Howard V-drive

[motoman]

http://lh5.google.com/widetrack5/Rw1L4ikBw6I/AAAAAAAAACI/OupHx_Ztb20/09-08-07_1454.jpg?I have a 1970 Howard flat bottom V-drive. I am trying to find HIN and info. on model of this boat. Howard boats said their records did not go back that far. This is a bench seat model and v-drive is at your back poss.5 passanger.Will post some pix.as soon as I figure this out!

[GofastRacer]

That is because HIN numbers were not required until 72!...

[howardflatty]

lets see pics ive got one and i have never seen another

[motoman]

Hear are some pix.
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/widetrack5/10-11-07_0028-1.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/widetrack5/10-11-07_0033.jpg
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/widetrack5/10-11-07_0028.jpg

[vdriver4ever]

cool boat

[motoman]

Thanks I have not seen this type of Howard befor anybody else?
This is AKA GOLD MEMBER. LMAO!

[Rattle Can Lou]

There's almost a twin to that boat on here but it's 427 Ford powered...any chance you would sell that or did you just get it??? How could you stuff Ol' Dale in the corner like that...he might come outta there one night and slap the crap outta ya. There's one down the street from me also....the boat, not Dale.

[motoman]

It can be bought. I was just talking about that with a friend. The boat has a stock new 468 no frills, new interior lots of new pieces I have not jet installed yet. Gel is original but was cleared befor I bought the boat. Just rigged trailor blasted, painted, tires, wood, lights led, wiring and diamond plate. It is sweet and it runs about 60 GPS havent had time to tune out yet. Gears or prop don't know % on gears. Turns 5000 rpm. Fun Boat.

[Rattle Can Lou]

Where are you located???? This is exactly what my 4th brother is looking for..or I should say what I am looking for for him. He needs a nice clean, well taken care of flatty. I also have another friend looking.

[fc-pilot]

How could you stuff Ol' Dale in the corner like that...he might come outta there one night and slap the crap outta ya.
DALE?!?! Come on, that is the Professor of horse power Warren Johnson. I would love to have a stand up poster of Warren like that. By the way, nice boat.
Paul

[motoman]

I live in Arkansas I have a new boat on the way from Cal. in a few days might be able to get delivered for a fee!
There are four stand ups Warren,John Force, Jeff Gorden, And one indy driver! And Thanks

[Rattle Can Lou]

Paul, I so dearly apologize...I am blind and I saw the suit and jumped the gun...I won't take back my kick you ass comment because I met him in Indy at a go cart track during the PRI show and he wasnt the freindliest guy you could meet. Fast in a go cart though..

[fc-pilot]

No worries Lou. Just having a little fun. He can be a little bit of a pain at times but he has helped me out a few times too.
Now about the boat, that is a cool piece. That looks like it is a cool lake and river cruiser. What v-drive does it have in it? Our family has an old Hallett that is just like that thing. Seeing this boat brought back a bunch of memories.
Paul

[howardflatty]

here is mine a bit different though
http://a703.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/81/l_ae54fa6d0cbb23b3a7c7f1667b5bfc26.jpg

[Schiada Time]

The one up top looks like Old Riggers old Howard flatty. Same colors and patterns if I remember correct. I think his may have been on a single axle trailer though.
travis

[motoman]

It has a casale drive dont know %. Clean boat set outside for years I was surprised it has made it. The guy that owned it was rebuilding it and passed away. nobody wanted to pay their price, over 5 years it set for sale. I was looking for a V-Drive and this one was close to home. Cleaned up real well and to start it just look at the key

[motoman]

It has a casale drive dont know %. Clean boat set outside for years I was surprised it has made it. The guy that owned it was rebuilding it and passed away. nobody wanted to pay their price, over 5 years it set for sale. I was looking for a V-Drive and this one was close to home. Cleaned up real well and to start it just look at the key
Its oldschool but its cool!

[skyskier]

Thanks I have not seen this type of Howard befor anybody else?
This is AKA GOLD MEMBER. LMAO!
I ran the catalina ski race in a 1968 Howard 18 flattie Very similar to this one. Set up with a 427 Ford, had the bench seat which made it hard on the observer. It was owned by Ron Eckhoff from Lakewood, we pulled his wife Marge.

