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BUSBY
08-19-2007, 11:30 AM
So ... I was in need of a rounded keel intake for a boat I am rebuilding ...
I came across an intake that needed work, but that was good for what I am looking for ... an intake that was worthy of modifying/rebuilding ...
I figured as I started this project, I would share my progress for those of you who are interested ...
I will be starting at clean up, work my way through the machine work for a shoe and ride plate, powder coating & finally installation ... it started this morning with about 2 hours of clean up ...
so, here we go ...

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 11:39 AM
I started with a donor rounded keel intake that was in need of serious work:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild001.jpg?t=1187551998
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild002.jpg?t=1187552036
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild003.jpg?t=1187552071
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild004.jpg?t=1187552107
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild006.jpg?t=1187552132
the passenger side intake fin has been severly ground down ... ouch:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild007.jpg?t=1187552164
this one I took to show the rounded keel section ... if it were a flat keel intake ... it would not have this radius ... it would be ... well, flat ... (you can also see the difference of the 2 fins here, I don't even want to know how or why they were that ground down :eek: ):
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild005.jpg?t=1187552240

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 11:50 AM
now we move onto cleaning ... I started by knocking out the old cut off bolts that were used to install the intake, moved on to using a penetrant to assist in aiding with the removal of the rock grate screws (let sit for 20 minutes or so then I use a #3 phillips bit on my cordless impact gun), then to my angle grinder w/ 80 grit sanding disc to clean off the epoxy, then cleaning it with scotch brite and dish soap ...
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2001.jpg?t=1187552640
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2002.jpg?t=1187552791
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2003.jpg?t=1187552826
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2004.jpg?t=1187552893
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2005.jpg?t=1187552936
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2006.jpg?t=1187552962
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2007.jpg?t=1187553018

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 11:54 AM
here is the cleaned intake (about 2 hours later) ready to be bead blasted, machined, repaired, then powder coated ... keep checking back for further progress ...
Brian
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild3001.jpg?t=1187553115
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild3002.jpg?t=1187553214
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild3003.jpg?t=1187553239

gunslinger
08-19-2007, 03:13 PM
So ... I was in need of a rounded keel intake for a boat I am rebuilding ...
I came across an intake that needed work, but that was good for what I am looking for ... an intake that was worthy of modifying/rebuilding ...
I figured as I started this project, I would share my progress for those of you who are interested ...
I will be starting at clean up, work my way through the machine work for a shoe and ride plate, powder coating & finally installation ... it started this morning with about 2 hours of clean up ...
so, here we go ...
Cool. So what are you building?

Cas
08-19-2007, 04:14 PM
(you can also see the difference of the 2 fins here, I don't even want to know how or why they were that ground down :eek: ):
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geez man, I thought it was rather obvious....so it can make sharper left turns!
you might as well leave it that way for the roundy round boat :)

TRG
08-19-2007, 04:27 PM
Hey cas,...Busby is obviously board outta his skull, lets let him go so that we can see his style and mad skillz!
Carry on busby!....mikef's liberty if im not mistaken has his intake the same way! i could be wrong, also i have seen quite a few rogers that way and were claimed to be old CJ's

Cas
08-19-2007, 04:30 PM
I'm looking forward to see the progress on the project. It's also a good thing to see someone starting from the bottom up...literally.
The shorter outside fin might even help keep the pump loaded in those sharp turns.

MikeF
08-19-2007, 04:47 PM
1st ever Eclipse circle boat in the works?!:)

78Southwind
08-19-2007, 05:36 PM
There's my favorite van again.:D Nice thread
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild005.jpg?t=1187552240

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 05:41 PM
Hey cas,...Busby is obviously board outta his skull, lets let him go so that we can see his style and mad skillz!
Carry on busby!....mikef's liberty if im not mistaken has his intake the same way! i could be wrong, also i have seen quite a few rogers that way and were claimed to be old CJ's
Yeah ... a little bored ... but I figured there have been a lot of threads about how/why/what for/etc about intakes and their set ups ... so what the heck ... I'll take the time to post up the progress ...
And ... while I could spin a long tale about this being some intake that was done special for boat xxx ... it would be just that ... a tale. The truth is that someone has beat the death out of this intake & it is really hurt ... most likely hit one or too many sand/rock bars ...

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 05:42 PM
There's my favorite van again
fockin van ... :mad:

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 05:43 PM
Cool. So what are you building?
1st ever Eclipse circle boat in the works?!:)
1) '96 '20 Carrera Eclipse
2) no way this boat will see the circle track ... sorry Mike, nice try ... how about yours?

