DCB F-29; 496HOs or 525s?

[new2cats]

OK, First day..had some fun..need some real opinions (they are like a$$holes, I know).
In process of having F-29 built.....if $$$ is not the main concern (it is ALWAYS AN ISSUE).....considering reliability, performance, longevity, ego, etc. Should I pull the trigger on the 525s or go with the HOs.
Keep in mind, Mercury product & 87 octane is the only constant!!! Also, already bought the XR, ITS, Sp. Master drives....I am set on outdrive situation.
Thanks for indulging me with your knowledge, wit and humor!
I anxiously await your feverish inputs!!!!
PS-HB forums really are addicting.....

[Havasu Hangin']

Is a DCB even a "performance" boat? :idea:
A single 350mag might be more fitting.
:jawdrop:

[MR HARLEY]

neither. :idea:

[new2cats]

Thanks.....I have a 5HP Briggs waitin' for some fresh plugs..I'll use er.
I feel like I may have encountered my first hostile natives???
Are DCB buyers/Owners fair game here...if so...I can live with it!

[Havasu Hangin']

Are DCB buyers/Owners fair game here...if so...I can live with it!
Since you have to have a double-digit IQ to buy a DCB in the first place, it's usually like bringing a slingshot to a tank battle.
:jawdrop:

[MR HARLEY]

Are DCB buyers/Owners fair game here...!
Sometimes we are. :D

[new2cats]

Ouch......OK......I will trade my new F-29 for a new
Kach-eetah-mmander......that should halt the hate!

[Havasu Hangin']

Ouch......OK......I will trade my new F-29 for a new
Kach-eetah-mmander......that should halt the hate!
No, that just means that you wanted a higher-quality boat.
:jawdrop:

[shippingguy]

neither. :idea:
What would be your suggestion? A single Viper 625?:) :D

[MR HARLEY]

What would be your suggestion? A single Viper 625?:) :D
This is a DCB thread, Ultra boys need not apply, there too busy biting our styles. :eek: ;) :D
but
Since you asked my suggestion would be get the biggest you can afford, starting with some 700 mercs with the NXT drives and going from there.

[roln 20s]

you know my opinion - HOs or Merc 600s :D
Roln 20s

[new2cats]

One major glitch...wife made me promise 87 octane (Roln, you know how hard 91-92 is to find on Powell!) It was the only thing I swore I would do for her...everything else I hade Carte Blanche!
Why OH why did they make HOs so frickin' ugly...they look like a first generation GM- H2 motor! Boat Bling's cover help lots but still a fugly piece of equipment.......
Thanks for input ya'all.

[John.]

I've been looking at the F29 too with the 496ho's. Looks like a good setup to me. Nice and fast still with warrantied motors for multiple years. Upgrade the drives and you've got something great going for ya.

[shippingguy]

This is a DCB thread, Ultra boys need not apply, there too busy biting our styles. :eek: ;) :D
but
Since you asked my suggestion would be get the biggest you can afford, starting with some 700 mercs with the NXT drives and going from there.
Care to explain. News to me.:)

[MR HARLEY]

Care to explain. News to me.:)
Just look at the boat in your sig. ;) :D

[shippingguy]

Just look at the boat in your sig. ;) :D
Please show me one DCB that looks like my boat. I knocked off NOBODY's graphics. Now back to the topic at hand.:rolleyes:

[new2cats]

Wow, now I know how to hit the nerve.....peeps are passionate about their boat brand on here.....I have had Rayson craft, Sea Ray, Envision, Crownline, Sleekcraft, Howard (twice), Svfara (ski boat), etc....they all had their place.
My choice for DCB was purely personal..meaning I had a "success" goal and promised myself when I hit it a new DCB would be mine...also turned 40 and lots of my Family and friends were dying around me...figured life is too short.
When I first saw "Pegged" that gray, red & black f-29 3-4 years ago in Havi, I said......I will have one of those; my family and buds said...NO F-IN WAY....YOU HEARD HOW MUCH THEY COST.....well......
PS-Insurance is absolutely ridiculous on these; should have done some "due diligence" first.....may have gone back to a V with a small block!!!!

