Lake Boats-How fast is fast...

[Mr Twister]

OK, When can you say your boat is "Fast."

[1Bahnerjet]

The RANGER on the Lake I normally boat on sez, over 35mph is TOO fast :rolleyes: :(
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[ September 11, 2003, 02:26 PM: Message edited by: 1Bahnerjet ]

[hoolign]

whenever your in the out board section...sorry could'nt resist :p

[Jungle Boy]

Mr Twister:
OK, When can you say your boat is "Fast." Just after you beat the guy that you were racing.

[Unchained]

In my opinion, When your talking about lake boats that have at least two seats, have the ability to pull a skier, and can carry enough fuel to run for at least 20 miles, Then anything over 80 mph is fast. :D

[Jake W]

I was thinking 80 and over also. :D
Jake

[77charger]

over 70 i would consider fast for a lake boat.

[1slowboat]

:( i guess that i have to keep working on my boat, idea maybee if i pull all the int. out i can make 80,.......na hull is to heavy, i guess that 75 will have to do :rolleyes: :D

[moneysucker]

1slowboat:
:( i guess that i have to keep working on my boat, idea maybee if i pull all the int. out i can make 80,.......na hull is to heavy, i guess that 75 will have to do :rolleyes: :D Just put the bottle to it until you reach your desired speed. (Of course when you get there it still won't be fast enough.)
There are jet boats that can carry enough fuel to go 20 miles?!! WTF I have never had one of those.

[quiet riot]

I think its aways changing, 80 in my jet used to seem really fast, now I guess I'm just getting used to it and want more. I guess its ok for having all the crap I have in it and using it for fishing and skiing.
I only get about 65 now without the N2O, which makes it seem slow when compared to running on the bottle, thats why I'm building a new motor to try and get over 80 before N2O.
But then I'll probably hit the bottle and run 90 and then be bored with 80 when I'm not using the N2O.
can't win,
jd

[Danhercules]

On lake Havasu on a big weekend, 50 is fast!!!!!!!

[Wet Dream]

Danhercules:
On lake Havasu on a big weekend, 50 is fast!!!!!!! RIGHT ON!!! Then I now have a fast boat!!! :D
Well I did...until it blew this weekend. cry
[ September 11, 2003, 07:31 PM: Message edited by: Wet Dream ]

[Mr Twister]

YEAH....I'm cool with 50

[HavasuBarney]

hoolign:
whenever your in the out board section...sorry could'nt resist :p Sorry I was a little behind in this thread, 80 makes you fast! I just don't think you'll get there in a jet! :cool:

[Beautiful Noise]

1Bahnerjet:
over 35mph is TOO fast :rolleyes: (
[/QB]Then I guess with my Blazing 37 1/2mph I'd be a Fast Boat,Just my luck now I might have to start wearing a Jacket :D :D :D
Steve

[cyclone]

i think that anything over 70 mph especially in a jet boat is fast.

[mrgoslow]

80 might be the consensus, w/79.4 guess i might have to change screen name if i find the right nozzle and ride plate setting. sweet.

[Slick]

If my pig could hit 55, that would be fast for my lake boat.

[Hotcrusader76]

moneysucker:
1slowboat:
:( i guess that i have to keep working on my boat, idea maybee if i pull all the int. out i can make 80,.......na hull is to heavy, i guess that 75 will have to do :rolleyes: :D Just put the bottle to it until you reach your desired speed. (Of course when you get there it still won't be fast enough.)
There are jet boats that can carry enough fuel to go 20 miles?!! WTF I have never had one of those. Lucky if I can 10 without filling up..LMAO :D

[Liberator TJ1984]

HavasuBarney:
hoolign:
whenever your in the out board section...sorry could'nt resist :p Sorry I was a little behind in this thread, 80 makes you fast! I just don't think you'll get there in a jet! :cool: You just have'nt been in the right Jet wink
I may be able to help ya see the light :D :p :D
MrGoSlow I seem to recall a big Blue Bottle and some hoses at the Barn :confused: that just might get you over the hump :D
[ September 12, 2003, 11:04 AM: Message edited by: Liberator TJ1984 ]

[Unchained]

Hotcrusader76:
[There are jet boats that can carry enough fuel to go 20 miles?!! WTF I have never had one of those. Lucky if I can go 10 without filling up..LMAO D I think I could go 20 mi with my boat.
I've got two 8 gal stainless tanks mounted in the gunnels.
The fuel economy at 3000rpm / 36 mph is not too bad.
:rolleyes:
[ September 12, 2003, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: Unchained ]

[Blown 472]

Never, oil burning pos.

