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2Driver
10-01-2007, 08:04 AM
Just for running around in the desert....? Value?
http://***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40249&stc=1&d=1191254571
Chenowth chromoly 4 seat frame 路 FODDRILL Widened chromoly front-end with bumper and King Kong Arms
路 Race Runner Sway-Away remote reservoir coil over on all 4 corners. Ebach springs
路 DELPHI MEFI ECU running a GM Ecotec 2.2 motor (2005 with 17k miles-).
路 King Bypass shocks on rear
路 FODDRILL Chromoly tie-rods, beam, thru-pin.
路 Wright King Kong front arms 4x4
路 Wright 0 degree spindles (racing)
路 Porshe 911 racing CV聮s (930's)
路 Porsche 911 race cups & stub axles
路 Gear One M-3 axles
路 3x3 trailing arms and stubs
路 Gear One brakes (CNC 4-piston in rear)
路 Centerline wheels with BFG tires
路 Aluminum skin by Foddrill Fabrication
路 Foddrill shatter-proof windshield (removable) with mild UV-tint
路 Western Racing custom tig-welded aluminum fuel tank
路 Renegade seats
路 CNC Hydrualic dual master assembly with bias control
路 Jamar shifter
路 CNC Cutting brake
路 Parker Pumper fresh air unit
路 AutoMeter gauges (oil pressure, water temp, battery).
路 Hella 5000 lights
路 Heat shrunk custom wiring
路 Mark 8 fan assembly (over 3100 cfm high volume fan)
路 Ron Davis aluminum radiator
路 Sweetwater 聯U聰 joints for steering
路 Wilson race steering assembly- chromoly
路 Quick release steering wheel
路 3聰 Crow belts
路 Sway-Away spring plate

WTMFA
10-01-2007, 08:17 AM
In a good market that car could possibly go for 25k. It probably cost that or more to build. But the market for buggys right now is so soft I personaly would start by offering 16k and go to 20k tops IF it didn't have any obvious repairs and was not jerry rigged in any way. I sat and waited on a buggy for sale for about 4 months before I made an offer just recently and got a 75k buggy for 50k.
That car looks pretty cool and would be a perfect desert car with that beam front end.
Good Luck!

OCMerrill
10-01-2007, 08:20 AM
Not a pricing expert on dirt and sand cars but I would bet there is a ton of fun to be had in that thing.
My guess would be somewhere around $25k swinging +/- $5k
The eco-tec is nice touch. Looks nicely done from the one pic shown.
I have built a few old school JSC sand cars with rear and mid VW applications but that is all the experience I have. That stuff I built would fall apart in the dirt in 5 min.:D

OCMerrill
10-01-2007, 08:22 AM
In a good market that car could possibly go for 25k. It probably cost that or more to build. But the market for buggys right now is so soft I personaly would start by offering 16k and go to 20k tops IF it didn't have any obvious repairs and was not jerry rigged in any way. I sat and waited on a buggy for sale for about 4 months before I made an offer just recently and got a 75k buggy for 50k.
That car looks pretty cool and would be a perfect desert car with that beam front end.
Good Luck!
Beat me to it. :D

jackpunx
10-01-2007, 08:57 AM
Its got all the parts.. but its only worth what someone is willing to pay.
Ive seen tons of deals on
http://www.dunebuggy.com/classifieds/view
Im sure you have looked also.. seems that the buggy value is like the boat market.. (very soft)
But its the right time of year....
Ive seen some similar cars between 13 and 20k (this was over the summer)
are you buying or selling?

Baja Big Dog
10-01-2007, 09:45 AM
I would almost rather be selling a boat right now than a buggy...25k, with a 3to 5k swing.
Underpowered, and what trans?

2Driver
10-01-2007, 09:49 AM
I would almost rather be selling a boat right now than a buggy...25k, with a 3to 5k swing.
Underpowered, and what trans?
Built Bus trans as stated in the parts list. I am thinking maybe the little 4 banger would do just goofing off in the washes. All the nice stuff is too nice to go trash. There was a Mcmullen buggy I missed that would have been nice. Raw race form ( No bling) but LS1 and Fortin, but I missed it.

Baja Big Dog
10-01-2007, 10:13 AM
You can make that Ecotec scream. The guy I do most of my work for had a Tatum Black Widow 2 seater called "Big Red Machine" that had an Ecotec in it that made 1500hp on the dyno.
They can make hp, but my thoughts are always with RELIABLE HP. Im not a fan of building motors that you plan to run in the desert, for a play toy. One of our drivers in the pro truck built a prerunner with one of these, and it just didnt make enough "reliable" HP to pre run Mexico, he swapped it out for a Subaru, make power, but it was stolen before he could dial it in.