[shippingguy]

Wow, now I know how to hit the nerve.....peeps are passionate about their boat brand on here.....I have had Rayson craft, Sea Ray, Envision, Crownline, Sleekcraft, Howard (twice), Svfara (ski boat), etc....they all had their place.
My choice for DCB was purely personal..meaning I had a "success" goal and promised myself when I hit it a new DCB would be mine...also turned 40 and lots of my Family and friends were dying around me...figured life is too short.
When I first saw "Pegged" that gray, red & black f-29 3-4 years ago in Havi, I said......I will have one of those; my family and buds said...NO F-IN WAY....YOU HEARD HOW MUCH THEY COST.....well......
PS-Insurance is absolutely ridiculous on these; should have done some "due diligence" first.....may have gone back to a V with a small block!!!!
You made a great choice. I think they are a bit overpriced, but you do get quality. Let's face it boats in general are all overpriced nowadays. As long as you are happy that is all that matters. Do it right the first time though. I would go with Merc 600's as a starting point or Viper 625's and up from there if $$$ allows. You do not want to get out there and wish you had more power like MR HARLEY does now!!:D Just ask him 75 gets boring after a while:D

[MR HARLEY]

You do not want to get out there and wish you had more power like MR HARLEY does now!!:D Just ask him 75 gets boring after a while:D
Its actually 84mph and all this coming from an ULTRA owner with a whooping 175 more hp, I know its more hp and you may have 10mph on me, but in the end its still an ULTRA. ;) :D

[shippingguy]

Its actually 84mph and all this coming from an ULTRA owner with a whooping 175 more hp, I know its more hp and you may have 10mph on me, but in the end its still an ULTRA. ;) :D
Yeah your right you win my boat only runs 94 and it is ONLY an ULTRA:rolleyes: Someday I will step up and buy a big boy boat like yours when I can get a couple partners to buy it with, NOT:D
new2cats sorry for the thread jack. Good luck with your boat and keep us posted on your build.:)

[MR HARLEY]

Yeah your right you win my boat only runs 94 and it is ONLY an ULTRA:rolleyes: Someday I will step up and buy a big boy boat like yours when I can get a couple partners to buy it with, NOT:D
Partners? I got one partner, my brother. :rolleyes: :D

[DMOORE]

Here's my .02 $. If you are going to lay down the coin for an F29, don't go cheap and install 496's. At the minimum run some 525's. It would be just too embarrasing to be passed by something like..oh I dunno.. and old Advantage.:)
Darrell.

[new2cats]

Thanks guys......(stop bickering)....the 525s are on order....need to run 87 octane so most (Merc. 600s&700s, Ilmor, Teague, etc.) are out!
Dave (DCB) said we will likely see 115-120 with vac bag/kevlar/composite and faster with some stupid huge wheel spinnin'.
I think an 85 MPH cruise speed is killer.

[TPI]

Don't worry about the fuel at Powell. Antelope Point Marina sells 91 right on the water:D . ............From what I have seen(many times), A guy will order those 496's and be dying for more HP in less than a year, then he will spend some real coin to bump up the power to different motors/drives/gimbals. At least with the 525's, you have a motor with some kind of resale value and a great foundation to either Whipplecharge it or rebuild to a larger motor when you get bored with them(you will get bored with them:D ). They also come with a HP gimbal which the 496 does not. I personally think you made a good choice.

[TOBTEK]

Thanks guys......(stop bickering)....the 525s are on order....need to run 87 octane so most (Merc. 600s&700s, Ilmor, Teague, etc.) are out!
Dave (DCB) said we will likely see 115-120 with vac bag/kevlar/composite and faster with some stupid huge wheel spinnin'.
I think an 85 MPH cruise speed is killer.
JUST REMEMBER..... He is a SALESMAN! the 29 he had out ran 109 in the springtime. 120 is a pipe dream. All the bagging, blah, blah smoke and mirriors arent going to add that much. For the SAME money as those blue motors you can have some GT's, or equal built that will be more suited for that new 29! TRUE THAT.

