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Cole
01-21-2003, 05:02 PM
I think its a go!!! 2003 26 daytona with twin 2.5s!!!as long as financing goes,then its a go!!
anyone seen one yet?? and how fast?? it does have a light layup and decolight interior..so shes layed up real light!! The 2.5s have about 30 hrs on it and have some mild work done to the heads..he told me they put out about 300-320 hp i'll post some pics when they e-mail ot to me!
:) Cole

ZSARGO
01-21-2003, 06:14 PM
NICE. I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY RUN 104 GIVE OR TAKE A FEW MILES PER HOUR. THE FORCE 26 RAN 100.2 WITH STOCK TWIN 2.5'S AND THE DCB F26 RAN 107 WITH TWIN 300X'S. ELIMINATORS HULLS ARE FAST. WHO YOU TRYING TO GET FINANCED THROUGH?
[ January 21, 2003, 06:15 PM: Message edited by: ZSARGO ]

MOPAR2YA
01-21-2003, 07:16 PM
ZSARGO
WHO YOU TRYING TO GET FINANCED THROUGH? [/QB]Thought you were in to home loans :D
[ January 24, 2003, 07:49 PM: Message edited by: MOPAR2YA ]

mbrown2
01-21-2003, 08:48 PM
Sounds like a cool rig...that should look real tight with OB's & Canopies ...

HavasuDreamin'
01-22-2003, 06:18 AM
Should be real nice. I like the 2.5's but they do need a lighter layup because they don't have a lot of torque.
Make sure to run 100 octane fuel with shaved heads. Good Luck, and post some pics. of that bad boy! :D

TOBTEK
01-22-2003, 01:39 PM
where are the pic's....we need pic's

Boatmaster
01-22-2003, 03:19 PM
Ditto, we need pics!!!!!!

Cole
01-22-2003, 06:20 PM
This sucks..no picks yet..he says he cant e-mail them because his computer is down!!!!although he mailed them to me today.... someone will have to walk me through posting them when they show up man this is just going to be too cool!! :D :D :D Cole
[ January 22, 2003, 06:22 PM: Message edited by: Cole ]

HavasuDreamin'
01-23-2003, 09:56 AM
Cole:
someone will have to walk me through posting them when they show up 1. Get them on your computer's C: Drive by scanning them and saving them.
2. Go to www.***boat.net (http://www.***boat.net) Click on the "Enter Here" picture with the girls. Click on "media center." Scroll down and click on "post your picture." This process will post your picture to ***boat's media center.
3. Once the picture is in the media center, right click on it (when it is big, not a thumb nail) and click on properties down at the bottom. Copy the Http:// address in its entirety.
4. Go back to the mainpage and enter the forum. Enter this thread and post a reply. In the reply paste your Http:// address. In front of the address put and at the end of it put
5. Hit add reply and the picture will pop up. Make sure there are no spaces between the [img] and the http address.
:cool:

MOPAR2YA
01-24-2003, 07:51 PM
HavasuDreamin':
Cole:
someone will have to walk me through posting them when they show up 1. Get them on your computer's C: Drive by scanning them and saving them.
2. Go to www.***boat.net (http://www.***boat.net) Click on the "Enter Here" picture with the girls. Click on "media center." Scroll down and click on "post your picture." This process will post your picture to ***boat's media center.
3. Once the picture is in the media center, right click on it (when it is big, not a thumb nail) and click on properties down at the bottom. Copy the Http:// address in its entirety.
4. Go back to the mainpage and enter the forum. Enter this thread and post a reply. In the reply paste your Http:// address. In front of the address put and at the end of it put
5. Hit add reply and the picture will pop up. Make sure there are no spaces between the [img] and the http address.
:cool: Thanks for helping post mine :D

You Te
01-24-2003, 10:09 PM
Cole,
If the 2.5s are Drag motors then the 300 to 320 horse power maybe true, if they are 280s and only have mild head work what cc's are they.
A 280 with real tight heads maybe 300 Horse.
If they are 260s with mild head work and putting out 300 to 320 horse power, BULLSHIT.
You Te

Cole
01-31-2003, 07:55 PM
well after talking to them, they are drag motors....that have been detuned!!! they are suppose to produce about 300-320 hp ..... i may wrong on that and overly optimistic,but we'll see!!! soo you te..you talk a lot of shit...how do you your o/bs???