Oldsquirt
08-19-2007, 05:47 PM
Good thread, Brian. Just one question, though. I have a similar intake that still has all that nasty epoxy on it. Could I get you to sand it off for me. I really hate making a mess in MY garage or driveway. :D

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 06:15 PM
Good thread, Brian. Just one question, though. I have a similar intake that still has all that nasty epoxy on it. Could I get you to sand it off for me. I really hate making a mess in MY garage or driveway. :D
Sure ... just send it along with $100, a case of Coors Light and return freight $$$ and I'll get right on it ... :D
seriously though ... it does make a mess, but well worth it instead of paying for a new one.
BB

Oldsquirt
08-19-2007, 06:24 PM
Sure ... just send it along with $100, a case of Coors Light and return freight $$$ and I'll get right on it ... :D
seriously though ... it does make a mess, but well worth it instead of paying for a new one.
BB
That's almost worth it, especially if you could have it ready by Sept 14/15 so I could save on shipping. :D I've been slowly chipping away at the epoxy. Might have it all done by the time I'm ready to have my pad-bottom Eliminator converted to a rounded keel......in a year or two. :D

BUSBY
08-19-2007, 08:00 PM
That's almost worth it, especially if you could have it ready by Sept 14/15 so I could save on shipping. :D I've been slowly chipping away at the epoxy. Might have it all done by the time I'm ready to have my pad-bottom Eliminator converted to a rounded keel......in a year or two. :D
Wait until you see the finished product ... but obviously the price goes up as more goes into to your intake ...
watch for the next two steps (blasting and shoe/ride plate) ... that's when it should start looking real good ...
BB

BrendellaJet
08-19-2007, 09:36 PM
Nice work.
I did the same thing this weekend. My intake was in really good shape, but had epoxy everywhere, with about a tube of silicone thrown on top for good measure...:devil:
Also, whoever installed my shoe with a flat head machine screw needs a beating with a screw driver. Ill replace with socket screws
What are you going to do with that fin? I assume you'd weld a filler piece on there to bring the height back?

Cs19
08-19-2007, 10:08 PM
the orange van again. LOL

Goad
08-19-2007, 10:37 PM
posting to subscribe to this thread so i can follow it as its updated.
looking forward to some good info. :)

BUSBY
08-20-2007, 05:46 AM
the orange van again. LOL
with the day cruiser top ...

lilrick
08-20-2007, 07:04 AM
I like the snap-on impact.....show off!!:D

Squirtcha?
08-20-2007, 07:07 AM
I like the snap-on impact.....show off!!:D
I like the case of Famous Amos chocolate chip cookies on the tool box. Mmmmn inspiration. :D
Oh yeah.................show off!
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild007.jpg?t=1187552164
Oh yeah and the barefoot mechanic look.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild2007.jpg?t=1187553018

BUSBY
08-20-2007, 10:02 AM
yeah yeah yeah ...
as long as I'm showing off ... we might point out the fact that it's a cordless Snap On impact ... :D
and since I still have all of my toes ... I'm still barefoot ... Mike's (cyclone's) project almost convinced me to wear proper foot protection a couple years ago ... but until I loose a toe ... I'll be barefoot for life!
:D

BUSBY
08-20-2007, 10:04 AM
and no one noticed the new bed on my dually in the back ground ... :idea:

TRG
08-20-2007, 05:07 PM
1) '96 '20 Carrera Eclipse
2) no way this boat will see the circle track ... sorry Mike, nice try ... how about yours?
Mikef's boat has not seen water in a couple of years now, and you expect him to use in in a circle boat race???? jeesh Brian, dont ya think your asking alot here?:)
...and BTW, your truck bed is off in color!:)
one more thing, nice touch with the cookies pal, your a modern day redneck in Orange co. Papp would be proud! lol

BUSBY
08-20-2007, 08:20 PM
Mikef's boat has not seen water in a couple of years now, and you expect him to use in in a circle boat race???? jeesh Brian, dont ya think your asking alot here?:)
I figured that it's a circle boat ... might enter it into a circle boat race? I know ... WTF was I thinking ... :eek:
...and BTW, your truck bed is off in color!:)
Yeah yeah ... I know ... that's what I get for trusting someone other than you ...
one more thing, nice touch with the cookies pal, your a modern day redneck in Orange co. Papp would be proud! lol
Tommy teachings never included the cookies ... a nice drink or two to beat the heat ... but the cookies were a late night idea of Gina's :D

TRG
08-20-2007, 08:32 PM
Tommy teachings never included the cookies ... a nice drink or two to beat the heat ... but the cookies were a late night idea of Gina's
RRRRight!:D

MikeF
08-20-2007, 09:10 PM
Whooda thunk it?!:D
The boat I have was only built to break the existing kilo record and then be retired. It was built as a disposable boat. She can't take the normal beating that running in the rough water of a normal circle boat race. Jeff was even surprised to see it was still around after all those years!:jawdrop:
That and I don't really make anywhere near enough cash to run any type of boat competitively. Just not in the cards for me. :o
Carry on......as I'll be watching and helping where I can.:)
(oil-check,fuel-check,batt-check,oil pump primer.....still ain't purchased one yet.:rolleyes: )

Cs19
08-20-2007, 09:13 PM
dont rush into anything Mike

MikeF
08-20-2007, 09:15 PM
It's kinda hot in here.:devil:

RCB19
08-20-2007, 09:29 PM
Brian it looks like you will soon need a nice power plant to bolt in front of that intake. ;)

TRG
08-20-2007, 09:31 PM
Come on mike, get that boat together already!:D

BUSBY
08-21-2007, 07:00 AM
Brian it looks like you will soon need a nice power plant to bolt in front of that intake. ;)
you are correct my friend ... :D

Pops@Aggressor
08-21-2007, 08:20 AM
If it is a Circle Boat - Would not cutting off the Left Fin and Dropping the Intake deeper on the left hand side, or no would it be the Right fin and left drop or the right fin and right drop - Anyway there must be a way to help it load harder thru the turn. Man I have several of those intakes that need to be detailed out like your doing but the 100 bucks don't scare me as much as what the Beer outlay could be. Anyway A Good Setup to ya!

Goad
08-21-2007, 08:36 AM
If it is a Circle Boat - Would not cutting off the Left Fin and Dropping the Intake deeper on the left hand side, or no would it be the Right fin and left drop or the right fin and right drop - Anyway there must be a way to help it load harder thru the turn.
So what is the secret recipe for intake modifications on circle boats?

MikeF
08-21-2007, 08:37 PM
So what is the secret recipe for intake modifications on circle boats?
Can't say much about the new days cause there ain't much R&D going on. But this is something they did in the past.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/153SCpics_006_1.jpg

BUSBY
08-21-2007, 08:52 PM
come on Mike ... I know you gotta have a better picture than that ...

MikeF
08-21-2007, 09:23 PM
Can't find a freshly graphited one, but this one pretty much spells it out better.:boxed:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/516/bottom_pics_016_1.jpg

Goad
08-21-2007, 09:42 PM
thanks!
anything else?

MudPumper
08-22-2007, 12:58 PM
and no one noticed the new bed on my dually in the back ground ... :idea:
I noticed your new bed Brian. I also noticed the fine quality of those pictures on your brand new Digital Camera. :D

BUSBY
08-22-2007, 02:37 PM
I noticed your new bed Brian. I also noticed the fine quality of those pictures on your brand new Digital Camera. :D
ahh ... you are correct my law enforcing friend! The brand new digital camera has made it's debut :D
They tend to work really well prior to having a swim at the river ;)
I just need to test the video quality next :idea:

BUSBY
08-23-2007, 05:33 AM
some more of it blasted and ready for machine work:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/jetintakeredo4001.jpg?t=1187875849
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/jetintakeredo4002.jpg?t=1187875862
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/jetintakeredo4003.jpg?t=1187875880
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/jetintakeredo4004.jpg?t=1187875914
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/jetintakeredo4005.jpg?t=1187875925
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/jetintakeredo4006.jpg?t=1187875943
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/jetintakeredo4007.jpg?t=1187875962

BUSBY
09-22-2007, 02:45 PM
okay, here are some updated shots after machining it for a ride plate and a shoe. Next it's off to powder coating.
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/922.07001.jpg?t=1190500825
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/922.07002.jpg?t=1190500998
in these next 2, you can see where it's been drilled and tapped for a loader:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/922.07003.jpg?t=1190501028
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/922.07005.jpg?t=1190501088

BUSBY
09-22-2007, 02:50 PM
I'll post up pictures of the powder coating process this week as well ... as soon as that's done, it'll be time to set it shortly after.
Keep checking in for more progress ... it's coming together, slowly but surely.

v-drive
09-23-2007, 05:33 AM
Who do you use for powder coating?

BUSBY
09-23-2007, 07:28 AM
Precision Powder Coatings in Santa Ana ... we are a pretty large account for them, I see their results daily, great work ... I'm going to have them do my pump & hardware as well

BUSBY
10-10-2007, 05:18 PM
Sorry for the delay ... I received the intake back from Precision ... they did a great job ... here are the pictures of the intake done and ready for install:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/101007010.jpg?t=1192065182
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/101007009.jpg?t=1192065212
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/101007008.jpg?t=1192065235
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/101007007.jpg?t=1192065258
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/101007006.jpg?t=1192065283
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/101007005.jpg?t=1192065309
So there you have it ... an intake makeover from start to finish ... I know it's the basics ... but gives some of you the idea of what is needed to install a shoe/ride plate into an intake ... and that just because it looks like junk ... doesn't mean without a little TLC that it can't look like new once again.
BB

BUSBY
10-10-2007, 05:21 PM
before:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/intakerebuild001.jpg?t=1187551998
after:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x306/busby061/101007005.jpg?t=1192065309

Riverat84
10-11-2007, 06:57 PM
dude that is so bitchin! this is exactly what i wanna do to my intake...since im getting it taken off and machined for the plate/shoe, i might as well just have it coated again...thanx for the cool thread!

BUSBY
10-11-2007, 08:44 PM
dude that is so bitchin! this is exactly what i wanna do to my intake...since im getting it taken off and machined for the plate/shoe, i might as well just have it coated again...thanx for the cool thread!
no problem.
it's definately work, but worth it.
good luck, let me know if you need any help.
Brian