[Bullhead Bully]

I have a light layup 28 Daytona with 496s and CMI headers in it .I have had 525 in another boat , they are both great motors my 28 runs a solid 104 to 106 any day of the year no matter the temp I still break a 100. So I think it comes down to how fast you need to go ,your budget , and the amount of hours you plan to run with or without warranty . Both motors can get a 5 year extended warranty to me that is very important I run alot of hours. So it is up to you ,If the extra money is not a problem go with the 525s and a warranty form Phoenix American. GOOD LUCK.:)

[Magic34]

Of the 2 choises. Merc 525 all the way. Leave them stock and enjoy your warranty.
In a 29' boat, 110 MPH is plenty fast and will run strong with the stock power.
I always go Merc power, resale is much better.

[Jordy]

I always go Merc power, resale is much better.
And that is very important with as often as you resell. :D :D :D

[Kilrtoy]

If you are gonna buy a DCB then buy the right power, Nothing under a merc 600 or viper 625. Isay go bigger.
If not buy another boat

[Jordy]

If you are gonna buy a DCB then buy the right power, Nothing under a merc 600 or viper 625. Isay go bigger.
If not buy another boat
What do you have for power again??? :idea: :jawdrop: :D

[Magic34]

And that is very important with as often as you resell. :D :D :D
It's true. :D
That is the main thing I keep constant in my buying and selling. When I sold my last 34' cat, there was that blue one in town with the 1000HP motors in it. Mine sold for $40k more. Blue motors helped with that. :) :D

[Magic34]

If you are gonna buy a DCB then buy the right power, Nothing under a merc 600 or viper 625. Isay go bigger.
If not buy another boat
You should try Lake Powell. Only 1 marina has the fuel for those and if you are all the way up at Bullfrog and heading South, you'll need gas and wont find 91 until you get back towards Page.

[mbrown2]

525's and call it done....500hp, EFI, natuarally aspirated and 87 are a great combo...110 day in, day out is more then enough..

[Kilrtoy]

What do you have for power again??? :idea: :jawdrop: :D
A better power to weight ratio than he is asking about

[Magic34]

A better power to weight ratio than he is asking about
Maybe if you had a little more weight in there, the boat would hook up and sit better in the water and keep it from feeling spun out. :D Next time, turn your lights on too. :D

[Kilrtoy]

Maybe if you had a little more weight in there, the boat would hook up and sit better in the water and keep it from feeling spun out. :D Next time, turn your lights on too. :D
630 HP running 108MPH
compared to
1000hp running 110MPH

[Magic34]

630 HP running 108MPH
compared to
1000hp running 110MPH
You still have the DCB? I thought you started your new business in Havasu?

[02HoWaRd26]

http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/style_emoticons/default/wife.gifWhoa guys watch for the swinging purses in this thread...http://www.glamisdunes.com/invision/style_emoticons/default/focus.gif If you can run 100 all day in style like that and Keep the resale with the blue motors, I would definately run the 525's...

[andy01]

How many hours are you really planning to run, really?
The 496's will use less fuel, if you are driving around at 60 mph holding your wifes purse all day and don't care about plane time then do 496's.
525's will need valve work before the 496's from what I have heard.
525's if you want to cruise around at 80 and be able to run over 100 on almost any day, if your wife will let you buy more fuel.
How long do you plan to own the boat, don't say 10 years. We buy new boats (DCB's) every season if we can sell our used ones.....
How much is the upgrade for YOU to the 525's? That will depend on the resale.
Blue if you might upgrade to Whipples later, if your wife will let you run more octane then 87.
Building a $250,000 boat and worring about 87 octane....... only on Hot Boat.
That boat will take all the hp you can throw at it, there has been a 29' open bow that ran 155 mph. Not saying it needs a lot of power, but the more power you can afford to buy/maintain the more fun the boat will be to drive.
Dave @ DCB has a good working relationship with Bob Teague and his motors. You might talk to him about a pair of 620 EFI motors. They might be close to 525's in price, Im not sure.
Keep us posted on what you decide.
Andy

[02HoWaRd26]

The added 200hp would be nice but if he is like most DCB buyer's and rebuyers doesn't that hurt the resale value. Hell then again it makes it better for the second hand consumers though...

[JryLineman]

Stay with the 525's . Don't fock up that beautiful engine compartment with HO's. You can also Whipple the motors cheaper then upgrading to Merc 600
Check the price list on Teagues and you'll choke!
Good Luck!