[palhal]

Motoman, I'm with you. It doesn't look like a Howard.-----PALHAL

[82SANGER]

It kind of looks like my dad's 67' Hallett?

[motoman]

The tag on the side of the boat reads Howard Boats Bellflower California. Very stout built boat. Very cool Hallett.

[dmontzsta]

That boat looks just like rrrr's.

[BOAT ANCHOR]

It's definitely a Howard. In the posted photos it exhibits the classic hand rails (gunwales) dyeing into the top of the transom at the back of the hull. The Hallett has a raised hand rail all the way around the radiused transom and in no way resembles the Howard transom. Both the Howard and the Hallett are beautiful examples of each respective hull manufactures work back in the day.

[sangervdrive]

It kind of looks like my dad's 67' Hallett?
WOW, thats bada$$

[rrrr]

It's a Howard.....:D
Mine's a '67.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40984&stc=1&d=1192222365

[old rigger]

The one up top looks like Old Riggers old Howard flatty. Same colors and patterns if I remember correct. I think his may have been on a single axle trailer though.
travis
Here's my old '66, FE powered. Kinda wish I'd kept it now. lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/flyin-t/howardflatcbbbb032.jpg

[en-fuego]

Hey thats a nice boat, love the old school!

[waterloged]

Do they ever make dash emblems for the Howards? I have a '85 howard and was curious if they had one for them? If they did, I would like to get one...

[VD CRUISER]

I had two of those Howard flats back in the day. They were great boats, and I had a lot of fun with them.

[motoman]

Do they ever make dash emblems for the Howards? I have a '85 howard and was curious if they had one for them? If they did, I would like to get one...
Mine didn,t have a dash emblem it has two one on each side between the two seats on the out side of the hoat

[motoman]

Anybody interested this HOWARD it is for sale! New boat on the way and it has got to go! The neck say so! "The head wont turn without neck!"

[Rattle Can Lou]

Price and maybe some more pics of the drivetrain area...what v-drive and how it's rigged??? That would help.

[motoman]

Casale is the drive i have not been the gear box to know the gears. I have a couple of pix. I will try to get you some more pix.

[motoman]

This pix. is from when I bought this boat so it is not as clean as it is now. The rails on the stringers did not use washers they have Alu. sandwitch plates That run to the gear box. Real slick!http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/widetrack5/07-28-07_1201.jpghttp://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd255/widetrack5/07-28-07_1201.jpg

[Rattle Can Lou]

Price, Price, Price....that's where ya gotta start..don't be scared, I can say no. Also, where is the boat...those two things are real important. Thanks

[motoman]

7500.00 boat is in Arkansas have a transporter headed this way with new boat would make a backhaul cheaper he got to go to cali.

[73 Kurtis]

It's a Howard.....:D
Mine's a '67.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40984&stc=1&d=1192222365
Nice boat, My Dad built it in 1967 we had it for over 35 years spent most of it's life at Parker AZ. Got some old pics of it and it even was in National Geographics in I think 1973. Lot of good memories. Love to talk to you about it

[rrrr]

No kidding, your dad built it, huh? I still have the pink slip with his name on it and some photos taken when it was being built in his driveway in the winter of '67.......
I have a copy of the National Geographic, too. :D
How cool is that? Finding more history about my ride.....:D :D

[jimsplace]

rrrr
That Howard of yours looks like new. It is truly amazing.
I saw the boat at Plowman's (Brazos river) in Texas last year and I think the year before that. I do not remember seeing you this year. Were you there?

[73 Kurtis]

It's a Howard.....:D
Mine's a '67.
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=40984&stc=1&d=1192222365
Nice boat, My Dad built it in 1967 we had it for over 35 years spent most of it's life at Parker AZ. Got some old pics of it and it even was in National Geographics in I think 1973. Lot of good memories. Love to talk to you about it
Yes, How long have you had it, My Dad sold it about 7 or 8 years ago me and my Brother and Sister have just started to talk to him again (just Kidding) but we were very upset when he sold it. I told the guy that bought it to let me know if or when he was going to sell it. So I was very surprized to see it today...

