. It drops to 2nd and away we go. At 80 it bogs 3rd gear and starts to pull hard at 100. Stupid 4 speeds;)
I got walked by a guy in a modded evo from 85 a couple weeks back. he would leave when I got to his bumper and I would start to pull back the 3 cars around 100.
I would have got him from 60:devil:
The car needs another 100-150hp and converter to be exciting.(I miss by blown 6speed vette for freeway races)

[djunkie]

Not sure how much you wanna spend but I'd go get a Grand National. Most people have NO clue what those cars do. Personally I've been looking for a GMC Cyclone or Typhoon. Those were fun vehicles. :D :D

[Big Inch]

I got walked by a guy in a modded evo from 85 a couple weeks back.
Yeah, I think I found a nice quote to add to my signature.

[Cole Trickle]

Not sure how much you wanna spend but I'd go get a Grand National. Most people have NO clue what those cars do. Personally I've been looking for a GMC Cyclone or Typhoon. Those were fun vehicles. :D :D
Right.....when was the last time anyone saw a GN that hadn't had the boost knob cranked:D:idea:
I always loved the turboed 6's in both of those. Cyclone is alot lighter and easier on drivetrain parts. shoot it's been long enough where the younger generation might not know what it is. throw on some stock Sonoma take offs and terrorize the hood..:D

[Big Inch]

Right.....when was the last time anyone saw a GN that hadn't had the boost knob cranked:D:idea:
I always loved the turboed 6's in both of those. Cyclone is alot lighter and easier on drivetrain parts. shoot it's been long enough where the younger generation might not know what it is. throw on some stock Sonoma take offs and terrorize the hood..:D
I went for a test drive in a buick grand national with my dad when I was just a little kid. I'll never forget the salesman was driving and put a hundy on the dash and told me if I could reach it when he punched it I could keep it.

[Cole Trickle]

I went for a test drive in a buick grand national with my dad when I was just a little kid. I'll never forget the salesman was driving and put a hundy on the dash and told me if I could reach it when he punched it I could keep it.
What did you spend the benjamin on?:D
That story is older than both of us combined;) :devil:
Stock GN's ran what low 14's high 13's? (very fast for a 80's production car)

[djunkie]

Right.....when was the last time anyone saw a GN that hadn't had the boost knob cranked:D:idea:
I always loved the turboed 6's in both of those. Cyclone is alot lighter and easier on drivetrain parts. shoot it's been long enough where the younger generation might not know what it is. throw on some stock Sonoma take offs and terrorize the hood..:D
Thats what I'm thinking. They were very fast trucks but were hard on the drive train. I'm thinking of retiring the beater and getting something like this to drive. :idea:

[Cole Trickle]

Thats what I'm thinking. They were very fast trucks but were hard on the drive train. I'm thinking of retiring the beater and getting something like this to drive. :idea:
I haven't seen one in years. Have you checked the trader to see how spensive. you looking for something to play with or just a driver?
There is ony 2 for sale within 200 miles and they are 12-15K with a decent amount of miles.
If your looking for a toy there is much better deals on other cars.

[djunkie]

What did you spend the benjamin on?:D
That story is older than both of us combined;) :devil:
Stock GN's ran what low 14's high 13's? (very fast for a 80's production car)
My buddy has a real clean GN. Around 14k original miles. With some bolt ons and a good tires it runs very low 12's. Handles like shit but on the straights look out. Wayy different sensation that your average v-8 muscle car.

[djunkie]

I haven't seen one in years. Have you checked the trader to see how spensive. you looking for something to play with or just a driver?
Little of both. Probably use it more as a driver if i get rid of the Ranger. In stock form they are impressive. I'd probably just put a bigger intercooler and maybe some ECM work and thats it.

