Parker 300

[RitcheyRch]

Any news from the race?

[SternDrive1]

Here's some video from the race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0D2ad8Zwbs
I should have a link to a higher quality version in the morning...
-SternDrive
:)

[RitcheyRch]

Very cool.
Here's some video from the race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0D2ad8Zwbs
I should have a link to a higher quality version in the morning...
-SternDrive
:)

[BigDoug]

Damn, that was a cool little clip there........thank you !! :D

[raff]

Looks like it was a nice day out at the river, and a good turn out of boats.
thanks for sharing.

[V-DRIVE VIDEO]

Thanks for taking the time to put that up!

[OCMerrill]

Loved watching that.
Thanks!

[Wicky]

Doh....a big block spanking took place...by a fishing motor!!!! Hah!!!:D
Wait....update....Overall winner...Havasu Hot laps Joe and Havasu Barney and Brian?...Congrats guys!!! Way to win one for the eggbeaters!!!

[vishus]

does anyone have the overall list of the finishers?
how did Chad Hill do? Pat Bowman? Al Stoker?
thx.sid

[Moneypitt]

does anyone have the overall list of the finishers?
how did Chad Hill do? Pat Bowman? Al Stoker?
thx.sid
Give Ross a little time. I was a long day.....MP

[vishus]

Can you at least post the overall winner?

[Wicky]

Can you at least post the overall winner?
Havasu Barney and Havasu Hot Laps Joe!!

[vishus]

I believe that the NORDIC won, that would be Lonnie Fluent?

[RiverRatMike]

I believe that the NORDIC won, that would be Lonnie Fluent?
I think it was boat number 73

[FASTJTBT]

Would be from team nordic as for driver anyones guess but that is a stock boat

[DCBDaytona]

I think it was boat number 73
It was a beautiful day and the racing was awesome! Number 73 was the UNofficial winner, but later was DQed for starting in the wrong division...
CONGRATS to JOE in the 555 boat. Who would have thought an old beat up 21 Liberator with a 2.0L Merc would win it all? It's all in the strategy! :D

[Moneypitt]

It was a beautiful day and the racing was awesome! Number 73 was the UNofficial winner, but later was DQed for starting in the wrong division...
CONGRATS to JOE in the 555 boat. Who would have thought an old beat up 21 Liberator with a 2.0L Merc would win it all? It's all in the strategy! :D
So the Nordic showroom boat didn't win.......Cool, ..........I think the Parker 300 needs to be re named........Race ended 4 hours and 5 minutes,(Div 1 start time) 245 minutes, minus two ten minute pit stops, 225 minutes to go 300 miles, do the math...........MP

[vishus]

If I did my math right that averages to 80MPH. So a Div I boat would need to average 80mph to win the whole race... What division was the #555?
What NAME should the race be?

[Wicky]

If I did my math right that averages to 80MPH. About the same as last year. When you count the time, are you starting with Div I and ending with the winner?
What NAME should the race be?
"The Havasu Hot Laps 300!"

[Moneypitt]

If I did my math right that averages to 80MPH. So a Div I boat would need to average 80mph to win the whole race... What division was the #555?
What NAME should the race be?
In order to average 80 those boats would have to be well over a hundred for the entire straights.......I didn't see a single 100 MPH boat on the water, at least not in the south end of the course. IMO it was a short course......Not 5 mile laps.........MP

[RitcheyRch]

Congrats to the winner and sure wish I was there.

[stevo13]

I belive the driver of the nordic was Randy Davis of Nordic and the driver of 73 I believe was stevie davis Randy's son

[franky]

Havasu Barney and Havasu Hot Laps Joe!!
Brian Murphy from Tank-It Fabrication ran the first third and IMO helped them get a leg up, he ran hard!!! That even after losing about 3 minutes when the throttle stuck going into the turn at Badanocks. Pulled the lanyard and fixed things. Barney ran the second leg and Joe finished up.
Gary in the #17 Schiada ran REALLY HARD all day, I don't know what happened but my money was on him.
It was a very nice day and fun time.