[rrrr]

I bought it in November 2001. The guy said he had plans to restore it but lost interest.
I left Dallas at 8 PM on Thanksgiving Day and made it to Lake Havasu City at 1 PM the following afternoon, in spite of snow from Albuquerque to Winslow.
I completely disassembled the boat and engine. The engine was good to go with a quick hone and new bearings. I left it all stock.
The only change I made to the boat was to add a wiring harness and some electrical stuff (like bilge pumps :D ), and I changed the v drive from the original Aero-Marine to a Casale.
I polished the heck out of everything, color sanded it, and put it all back together. It took almost a year to finish. It's really amazing that the upholstery is the same stuff installed in January 1968, and it still looks great.
In 2004 my wife and I took the boat back to the Colorado for the Classic Boat Beach Bash. The boat won First Place as the Most Classic V-drive. We drove down the river past the Parker Dam and saw the section of river where the National Geographic photos were taken in 1973. We bought the 1966 F100 in west Texas on the way back home for a tow vehicle.
Everywhere we go poeple people give us compliments about the boat. I'm really happy I decided to restore what was there instead of changing it.

[rrrr]

rrrr
That Howard of yours looks like new. It is truly amazing.
I saw the boat at Plowman's (Brazos river) in Texas last year and I think the year before that. I do not remember seeing you this year. Were you there?
Nahhh, we missed it. Went to Albuquerque to visit my parents. We'll be there next year!!

[Unchained]

here is mine a bit different though
http://a703.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/81/l_ae54fa6d0cbb23b3a7c7f1667b5bfc26.jpg
I'm pretty stuck on tunnel hulls but I've gotta say this is one damn nice looking boat. Any more pics or info about it ?
And I like the ladder going up to the flybridge too. :D

[sangervdrive]

I bought it in November 2001. The guy said he had plans to restore it but lost interest.
I left Dallas at 8 PM on Thanksgiving Day and made it to Lake Havasu City at 1 PM the following afternoon, in spite of snow from Albuquerque to Winslow.
I completely disassembled the boat and engine. The engine was good to go with a quick hone and new bearings. I left it all stock.
The only change I made to the boat was to add a wiring harness and some electrical stuff (like bilge pumps :D ), and I changed the v drive from the original Aero-Marine to a Casale.
I polished the heck out of everything, color sanded it, and put it all back together. It took almost a year to finish. It's really amazing that the upholstery is the same stuff installed in January 1968, and it still looks great.
In 2004 my wife and I took the boat back to the Colorado for the Classic Boat Beach Bash. The boat won First Place as the Most Classic V-drive. We drove down the river past the Parker Dam and saw the section of river where the National Geographic photos were taken in 1973. We bought the 1966 F100 in west Texas on the way back home for a tow vehicle.
Everywhere we go poeple people give us compliments about the boat. I'm really happy I decided to restore what was there instead of changing it.
Awesome story. I think everyone can appreciate how vintage-cool this boat is.

[RUSSO]

Not to steal a topic but...As far as i know my boat is a 68 hallett kinda looks like your boats but have beem told its other makes..What you guys think or how can i tell?? Thanks..http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/79FORDON44S/needleslagoon2.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/79FORDON44S/boatriver.jpg this one wont hepl but...http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/79FORDON44S/river020.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/79FORDON44S/MARTYISTHEBEST053.jpg
Hope these help;)

[rrrr]

Some photos of the boat from 1967.....taken in original owner Alvis William's driveway, Anaheim, CA. :cool:
Note the interior is still the same as pictures in above posts.....
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42539&stc=1&d=1194370398
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42540&stc=1&d=1194370432
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42541&stc=1&d=1194370468

[rrrr]

Cruising upriver in 1973.......
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42547&stc=1&d=1194384402

[Widetrack]

Very cool history!!! Mine looks close just in reverse color and chevy power! That boat is sweet!!! 70 model Howard! Orig. posted by Motoman

[Widetrack]

It's definitely a Howard. In the posted photos it exhibits the classic hand rails (gunwales) dyeing into the top of the transom at the back of the hull. The Hallett has a raised hand rail all the way around the radiused transom and in no way resembles the Howard transom. Both the Howard and the Hallett are beautiful examples of each respective hull manufactures work back in the day.
This is from page 1 RUSSO!

