Need a Big Block Dodge...

[Froggystyle]

Like I need a project, but I am about to embark upon a restoration-hop up of a 1974 Dodge Ramcharger. I am a Mopar guy from way back, and I plan on running this number with no lift, nice rims and tires, rhinolined interior, no lid or doorframes, half doors and have the ultimate beach cruiser for San Diego.
It has a small block in it, with a great T-case and a 727 auto. The B or RB block will bolt right in, and since I am doing the exhaust, rebuilding the motor and swapping out the carb and manifold anyway, I figure I may as well do it to a big block instead.
So... anyone got a 440 or 383 kicking around looking to become something?

[Screaming Pete]

i think you should go 5 cyl 12 valve and really make it go:D

[Froggystyle]

i think you should go 5 cyl 12 valve and really make it go:D
Thought about it. And I thought of finding a balled-up Viper and putting a V-10 in it, but realistically I can rebuild a 440 for very little money for this purpose... And I do love me some big block Dodges... :D

[djunkie]

Be different Wes and throw a Cummins in it. One from an older truck maybe. :D :D

[Froggystyle]

Be different Wes and throw a Cummins in it. One from an older truck maybe. :D :D
Too much work. I am looking forward to knocking out the project and calling it a day.
Plus, nothing in that drivetrain would live...

[bullseye]

I have an old 440 block that has been sitting outside if you would like it for a core of some sort .Im in the high desert ,Pm me if you are interested .

[pw_Tony]

My father has a 413(I think) that we just pulled out of a motorhome not too long ago. Pm me if you're interested at all.... I think it's carb, pan, and exhaust...

[Froggystyle]

My father has a 413(I think) that we just pulled out of a motorhome not too long ago. Pm me if you're interested at all.... I think it's carb, pan, and exhaust...
413? The big blocks displacements that I know of were 383 for a "B" block, and 426,440 for the "RB" block. The 426 was both a Hemi displacement and the Max Wedge.
Most Moho's that I have seen were 440's.

[pw_Tony]

Yea 413 was a big block dodge size. Came out of a motorhome that had bout 60,000 odo on it? Planning to put it in something, but my father's got WAY too many motors laying around, he's got a bunch of other big block dodge's but they're all rare castings blocks/heads.
But the motor is either a 413 or 426... just can't remember quite right now :idea:

[Froggystyle]

Yea 413 was a big block dodge size. Came out of a motorhome that had bout 60,000 odo on it? Planning to put it in something, but my father's got WAY too many motors laying around, he's got a bunch of other big block dodge's but they're all rare castings blocks/heads.
But the motor is either a 413 or 426... just can't remember quite right now :idea:
I just looked it up... you are right. The BBD had 361,383,400,413,426 and 440...
See if he wants to off it. Sounds perfect! :D Gotta be a 62 or 63...

[pw_Tony]

I just looked it up... you are right. The BBD had 361,383,400,413,426 and 440...
See if he wants to off it. Sounds perfect! :D Gotta be a 62 or 63...
Out of a 1970 Motorhome, Ill send him an email right now....
Oh yah, he's in Lakeside... I thought I read somewhere you were in El Cajon but not too sure...

[Froggystyle]

Out of a 1970 Motorhome, Ill send him an email right now....
Oh yah, he's in Lakeside... I thought I read somewhere you were in El Cajon but not too sure...
Oh yeah... I am in El Cajon!
This is awesome... lining right up! :D

[STV_Keith]

How fast you want to go? I know where there's a tube chassis new body style drag truck that will go 8's as it sits for 100k with the trailer, spare parts/motors and probably 40k worth of Snap On tools. You could probably part the setup out and make money. :)
Seriously though...not sure what trans you want to use but we have 47RH at work. It was rebuilt but missing the converter and valve body. That's got the mechanical governor on it, not the electronic one. Basically the 4-speed version of the 727TF. Used in 94-95 Dodge Rams'. $1200 gets that one, including the kick ass Scribner Plastics shipping crate.

[Froggystyle]

How fast you want to go? I know where there's a tube chassis new body style drag truck that will go 8's as it sits for 100k with the trailer, spare parts/motors and probably 40k worth of Snap On tools. You could probably part the setup out and make money. :)
Seriously though...not sure what trans you want to use but we have 47RH at work. It was rebuilt but missing the converter and valve body. That's got the mechanical governor on it, not the electronic one. Basically the 4-speed version of the 727TF. Used in 94-95 Dodge Rams'. $1200 gets that one, including the kick ass Scribner Plastics shipping crate.
How 'bout nooooooo.... (Said in my best Dr. Evil voice...) :D
Low budg dude... Beach cruiser, dog hauler, local boat puller... Might want the tranny though...