[ClownRoyal]

525s. Those engines are bullet-proof assuming you take care of them. Plus the resale aspect. People love Merc packages (the majority). You made the right choice. Don't listen to these people who have never 'owned' big horsepower telling you to get big horsepower. :D

[TOBTEK]

525s. Those engines are bullet-proof assuming you take care of them. Plus the resale aspect. People love Merc packages (the majority). You made the right choice. Don't listen to these people who have never 'owned' big horsepower telling you to get big horsepower. :D
and why didnt you get the 525's in your DCB?;)

[ClownRoyal]

and why didnt you get the 525's in your DCB?;)
Cause I asked the ***boat communitee if it was OK and they said no :D

[new2cats]

Great advise/opinions (thanks Gary T.)....staying with the 525s...may go to TPI and do whipples after stock warranty, who knows.

[TUNNEL T]

You made a great choice. I think they are a bit overpriced, but you do get quality. Let's face it boats in general are all overpriced nowadays. As long as you are happy that is all that matters. Do it right the first time though. I would go with Merc 600's as a starting point or Viper 625's and up from there if $$$ allows. You do not want to get out there and wish you had more power like MR HARLEY does now!!:D Just ask him 75 gets boring after a while:D
i agree with shipping guy ,long as you are happy with it thats all that matters ,no matter what the cost ! it's your money right !!!!!!!!! and yes your always going to want more power once you feel comfortable with your boat so yes go with the biggest most reliable package .you'll be happier in the long run .just my .02 TUNNEL T:D

[Frequent Flier]

496ho's are for Bayliners:D :D :D
You will be glad you went with the 525's...
They look a ton better and run faster!

[new2cats]

Thanks for updates and your continued interest in my "plight".....went with the 525s and they are likely istting at DCB now ready to rig/install!
I am planning to post pix of the graphic next week.

[tripledigit]

Sounds like you made a great choice! Looking forward to seeing the pix!

[ChumpChange]

I am planning to post pix of the graphic next week.
I thought you already did in your Tow Vehicle thread.

[new2cats]

I thought you already did in your Tow Vehicle thread.
Correct, that was the digital design graphic....I meant going to DCB this week to take real pix of the boat in rigging. First time to see her out of the mold...pretty damn excited!!!-:D

[Kilrtoy]

Building a $250,000 boat and worring about 87 octane....... only on Hot Boat.
And living in 1.5 million dollar house, you left that out....
I say merc 700's

[shueman]

....I say merc 700's
Good Call... :cool:

[ToMorrow44]

Check the price list on Teagues and you'll choke!
Last time I checked the Teague stuff is cheaper than any Merc Blue motor. Most of the time you can get a Teague 800efi with XR drive for the same price as upgrading to a 525 or 600. Unless DCB is jacking up the Teague prices...
BTW Teague offers the same 1yr warranty as Merc.
Of your 2 choices, I'd definitely agree go 525s with the possibility of Whipples later on.
-Tom

[new2cats]

Thanks to all for opinions.....first of all....the 87 octane issue was not about fuel prices (what a$$ could worry about them...$3.55 or $3.75..who gives a
f$%& at that price-point)!! We have had issues with premium availability on some lakes and octane boost will not do it!!!! Wife agreed to the big-$ boat if we could use 87 octane. Already have the 525s in route....found out that Ilmor can program the 625 and 710s to run on 87-89 octane no problemo.....next boat for sure!!!!
On a practical note; if the 525s can do 118-120 (light layup) and the Ilmors can do 130-140.....is it REALLY worth the dough ($40K-$50K plus upgrade)??? To some, YES, to others who work for the money (no inheritence) and pay cash for everything it is a big-fat NO!!!
:D

[new2cats]

Last time I checked the Teague stuff is cheaper than any Merc Blue motor. Most of the time you can get a Teague 800efi with XR drive for the same price as upgrading to a 525 or 600. Unless DCB is jacking up the Teague prices...
BTW Teague offers the same 1yr warranty as Merc.
Of your 2 choices, I'd definitely agree go 525s with the possibility of Whipples later on.
-Tom
PS-Yes a call to Gary at TPI for Whipples after warranty is in the future!

