Rogue Waves

[Her454]

Anyone watch that documentary on the History channel? Pretty interesting how they are researching tracking the waves through sat sonar now and the re-creation of a cruise ship capsizing :eek: Kinda creeped me out about the ocean and taking a cruise.........

[Sleek-Jet]

Does it creep you out as much as this???
:D
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39560&d=1190223171

[spectras only]

When rogue waves reach 100'+ , doesn't matter what size boat/ship you're cruising ,you're doomed !:idea: :sqeyes:

[hkunz]

If you really want to be creeped out about a "cruise", check out the qualifications of the crew.
Breathing, check;
OK, we're good to go.......
Then we get into the condition of the ships....

[Ziggy]

Anyone watch that documentary on the History channel? Pretty interesting how they are researching tracking the waves through sat sonar now and the re-creation of a cruise ship capsizing :eek: Kinda creeped me out about the ocean and taking a cruise.........
Chicken!!!---bawk-bawk :D :D

[hkunz]

When rogue waves reach 100'+ , doesn't matter what size boat/ship you're cruising ,you're doomed !:idea: :sqeyes:
Not as long as you can go into the seas, then you just puke a lot. Not that I'd know anything about that:rolleyes: There is just something special about green water coming over the bow, when the bow is 65 feet above the waterline. Yee haw:eek:

[Her454]

Does it creep you out as much as this???
:D
I would have expected that from someone other than you Sleek. You just slipped from Gentleman to focker. :D
When rogue waves reach 100'+ , doesn't matter what size boat/ship you're cruising ,you're doomed !:idea: :sqeyes:
Saw that too. The last comment made was something to the effect of not trying to build ships to withstand the waves (if thats even possible) but to completely avoid them by means of an early warning signal.
If you really want to be creeped out about a "cruise", check out the qualifications of the crew.
Breathing, check;
OK, we're good to go.......
Then we get into the condition of the ships....
Excuse me, but I grew up watching "Love Boat" and I have complete faith in the crews. :D
Chicken!!!---bawk-bawk :D :D
LOL, you talk too much Zig. :D

[Her454]

Not as long as you can go into the seas, then you just puke a lot. Not that I'd know anything about that:rolleyes: There is just something special about green water coming over the bow, when the bow is 65 feet above the waterline. Yee haw:eek:
I've been out in the "open" ocean only once, and didn't care for it at all. Truth be told it scared the **** out of me. I don't like waves I can't see over:eek:

[HM]

I hear there is a new movie coming out: "Snakes on a Cruise Ship." :devil:

[Riverat84]

I hear there is a new movie coming out: "Snakes on a Cruise Ship." :devil:
hahaha,...on a tread mill?

[spectras only]

Not as long as you can go into the seas, then you just puke a lot.
Yeah , but a rogue wave is different from regular waves . It comes out of nowhere , and if it broadsides a ship it can capsize it .:jawdrop: .

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

It happened to Jeff's brother when he was in the coast guard.

[Her454]

It happened to Jeff's brother when he was in the coast guard.
They showed several of the boats that had been capsized from rogue's and it was incredible the damage it can do IF they survive the wave.
I didn't realize they ever found the "Edmund Fitzgerald" and think it happened from a rogue as well. They come out of nowhere and can toss a ship like its a toy. Scary.
I bet your brother in law has a story to tell that would curl your hair LOL. :D

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

I thought the Edmund Fitz got caought in a surprise storm. Gonna have to look it up now.

[Her454]

I thought the Edmund Fitz got caought in a surprise storm. Gonna have to look it up now.
Very well could be, thats the part where I came in on the show last night and it was showing the Fitzgerald talking about how a Rogue could have broken it in two so I assumed. But we all know what happens when you ASS U ME lol. :D

[My Man's Sportin' Wood]

