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Sleeper CP
10-26-2007, 04:42 PM
Well, since the season is over for 95% of us and any carnage that was going to happen probably all ready has let's play can you top this?
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/Lewtons302afterRevtestlores.jpg
If you can't top this with what you have, you may want to try taking out the Nitrous Jet and leaving the timing retard system off. Or keeping your foot in it for another 10 seconds when you first hear the knock / knock from the engine.
Have fun this weekend :D :D ;)
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

pw_Tony
10-26-2007, 04:44 PM
Is that a 302?

vee-driven
10-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Is that a 302?
Yea, 302 pieces!

Oldsquirt
10-26-2007, 05:13 PM
That's some pretty impressive carnage, but I'm kind of digging the Cammer behind it. :D

Bow Tie Omega
10-26-2007, 05:18 PM
Well, since the season is over for 95% of us and any carnage that was going to happen probably all ready has let's play can you top this?
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/Lewtons302afterRevtestlores.jpg
If you can't top this with what you have, you may want to try taking out the Nitrous Jet and leaving the timing retard system off. Or keeping your foot in it for another 10 seconds when you first hear the knock / knock from the engine.
Have fun this weekend :D :D ;)
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover
Holy Crap!!! Is the boat that was in still afloat:jawdrop:

VAMI
10-26-2007, 06:25 PM
I think you can line hone that and new rings and should be fine.

Sleeper CP
10-26-2007, 06:33 PM
Is that a 302?
Well it was. ;) It was in a friends drag car. I've had the picture for over a year was looking for something else and came acrossed it. I just thought I would share.
John buys the car from the guy and was told "it has Alumi rods, and a stock crank, but everything has been balanced and it has a stud girdle" It had a stought mech. roller Edlbrock Victor heads and some other good top end parts.
John lives in Montana and the closest drag strip to him is an 1/8th mile strip. So he changed the gears and went racing. It blew in the lights on the second pass at 8,600.:eek: Dumb ass.
That's some pretty impressive carnage, but I'm kind of digging the Cammer behind it. :D
I was wondering if any one would notice it. It's my friends it a 556" (4.5x4.375) Shelby Alumi. block engine. It's going in an all Alumi Cobra rep. car. The one's made in Poland:D John spoils himself.
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

pw_Tony
10-26-2007, 06:46 PM
Figured.... those 302 blocks are light.... but after 500hp they break right down the center;)

Sleeper CP
10-26-2007, 07:00 PM
Figured.... those 302 blocks are light.... but after 500hp they break right down the center;)
How many pieces do you think the crank broke into?
When John pulled the heads off only two pistons were in cylinders and they were in the wrong cylinders.
Sleeper CP

sleekcrafter
10-26-2007, 07:24 PM
Saw a picture of an Olds Drag car motor, with all the main bearing webbing torn out of it.

RCB19
10-26-2007, 07:33 PM
I think I'm going to change my avatar to that picture. Total yardsale LOL!!!

Sleeper CP
10-26-2007, 08:01 PM
I think I'm going to change my avatar to that picture. Total yardsale LOL!!!
That's not a bad idea.:idea:
It would hurt me to much to look at it.
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

RCB19
10-26-2007, 08:14 PM
I bet some burnout motorhead in high school art class could turn that in for an A+ and say "Awww it was no big deal it only took a few seconds". LOL!

Squirtin Thunder
10-26-2007, 09:04 PM
No I can't but I can get close after the Parker 300.
I will post more info later as I am beat-up, and I only made it 85 miles or so. I stole the video off ***boat. The boat was in my opinion very close to perfect, but to keep up out there I was spinning 5300-5500rpms and the engine could not hang. After a full season, 21 heat races. I am very happy with the performance during the race, my best lap was 3.14, 85.36mph on a 4.6mile course, thanks for everones help.
Tony, Ray, Art, Donna, Dave, Amanda you guys are the best, Thank you !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0D2ad8Zwbs
460 block
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Oil pan
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pw_Tony
10-26-2007, 09:10 PM
No I can't but I can get close after the Parker 300, I will post up the video soon.
460 block
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D0VE-A Head
View My Video (http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=swtog7&s=2)
Oil pan
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:jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop:
Wtf? That is some carnege right there! Give me a call focker :D