[RiverRatMike]

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41578&stc=1&d=1192998190

[RiverRatMike]

http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41579&stc=1&d=1192998586Brian Murphy from Tank-It Fabrication ran the first third and IMO helped them get a leg up, he ran hard!!! That even after losing about 3 minutes when the throttle stuck going into the turn at Badanocks. Pulled the lanyard and fixed things. Barney ran the second leg and Joe finished up.
Gary in the #17 Schiada ran REALLY HARD all day, I don't know what happened but my money was on him.
It was a very nice day and fun time.

[pw_Tony]

So the Nordic showroom boat didn't win.......Cool, ..........I think the Parker 300 needs to be re named........Race ended 4 hours and 5 minutes,(Div 1 start time) 245 minutes, minus two ten minute pit stops, 225 minutes to go 300 miles, do the math...........MP
Yup... 80mph average sounds to fast with two 10 minute stops to go 300 miles. Too average 80mph, you would have to be doing WELL over 100mph in straights...

[motion]

thanks to everyone, it was a fun day and almost everything went perfect. In an endurance race it must go perfect or you have no chance to win, none. The 555 boat ran in div 1., it had a 2.0 powerhead. Set up Set up Set up is what it takes to run good, test test test, no substitutes. thanks to Brian and Kelly and all our family and friends for the days effort we could not have done it without all of you. FYI, my wife is cool with it all now because she collected the purse. Thanks, Joe Havasu Hotlaps
FYI, the inboard boats are fast, as soon as one of them has a perfect day they will be unbeatable. Special thanks to all the officials who represented the race, you all represented the event with pride and dignity, I was very impressed. Thanks again,

[Moneypitt]

thanks to everyone, it was a fun day and almost everything went perfect. In an endurance race it must go perfect or you have no chance to win, none. The 555 boat ran in div 1., it had a 2.0 powerhead. Set up Set up Set up is what it takes to run good, test test test, no substitutes. thanks to Brian and Kelly and all our family and friends for the days effort we could not have done it without all of you. FYI, my wife is cool with it all now because she collected the purse. Thanks, Joe Havasu Hotlaps
FYI, the inboard boats are fast, as soon as one of them has a perfect day they will be unbeatable. Special thanks to all the officials who represented the race, you all represented the event with pride and dignity, I was very impressed. Thanks again,
Congratulations, you earned every bit of it............Ray

[RiverRatMike]

thanks to everyone, it was a fun day and almost everything went perfect. In an endurance race it must go perfect or you have no chance to win, none. The 555 boat ran in div 1., it had a 2.0 powerhead. Set up Set up Set up is what it takes to run good, test test test, no substitutes. thanks to Brian and Kelly and all our family and friends for the days effort we could not have done it without all of you. FYI, my wife is cool with it all now because she collected the purse. Thanks, Joe Havasu Hotlaps
FYI, the inboard boats are fast, as soon as one of them has a perfect day they will be unbeatable. Special thanks to all the officials who represented the race, you all represented the event with pride and dignity, I was very impressed. Thanks again,
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41589&stc=1&d=1193006753

[burtandnancy2]

Great, great video, thanks. Did they hold up the two ski boats at the start and if so why? Will be looking for the various class winners when posted...

[DCBDaytona]

Great, great video, thanks. Did they hold up the two ski boats at the start and if so why? Will be looking for the various class winners when posted...
Both of the WICKED Nordic Ski Race boats broke down...damn blower motors.;) They were fast as hell though!

[DCBDaytona]

:D Lets not forget the division 6 boats have to wait some 50+ minutes before they get to go, that said, Gary H in "Team Justified" # 17 Schiada only finished 4 laps down !!! in 3rd or 4th overall, he and his co-driver John Franklin put a heck of a show on, especially during the pit/fuel stops !!! looked like a mini- F1 Team, class act !!!
Congrats to the 555 team, just wait till next year when that gap is reduced to say 30 minutes !!!!
Was an awesome weekend in Havi & Parker !!
Scott:D
Agreed...I was most impressed with the 21 RC Schiada dubbed "Justified." He was haulin' the mail on every lap! Even with the 50 min. delay of Div. 6, I think if Warpath was still runnin' he would have caught up and won.
I'm sure if the time spread is dropped to 30min., they'll be another way for the slower guys to exploit it and win. Definitely some great thought put into boat 555's strategy. :)