Copied from http://www.ssefo.com/info/timeline.html
Pretty eerie to see the transcripts of last words. :(
1975
November 9
8:30 AM
The Edmund Fitzgerald is loaded with taconite pellets at Burlington Northern Railroad, Dock 1. The ship is scheduled to transport the cargo to Zug Island on the Detroit River.
2:20 PM
The Fitzgerald departs Lake Superior en route of Detroit with 26,116 tons of taconite pellets.
2:39 PM
The National Weather Service issues gale warnings for the area which the Fitzgerald is sailing in. Captain Cooper on the Anderson radios a freighter (the Edmund Fitzgerald) that he spots.
4:15 PM
The Fitzgerald spots the Arthur M. Anderson some 15 miles behind it.
November 10
1:00 AM
Weather report from the Fitzgerald.
The report from the Fitzgerald shows her to be 20 miles south of Isle Royale. Winds are at 52 knots, with waves ten feet in height.
7:00 AM
Weather report from the Fitzgerald.
Winds are at 35 knots, waves of ten feet. This is the last weather report that the Edmund Fitzgerald will ever make.
3:15 PM
Captain Jesse Cooper, (J.C.) of the S.S. Arthur M. Anderson watches the Fitzgerald round Caribou Island and comments that the Fitzgerald is much closer to Six Fathom Shoal than he would want to be.
3:20 PM
Anderson reports winds coming from the Northwest at 43 knots.
3:30 PM
Radio transmission between the Fitzgerald and the Anderson
Captain McSorley (C.M.) to Captain Cooper (C.C.):
C.M.: "Anderson, this is the Fitzgerald. I have sustained some topside damage. I have a fence rail laid down, two vents lost or damaged, and a list. I'm checking down. Will you stay by me til I get to Whitefish?"
C.C.: "Charlie on that Fitzgerald. Do you have your pumps going?"
C.M.: "Yes, both of them
4:10 PM
The Fitzgerald radios the Arthur M. Anderson requesting radar assistance for the remainder of the voyage.
Fitzgerald: "Anderson, this is the Fitzgerald. I have lost both radars. Can you provide me with radar plots till we reach Whitefish Bay?"
Anderson: "Charlie on that, Fitzgerald. We'll keep you advised of position."
About 4:39 PM
The Fitzgerald cannot pick up the Whitefish Point radio beacon. The Fitzgerald radios the Coast Guard station at Grand Marais on Channel 16, the emergency channel.
Between 4:30 and 5:00 PM
The Edmund Fitzgerald calls for any vessel in the Whitefish Point area regarding information about the beacon and light at Whitefish Point. They receive an answer by the saltwater vessel Avafors that the beacon and the light are not operating.
Estimated between 5:30 and 6:00 PM
Radio transmission between the Avafors and the Fitzgerald.
Avafors: "Fitzgerald, this is the Avafors. I have the Whitefish light now but still am receiving no beacon. Over."
Fitzgerald: "I'm very glad to hear it."
Avafors: "The wind is really howling down here. What are the conditions where you are?"
Fitzgerald: (Undiscernable shouts heard by the Avafors.) "DON'T LET NOBODY ON DECK!"
Avafors: "What's that, Fitzgerald? Unclear. Over."
Fitzgerald: "I have a bad list, lost both radars. And am taking heavy seas over the deck. One of the worst seas I've ever been in."
Avafors: "If I'm correct, you have two radars."
Fitzgerald: "They're both gone."
Sometime around 7:00 PM
The Anderson is struck by two huge waves that put water on the ship, 35 feet above the water line. The waves hit with enough force to push the starboard lifeboat down, damaging the bottom.
7:10 PM
Radio transmission between the Anderson and the Fitzgerald.
The Fitzgerald is still being followed by the Arthur M. Anderson. They are about 10 miles behind the Fitzgerald.
Anderson: "Fitzgerald, this is the Anderson. Have you checked down?"
Fitzgerald: "Yes we have."
Anderson: "Fitzgerald, we are about 10 miles behind you, and gaining about 1 1/2 miles per hour. Fitzgerald, there is a target 19 miles ahead of us. So the target would be 9 miles on ahead of you."
Fitzgerald: "Well, am I going to clear?"
Anderson: "Yes. He is going to pass to the west of you."
Fitzgerald: "Well, fine."
Anderson: "By the way, Fitzgerald, how are you making out with your problem?"
Fitzgerald: "We are holding our own."
Anderson: "Okay, fine. I'll be talking to you later."
They never did speak later...The 29 men onboard the Fitzgerald will never again speak with anyone outside of the ship.
Sometime between 7:20 and 7:30 PM
It is estimated that this was the time period when the ship vanished and sank.
7:15 PM
The Fitzgerald enters a squall while still on Lake Superior; the squall obscures the vessel from radar observation by the Anderson; this is normal when in a squall.
7:25 PM
Edmund Fitzgerald disappears from the radar of the S.S. Arthur M. Anderson, prompting a call to the Coast Guard to inform them of the situation.
7:55 PM
The Anderson calls again and informs the Coast Guard that they have lost the Fitzgerald both visually and on radar.
9:00 PM
The Coast Guard, with no available search ships, radios the Arthur M. Anderson requesting assistance.
C.G.: "Anderson, this is Group Soo. What is your present position?"
Anderson: "We're down here, about two miles off Parisienne Island right now... the wind is northwest forty to forty-five miles here in the bay."
C.G.: "Is it calming down at all, do you think?"
Anderson: "In the bay it is, but I heard a couple of the salties talking up there, and they wish they hadn't gone out."
After much more conversation and a request by the Coast Guard to return to search for the ship, reluctant to go out, the S.S. Arthur M. Anderson agrees to "give it a try" but claims that that is "all we can do."
10:53 PM
The first aircraft arrives on the scene from Traverse City, Michigan.
November 11, 1975
around 2:00 AM
William Clay Ford arrives at the scene of the wreck.
November 11, 1975, morning
A Reverend by the name of Richard Ingalls prays in his church and holds a memorial service for the twenty nine men lost. This service becomes an annual service and is mentioned in the song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" by Gordon Lightfoot.
1976
The song, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" is released by Gordon Lightfoot to the public commemorating the shipwreck. This song is still performed to this day at his concerts.
May
The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald is OFFICIALLY identified.
1980
Calypso expedition takes place.
1995
The bell of the S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald is raised, restored, and replaced on the ship by a new bell with the names of the twenty nine men lost. This is the last time the S.S. Edmund Fitzgerald will ever again be legally dived upon.

