Zeitgeist 2 hour movie. Conspiracy, 911 Religion

[iRepo]

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
There went my afternoon.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Sorry, you'll never get those 2 wasted hours back.

[bigq]

Sorry, you'll never get those 2 wasted hours back.
You think 100% of it is BS?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Depends on the definition of "BS" I guess.
It takes far less than 2 hours to figure out the conspiracists are nuts. Entertaining, but friggin' nuts.
That part would make it at minimum 75% BS.
The 9/11 conspiracies are 100% nuts, wacko, loony. The "building was demolitioned" stupidity, and soooooo much more. Every single one of them.
100% Bull-crap, maybe not.
More like 96.979%.
Again, a wasted 2 hours that could be better spent abusing yourself with a willow switch.

[SmokinLowriderSS]

"We've been lied to by every institution."
"The religious institutions of this world are at the bottom of the dirt."
"The religious institutions of this world are put there by the same people who gave you your govt, your corrupt education, who set up your intl. banking cartells, because our masters don't give a damn about you or your family.
All they care about is what they have always cared about which is controlling the whole damn world."
Conspiracy, pure and simple.
How many factual; errors is the movie to be allowed? It CLAIMS to be a DOCUMENTARY, exposing relaity, so I give it no quarter.
Funny lead-in by George Carlin. There's an authority, a comedian. :rolleyes:
I guess I'll address a few.
The information on Egyptian gods, is wrong. Look up Horus, Ra, Osiris, and compare them to the movie claims.
Horus was the WIND god, not the sun god.
Ra was the SUN god, not Horus. This is widely known. Even I ran accross the Sun God Ra over the years, without having to research it here.
The 3 wise men traveled WEST, FROM the East, to get to Bethleham, so just WHY would they follow some supposed possible alignment in a EASTERN sky constelation? That would be the loooooong way arround.
There is no connection to the Zodiac in Hebrew culture.
The Gregorian calendar (ours) and the jewish callendar do not coincide with the Zodiac calendar, at all.
Christians have always considered the zodiac to be a pagan belief.
Roman Emperor Constantine used the Edict of Milan as a method of control – not Christianity.
To stop the bloodshed, Constantine also legalized ALL religions, not just Christianity.
And the narrator also forgets that the Vatican contributed vastly to the Renascence, perhaps more so than they did the Dark Ages
December 25th, which was officially proclaimed by the church fathers in A.D. 440, was actually a vestige of the Roman holiday of Saturnalia, which it was "scheduled" to compete with. It appears NOWHERE biblically. According to latest belief (believe it or not) it is believed that Jesus' actual date of birth was sometime in August.
Try finding the names of "The Lawgivers" sometime. They are being given "life" by the movie that they did not have in reality, if they even existed (some have been un-locatable).
Now, part 2. If you want to know how and why the buildings fell, you have 2 choices for "experts"
A professor of astrophysics and philosophy, who is famous for other conspiracy theories.
A man whose profession for 30 years has been making big buildings fall down, in a controlled manner, using explosives, who's business was contracted to study the site, and explain what happened.
I'll take Brent Blancard's report, from Implosionworld. (http://implosionworld.com/)
Steel did not have to melt to colapse. Steel only has a fraction of it's cold strength when you heat it to over 1,000*F.
The "melted" colums from the basement?
Each floor, was held up by braces, that were designed to hold the floor's weight, likely double, safely.
Squeeze a material, ANY material, and you cause it to heat. A solid, a liquid, a gas. Simple physics. Law of conservation of energy.
When the colapse began, 15 to 25 floors, fell, landing on the solid floor below them.
For a split seccond they stopped, compressed the colums, then ripped the supports off, and fell another 10 feet, and repeated this feat, another 75 to 90 times (depending on which building). THIS repeat compressing can heat the steel beams tremendously, and very quickly. The basement colums absorbed every single blow, untill they were burried in insulating materials.
How much energy is transformed when 1/2 million TONS of matter falls down 1,000 feet while a couple hundred steel tubes try (in vain) to stop it every 10 feet?
Just splitting wood at my woodpile, will, after a half-hour or so, heat my splitting wedge to the point you do not want to pick it up and hold it for very long. That is from being hit by a 10-pound hammer a couple of hundred times or so, very hard.
There is soooo much more, but I have wasted enough of my life looking at another innaccurate display of conspiratorial crap being paraded as something factual.
My initial estimate was pretty close. 96.979% bull-crap.

[bigq]

I do not need convincing on the part II the science and math is clear for me that it was two planes that did it not an inside job. We could argue that we instigated it, but that is as far as i go.
I found part 1 and part 3 interesting and am looking up a lot of it. Some of part 3 seems to be true altough not clear if the intentions are as sydistic as the movie mentions. It is obvious to me though that the north american union could happen:rolleyes: .

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Depends on the definition of "BS" I guess.
It takes far less than 2 hours to figure out the conspiracists are nuts. Entertaining, but friggin' nuts.
That part would make it at minimum 75% BS.
The 9/11 conspiracies are 100% nuts, wacko, loony. The "building was demolitioned" stupidity, and soooooo much more. Every single one of them.
100% Bull-crap, maybe not.
More like 96.979%.
Again, a wasted 2 hours that could be better spent abusing yourself with a willow switch.
So you actually watched all 2 hours?

