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flattie
08-18-2007, 01:13 PM
Anybody running a dry sump system? What companies sell a stage 5 oil pan? Im really considering getting a dry sump system. Any body could point me in the correct direction would be appreciated

stickmann
08-18-2007, 01:49 PM
Aviad, Dooley, Armando, Olson

Running_on_Empty
08-18-2007, 02:29 PM
I'd be interested in your old pan

sanger rat
08-18-2007, 02:54 PM
Are you building a race boat or a lake boat?:idea:

Just-Jettin
08-18-2007, 05:00 PM
Stef's has done my last 4 pans and 3 of them were 5 stage dry sumps. Best pans hands down. Takes about a month and about $980.00.

steelcomp
08-18-2007, 05:16 PM
Stef's has done my last 4 pans and 3 of them were 5 stage dry sumps. Best pans hands down. Takes about a month and about $980.00.Ditto on the Stefs product. PM me or contact CStraub69 here on the boards if that's the way you want to go.

flattie
08-19-2007, 07:23 AM
Sanger rat Im building a fast lake boat I need a vacume pump on my engine so I figuered for a few more $ get it all at the first time

VDRIVERACING
08-19-2007, 10:02 AM
Anybody running a dry sump system? What companies sell a stage 5 oil pan? Im really considering getting a dry sump system. Any body could point me in the correct direction would be appreciated
This would be a good string for the how to section if you go forward. I've often thought about that direction, but I have never had an oiling problem with the regular pan. It would be interesting to learn about your motivation to switch, how you go about it, and what results you find.

biesemeyer34
08-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Billet Fabrication in Spokane extracts more horsepower out of an engine with a better design. They are in Spokane Washington 509-568-0428 www.billetfab.com

PGF500
08-19-2007, 09:00 PM
Steff's all the way. If Billet Fabrication's pans are anything like their valve covers I'd take my chances and not even run a oil pan. However if you think you are going to spend only a few more dollars you might rethink this project. You'll have about 6 grand in good stuff if you go new.

bondsman
08-19-2007, 09:25 PM
Don't get me started on billet fabrication pans!

Flat Magic
08-20-2007, 02:28 AM
I have a wiliams on one of my motors 951-245-7144 ask for mickey
moroso also is good.

VDRIVERACING
08-20-2007, 07:49 PM
Billet Fabrication in Spokane extracts more horsepower out of an engine with a better design. They are in Spokane Washington 509-568-0428 www.billetfab.com
I've read a sh%t load about this, and the prevailing opinion seems to be that HP gains, if any, are a welcome byproduct. These systems are all about superior oil supply for extremely demanding conditions, i.e., race motors.
I see them on a lot of boats, and they blow engines like the rest. The concept makes total sense, but have not been able to rationalize the (considereable) investment. I also wonder if all the extra pumps and hardware if overall reliability improves... For that kind of money, there needs to be some serious evidence a particular setup needs it..

steelcomp
08-20-2007, 09:39 PM
I've read a sh%t load about this, and the prevailing opinion seems to be that HP gains, if any, are a welcome byproduct. These systems are all about superior oil supply for extremely demanding conditions, i.e., race motors.
I see them on a lot of boats, and they blow engines like the rest. The concept makes total sense, but have not been able to rationalize the (considereable) investment. I also wonder if all the extra pumps and hardware if overall reliability improves... For that kind of money, there needs to be some serious evidence a particular setup needs it..I think if there's any hp to be gained, (and there definately is) Stefs is going to have the edge. The'yre on the leading edge of the technology, and doing continuous R&D on their products in some of the highest eschalons of racing. There are some seriously effective wet sump systems today, and combined with a good vac. system, there's probably not a lot more power to be found by switching to dry sump, but there is some. Ultimately I think the dry sump gives you much more control over your oil system, and much more assuredness that you're going to have oil when you need it, and where you need it. It can eliminate huge clearance issues with engine installations as well. Besides, what's cooler than a dry sump system if you can afford it? :D

PGF500
08-20-2007, 10:11 PM
The HP gains with dry sump systems are from being able to get the oil off the crank. You can actually do a fairly good job with a good external wet sump system, deep pan, relocated starter and a large kick out. On one of my engines and a couple that Just Jettin has had the pan nearly touched engine rails. In my opinion to save a few bucks and a TON of dead weight in the boat I'd go with a wet sump system. I'd almost bet you'd see more from the weight savings with a good external wet sump system than with the 15 to 20 hp gain in a full blast dry sump system.

cstraub
08-21-2007, 07:00 AM
At Stef's we build each pan per customers application. If you are after a 5 stage pan then you may want to consider a divider pan. The pan is sectioned off into 4 compartments. This system is the OPTIMAL in oil control.
We can supply a complete system less hose and fittings. Power gains will vary but 30HP average over the powerband is not unheard of over a normal wet sump system.

superdave013
08-21-2007, 07:28 AM
At Stef's we build each pan per customers application. If you are after a 5 stage pan then you may want to consider a divider pan. The pan is sectioned off into 4 compartments. This system is the OPTIMAL in oil control.
We can supply a complete system less hose and fittings. Power gains will vary but 30HP average over the powerband is not unheard of over a normal wet sump system.
Hey Chris, what if anything do you do different for the v drive boats with the engine mounted backwards? I got my hands on one of your offshore drysump pans. Thing is a monster and the kick out and screen looks great. Would this pan be ok to use in a v drive set up? Seems like it would but hey, might as well ask.

cstraub
08-21-2007, 07:49 AM
Dave,
Pickup placement may change by an 1" or so but not much difference. Your fine to run that on a V-drive.