steelcomp
10-26-2007, 09:30 PM
Pretty fokin cool. :D
I don't have pics, but I do have a piston and what's left of the rod attached to it. 1995 World Finals, Pomona, TF Dragster, (car I was workig on) went to the line, did a burn out, backed up, staged, left hard, went about 3/4 track and big ol' kaboom! Got it back to the pits and noticed this black goo coming out of what was left of the oil pan. WTF??? Looked over to the other side of the pit...the 5 gal jug of motor oil still sitting there...full. :rolleyes:
The piston and piece of rod I have are about the biggest part of what was left.:)
I tried to blow up the 390 in my '66 Galexy...put a big rock on the gas pedal and started it, had about 1/8 tank of gas, and let it go! Sat there in neutral at about 5500rpm snortin and poppin and finally ran outa gas! Got so hot the oil and shit on the top of the intake was bubbling. Drove it another year, and I don't think I even changed the oil. :D

pw_Tony
10-26-2007, 09:30 PM
What is your phone broke ?:idea:
Not this time ;)
Gimme a call tomorrow maybe I'll just come by.
Were you the suspicious '72 Ford Truck?
Ok thread jacking over lol

058
10-26-2007, 10:23 PM
Stock 302 blocks are good to about 600 HP then, under these circumstances, they split in half....I'd say thats not bad for a production piece that was made for going to the grocery store and commuting to and from work.:D

pw_Tony
10-27-2007, 01:35 AM
Stock 302 blocks are good to about 600 HP then, under these circumstances, they split in half....I'd say thats not bad for a production piece that was made for going to the grocery store and commuting to and from work.:D
600hp yea right...

rivrrts429
10-27-2007, 06:31 AM
:cry: :cry: :cry:
It makes me queezy (sp.) just looking at. I hope in a million years I dont experience that kind of carnage.

gbelt
10-27-2007, 09:33 AM
Looks like he has a nice SOHC engine waiting to take it's place.

Sleeper CP
10-27-2007, 03:48 PM
Looks like he has a nice SOHC engine waiting to take it's place.
Read post number 7(re-cammer)
I'll post a couple of shot's of the replacement engine. Wow. It's pretty impressive, but it's not a cammer.
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

BOOGEYMAN
10-27-2007, 04:40 PM
600hp yea right...
I run a stock 130,000 mile long block in my mustang with a weiand single plane and a blow through 650 holley. A single T70 turbo intercooled on 12lbs and pump gas makes 500 at the TIRES and has been for over 2 years!!! The car runs 10.80's at that power level and drives around town like a stock one!
Go to www.theturboforums.com and look around, guys running stock short blocks to the 9.80 range in the 1/4 mile making 600 at the tires.
''IF YOU DONT DETONATE THEM THEY LIVE FOR A LONG TIME!!''
Travis.

widowmaker
10-27-2007, 05:33 PM
its a ford....

Sleeper CP
10-28-2007, 07:51 AM
. WTF??? Looked over to the other side of the pit...the 5 gal jug of motor oil still sitting there...full. :rolleyes:
And who's job was that?:idea:
Did you guy's then make a check list to follow:idea: ?
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

stoker2001
10-28-2007, 08:58 AM
Go to www.theturboforums.com and look around, guys running stock short blocks to the 9.80 range in the 1/4 mile making 600 at the tires.
''IF YOU DONT DETONATE THEM THEY LIVE FOR A LONG TIME!!''
Travis.
Good points,the key is good machine work and parts
the early 1970 302blocks (non roller hyd cam) are somewhat stouter,but 600 to the tires is a stretch with these short 8.2 deck featherwieghts
the taller 9.5" deck 351SBF windsor is hella stouter and could handle 600hp with ease
I like the 302s stroked to 347 in the 65 shelby clone as the extra wieght of the 351s hurt the handling in the corners.
I am building one now ussing early Mex/HIPO block that has the 1" thick maincaps
I will modernize it with custom billet hyd roller cam and Comps new linkbar lifters
with canfield 195cc alum heads and victor jr intake it will idle at 750rpm with excellant street manners and make 500 flywheel ponys on sour pump gas:sqeyes:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/1052phoenix06_004.jpg