[Her454]

That gave me the chills. :eek:

[Rexone]

About 12 years back I was on a 8 or 10 day long range fishing trip off Baja on the Qualifier 105. It was October, Santa Ana wind season. We were finishing our trip up at Alijos Rocks, roughly 200 miles off the Baja coast and heading back to San Diego. The Santa Anas starting blowing headwind with a slight quartering to our path. The waves got so big overnight they were crashing over the top of the wheelhouse (105 foot boat). The skipper would have to back down the throttles coming into them and up throttle between to make any headway. I thought I'd been on some pretty rough trips. Suddenly the memories of all those rough ones smoothed right out. We couldn't go outside on deck for about 30 hours. You could hear every pipe in the boat rattling as it crashed down over the crests of the larger waves. The whole boat shuddered. We were in bunks alot of the time and I remember being airborne quite a few, even hitting the bottom of the bunk above a few times. I was really glad when that trip ended and had no big desire to go back out for quite some time.
I certainly would not want to encounter a rouge wave in a boat that size. I remember being in the wheelhouse in the am and from the troughs looking up at the next swell as we climbed up it. :messedup:

[Infomaniac]

Anyone watch that documentary on the History channel? Pretty interesting how they are researching tracking the waves through sat sonar now and the re-creation of a cruise ship capsizing :eek: Kinda creeped me out about the ocean and taking a cruise.........
Get a job and quit watching TV

[Her454]

About 12 years back I was on a 8 or 10 day long range fishing trip off Baja on the Qualifier 105. It was October, Santa Ana wind season. We were finishing our trip up at Alijos Rocks, roughly 200 miles off the Baja coast and heading back to San Diego. The Santa Anas starting blowing headwind with a slight quartering to our path. The waves got so big overnight they were crashing over the top of the wheelhouse (105 foot boat). The skipper would have to back down the throttles coming into them and up throttle between to make any headway. I thought I'd been on some pretty rough trips. Suddenly the memories of all those rough ones smoothed right out. We couldn't go outside on deck for about 30 hours. You could hear every pipe in the boat rattling as it crashed down over the crests of the larger waves. The whole boat shuddered. We were in bunks alot of the time and I remember being airborne quite a few, even hitting the bottom of the bunk above a few times. I was really glad when that trip ended and had no big desire to go back out for quite some time.
I certainly would not want to encounter a rouge wave in a boat that size. I remember being in the wheelhouse in the am and from the troughs looking up at the next swell as we climbed up it. :messedup:
I bet you could hear your heart pounding over the rattle of those pipes. :D
Get a job and quit watching TV
I have a job.......... :D Quit posting and distracting me from it.