[motion]

i think the handicaps are pretty close now. i have lap times from every boat that ran and if the fastest boat could have maintained their pace within a 10 percent margin per lap they would have beat the 555 team. the handicap can not be factored to allow for potential breakdowns or unscheduled pit stops. it should continue to be based upon boat potential alone. the 555 boat is 21' and ran a 150hp outboard vs warpath at 1800 hp (awesome) . however, it would not be fair to factor in that 1800hp may blow a drive so we should allow extra time for that? i have to prepare a 2.0 to run 7000 rpm for 4hrs, its not easy, bigger, faster, is always more fun for the viewer but it doesn't mean its better. cost is also a factor, what i did this year could be accomplished by many regular guys that are working on a budget, lots of labor, set up and testing. the classes are fair it just takes lots of prep time and some good luck regardless of what you run. I bet truth be told you could pick a boat from any class take its best lap time and find out it could have won if they could have ran that all day long. thanks again to all the officials, your program is great. joe

[slowinhavasu]

Concrats to Kelly, Brian and Joe, and the entire team. Great day of racing, just proves you don't have to be the biggest or the fastest boat on the water.....:D

[bestboys]

http://www.msnusers.com/boatracingHats off to Best Boys Racing GN145 Jim Best, and John Best aka the soft shoe powered by a Duramax Diesel Granpa would be Proud, and to GN140 Skip Ewing and Bob Williams aka Biker Bob... the Spirit of Aero Marine lives on

[HowardFlat]

thanks to everyone, it was a fun day and almost everything went perfect. In an endurance race it must go perfect or you have no chance to win, none. The 555 boat ran in div 1., it had a 2.0 powerhead. Set up Set up Set up is what it takes to run good, test test test, no substitutes. thanks to Brian and Kelly and all our family and friends for the days effort we could not have done it without all of you. FYI, my wife is cool with it all now because she collected the purse. Thanks, Joe Havasu Hotlaps
FYI, the inboard boats are fast, as soon as one of them has a perfect day they will be unbeatable. Special thanks to all the officials who represented the race, you all represented the event with pride and dignity, I was very impressed. Thanks again,
What happened to you at the beginning? I saw you pull off and fix something?

[BigBoyBlue]

I was helping pit/pump fuel for Gary Hairabedian and #17 Justified. It was a great race, and luckily a safe one too. We were on a mission, and failed to take first overall so there was some disappointment, but a first in class and third overall is nice. A replica of the 2005 race for us. I feel bad that the #73 nordic got DQ'd because they did run a very good race. Congratulations to #555 for the win, fast outboard cat. Mike Avila's Warpath was running circles around everyone, but unfortunately broke 2 times. Im not going to state my only complaint about the race, but those that run in difficult DIV 6 probably know what it is.

[motion]

great photo riverratmike, where do i get more to purchase? yes we did stop, we had a throttle linkage issue, luckily it was a quick fix we only lost a minute or so, definately did make the heart flutter at first. division 1 does not allow for many mistake, there is no such thing as making up time on the track. if you lift you stop.

[bordsmnj]

i think the handicaps are pretty close now. i have lap times from every boat that ran and if the fastest boat could have maintained their pace within a 10 percent margin per lap they would have beat the 555 team. the handicap can not be factored to allow for potential breakdowns or unscheduled pit stops. it should continue to be based upon boat potential alone. the 555 boat is 21' and ran a 150hp outboard vs warpath at 1800 hp (awesome) . however, it would not be fair to factor in that 1800hp may blow a drive so we should allow extra time for that? i have to prepare a 2.0 to run 7000 rpm for 4hrs, its not easy, bigger, faster, is always more fun for the viewer but it doesn't mean its better. cost is also a factor, what i did this year could be accomplished by many regular guys that are working on a budget, lots of labor, set up and testing. the classes are fair it just takes lots of prep time and some good luck regardless of what you run. I bet truth be told you could pick a boat from any class take its best lap time and find out it could have won if they could have ran that all day long. thanks again to all the officials, your program is great. joe
Congratulations! you guys kicked ass. it was nice meeting you after the race.
-Jas and Linda

[STVBOY]

Congrats Joe, Kelly and Brain you guys looked good out there!I knew it would be the class to beat! Did anything happen to the #48 boat because he did have a pretty decent lead on you guys after the second lap when you guys had the throttle cable issue?Its also to bad that #73 made a class mistake because it would have been a great ending between you guys and #17 boat at the finish if the race wasn't ended early!