[73 Kurtis]

Some photos of the boat from 1967.....taken in original owner Alvis William's driveway, Anaheim, CA. :cool:
Note the interior is still the same as pictures in above posts.....
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42539&stc=1&d=1194370398
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42540&stc=1&d=1194370432
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42541&stc=1&d=1194370468
Yes That my Dads (Al Williams) Boat he ordered a stage one with a Cap not a stripe Howard was not happy he had to send it out for the Cap Dad did not like the metal all arond the boat. The boat sat on a mattress or two in the garage before the trailer was done. It took my Dad A few Weeks to drill the holes for the steering and Tach, went out every night just trying to get up the Nerve to cut in to that brand new fiberglass. After it was finished it spent it first 35 years at the River (Parker AZ) 1971 dad Bought a house on the river and kept it there. The Boat has never been left in the water overnite or beached. As kids are job was to keep towels on the seats, use are bodies as bumpers when docking and wash it every time it came out of the water.My Dad is a retired fireman so being a fireman he had alot time off so he would leave Mom and the kids down there all summer. That boat was a very big part of mine and my Familys life and was loved and enjoyed for about 35 years. I would like to talk to you more about the boat maybe I can give you my # or email address... Thanks ...........PS He also had a Holman & Moody Scoop on it for a little while.but the one on it know looks the best I think... I have the holman & moody scoop for sale..

[g935]

Cruising upriver in 1973.......
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=42547&stc=1&d=1194384402
From that view, that looks like Echo lodge in the distance and the two kids jumping off of idiot rock just down river from Buckskin.
Geoff

[rrrr]

Yes That my Dads (Al Williams) Boat he ordered a stage one with a Cap not a stripe Howard was not happy he had to send it out for the Cap Dad did not like the metal all arond the boat. The boat sat on a mattress or two in the garage before the trailer was done. It took my Dad A few Weeks to drill the holes for the steering and Tach, went out every night just trying to get up the Nerve to cut in to that brand new fiberglass. After it was finished it spent it first 35 years at the River (Parker AZ) 1971 dad Bought a house on the river and kept it there. The Boat has never been left in the water overnite or beached. As kids are job was to keep towels on the seats, use are bodies as bumpers when docking and wash it every time it came out of the water.My Dad is a retired fireman so being a fireman he had alot time off so he would leave Mom and the kids down there all summer. That boat was a very big part of mine and my Familys life and was loved and enjoyed for about 35 years. I would like to talk to you more about the boat maybe I can give you my # or email address... Thanks ...........PS He also had a Holman & Moody Scoop on it for a little while.but the one on it know looks the best I think... I have the holman & moody scoop for sale..
I have always wondered why the rear and transom had paint over the gel.....now I know. The tangerine metalflake is cracking a bit and the clear is getting thin. I am afraid to have it worked on, keeping the boat original is very important to me.
The guy I bought it from related the story about your dad and the tach hole........I really like the clean look of the dash, and the gauges mounted on the engine are pretty cool, just have to turn around to watch them, LOL.
My wife and I figured that the interior was always covered by towels......it's forty years old and still looks fantastic. I try hard to take care of it, we wipe it down when it comes out of the water and store it indoors with a cover on it. All in all the boat is in great shape, it's a tribute to your dad that it looks so nice.
I would like to talk to you about the scoop and other things too. Email me at fg.stew@verizon.net.

[73 Kurtis]

Love to talk to you more about the boat. I'll email you soon... Somebody is making me a offer on the Holman & Moody scoop but I'm not sure how much I'll let you know...

[RiverGames]

From that view, that looks like Echo lodge in the distance and the two kids jumping off of idiot rock just down river from Buckskin.
Geoff
definitely a quick swim up from sundance