[Havasu1986]

Thanks to all for opinions.....first of all....the 87 octane issue was not about fuel prices (what a$$ could worry about them...$3.55 or $3.75..who gives a
f$%& at that price-point)!! We have had issues with premium availability on some lakes and octane boost will not do it!!!! Wife agreed to the big-$ boat if we could use 87 octane. Already have the 525s in route....found out that Ilmor can program the 625 and 710s to run on 87-89 octane no problemo.....next boat for sure!!!!
On a practical note; if the 525s can do 118-120 (light layup) and the Ilmors can do 130-140.....is it REALLY worth the dough ($40K-$50K plus upgrade)??? To some, YES, to others who work for the money (no inheritence) and pay cash for everything it is a big-fat NO!!!
:D
Those speeds to me are way to fast on any recreational type lake. :(

[new2cats]

Those speeds to me are way to fast on any recreational type lake. :(
Totally agree....that is why we will prop for all-around fun.....likely will want to tube, cruise and do some quickly throttle-smashin'..if we can cruise at 65-70 and do 90+ that is crazy fast for most folks and the Family (Wife & Kids) have no business in the boat at top speeds....I am really surprised when I see a cat doing 100+ in Havi with kids on board and cheap-a$$ West Marine vests.....do owners really know what happens at 100 when you hit the water??? There is a physics lesson to be learned and a percentages game with regard to lethal accidents.....remember in driver's ed when they said (this is a loose memory quote) "at 50 mph there is a 30% chance of death in an accident, at 60mph, 50%, at 70mph, 70%, at 80mph 85% and at 100mph, 90+% chance of not going home!!!" Not sure of the figures but you get the idea...sure the same applies to water!!!
Just my rant for the day!!

[Reaper1]

Those speeds to me are way to fast on any recreational type lake. :(
America was built on speed...............Hot, Nasty, Bad Ass speed.

[Kilrtoy]

America was built on speed...............Hot, Nasty, Bad Ass speed.
Slingshot ENGAGED:D

[mbrown2]

America was built on speed...............Hot, Nasty, Bad Ass speed.
I like to think of Jesus as a mischievious badger..:)

[DrewDown]

Last time I checked the Teague stuff is cheaper than any Merc Blue motor. Most of the time you can get a Teague 800efi with XR drive for the same price as upgrading to a 525 or 600. Unless DCB is jacking up the Teague prices...
BTW Teague offers the same 1yr warranty as Merc.
Of your 2 choices, I'd definitely agree go 525s with the possibility of Whipples later on.
-Tom
You'll have a much better chance of using the teague warranty. If you can keep the blower belts on.

[ClownRoyal]

Thanks to all for opinions.....first of all....the 87 octane issue was not about fuel prices (what a$$ could worry about them...$3.55 or $3.75..who gives a
f$%& at that price-point)!! We have had issues with premium availability on some lakes and octane boost will not do it!!!! Wife agreed to the big-$ boat if we could use 87 octane. Already have the 525s in route....found out that Ilmor can program the 625 and 710s to run on 87-89 octane no problemo.....next boat for sure!!!!
On a practical note; if the 525s can do 118-120 (light layup) and the Ilmors can do 130-140.....is it REALLY worth the dough ($40K-$50K plus upgrade)??? To some, YES, to others who work for the money (no inheritence) and pay cash for everything it is a big-fat NO!!!
:D
No way in hell unless you Whipple them. If they are Ilmore 710s.

[XFactor]

On a practical note; if the 525s can do 118-120 (light layup) and the Ilmors can do 130-140.....is it REALLY worth the dough
:D
The boat looks great! Colors are awesome.
Do you believe it's practical to spend 250k on a boat period? Have you ever ridden in a 29 with 710's or 800's? Have you ever been in a 29 at 100 mph and at 130+ mph? Have you ever dealt with Mercury on a warranty issue? Mercury sucks compared to Ilmor and Teague on warranty issues. 100mph in a 29 is cruising speed. 130+ mph in a 29 is a rush. Why are so many guys building 32's with 1100's? It's because the 32 is cruising at 115-120 and a rush at 140-150+. It's all in what you want. I truly don't believe there's anything practical about these boats. Just my .02. :)

[Frequent Flier]

No way in hell unless you Whipple them. If they are Ilmore 710s.
You don't think a 29DCB will run over 130mph with the ILMORS????
My 28 Daytona has run 133mph with 625's....