[SmokinLowriderSS]

So you actually watched all 2 hours?
Did I, or did I just watch more of it than you did?

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Did I, or did I just watch more of it than you did?
Did you watch the entire 2 hours or the entire movie?
And you give me a bad time for answering a question with a question. You crack me up.
Depends on the definition of "BS" I guess.
It takes far less than 2 hours to figure out the conspiracists are nuts. Entertaining, but friggin' nuts.
That part would make it at minimum 75% BS.
The 9/11 conspiracies are 100% nuts, wacko, loony. The "building was demolitioned" stupidity, and soooooo much more. Every single one of them.
100% Bull-crap, maybe not.
More like 96.979%.
Again, a wasted 2 hours that could be better spent abusing yourself with a willow switch.
A better question is at the time of the above post had you watched 96.979%. of the movie?

[iRepo]

Wikpedia claims Horus is a sun god or sky god, not wind.

['75 Miller]

Is this the same as the 9.11 conspiracy program that was on The History Channel last night? I watched a little of that one, (as much as I could stand). As intelligent as those "theorists" seem, they are complete bafoons. The Towers were wired to implode, a missle actually hit the Pentagon, the calls from doomed passengers on flight 93 were faked, etc. Obsurd.
If they REALLY believe that crap they need to be medicated, straight-jacketed and placed in padded rooms for life...at a minimum.
Any of you watch that program?

[Old Texan]

Is this the same as the 9.11 conspiracy program that was on The History Channel last night? I watched a little of that one, (as much as I could stand). As intelligent as those "theorists" seem, they are complete bafoons. The Towers were wired to implode, a missle actually hit the Pentagon, the calls from doomed passengers on flight 93 were faked, etc. Obsurd.
If they REALLY believe that crap they need to be medicated, straight-jacketed and placed in padded rooms for life...at a minimum.
Any of you watch that program?
Why???? Life's to short.:confused: Besides, I was busy killing snails on my rose bushes. Pesky lil' shits....:devil:
At least that Twinky eatin' machine M. Moore realizes he's full of it....these guys really bleive their own made up "theories".:eek:

[bigq]

Is this the same as the 9.11 conspiracy program that was on The History Channel last night? I watched a little of that one, (as much as I could stand). As intelligent as those "theorists" seem, they are complete bafoons. The Towers were wired to implode, a missle actually hit the Pentagon, the calls from doomed passengers on flight 93 were faked, etc. Obsurd.
If they REALLY believe that crap they need to be medicated, straight-jacketed and placed in padded rooms for life...at a minimum.
Any of you watch that program?
It has 3 parts and yes part 2 is the 9/11 crap. Not so much all the theories, but more along the lines of how we got into all the wars and the government provoked and looked the other way. Except for 9/11 where we actually did it ourselves:confused: .
It basically boils down to the big bankers run the USA with religion, war and the federal reserve.:rolleyes:

[SmokinLowriderSS]

Wikpedia claims Horus is a sun god or sky god, not wind.
Horus seems to have been a long-term, very popular god. Digging finds he covered a lot of ground.
According to ancienthistory.about.com:
Horus was the sky god.
Horus in statueary was depicted as a Falcon.
Horus in hyroglyphics was depicted as an eye.
Encyclopedia Mythica article on Horus. "The name "Horus" is a general catchall for multiple deities.... In all the Horus deities the traits of kingship, sky and solar symbology, and victory reoccur. As the prototype of the earthly king, there were as many Horus gods as there were rulers of Egypt, if not more."
According to touregypt.net:
Appearance: His most common form is that of falcon-headed man, but he is also shown as a falcon, a lion with the head of a falcon, or a sphinx. He is also shown as a falcon resting on the neck of the pharaoh, spreading his wings to either side of the pharaoh's head and whispering guidance in his ear.
He was brought from the outside by neighboring tribes as the god of war, but was quickly absorbed into the state religion,
first as a son of Ra,
then changing to become the son of Osiris.
He was the protector and guide to the pharaoh and later pharaohs were believed to be his avatar on earth.
Horus was also the patron of young men and the ideal of the dutiful son who grows up to become a just man.
VARIANTS:
Harmakhet, God of the dawn and of the morning sun, also a keeper of secret wisdom.
Har-Sa-Iset/Harsiesis
This is the form of Horus that is most familiar, the son of Osiris and Isis. He was conceived magically after the death of Osiris, and Isis hid him away on an island to protect him from Set. In this form he is worshipped as an infant and is beseeched to gain his mother's protection for the worshipper.
Horus Behudety/Horus of Edfu God of the noontime sun.
Horus the Elder (Haroeris)
An early form of Horus, when his cult was still new in Egypt. A god of light, his left eye was the sun and his right eye the moon. He was the brother of Osiris and Set, and the husband of Hathor.
Ra-Harakhte
A combined god of Horus and Ra, he was the god of the sun and took it on its daily path across the sky.
From egyptologyonline:
Horus was the god of the sky and the embodyment of divine kinship.
Ra was one of the original gods, according to my digging, and was simply the sun god. No other "aliases".

[ULTRA26 # 1]

Smokin,
Did you watch the entire video prior to 08-21-2007 post. In answer to your question I haven't watched any of it.

[bigq]

Horus was not the only one they spoke of. The movie claimed several jesus like people from different points in time and the world. They claim many the lives were very similar, born of virgin, heals, killed and rises from dead...you get the idea.