[Squirtin Thunder]

A few pics I have found;
http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19332&stc=1&d=1193020724
http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19333&stc=1&d=1193020724
http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19334&stc=1&d=1193020724
http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19335&stc=1&d=1193020724

[RiverRatMike]

great photo riverratmike, where do i get more to purchase? yes we did stop, we had a throttle linkage issue, luckily it was a quick fix we only lost a minute or so, definately did make the heart flutter at first. division 1 does not allow for many mistake, there is no such thing as making up time on the track. if you lift you stop.
I might have a few more photos of the boat, I'll have to look. I took photos of every boat at least twice that went by.

[SternDrive1]

Here's a couple of pics that my wife took:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/Parker_Enduro_591.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/Parker_Enduro_588.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/Parker_Enduro_337.jpg
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/Parker_Enduro_154.jpg

[Mrs. Bordsmnj]

I had so much fun at the races. We only lasted 24 laps but we looked good for 24 laps!!!! :D I cannot wait for next year!!
;)

[franky]

i think the handicaps are pretty close now. i have lap times from every boat that ran and if the fastest boat could have maintained their pace within a 10 percent margin per lap they would have beat the 555 team. the handicap can not be factored to allow for potential breakdowns or unscheduled pit stops. it should continue to be based upon boat potential alone. the 555 boat is 21' and ran a 150hp outboard vs warpath at 1800 hp (awesome) . however, it would not be fair to factor in that 1800hp may blow a drive so we should allow extra time for that? i have to prepare a 2.0 to run 7000 rpm for 4hrs, its not easy, bigger, faster, is always more fun for the viewer but it doesn't mean its better. cost is also a factor, what i did this year could be accomplished by many regular guys that are working on a budget, lots of labor, set up and testing. the classes are fair it just takes lots of prep time and some good luck regardless of what you run. I bet truth be told you could pick a boat from any class take its best lap time and find out it could have won if they could have ran that all day long. thanks again to all the officials, your program is great. joe
Joe, you guys did great and YOU GUYS DID IT!!! No worries.

[riverbound]

I had so much fun at the races. We only lasted 24 laps but we looked good for 24 laps!!!! :D I cannot wait for next year!!
;)
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/Riverbound/Parker3002007011.jpg
FIL :D

[franky]

:D only cuz you won.........:D , but then again if I brought my 21 out with its blown 454, i'd have to run against warpath, lets see 700 hp versus 1800:eek: :eek: but it would be fun!!!, well see.
Scott
Blah, blah blah:D
When the smoke clears it is who can last!!! It is what it is. BTW Gary did a great job and ran hard.

[Mrs. Bordsmnj]

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/Riverbound/Parker3002007011.jpg
FIL :D
LOL! Nice, you have to post a pic of us breaking down, not one of us ruling ass while still running! ;)
FIL

[riverbound]

LOL! Nice, you have to post a pic of us breaking down, not one of us ruling ass while still running! ;)
FIL
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/Riverbound/Parker3002007008.jpg
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/Riverbound/Parker3002007005.jpg

[RiverRatMike]

great photo riverratmike, where do i get more to purchase? yes we did stop, we had a throttle linkage issue, luckily it was a quick fix we only lost a minute or so, definately did make the heart flutter at first. division 1 does not allow for many mistake, there is no such thing as making up time on the track. if you lift you stop.
Sorry Motion, I just checked and I don't have any more of boat 555.
This guy I swear I thought he was going to eat it!
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41658&stc=1&d=1193099576

[franky]

Sorry Motion, I just checked and I don't have any more of boat 555.
This guy I swear I thought he was going to eat it!
http://www.***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=41658&stc=1&d=1193099576
All day!!!