You Te
02-01-2003, 08:57 AM
Sorry Cole,
I did not know I was talking shit. I was just sharing my experience that I've had with these type of motors over the last 8 years.
I guess I'm just full of shit, sorry for my comment.
You Te

Cole
02-01-2003, 09:38 AM
thats cool te..appreciate the come back!!! tell me a little bit about the drag motors..they were detuned to like he said be a little more reliable but with performance parts..the heads are a few CCs above stock..but i am an idiot when it comes to this kind of stuff!!!!they are also 15"shortys in stead of 20" and have the bigger....shaft :rolleyes: (wouldn't we all) Cole

HavasuDreamin'
02-01-2003, 11:12 AM
First of all, You Te probably knows more about the race Merc's than anybody else that posts here in the O/B forum, so if I were you.......and as you say you know nothin' about them.....I would take his advice and be greatful there is someone willing to help!
Second, motors with 15" mid-sections (the only way the drag motors are produced) have no business being on a 26' boat with the free board that a 26' Daytona has. They will have to be mounted so low (to get good water pressure) that you will have motor submerging issues coming off plain. You need 20" midsections on that boat.
Third, the drag motors are only rated at 300 HP to begin with. While it is common knowledge that they do put out more hp (in the area of 325hp), if they have been detuned as you say, they probably don't put out any more than 300 now. You should find out exactly what has been done to them. If the CC's in the heads have been reduced, find out from what CC to what CC.
Sorry for the rant.......you really didn't come off well in your last couple of posts. Plus, I know You Te, and he is a good guy!
Good Luck :cool:

Cole
02-01-2003, 08:07 PM
sorry i didn't mean to come off as a dick????i was offened by the bullshit comment its just i am excited about a new boat that i have bought and he starts questioning me about 20hp on a couple of motors ....fine...who cares!!! I asked him to talk to me about the motors i bought...and i am still waiting for some feedback :D Cole
[ February 01, 2003, 09:06 PM: Message edited by: Cole ]

Cole
02-01-2003, 08:25 PM
So your saying my $100.000 purchase is not going to work???....San diego elimimator would probably need to know this..can you please advise me what i will need !!! because i trust your judgement ...20" shafts done...drag motors???? just let me know????? Cole
[ February 01, 2003, 09:08 PM: Message edited by: Cole ]

You Te
02-01-2003, 10:01 PM
HD,
Thanks for the kind words.
Cole,
First off, I don't know anything about your hull,
I know a guy named Todd Smith, he told me owned SD Eliminator,he seemed knowledgeable.
Maybe 15" midsections work ok on your hull,I don't see any advantage on a hull of your type I would think like HD said, 20" would be better, since you will most likely be out in the rough water.
Anyway, you got what you got 15".
As far as the Drag motors, the ones I've seen come stock with 26 cc heads and cranking compression is around 185 PSI.
I'm not going to get into to much detail and bore you, but a general rule is 5 lbs per cc at cranking. EG. 26cc = 185 lbs, 28cc = 175 lbs .
The higher the cc's the lower the compression.
About the highest compression you should run on pump premium is 145 cranking.
The Drag motors are not known for bottom end, however, they come on strong in the upper mid and top end range, this is due to the porting.
The Drag motors like high compression, it improves the complete power band.
Shaft size, I think you are refering to the large crank upper main bearing.
Anyway, good luck with your new boat it sounds like a kick ass ride, and take it easy on my bud HD, he a good guy.
You Te

Cole
02-11-2003, 02:56 PM
LETS TRY THIS!!!!!!
here's a pic of the Daytona http://Free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Reader_Rides/Outboards/tn_DSC00630.JPG

Cole
02-11-2003, 03:00 PM
Holly sh*t it worked!!!.....a little small but there you go!!!!(sounded like my last date :D )
Cole

Cole
02-11-2003, 03:10 PM
How do we make the pic larger???? :confused: Cole

kab
02-11-2003, 03:14 PM
Cole why is SD Eliminator selling you the 2.5 w/15 " mid sections?? I would think they would rather sell you the 300x ready to go. I have had many experiences with SD eliminator. Nice boat, but with that amount of freeboard you really need the 20" midsections. I would give Joe @DCB a call if you have any question regarding outboards and what will work on a 26' boat.