77charger
10-01-2007, 05:26 PM
You can make that Ecotec scream. The guy I do most of my work for had a Tatum Black Widow 2 seater called "Big Red Machine" that had an Ecotec in it that made 1500hp on the dyno.
but did you mention it was jim eplers buggy? and also on alcohol.
Impresive IMO!

77charger
10-01-2007, 06:31 PM
Details, details. :D It could make 1100 hp on race gas, because that's what it made when we pulled it and sold it.
just from what i read when it was in the magazine.They seem to be a very solid lil motor.

DMOORE
10-01-2007, 08:30 PM
That's a solid buggy for sure. With the echotec and bus box it should be very reliable and reasonably fast. Not worth more than 20k though. A good buddy purchased a long travel 2 seat, with Northstar and Mendeola last year for...20k. Just food for thought.
Darrell.

Baja Big Dog
10-02-2007, 07:14 AM
[QUOTE=DMOORE;2818783]That's a solid buggy for sure. With the echotec and bus box it should be very reliable and reasonably fast. Not worth more than 20k though. A good buddy purchased a long travel 2 seat, with Northstar and Mendeola last year for...20k. Just food for thought.
Wait till the end of the season, these high dollar buggies are gonna be a dime a dozen...

boatnaked
10-02-2007, 06:28 PM
a couple of links to compare to!
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=1815739&cat=403&lpid=7
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=1808823&cat=403&lpid=7
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=1796612&lpid=8&cat=403
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=1831765&lpid=6&cat=403
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=218&ad=1822359&cat=403&lpid=6
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=218&ad=1885321&lpid=2&cat=403

OGShocker
10-03-2007, 06:36 AM
That's a solid buggy for sure. With the echotec and bus box it should be very reliable and reasonably fast. Not worth more than 20k though. A good buddy purchased a long travel 2 seat, with Northstar and Mendeola last year for...20k. Just food for thought.
Darrell.
I agree!
We just bought a Desert Dynamics 4 seater 20" car for around 30k. There are GREAT DEALS to be had right now. Don't give asking price on any used stuff right now.

scarabrick2
10-03-2007, 06:37 AM
If you need engine work, Use Jeff at LJengines@msn.com
He was the main engine builder,(SUB) for GT PERFORMANCE and went on his own . He used to do a lot of machine work for Pfaff.
HE WILL build anything( boat motor, baja motor you name it...) you want at a WAY lower price.
HE Has his OWN full machine shop and still located in so. Calif.
He has a lot of referances and stands behind his work/word.
He did a motor for a very good friend of mine out in Vegas and the engine package hauls a$$.

2Driver
10-03-2007, 07:33 AM
Those cars could not be more different. It's like somebody saying "Look at my dog" and they're showing you a cat. If you don't know anything about the subject, just keep on going.
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Can't blame a guy for trying to help though. Yeah, those are not really desert runners but more on the old school sand buggy class side of things.
I am tempted to go see this but the idea of LS1 with a Fortin tranny seems more like me. :idea:
If you need engine work, Use Jeff at LJengines@msn.com
Thanks!

boatnam2
10-03-2007, 08:53 AM
freind has the same buggy,works good imo.I would say about 18k

Outnumbered
10-03-2007, 11:01 PM
Can't blame a guy for trying to help though. Yeah, those are not really desert runners but more on the old school sand buggy class side of things.
I am tempted to go see this but the idea of LS1 with a Fortin tranny seems more like me. :idea:
Thanks!
Just buy it. By the time time the season is over you will have sold it anyway and can pick up a smokin' deal on an LS1 at the end of the season:D

hkunz
10-04-2007, 11:43 AM
Those cars could not be more different. It's like somebody saying "Look at my dog" and they're showing you a cat. If you don't know anything about the subject, just keep on going.
Not that there's anything wrong with any of those cars.
I'd guess I'm one who doesn't know much about the subject. How are they so different, besides being in Utah? Both the subject vehicle and the online ad vehicles are VW based, rear engine, 4 cylinder. I'm not in the market right now, but my wife is every time she sees one, and if there is a major difference between an Ecotec and VW buggy (or something else I don't even know enough to recognize), I guess I should try to find out.

GETSOME
10-04-2007, 12:36 PM
How much were they asking for the one pictured on the top????