BOOGEYMAN
10-28-2007, 10:15 AM
Very nice ride man, I love that car!!!
I always tell people its all in the tune! My buddy recently just retired his small block twin turbo chevy from his firebird. It was a stock 2 bolt main 350, cast pistons, cast crank and stock rods. A set of junk cast iron heads of a truck with some very mild clean up in the port area. It made 800 to the tires, drove around 5k a year on the street and has been going strong for 3 years~!~!
He took it out to build a different one a gave it to a buddy to thrash on. He did it just to make a point that it you dont rattle them they will live a long time, to a certin point. He had a total of around $400 in the complete long block! The complete story and build up with pics and video is on www.theturboforums.com in the message forums under (ls1,lt1,sbc and other gm turbo tech) the thread is called "how long till it grenades" :) It was also in last month car craft.
p.s. make sure to check out page 2 when he was "washing" the new race engine.....lol.
Take it easy
Travis

IMPATIENT 1
10-28-2007, 11:17 AM
I think you can line hone that and new rings and should be fine.
lmao:D

stoker2001
10-28-2007, 12:31 PM
Very nice ride man, I love that car!!!
I always tell people its all in the tune! My buddy recently just retired his small block twin turbo chevy from his firebird. It was a stock 2 bolt main 350, cast pistons, cast crank and stock rods. A set of junk cast iron heads of a truck with some very mild clean up in the port area. It made 800 to the tires, drove around 5k a year on the street and has been going strong for 3 years~!~!
He took it out to build a different one a gave it to a buddy to thrash on. He did it just to make a point that it you dont rattle them they will live a long time, to a certin point. He had a total of around $400 in the complete long block! The complete story and build up with pics and video is on www.theturboforums.com in the message forums under (ls1,lt1,sbc and other gm turbo tech) the thread is called "how long till it grenades" :) It was also in last month car craft.
p.s. make sure to check out page 2 when he was "washing" the new race engine.....lol.
Take it easy
Travis
Thanks for the kind words,that is a amazing story:sqeyes:
Turbos are phenominal these days,just boogles the mind that people get away with this stuff!!!!!!!!!

Sleeper CP
10-29-2007, 07:14 AM
Looks like he has a nice SOHC engine waiting to take it's place.
Here's the replacement engine:
TT-427 SmBlk Blow-Thru w/ Alcohol:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/lewtonsTurboexwork1_00.jpg
Oh, 1,800-2,100 HP:devil:
Sleeper CP

BOOGEYMAN
10-29-2007, 12:25 PM
Is that a C&S carb from Roger? Looks like it could be a Morris piece as well. Pair of 88's? Need more info dude........:D
Ken tupper runs a schmidt built 420 inch small ford on alcohol with a pair of 88's and it makes 2300 on full tilt!
Travis

Sleeper CP
10-29-2007, 02:48 PM
Travis:
Yes it is a C&S carb from Roger. I have a C&S 1050 Dominator Aerosol that I put on the boat engine and I have a 900CFM 4150 Aerosol from them, so I am familiar with there carbs, but I don't know anything about the electronic carb. Do you know anything about them, what does the electronics regulate?
My friend had the car on a chassis dyno on Sunday morning 2 am. They worked on the car from 3 pm Saturday. Once they were ready to run they couldn't get the damn thing to take a load above 2,750 rpm's. They think the system was way over rich. He is going to run the car this weekend, he said he'll do the tuning at the track.
I think they are 88's. I should have some more info by the end of the week.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/lewtonsTurboexwork.jpg
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

BOOGEYMAN
10-29-2007, 06:35 PM
The sloenoids on the carb will introduce more fuel into the carb through the metering block when the needle and seat cant keep up with the volume, some need it some dont. If it wont clean up past 2750 I bet it is just way to over fueled or under timed, thats not even enough rpm to push the turbos past the thresh hold.
Keep me updated on this project man!!
Travis

stoker2001
10-29-2007, 08:16 PM
Here's the replacement engine:
TT-427 SmBlk Blow-Thru w/ Alcohol:
Oh, 1,800-2,100 HP:devil:
Sleeper CP
I hear Dennis (laketrash) is doing one of these exact combos in a 400lb 16' texas tunnel to play with the local BB Vdrive guys
dennis does everything first class
Cant wait to see it run