[LVjetboy]

Here's my thought...
Slow: 55 and below
So-so: 55-60
Average: 60-65
Above Average: 65-70
Fast: 70-80
Very Fast: 80-95
Racer: 95+
As far as I know, these are hard fast rules.
But then, what is a "lake boat?" And what lake are we talking about...Lake Powell?
:)
jer

[Snorider]

Hotcrusader76:
moneysucker:
1slowboat:
:( i guess that i have to keep working on my boat, idea maybee if i pull all the int. out i can make 80,.......na hull is to heavy, i guess that 75 will have to do :rolleyes: :D Just put the bottle to it until you reach your desired speed. (Of course when you get there it still won't be fast enough.)
There are jet boats that can carry enough fuel to go 20 miles?!! WTF I have never had one of those. Lucky if I can 10 without filling up..LMAO :D Jeez, with both tanks full (15gals each), i can run 60mph for probably a solid hour... That is at WOT...
Lower the throttle to a nice 45-50mph, and i can go about 100miles on 30gallons...
And i thought my boat was bad... LOL

[Moomawnster]

Hell, I drove OVER 75 miles last trip. and the tanks were not even full! [2-10gal] of course at 60mph I am not ..... FAST :rolleyes:

[TIMINATOR]

Mine wont be fast until it runs 100mph with no power adders,then it gets the 8-71 or Cheater kit. It runs 90-91 with full fuel (48 gal.) and me and wife, good for ALL DAY on the lake. Was out at Lake Plesant,AZ. yesterday most of the day, RADARED EVERYTHING that moved,the fastest I saw was a bass boat with a clamp-on at 63 mph picking on everyone. I gave him the short info course on jets! Everyone here ya talk to thinks they have the fastest thing,but the Stalker don't lie. And for those of you locals that think I haven't RADARed you,I have TWO boats! TIMMINATOR

[Tahiti Owner]

Snorider:
Hotcrusader76:
moneysucker:
1slowboat:
:( i guess that i have to keep working on my boat, idea maybee if i pull all the int. out i can make 80,.......na hull is to heavy, i guess that 75 will have to do :rolleyes: :D Just put the bottle to it until you reach your desired speed. (Of course when you get there it still won't be fast enough.)
There are jet boats that can carry enough fuel to go 20 miles?!! WTF I have never had one of those. Lucky if I can 10 without filling up..LMAO :D Jeez, with both tanks full (15gals each), i can run 60mph for probably a solid hour... That is at WOT...
Lower the throttle to a nice 45-50mph, and i can go about 100miles on 30gallons...
And i thought my boat was bad... LOL Fast is when my girls start screaming to SLOW DOWN DAD!!!!
I usually burn up 27 gallons in about 2 hours between skiing and just cruising...
[ September 17, 2003, 04:20 PM: Message edited by: Tahiti Owner ]

[AJ]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/191Im000286-med.jpg
GPS"D it last month, I think it did pretty well for a lake boat :D
Maybe faster nest year

[LVjetboy]

Nice numbers AJ. Impeller size and rpm? Engine specs and hull? Just curious.
jer

[AJ]

LVjetboy:
Nice numbers AJ. Impeller size and rpm? Engine specs and hull? Just curious.
jer 75 Hallett (heavy layup)
Impeller size is B-cut @ 5800 rpm
454 .030"over with close chambered heads.
camshaft duration 252-262 lift 601-620
This Boat is going up for sale with this engine or stock 454 :D :D

[bigriverdog]

Talk to me AJ. Whats the $$$$ on that Hallett. Is it the 18' 10" bubble deck? How original etc? I bought a 1975 new from Nick and owned it 12 years. It was a great boat and I may like another one. Bob

[AJ]

bigriverdog:
Talk to me AJ. Whats the $$$$ on that Hallett. Is it the 18' 10" bubble deck? How original etc? I bought a 1975 new from Nick and owned it 12 years. It was a great boat and I may like another one. Bob Yes it is an 18' 10" bubble deck...Very original who else would put brown interior in a boat now days, and it is still in good shape Ü Check out the pics in the image center or I can email you some. I will be out of town until Monday night.

[1slowboat]

btw, i was talking about mph,not gph :D
thats why i think my boat is still a "slowboat"
i'm loking for another eliminater sprint if any one has one for sale wink
i will sell my hull and trailer for 3,000 witout the motor.
looking for a lighter hull :p
i have the need for speed

[djdtpr]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LVjetboy:
[qb] Here's my thought...
Slow: 55 and below
So-so: 55-60
Average: 60-65
Above Average: 65-70
Fast: 70-80
Very Fast: 80-95
Racer: 95+
Well thanks for bursting my bubble you didnt even put terd statis for mine.
55-40 terd statis wink
[ September 24, 2003, 09:07 PM: Message edited by: djdplacecraft ]

[LVjetboy]

Thanks AJ for the info. Strong 454 30 over for B @ 5800. Best wishes on your sale.
djdplacecraft, terd status and placecraft...no comprendo? Guess again on your mph.
:)
jer

[F N Fast]

TIMINATOR:
Mine wont be fast until it runs 100mph with no power adders,then it gets the 8-71 or Cheater kit. It runs 90-91 with full fuel (48 gal.) and me and wife, good for ALL DAY on the lake. Was out at Lake Plesant,AZ. yesterday most of the day, RADARED EVERYTHING that moved,the fastest I saw was a bass boat with a clamp-on at 63 mph picking on everyone. I gave him the short info course on jets! Everyone here ya talk to thinks they have the fastest thing,but the Stalker don't lie. And for those of you locals that think I haven't RADARed you,I have TWO boats! TIMMINATOR Wow is it deep in here!
So you run your 21' Daytona jet, "all day" all the time at 90, really now?