[STV_Keith]

2005 viper motor 525hp sixspeed tranny - $9200 (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/432737462.html) Vegas
1978 Dodge Cop 440 engine and 727 Tranny - $500 (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/427702690.html) Bullhead City
440 chrysler brand new top of the line (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/408884081.html) Vegas
Mopar 440 engines - $450 (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/406988233.html) Vegas

[Froggystyle]

2005 viper motor 525hp sixspeed tranny - $9200 (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/432737462.html) Vegas
1978 Dodge Cop 440 engine and 727 Tranny - $500 (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/427702690.html) Bullhead City
440 chrysler brand new top of the line (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/408884081.html) Vegas
Mopar 440 engines - $450 (http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/pts/406988233.html) Vegas
Well... I don't know what to say. You pretty much rock Keith.
Be honest... you can't wait to see me back in a Mopar, huh? :D

[STV_Keith]

Well... I don't know what to say. You pretty much rock Keith.
Be honest... you can't wait to see me back in a Mopar, huh? :D
That's just off the Vegas Craigslist...check the one for your area...there are tons (expectedly) in Kalifornia.
Dodge's are cool and you know it. :D

[Froggystyle]

Dodge's are cool and you know it. :D
Hands down my favorite brand. Tough to beat the 2500 Chevy and Corvettes today, but I am a BBD guy from way back. Roadrunners, Coronets, Darts, Chargers... no E-bodies, but I did love them. Just never owned one.
Love the B bodies though. Always have. They are fast at the drags when set up nicely, sound awesome and are great to work on. I still feel that the BBD is the best designed big block ever built from an engineering standpoint.
I love that we switched to Viper power in the boats, and can't wait to own a Viper here soon.

[pw_Tony]

Hands down my favorite brand. Tough to beat the 2500 Chevy and Corvettes today, but I am a BBD guy from way back. Roadrunners, Coronets, Darts, Chargers... no E-bodies, but I did love them. Just never owned one.
Love the B bodies though. Always have. They are fast at the drags when set up nicely, sound awesome and are great to work on. I still feel that the BBD is the best designed big block ever built from an engineering standpoint.
I love that we switched to Viper power in the boats, and can't wait to own a Viper here soon.
Then you would have liked my old Daily Driver :D
440 six pack '70 R/T SE
http://i21.tinypic.com/2cqxxcw.jpg

[Infomaniac]

There are a few of those complete around here Wes

[Froggystyle]

There are a few of those complete around here Wes
Well, that would save me from having to ship it out there...
It was pretty much coming right to you anyway. At least to fit the short block and do the head work. I will never have anyone else build one of my engines for anything.
So don't be suprised if you see a lawnmower show up on your doorstep some day with a rod out the side... :D

[Froggystyle]

Then you would have liked my old Daily Driver :D
440 six pack '70 R/T SE
http://i21.tinypic.com/2cqxxcw.jpg
I always had a chubby for the E bodies... That is really hot.

[STV_Keith]

I love that we switched to Viper power in the boats, and can't wait to own a Viper here soon.
If you're gonna do it, go big. http://www.viperalley.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=2548&sort=2&cat=2&page=3

[hoolign]

Why not just put a Mitsuibishi 3.0 L, convert to FWD. Think of the oooo's and ahhhhh"s you'll get from the green community! Wes, as an inovator it's up to you to lead the way...away from the big gas guzzling horsepower engines of yesterday and think economy! Think of the ozone, think of the pollution..think of greenhouse gasses being minimized one person at a time.
Ok. I have to run and flare a well off here.. and clean up a diesel spill.
:p

[roscoe p coltraine]

I need one to for my police cruiser so i can catch them duke boys cause they gots a hemi.My 318 aint enough but boss wont fork out for the hemi or the 440.

[Froggystyle]

Why not just put a Mitsuibishi 3.0 L, convert to FWD. Think of the oooo's and ahhhhh"s you'll get from the green community! Wes, as an inovator it's up to you to lead the way...away from the big gas guzzling horsepower engines of yesterday and think economy! Think of the ozone, think of the pollution..think of greenhouse gasses being minimized one person at a time.
Ok. I have to run and flare a well off here.. and clean up a diesel spill.
What did you do with Hoolign...
BTW, I saw this in Phoenix last weekend while at my brothers bachelor party. Thought of you for some reason and snapped a pic... Could be some nice avatar material right there...
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40101&stc=1&d=1190948333

[hoolign]

What did you do with Hoolign...
BTW, I saw this in Phoenix last weekend while at my brothers bachelor party. Thought of you for some reason and snapped a pic... Could be some nice avatar material right there...
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40101&stc=1&d=1190948333
It may be the near 50 days I been out here.. :D
I can't see the pic?? :idea:

[Froggystyle]

It may be the near 50 days I been out here.. :D
I can't see the pic?? :idea:
PM me your e-mail... Actually, I have it. Just check it. As long as it is the shaw addy...