Sleeper CP
10-29-2007, 09:31 PM
I hear Dennis (laketrash) is doing one of these exact combos in a 400lb 16' texas tunnel to play with the local BB Vdrive guysdennis does everything first class
Cant wait to see it run
Wow, that should be one quick piece. And a hell of a ride :)
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

bead
10-29-2007, 10:19 PM
Travis:
Yes it is a C&S carb from Roger. I have a C&S 1050 Dominator Aerosol that I put on the boat engine and I have a 900CFM 4150 Aerosol from them, so I am familiar with there carbs, but I don't know anything about the electronic carb. Do you know anything about them, what does the electronics regulate?
My friend had the car on a chassis dyno on Sunday morning 2 am. They worked on the car from 3 pm Saturday. Once they were ready to run they couldn't get the damn thing to take a load above 2,750 rpm's. They think the system was way over rich. He is going to run the car this weekend, he said he'll do the tuning at the track.
I think they are 88's. I should have some more info by the end of the week.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/lewtonsTurboexwork.jpgis that a 63 falcon?
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Loversweet

Sleeper CP
11-08-2007, 06:30 PM
[QUOTE=bead;2867002]sweet[/QUOTE
The question was is that a '63 Falcon?
No it's a '64 I believe:
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/Lewtons64Falcon.jpg
I knew I had a picture of it somewhere:)
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover

Sleeper CP
12-04-2007, 05:54 PM
Keep me updated on this project man!!Travis
Travis here are the last pictures I got of the project. They had problem after problem on the chassis dyno. Went to the track and burned a piston in less than 150 ft:mad: He said it was making 25 lbs. at 60 ft. The C&S carbs calibration was jacked up. Roger at C&S was no help to them on the phone with the tune-up.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/LewtonsTurboFalcon.jpg
and
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/LewtonsTurboFalcon1.jpg
Since the Falcon takes an entire crew to run it, he purchased this two weeks ago so he can go fast with out needing a crew. It has a 572" Ford N/A engine:http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa150/Sleepercp/7081233003374-RatPoison-63-12-Ford-.jpg
That's the old owner next to the car.
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover:D

Hass828
12-04-2007, 06:25 PM
If everyone still thinks that an msd will fire anything then why are these guys running a mag?

Sleeper CP
12-04-2007, 06:41 PM
If everyone still thinks that an msd will fire anything then why are these guys running a mag?
It's a MSD mag that I don't know much about. Not sure how it works
differently. It has to fire under 24+ psi and Methanol.
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover:D

Jet Hydro
12-05-2007, 08:28 PM
I don't know if I can top it just yet as the block is still in the car but this is what the safety crew brought back to me in the pits after I dropped it on the track.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/15497P1040252-med.JPG
They thought I might want it as I was testing my oldest girls drag car(( she`s just 16 )) before I let her try the new set-up.....rotflmao
It`s the Camaro in my Avatar ;)

396_WAYS_TO_SPIT
12-05-2007, 09:43 PM
its a ford....
Ahhhh damn, here we go again :eek: :eek: :p

Sleeper CP
12-06-2007, 08:21 AM
I don't know if I can top it just yet as the block is still in the car but this is what the safety crew brought back to me in the pits after I dropped it on the track.
http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/500/15497P1040252-med.JPG
They thought I might want it as I was testing my oldest girls drag car(( she`s just 16 )) before I let her try the new set-up.....rotflmao
It`s the Camaro in my Avatar ;)
Did the car stay off the gard rail ?
Sleeper CP
Big Inch Ford Lover:D

speedymopars
12-06-2007, 08:46 AM
If everyone still thinks that an msd will fire anything then why are these guys running a mag?
An MSD *will* fire quite a bit, just about everything if the setup is correct. BUT a mag generates its own Power . In cars without an alternator (like most race cars), the mag will be consistant down the track and run after run, while the MSD (or any non mag setup for that matter) will react to the decreased voltage in the battery causing a smaller spark the further down the track you go. It allows for a smaller (lighter) battery for starting too (it doesn't have the drain on it from the ignition); you don't need as many amp hours of run time.
A mag is nothing more than a distributor with a dedicated alternator attached.