[djunkie]

I haven't seen one in years. Have you checked the trader to see how spensive. you looking for something to play with or just a driver?
Ya I just did a search on truck trader. Beaters are going for $10k+:( :(

[djunkie]

:idea: :idea: :idea:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=206230651&dealer_id=58178519&car_year=1992&model=TYPH&num_records=25&make3=&make2=GMC&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=500&marketZipError=false&model2=GMCSYCLON&search_lang=en&make=GMC&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=90717&advanced=&end_year=2008&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=8

[Cole Trickle]

:idea: :idea: :idea:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=206230651&dealer_id=58178519&car_year=1992&model=TYPH&num_records=25&make3=&make2=GMC&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&engine=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=500&marketZipError=false&model2=GMCSYCLON&search_lang=en&make=GMC&color=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceDESC&address=90717&advanced=&end_year=2008&doors=&transmission=&max_price=&cardist=8
buy a 99-02 camaro or Transam with a LS1. Pretty cheap these days. tons of parts and good on gas.

[djunkie]

buy a 99-02 camaro or Transam with a LS1. Pretty cheap these days. tons of parts and good on gas.
Not really into them. Plus I'd like to stay away from a V-8 car. I hate to get rid of my beater but I've had it for like 7 years and I'm ready to get something else. The Typhoon would be cool for work and breaking off the chumps in this town. :jawdrop: :D :D

[spectras only]

Only 200 Grand National X's were built with the ceramic turbo, try finding one ;) . Saw a few running low 10's at Mission raceway . Talk is talk , take a car to the dragstrip and post the numbers. The real sleeper around here is a modded street legal Mustang LX with a 460 in it . He ran
consistent 8's at Mission raceway years ago. :)

[Hallett19]

A few cars come to mind..
I saw an older Volvo wagon with a built 302 in it and an A4 tranny.
I like the late 90/early 2000 Honda Civic with a larger motor swap and turbo, I have seen guys run low 11's on those things, they sound awesome too.
Subaru makes a good sleeper.

[RitcheyRch]

In 1986 there were 200 made and they werent available on the West Coast. Mine is a 1987 and they made 6052 of which only 250 came with factory t-tops like mine although GM did not keep very good records of this so am told.
http://a912.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00101/11/99/101049911_l.jpg
we had a customer with a aero coupe from what i understand they are pretty rare
I think the '67 and '68 looked the same. I sure do miss this little car. last I heard the new owner took out the 350 and put in a Buick GN motor in it and it runs in the low 9's in AZ.
my first car was a '68. It had the 1.1L powerhouse of a 4 banger. It turned out to be a pretty good bean field car. lol

[Cole Trickle]

Not really into them. Plus I'd like to stay away from a V-8 car. I hate to get rid of my beater but I've had it for like 7 years and I'm ready to get something else. The Typhoon would be cool for work and breaking off the chumps in this town. :jawdrop: :D :D
I think either of the vehicle your looking at will end up being a money pit. It would cost more to replace the motor/trans than the vehicle is worth.
I have thought about selling the rhino and doing the blower on the GTO and then building a little street bug...:idea:

[djunkie]

I think either of the vehicle your looking at will end up being a money pit. It would cost more to replace the motor/trans than the vehicle is worth.
I have thought about selling the rhino and doing the blower on the GTO and then building a little street bug...:idea:
Keep the Rhino ya jackass!!!!!!!!! I thought about a bug too. But I know if I built another one like my old one it wouldn't work very well as a driver.

[Cole Trickle]

Keep the Rhino ya jackass!!!!!!!!! I thought about a bug too. But I know if I built another one like my old one it wouldn't work very well as a driver.
I don't need a bug but I have always wanted one:)
Rhino stays for now......We are actually gonna head out to johnson valley on saturday for the night, (guys trip)

[djunkie]

I don't need a bug but I have always wanted one:)
Rhino stays for now......We are actually gonna head out to johnson valley on saturday for the night, (guys trip)
Ahhh. How cute. :crossx: :crossx:

[maxwedge]