Cole
02-11-2003, 03:25 PM
i bought the 2.5s with 20"offshore mid sections thats the only way it would work on the 26 daytona!! :D Cole
[ February 11, 2003, 03:25 PM: Message edited by: Cole ]

XFactor
02-11-2003, 04:13 PM
Cole,
You need to contact Mike Flanigan in Florida. (727)417-1160is his cell number. Mike works for Lightining Bay Marine and has rigged the 26 Daytona with Outboards. He has also spent alot of time on Lake X (Mercury's private testing ground) with Mercury to perfect a 26 Daytona set-up. You will probably be able to get by with the 15's vs. the 20's because Eliminator off-sets the motors 28"-32" with jack plates. In addition, you should think about secondary water pick-ups for your boat. Your boats going to be awesome, but you should have strayed south a couple miles to DCB. Dave's the twin OB king.

Cole
02-12-2003, 09:17 AM
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Reader_Rides/Outboards/DSC00630.JPG
here the larger pic.... :D Cole

Cole
02-12-2003, 10:06 AM
[orinally posted by xfactor]
Cole,
You need to contact Mike Flanigan in Florida. (727)417-1160is his cell number. Mike works for Lightining Bay Marine and has rigged the 26 Daytona with Outboards. He has also spent alot of time on Lake X (Mercury's private testing ground) with Mercury to perfect a 26 Daytona set-up. You will probably be able to get by with the 15's vs. the 20's because Eliminator off-sets the motors 28"-32" with jack plates. In addition, you should think about secondary water pick-ups for your boat. Your boats going to be awesome, but you should have strayed south a couple miles to DCB. Dave's the twin OB king.
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WOW...i am glad i talked to Mike!!!!! he has had both 26's that he's set up doing 112 all day long and topped out at 116mph!!!!w/300Xs and fully rigged!! he is thinking with mine being a lite layup,deco lite interior, 2.5s(200pds lighter) and no interior under the bow to be about 800pds lighter than the two he did, that we could be scratching 120mph :D :D he definetly REALLY likes the 26...he says just a hall ass boat!!!
cant wait!!!! Cole

kab
02-12-2003, 10:14 AM
Is Mike running those boats in the ocean?? The 300x is heavier but also more HP.

Cole
02-12-2003, 10:35 AM
I dont think he is...he said the 300X is about 100pds heavier but he said would be about the same in top end because of
weight, and spins more rpms.But the 300X is much more usier friendly!!

Cole
02-12-2003, 11:31 AM
It was interesting,Mike said the 28 skater would not run good at all with the 300Xs....too heavy and couldn't get it to air out!!!!

XFactor
02-12-2003, 12:17 PM
Cole,
I have some pictures you may be interested in. They are of a 26 Daytona rigged with twin X's. Tell me how I can post them and I would be glad to add them to this site. Give me the basics, I'm kind of an idiot when it comes to this stuff.

Cole
02-12-2003, 12:43 PM
didn't think i would be saying this.. but e-mail them to me and i'll post them!!Cole :D

Skaterfast
02-12-2003, 03:20 PM
Cole:
It was interesting,Mike said the 28 skater would not run good at all with the 300Xs....too heavy and couldn't get it to air out!!!! Skaters,properly set up with 300's will run between 115 and 120.

Boatmaster
02-12-2003, 03:37 PM
I have rigged a 28 Skater with Xs, all it needed were jack plates and some dail in to run 114. That was with very little work so I would agree that 115 to 120 is possible.