[1slowboat]

" how fast is fast"
when you have to sell your boat to keep up with the jonses

[HBjet]

AJ:
75 Hallett (heavy layup)
Impeller size is B-cut @ 5800 rpm
454 .030"over with close chambered heads.
camshaft duration 252-262 lift 601-620
This Boat is going up for sale with this engine or stock 454 :D :D Man, what compression ratio is your motor?
My 454 .030 over with a B impeller only turned 5100-5150. That's really good. Your cam is bigger then the cam I had.
My best speed was 80.6mph with that motor and pump in my hull.
HBjet

[AJ]

HBjet:
AJ:
75 Hallett (heavy layup)
Impeller size is B-cut @ 5800 rpm
454 .030"over with close chambered heads.
camshaft duration 252-262 lift 601-620
This Boat is going up for sale with this engine or stock 454 :D :D Man, what compression ratio is your motor?
My 454 .030 over with a B impeller only turned 5100-5150. That's really good. Your cam is bigger then the cam I had.
My best speed was 80.6mph with that motor and pump in my hull.
HBjet compression ratio is 11 1/2 to1
It has a C-bowl on it but was thinking of putting a split bowl with a droop,,,,do you think I will gain anything?? :D :D

[MAXIMUS]

A friend of mine has a bone stock challenger jet, I mean bone stock hull & pump! No ride plate, loader, droop etc... He is running a 12-1 468 with some oval port heads (minor pocket porting etc, flat tappet cam, tunnel ram with 2 850's. He used my gps last weekend & it ran 80.6 in 100 degree weather! I was fuggin shocked! That would be a fast or quick river boat in my opinion... :) & yes it had a bow light! :D

[TIMINATOR]

F N FAST: did I misplace a comma, or did I not make myself clear? The boat runs 90+, and we run it all day on 48 gallons of gas, we usually cruise at about 35-40 MPH and I have never refueled at the lake. If we do Bartlett,we arrive at 8:00 and leave at about 1:00 (thats DAYTIME for you nit pickers),and usually don't even need to switch tanks. The boat is a 21 Daytona w/AA impeller and inducer and its EFFICIENT! Big Block Chevy built in my garage,(over 500")and it runs in the mid 50's/low 60's on the primarys(SINGLE CARB). Mike C. and Brian F. know the boat well, Hotfish and a few others have seen it from the outside. Come on out and play, it's a back yard-garage built motor with a stock pump in the stock position, and the bottom is stock too. Any more questions? TIMMINATOR :D :D :D :cool: :cool: :cool:

[TIMINATOR]

Anyone know if California GPS's are calibrated at the Dyno shops? Sorry,no offense, I couldn't help myself! I DID notice that the GPS and Stalker RADAR gun don't agree unless the speed is constant for a while, sometimes the GPS is lower, sometimes higher. Then it will agree after a while, the RADAR gun is continously right, I'm sure thats why ***boat uses a Stalker for speed tests. Just my opinion and I could be wrong, or not! TIMMINATOR argue argue argue

[F N Fast]

Hey Tim, I must have misunderstood your post. I'm sure that never happens.
Ok that's more like it. Kinda the same deal here with me. I've seen your boat on Pleasant, you've seen mine.
I agree with your statement on the GPS vs. radar, can't beat the gun for sure. If you go Sat, bring your radar, I'd be real curious as to what I'm really doing.

[Unchained]

The main variable in the GPS units is the update time.
Some hand held units only update once per second where a dash mounted Nordskog unit will update at 4 times per second or more depending on how you have it set.
Quite a variable for a drag boat but not a problem in a lake boat that could be held at top speed for several seconds.
When I raced last year on a 1000' course my gps said I went 101 mph but the time slip said I went 104.7 so I liked that better. :D

[MAXIMUS]

I tested 2 gps units over the weekend. Both were magellans, 1 was a gold (mine) & the other was a platinum! We suspected the platinum was not working correctly & bingo we were right. The up dates were lagging significantly! My gps shows no lag, but the platinum showed a second or 2 of lag. The end result was that if you didn't hold top speed on the platinum for an extra second or two then you would get about a 2.5 mph slower reading on the tatle tale! Other than that the real time speed was excatly the same. I believe that I would put more faith in a gps than a radar gun. Guns can & will give different readings when the beam is at different angles...

[djdtpr]

djdplacecraft, terd status and placecraft...no comprendo? Guess again on your mph.
:)
jer [/QB][/QUOTE]
ok your right 56 but it was a fast 56!

[BigBoyToys]

Wow.... Maybe a bit too much Testosterone in this thread :rolleyes: But what the hell, I'll play....er, my boat does 118mph with 2 full tanks of gas, 5 kids, 3 dogs, 6 ice chests, and Towing another boat in eek! :D :D
Just kidding folks. I just love these kind of threads....my boat will do...... LOL
Well, the question of how fast is fast for lake boats would have a logical answer. It would all depend on what the individual boat operator felt at the time, no matter what the speed is.
My boat will do 46 mph and that is fast enough for me :p :D :D