[XtrmWakeborder]

PM me your e-mail... Actually, I have it. Just check it. As long as it is the shaw addy...
Shouldn't you be building boats? I haven't seen any new pics in a loooong time. Hook it up Wes.

[hoolign]

PM me your e-mail... Actually, I have it. Just check it. As long as it is the shaw addy...
ok

[TheDukeBoys]

I need one to for my police cruiser so i can catch them duke boys cause they gots a hemi.My 318 aint enough but boss wont fork out for the hemi or the 440.
Dang Roscoe ain't you ever gonna realize whatever motor you get ain't gonna catch us?!?

[Froggystyle]

Shouldn't you be building boats? I haven't seen any new pics in a loooong time. Hook it up Wes.
Check it out...
Trident In Stock Gallery (http://www.tridentboats.com/trident_boats_gallery/v/In_stock/?g2_highlightId=2682)
Click on Deep Ocean Blue...
Here is one though...
http://www.tridentboats.com/trident_boats_gallery/d/3330-2/Finished049.JPG

[BoatPI]

the low compression 440 was an option for the Ramcharger through the body change in 1980. To rebuild the 440 properly without going over the top, including line honing, bore job, decking, and new everything, plan on about $3,200. This engine will NOT please you unless the compression is about 10:1, so the heads have to be cc'd to determine the deck and piston height. strongly suggest using JE pistions. I know as I have done many for my muscle cars. My engine builder is Jay at Advanced Enging Maching in HB. he has done Mopars for 30+ years.
If you want to make it different, the 727 trans is reworked by some to a 4 speed od unit.
Photo of the last car this i did, first place in class at the first show.

[pw_Tony]

the low compression 440 was an option for the Ramcharger through the body change in 1980. To rebuild the 440 properly without going over the top, including line honing, bore job, decking, and new everything, plan on about $3,200. This engine will NOT please you unless the compression is about 10:1, so the heads have to be cc'd to determine the deck and piston height. strongly suggest using JE pistions. I know as I have done many for my muscle cars. My engine builder is Jay at Advanced Enging Maching in HB. he has done Mopars for 30+ years.
If you want to make it different, the 727 trans is reworked by some to a 4 speed od unit.
Photo of the last car this i did, first place in class at the first show.
Hmmmm Spring Fling or Fall Fling? :idea:
That sounds a little expensive to me but hey, I'm a budget man :D. Last 440 cost about $2000 not including carb, made about 450hp estimation.
But then again if yuo're going to buy all the parts individually, heads, block, crank and all that I could see $3200

[BoatPI]

Spring Fling. And then parts are not getting cheeaper, at least a 727 is $900 to build.
Need another Mopar???
the $1,000,000 Hemi Cuda ,one of one four speed pink.

[pw_Tony]

Is it called Speed Pink for Plymouth? I thought dodge and plymouth were both Panther Pink....
but then again vitamin c orange= go mango orange

[78TaylorSS460]

The hell with all the gas motors! Go with a 12 valve Cummins! Build it up and you could have a truck you could go m wheelin' in and take it to the track and race it! It's one of the best engines to sup up and it won't cost you much at all.

[BoatPI]

Take your choice, Mulon Rougue or Panther Pink, eithr way that Cuda' is about $1,000,000

[Riverkid]

Cop motor, Cop trans... :D

[BajaMike]

Hands down my favorite brand. Tough to beat the 2500 Chevy and Corvettes today, but I am a BBD guy from way back. Roadrunners, Coronets, Darts, Chargers... no E-bodies, but I did love them. Just never owned one.
Sounds like a fun project. The only Dodge I ever owned was a short bed, 1/2 ton pickup my dad bought for me at a Gas Company auction. It had the legendary and reliable slant six engine and 3 speed auto tranny (with the shifter on the dash).
He bought it for $700, with 90,000 miles. I sold it ten years and 200,000 miles later for $1700.
Original engine and tranny, never did anything to it but change the oil and the brakes.
Great truck!
:idea:

[hoolign]

Take your choice, Mulon Rougue or Panther Pink, eithr way that Cuda' is about $1,000,000
Whats thatin real money :D :D :D I have been waiting to say that since 76 :D