Cole
02-13-2003, 05:03 PM
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Reader_Rides/Outboards/1pic26.JPG
xfactor here is one of your pics...this is the daytona that does 116 with 300Xs??? Cole

XFactor
02-13-2003, 05:37 PM
Cole,
What adjustments have they made since Nov. Mike said the best they could get at 6800rpm was 112mph. He thought 116-120 was possible if they could get the r's up to 7400. Ask him to give you the owners name to varifiy the speeds. Like I said before, Eliminator is maybe a few clicks faster than the DCB, but personally, service and quality mean alot.

TOBTEK
02-14-2003, 08:07 AM
Cole:
i bought the 2.5s with 20"offshore mid sections thats the only way it would work on the 26 daytona!! :D Cole http://dcbracing.com/havasu/images/Mvc-005_jpg.jpg
prob a lame question...but, whats wrong with the 15" mid sections? Has anyone else seen the 200? DCB MACH26 with twin 2.5's/15" sections in the boat trader its at Conquest boats, yellow and red graphics. If the 15" sections are so bad, why did DCB put them on this 26? They sure look ccol.

Cole
02-14-2003, 09:21 AM
they do look like shorties????? the consencis is that the shorties are just too close to the water line and has the potential to get swamped..
:D Cole

ZSARGO
03-06-2003, 04:07 PM
Cole AKA Craig? If it is, this is Brad G. What are u doing these days? E-mail me. bradgilligan@aol.com

HavasuDreamin'
03-07-2003, 10:27 AM
Tob..........I think that DCB has 20" midsections. Take a look at it in this picture. It was easier to tell the difference between the 20" and 15" midsections before the alien cowl, now you really have to look closely.
The problem is the 15" shorties are designed for very low free board boats like Mirages, 19' Eliminators, Etc. They could potentially submerse coming off plane on a larger boat.
http://www.dcbracing.com/havasu/images/Mvc-009_jpg.jpg
By the way..........this DCB is advetised for $76K in the back of this months HB magazine. IMHO, that is a great deal!

Jrocket
03-07-2003, 07:08 PM
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/232DCB_Rednwhite_006-med.jpg http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/506/232DCB_Rednwhite_009-med.jpg
:D :D :D

Cole
03-10-2003, 12:49 PM
jrocket,What are those 15s or 20s?...someone really should just call dcb and get to the bottom of this discussion!!!i keep hearing mixed verdicts!!! Cole :p

mbrown2
03-10-2003, 01:10 PM
On the pic JRocket posted, those are 20's.

TOBTEK
03-11-2003, 08:13 AM
15's,20's whatever! all I know is that is our next boat. mach26 with twin 300's......"I want, therefor I need".......maybe when JM2 buys charlies 29, ill get his 26 :D

Cole
03-11-2003, 06:04 PM
Tobtec...why in the world dont you just step up to the plate and buy a 26 mach or god forbid a 26 daytona????? all of us on the boards have to keep moping up the drool you leaving behind! eek! Cole

TOBTEK
03-11-2003, 09:29 PM
its not in the cards right now. IF I had more time off, to see my way clear to drive 6+ hours each way to havasu id have one. But with my 3 hour drive to Yuma a MACH22 will suit this part of the river better,,,,and a new DCB MACH22 isnt all that bad...is it? wink Even though froggy said its a pile :D hehehehe

ZSARGO
03-11-2003, 10:18 PM
TOBTEK:
its not in the cards right now. IF I had more time off, to see my way clear to drive 6+ hours each way to havasu id have one. But with my 3 hour drive to Yuma a MACH22 will suit this part of the river better,,,,and a new DCB MACH22 isnt all that bad...is it? wink Even though froggy said its a pile :D hehehehe LET'S SEE. 1 MACH 22 300 HORSEPOWER =90 MPH. 1 21FT ULTRA 600 HORSEPOWER = 76 MPH. LET'S NOT EVEN MENTION ROUGH WATER HANDLING. PILE???? PLEASE.