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soulboater#1
08-28-2007, 05:50 PM
Need some help my fellow jetters-
I have a 460 THAT WILL NOT START:mad: I have fresh batts and it still wont start. I do however keep hearing a clicking sound when i try to fire it up. I can't tell what that dam sound is and where it is coming from. I had the wife try to listen for it but she could not tell as well. The starter has been rebuilt so I know it is not that-I have banged my head tryin to figure out what is going on. Do any of my peeps have any ideas??? Is there anything else i should do look at or replace?--By the way I did have rope caught in the jet awhile back and I did get it all out.--Did i fry something that I don't know about??
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE AND COMMENTS--TRYIN TO GET TO THE LOCAL POND FOR THE 3 DAY WEEKEND
Steve

502 JET
08-28-2007, 06:20 PM
Check it in the dark. It sounds like there is spark jumping, and you may see it in the dark.
Look at the ignition coil, I have seen them crack at the top and spark off the terminals instead of flow down the coil wire. Also check that the plug wires are snapped in the cap. Make sure there is no moisture under the distributor cap.

Squirtcha?
08-28-2007, 06:38 PM
Can you be more specific? Is it turning over and just not starting.
If it is turning over, have you checked all the usual suspects? Gas, spark/wires, timing etc.
Or will it not turn over at all?

soulboater#1
08-28-2007, 06:43 PM
it sounds as if it wants to turn over. I jus keeps cranking and not fully turning over. I so pissed and frustrated--Ive pulled my hair and checked everything--there has to be something that im over looking

Cas
08-28-2007, 06:57 PM
I'm thinking along the lines of what 502 mentioned. It could be something as simple as the coil wire arcing to another plug wire. As suggested, try firing it off in the dark so you can see if it's arcing somewhere.

suckin&pumpin
08-28-2007, 07:21 PM
if it wont turn over but the starter is engaiging, pull the plugs make there is no water in the cylinders. If your trying to fire on the trailer and you had the water running before the motor was running well it happens

Mr. Crusader 83
08-29-2007, 06:19 AM
Put a a breaker bar on the front crankshaft pully and see if you can turn the engine over by hand. If you can NOT, then check the plugs to see if its locked up. If there is nothing in there. Check your pump. My uncles wear ring came loose once and locked up the pump. The engine would not turn over. One more thing. If you have a 4 wire starter, make sure the trigger wire for the starter silinoid is on the out side post of the starter. Check your grounds.

pw_Tony
08-29-2007, 07:25 AM
Agreed. Try to turn the motor over with a breaker bar first, and if it does turn over it's something in your ignition. If it's making a rapid clicking sound that means the starters not getting enough juice. Check and make sure all your connections are clean, even the battery terminals, the starter connections, and the starter relay are all clean. If they are try replaceing the starter relay, they're cheap.
But if the motor doesn't turn over by a big breaker bar try pulling all the spark plugs out and see if it will then

biggraypig
08-29-2007, 08:43 PM
Make sure you have a good ground. Check voltage on the battery. Check starter solonoid. If the starter spins and won't engage make sure it is tight, and the bendix is good.

soulboater#1
08-30-2007, 08:43 AM
thanks for all the replies! I hope to have a chance later today or tonite to get her fired up and running for the weekend. Kids have been asking daddy if it will work and i told them the great guys @ ***boat will show me a sign--And you fellas have--THANKS
Steve

GUGS102
08-30-2007, 11:04 AM
Make sure you have a good ground. Check voltage on the battery. Check starter solonoid. If the starter spins and won't engage make sure it is tight, and the bendix is good.
I'm with the pig. KISS. When you replaced the starter are you sure the wires are correct, tight and the ground is good at the block and the batteries?
If you have a charger with a start feature, crank it over while this additional power goes to the system and see if it makes a difference.
Another easy check is to grab a spark plug pull a wire gorund the electrode to the block or rocker cover and crank it. If you see no spark this will also give you something to look at.
Gugs

obnoxious001
08-30-2007, 12:15 PM
The starter has been rebuilt so I know it is not that-
Steve
Just because the starter was rebuilt, you can't assume that it can't be bad. If you can't figure it out yourself, I may be able to have a look with you here in Glendora.

Bense468
08-30-2007, 01:03 PM
sounds like a solenoid or relay. Check to see if you have a relay in between the battery and starter. Make sure the battery is fully charged, if it has a glass eye, check it, or put a guage on it.
We need to know if the motor is rolling over with the starter. If it is, then the starter is fine, and you can look into ignition.

thatguy
08-30-2007, 01:06 PM
it sounds as if it wants to turn over. I jus keeps cranking and not fully turning over. I so pissed and frustrated--Ive pulled my hair and checked everything--there has to be something that im over looking
Is it actually spinning, just won't fire? Or is it not rotating over at all?
Tommy

soulboater#1
08-30-2007, 09:30 PM
it is spinning. Just not turning over. The engine moves by hand and I need to try to see if a spark is jumping to something else.

WishIknew
08-30-2007, 09:40 PM
it is spinning. Just not turning over. The engine moves by hand and I need to try to see if a spark is jumping to something else.
How about some free t-shirts and maybe i can start it????????

obnoxious001
08-30-2007, 09:46 PM
it is spinning. Just not turning over. The engine moves by hand and I need to try to see if a spark is jumping to something else.
"spinning" and "turning over" are the same thing, no?
If you need help, and can get it by here tomorrow, I should be able to pinpoint the problem quickly. PM in case I forget to check the thread.

WishIknew
08-30-2007, 09:49 PM
"spinning" and "turning over" are the same thing, no?
If you need help, and can get it by here tomorrow, I should be able to pinpoint the problem quickly. PM in case I forget to check the thread.
See Your The Man!!!!!!!

speeddreamon
08-31-2007, 05:57 AM
spinning and turning over...
are you saying the starter motor is rotating but not engaging the flywheel and actually turning the engine? if it's barely rotating the engine, then your connections or cables are not making good contact. hook up your car to jump start it and get more juice. maybe that battery in your boat is about dead? (even if it's fresh, is it "charged"?) by the way, if the boat battery is about dead, even connecting the car might be a problem, as the dead battery will take all the voltage. if you suspect it and a pure jumpstart doesn't work, just yank the battery and use jumper cables to hook right up to your car battery. if you actually have a new and fully charged battery, you probably have a cable or terminal issue that isn't getting the juice to the starter.
1) pour an ounce of fuel right down the carburetor in case it's fuel delivery issues
2) pull one plug, hold it against the block so it's grounded (the threads, not the end electrode), do you see spark?
3) check the throttle idle isn't all the way shut on the butterflies.
all you need is fuel-air-spark. is it trying to run, or just completely dead? clicking noise might be something askew with the distrubitor cap, maybe it's not quite on there properly.