Mallet is swapping Corvette engines into Pontiac Solstices. I rather like the idea for a sleeper.:D
O-60 in 4.4
12.8 quarter
1.02 G's on the skidpad.
http://www.mallettcars.com/images/solsticev8black330.jpg
Check out their website here
http://www.mallettcars.com/solstice-conversion.htm

[pw_Tony]

This guy IO know has a 2003 Buick 2 door.
It is BADASS. It's blown, with nitrous v6. But the outside of it looks totally stock, except for some alloy wheels, nothing racey looking. He told me it's hilarious pulling up to Corvettes and Camaros and whooping them on the street!
The car ran 203mph on the salt flats, which is Extremely impressive. Just did it to screw with people I guess. Here's a pic of what it looks like other than it's Silver.
http://i12.tinypic.com/67mzxxy.jpg
If anyone sees a Yellow submarine around Bullhead getting towed with an old orance Chevy C-10 that's him.

[mikes280]

here is what we call a sleeper in North Carolina:)

[uvindex]

here is what we call a sleeper in North Carolina:)Subtle! :)

[RitcheyRch]

Gotta love station wagons
here is what we call a sleeper in North Carolina:)

[maxwedge]

Being as how there is a 64 Rambler wagon sitting in my driveway right now awaiting it's own mods, I find this thing highly bad ass. I get the feeling that huge huffer isn't sitting on the factory 287/327 v8 though:D
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36773&d=1186705211
Can I get some more info on the car? Yours?

[Classic Daycruiser]

In the day....a vw bug's were turning 8 second quarter miles:idea:

[mikes280]

Being as how there is a 64 Rambler wagon sitting in my driveway right now awaiting it's own mods, I find this thing highly bad ass. I get the feeling that huge huffer isn't sitting on the factory 287/327 v8 though:D
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=36773&d=1186705211
Can I get some more info on the car? Yours?i wish it was, it belongs to a friend of mine this car is first class all the way and yes the blower does work car

[MADDOG355]

Not sure how much you wanna spend but I'd go get a Grand National. Most people have NO clue what those cars do. Personally I've been looking for a GMC Cyclone or Typhoon. Those were fun vehicles. :D :D
Good luck on finding a running Cyclone, Typhoon.
I worked at a GMC dealership in the 90's, And at one time we had 4 of them all with bottom end problems. One of them only had 12,000 miles.
A buddy of mine found a 81 Chevy Malibu wagon with a 305 and a factory 3 speed once. That car got a 468 and a 4 speed, tinted windows and black paint. looked great but the inside was bare. Made alot of money in that car.

[djunkie]

In the day....a vw bug's were turning 8 second quarter miles:idea:
I don't know about 8 second bugs. :rolleyes: The guy that built my race motor for my bug was the first in Ca. to break into the 10's. And I guarantee there aren't many faster. Mine ran high 12's low 13's and that felt insane in the car. I doubt there are many that run faster than low 10's.

[Itsahobby]

I always wanted to do a old Plymouth Valiant with the push button tranny. I saw on once with a Paxton supercharger. Pretty cool for a slant 6.

[RitcheyRch]

This one bad ass Opel GT.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3EaAeZG2_Yk

[pw_Tony]

I always wanted to do a old Plymouth Valiant with the push button tranny. I saw on once with a Paxton supercharger. Pretty cool for a slant 6.
My pops got a 1964 Valiant. 340, but it's not a sleeper, it's all pro-street. 3" wide tires in the fron, 18.5" wide in the back. Red and loud. Roll cage and all. I'll dig up some pics

[XtrmWakeborder]

This is a sleeper.... http://members.aol.com/gmcsyclone/about.html

[RitcheyRch]

Those are bad ass.
This is a sleeper.... http://members.aol.com/gmcsyclone/about.html