[Kim Hanson]

Doh....a big block spanking took place...by a fishing motor!!!! Hah!!!:D
Wait....update....Overall winner...Havasu Hot laps Joe and Havasu Barney and Brian?...Congrats guys!!! Way to win one for the eggbeaters!!!
I knew there was a God............( . )( . )...........:D :D

[Squirtin Thunder]

Pat broke the transom and his seat broke free. The transom was cracked from one side to the other.
http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19354&stc=1&d=1193023619
http://www.boatracingfacts.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=19355&stc=1&d=1193023619

[RiverRatMike]

wow that sucks, at times it looked like that outboard was going to break right off the back

[billet racing 1]

Gongrats to the Whackers. For an endurance race, they are hard to beat. Maybe now we will have a better showing at the BBSP
Good work guys.
Jerry

[Moneypitt]

Gongrats to the Whackers. For an endurance race, they are hard to beat. Maybe now we will have a better showing at the BBSP
Good work guys.
Jerry
Only if you run for 4 hours plus, then stop the race a couple of laps early...........(I did not refer to 300 miles)......MP

[franky]

Only if you run for 4 hours plus, then stop the race a couple of laps early...........(I did not refer to 300 miles)......MP
WWAAAAAHHHHH, :D :D

[franky]

Only if you run for 4 hours plus, then stop the race a couple of laps early...........(I did not refer to 300 miles)......MP
Even if you did run a couple more laps, would have still been an outboard!!
1st-555 1 Joe Abellera, LHC, AZ Brian Murphy, LHC, AZ Kelly Dunn, LHC, AZ 58
2nd-48 1 John Lane, Bellflower, CA John Roth, Harbor City, CA 57
3rd-34 3 Chad Hill, Costa Mesa, CA 53
4rth-17 6 Gary Hairbedian, Whittier, CA John Franklin, Rancho Cucamonga, CA 53
5th-140 5 Gary Ewing, Phelan, CA Bob Williams, Upland, CA 52
6th-211 4 Jason Miller, Discovery Bay, CA Steve Lucci, Byron, CA 49
7th-73 4 Carl Johnson, Parker, AZ 48
8th-312 5 Randy Lewis, San Diego, CA Bob Kitchens, Mukilteo, WA 48
9th-819 1 Al James, West Covina, CA Bill James, Harbor City, CA 47
10th-145 2 James Best, Pinon Hills, CA John Best, Oak Hills, CA 46
My hats off to Gary and I was rooting for him but but would he have made up 5 laps in 2?

[Moneypitt]

OK OK the OBs were running well at the enduro. Still that is an enduro, not a blast lasting a few seconds.......My comment was taken wrong.....OB vs BB at BBSP is a drag type race, (right?) not an endurance event.......And yeah, the inboard Nordic didn't realize he was starting illegally with inboard V drives. Wonder who figured that one out?.............MP

[Mrs. Bordsmnj]

Moneypitt, why do you poo-poo everything about the race? The course length, this, that? I don't think it would have made a difference to you team?
It just seems your glass is always half empty. Why partcipate?
don't get me wrong, I am not picking on your and your team. We did not finish the race either but we are not crying about the course length or the outboards or this or that.

[riverbound]

Moneypitt, why do you poo-poo everything about the race? The course length, this, that? I don't think it would have made a difference to you team?
It just seems your glass is always half empty. Why partcipate?
don't get me wrong, I am not picking on your and your team. We did not finish the race either but we are not crying about the course length or the outboards or this or that.
Becasue he has no life and cant buy one either.
Its funny to watch him sit here and cry like a little girl, when it makes no difference wahtsoever to his team. it could have been a 900 mile enduro.

[Mrs. Bordsmnj]

I just don't get why people complain after all the races about this or that. I am sure its quite the ordeal to put the race on and after all, it is for fun and the love of the sport right?
We had a blast and I cannot wait for next year.
BTW Bill, is your big Bear house ok?