[PaPaG]

datson 510 with a fjl40 twin cam twin turbo skyline motor. car would beat aningthing you put next to it canyon drag etc etc
Good Old Datsun 510's We used to race them back in the early 80's to late 80's. I had 13 of them..1 even with a 350LT1 turbo 400 and 280zx rear end, and it looked stock except for the dual exhaust and lovered hood for cooling.
Ran low 13's with stock street tires, never got to try it with slicks..we were estimated high mid 12's with good hookup....others were with tilton race turbo motors, 2.2 napZ cross flow head motors and a bunch with just 1600, 1800 and 2000 motors..dual webs, turbos, nitros. Blow away most porsches in the mountain roads that is for sure...Good luck :D

[HEDJUG]

This post is about 1/2 sleepers & 1/2 cars that the entire world knows are fast & souped up.
So far the sleepers are:
-300c
-Ford station wagon
-WRX (wagon only) Non Wagons & STi's are not sleepers, unless the STi is de-badged & dewinged
-That Black Buick Regal the plain one
-Some of the pickups
-Volvo Wagon
-The new ultimate sleeper...
A de winged & de badged Evo X. There is very that tells you that car is a beast, add 2 k & you have a monster.
Stangs, Camaros, muscle cars, Grand Nationals, vetts, Cyclones, Typhoons & even SS's aren't sleepers.
Note:
The 86-87 Buick T-Type is a sleeper. The best one ever. It's a Grand National without the wheels & ectra body stuff. My buddie has a two toned grey/white one with old lady vinyl roof... 11.1sec 1/4

[RitcheyRch]

Agree, those Buick T-Types are good sleepers. I would take all the markings off and add a vinyl roof to make it appear to be a regular Regal.
This post is about 1/2 sleepers & 1/2 cars that the entire world knows are fast & souped up.
So far the sleepers are:
-300c
-Ford station wagon
-WRX (wagon only) Non Wagons & STi's are not sleepers, unless the STi is de-badged & dewinged
-That Black Buick Regal the plain one
-Some of the pickups
-Volvo Wagon
-The new ultimate sleeper...
A de winged & de badged Evo X. There is very that tells you that car is a beast, add 2 k & you have a monster.
Stangs, Camaros, muscle cars, Grand Nationals, vetts, Cyclones, Typhoons & even SS's aren't sleepers.
Note:
The 86-87 Buick T-Type is a sleeper. The best one ever. It's a Grand National without the wheels & ectra body stuff. My buddie has a two toned grey/white one with old lady vinyl roof... 11.1sec 1/4

[PaPaG]

This post is about 1/2 sleepers & 1/2 cars that the entire world knows are fast & souped up.
So far the sleepers are:
-300c
-Ford station wagon
-WRX (wagon only) Non Wagons & STi's are not sleepers, unless the STi is de-badged & dewinged
-That Black Buick Regal the plain one
-Some of the pickups
-Volvo Wagon
-The new ultimate sleeper...
A de winged & de badged Evo X. There is very that tells you that car is a beast, add 2 k & you have a monster.
tangs, Camaros, muscle cars, Grand Nationals, vetts, Cyclones, Typhoons & even SS's aren't sleepers.
Note:
The 86-87 Buick T-Type is a sleeper. The best one ever. It's a Grand National without the wheels & ectra body stuff. My buddie has a two toned grey/white one with old lady vinyl roof... 11.1sec 1/4
Sorry miss read the thread, I thought it was asking about cool sleepers, ok what about a 1978 280z with the trip turbo setup or a LT1350? or a sunbean tiger V8, am I close or still way off?

[maxwedge]

How about a 200 HP naturally aspirated Alfa Romeo Spider. May not seem like a lot but keep in mind it's basically a decades old design, 2 liter, 8 valve engine, it's in a very small car, and it's street driven. This guy is a legend over on the Alfa board.
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=43936&stc=1&d=1156949369
A little video of the alfa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf7TPmZadR0
Here is a link to his build-up.
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/showthread.php?t=29640
Another Alfa guy who's swapping a V8 into a spider.
http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/showthread.php?t=16373