[riverbound]

I just don't get why people complain after all the races about this or that. I am sure its quite the ordeal to put the race on and after all, it is for fun and the love of the sport right?
We had a blast and I cannot wait for next year.
BTW Bill, is your big Bear house ok?
Next year will be fun.
Yes the house in big Bear is fine...but my dads house in crestline isnt looking to good :(

[Moneypitt]

I am not "poo pooing" the race or the racers. Everyone made a tremoundous effort to even start this race. The length of the course, as stated, and the lap times recorded do not match. It seems no one else cares that average speeds would be in the low 90s to make the times mentioned. I am well aware what a 100 MPH boat looks like on the water, and there were very few, if any, in this race. If asking embarassing questions about the course length ruffles some feathers, so be it.........BTW, the 72 boat was not "my team"......I was assisting the 72 boat in what ever was needed, as were several others. Anyone that doubts my "love of the sport" doesn't know me or the sacrafices I have made in the name of boat racing. This was just one of the many races I have attended this year, just one of several boats I have been involved with, and just one of many success/failure stories......If a race is suppose to run 300 miles, it should run 300 miles.
If I had not been involved at all, if I had no respect for the race or the racers, if I had no love for the sport, if I had no life, I could have been taking pictures of the failures to degrade those that tried and failed........Now that is truly a love of the sport, right?...............Ray

[Mrs. Bordsmnj]

I am not "poo pooing" the race or the racers. Everyone made a tremoundous effort to even start this race. The length of the course, as stated, and the lap times recorded do not match. It seems no one else cares that average speeds would be in the low 90s to make the times mentioned. I am well aware what a 100 MPH boat looks like on the water, and there were very few, if any, in this race. If asking embarassing questions about the course length ruffles some feathers, so be it.........BTW, the 72 boat was not "my team"......I was assisting the 72 boat in what ever was needed, as were several others. Anyone that doubts my "love of the sport" doesn't know me or the sacrafices I have made in the name of boat racing. This was just one of the many races I have attended this year, just one of several boats I have been involved with, and just one of many success/failure stories......If a race is suppose to run 300 miles, it should run 300 miles.
If I had not been involved at all, if I had no respect for the race or the racers, if I had no love for the sport, if I had no life, I could have been taking pictures of the failures to degrade those that tried and failed........Now that is truly a love of the sport, right?...............Ray
Ray, like I said, my intent is not to pick on you or Team 72 or anyone. If you happen to notice, pictures were taken of our boat broken down in the same spot. :D
whatever! Team Short Bus/DCM Racing will be back next year for sure! :)

[superdave013]

cheer up SaniteCluase! :D
Linda, did you take away his Ripple or something??

[Moneypitt]

After the first one I thought I would try something for the next one. Well that didn't work out, and I missed last year. Now I'm again thinking of starting on something to enter in next years enduro......However, we (PS89) have Parker in November to deal with now, and so does Jim, (CJ72) with a busted motor. I think the key is a mild built engine, with enough gear and prop to loaf around the turns and run consistant down the long straights. Now I just need to establish how long the laps are going to be.........Ray

[Squeezing Spectra]

I think the key is a mild built engine
This is a good idea just not a ford in a jet LOL :D

[superdave013]

Now I just need to establish how long the laps are going to be.........Ray
take a ride on the river with a GPS and you'll know. SK48 did that the very first year and did report on the lenght. I can't remember what it was but it was less then 5 and more then 4.

[Moneypitt]

I think the key is a mild built engine
This is a good idea just not a ford in a jet LOL :D
Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Oldsmobile, hell even a Duramax.....Little difference after it is "customized" it becomes just another engine.......Jet, v drive, in/out, and/or an outboard...300 miles will take a toll on equipment and driver(s)... None of my comments are meant to take anything away from those that ran this race, they deserve an "atta boy" for even trying, and a "hell yeah" for succeeding, by just finishing...........Ray

[superdave013]

Hey Moneypit, I like it when guys take shit about NASCAR cup cars. I always tell them if you think it's easy to run 9K RPM for 500 miles give it a try sometime. lol

[Rainman918]

take a ride on the river with a GPS and you'll know. SK48 did that the very first year and did report on the lenght. I can't remember what it was but it was less then 5 and more then 4.
Seems to me it was about 4.4-4.5 miles... I made 35 laps (damn battery bracket broke on lap 10 and I lost about 45 minutes... It also didn't help starting 50 minutes after the eventual winner...) and I think the GPS was around 160mi or so... I don't remember exactly and it's long since been reset, but I think that's close... We were running mid-high 70's and low 80's pretty much the entire race, and my lap times show about a 75 mph average if it was five miles...

[Moneypitt]

Seems to me it was about 4.4-4.5 miles... I made 35 laps (damn battery bracket broke on lap 10 and I lost about 45 minutes... It also didn't help starting 50 minutes after the eventual winner...) and I think the GPS was around 160mi or so... I don't remember exactly and it's long since been reset, but I think that's close... We were running mid-high 70's and low 80's pretty much the entire race, and my lap times show about a 75 mph average if it was five miles...
So, you agree the course was short. So, the handicaps should have been re figured as well............50 minutes in 300 miles is different than 50 minutes in 250-270 miles.........Again, I'm not taking anything away from the racers, a true accomplishment just to start, let alone finish, regardless of the outcome......Ray

[bordsmnj]

well, i come up with roughly 4.6 miles per lap from sitting here with my calculator but it's no big deal. just means i had more spare fuel than i thought. (anyone wanna by av gas cheap?) i'd rather the course be shorter with the turn in a good spot as oppsed to putting the turn in a bad spot. any longer and it would take longer for a tow boat should yuh need it, etc.

[Squirtin Thunder]

Jason it was good to meet you again, you guys looked great out there. How accurate is the distance you came up with.

[Rainman918]

well, i come up with roughly 4.6 miles per lap from sitting here with my calculator but it's no big deal. just means i had more spare fuel than i thought. (anyone wanna by av gas cheap?) i'd rather the course be shorter with the turn in a good spot as oppsed to putting the turn in a bad spot. any longer and it would take longer for a tow boat should yuh need it, etc.
If you're using my GPS and lap numbers to come up with the 4.6 you'd have to add about 3/4 of a lap that I ran (and didn't get counted) before the battery let go...
I agree with your turn comment though... I don't know if there is a better spot up the river (within the next mile or two), but I do know that the north turn got hairy at times if you were in the middle of a pack of boats... Lots of crossing wakes and big holes coming out of the turn and trying to accelerate when that was the case...
All in all I can't complain too much... We took a boat that was way too heavy (we were at 1600 lbs and not off the trailer yet at weigh in and only needed to be 1350 lbs and that's before my rather large self plopped into the drivers seat) and ended up third in Div 5 (primarily because we broke less than everyone else), and could have been up near/in the top 10 without that... I figure I'll have to run a different boat or get a better handicap break to really have a chance overall, but I'll definitely be back next year! It was a blast!

[franky]

So, you agree the course was short. So, the handicaps should have been re figured as well............50 minutes in 300 miles is different than 50 minutes in 250-270 miles.........Again, I'm not taking anything away from the racers, a true accomplishment just to start, let alone finish, regardless of the outcome......Ray
How about this:
Do you think that perhaps if the Nordic guy didn't "finish" first casing the race to end (in actuallit two laps early), things might have been different (race should have gone 2 more laps)???:confused: :confused:

[bordsmnj]

the guy left 20 minutes early there fore the race was act

[ColeTR2]

So, you agree the course was short. So, the handicaps should have been re figured as well............50 minutes in 300 miles is different than 50 minutes in 250-270 miles.........Again, I'm not taking anything away from the racers, a true accomplishment just to start, let alone finish, regardless of the outcome......Ray
That and carl interring the 73 boat in the wrong class and ending the race early.. I don't know why they just don't let all the classes go the distance if there support to all end at the same time. Then if something like this happen you can figure out who the winner is. but once you stop the race you can't un-ring the bell. And it just make the hole race invalided.

[STVBOY]

How about this:
Do you think that perhaps if the Nordic guy didn't "finish" first casing the race to end (in actuallit two laps early), things might have been different (race should have gone 2 more laps)???:confused: :confused:
NO!