[ClownRoyal]

You don't think a 29DCB will run over 130mph with the ILMORS????
My 28 Daytona has run 133mph with 625's....
I really don't think so but I could be wrong. To give you an idea of where I am coming from ... Powerboat tested an F29 with 710s and top speed was 141. That was with professional drivers and setup specifically for top-end numbers.

[new2cats]

The boat looks great! Colors are awesome.
Do you believe it's practical to spend 250k on a boat period? Have you ever ridden in a 29 with 710's or 800's? Have you ever been in a 29 at 100 mph and at 130+ mph? Have you ever dealt with Mercury on a warranty issue? Mercury sucks compared to Ilmor and Teague on warranty issues. 100mph in a 29 is cruising speed. 130+ mph in a 29 is a rush. Why are so many guys building 32's with 1100's? It's because the 32 is cruising at 115-120 and a rush at 140-150+. It's all in what you want. I truly don't believe there's anything practical about these boats. Just my .02. :)
You are right...I am backpedaling at 130MPH right now!!! The truth is that I could not get the Wife to approve the cost upgrade......I ADMIT IT..I WANNA GO 140..I DO, I DO, I DO, I DO.........:( (Need a smiley face with tears....can anyone build me one??)

[Patyacht]

You don't think a 29DCB will run over 130mph with the ILMORS????
My 28 Daytona has run 133mph with 625's....
No way Jose.... :) :) All power boat tests show 120 -122 for standard layup 28' Eliminator's and 29' DCB's with Illmore 625's unless you've got a super light - special layup like they did for that one special boat. You must have been running down river, down hill on an outbound flood.... :) :) :D Keep them throttles forward Chris.

[Patyacht]

As an F-29 owner with 525's my opinion is in red. :) :)
The boat looks great! Colors are awesome.
Do you believe it's practical to spend 250k on a boat period? Depends on your pocket size. Have you ever ridden in a 29 with 710's or 800's? No. Have you ever been in a 29 at 100 mph and at 130+ mph? 100mph yes :) 130mph Don't want to. Have you ever dealt with Mercury on a warranty issue? Yes, and the outcome depends on the shop mechanic and his ability to support you. Mercury sucks compared to Ilmor and Teague on warranty issues. 100mph in a 29 is cruising speed. True 130+ mph in a 29 is a rush. Scarey Why are so many guys building 32's with 1100's? It's because the 32 is cruising at 115-120 and a rush at 140-150+. It's all in what you want. I truly don't believe there's anything practical about these boats. Just my .02. :)

[ToMorrow44]

You'll have a much better chance of using the teague warranty. If you can keep the blower belts on.
The only thing I've had to do with my motor is fix a small timing issue. Recently they had a problem with the Whipple Blowers that caused several motors to fail, but that's not their fault and they're building brand new motors for those customers. I'm not quite sure what you're referring to as far as the blower belts, but I've never had a problem with mine.
-Tom

[shippingguy]

You'll have a much better chance of using the teague warranty. If you can keep the blower belts on.
On the older setups they hada problem with the belts coming off, but now they use a new style pulley and there have been no issues.

[Kilrtoy]

You are right...I am backpedaling at 130MPH right now!!! The truth is that I could not get the Wife to approve the cost upgrade......I ADMIT IT..I WANNA GO 140..I DO, I DO, I DO, I DO.........:( (Need a smiley face with tears....can anyone build me one??)
Tell your wife to talk to my wife, because she laughed when she heard you were doing 525's......
She said vipers, big merc or teagues

[Brewzed]

I'm suprised DCB even offers a 496 package. That's like buying a vette with a V6.

[Frequent Flier]

No way Jose.... :) :) All power boat tests show 120 -122 for standard layup 28' Eliminator's and 29' DCB's with Illmore 625's unless you've got a super light - special layup like they did for that one special boat. You must have been running down river, down hill on an outbound flood.... :) :) :D Keep them throttles forward Chris.
I was heading down river with 1/2 tanks of fuel 65 degrees and three people in the boat.... One a proud DCB owner!!! 133mph against the rev limiter on the port motor:eek:
I think if you call Rick and ask him how fast I was goin at Shasta he might remind you that some are faster than others:D :D :D
Hope all is well Pat. Lookin forward to boating together again soon!

[XFactor]

I really don't think so but I could be wrong. To give you an idea of where I am coming from ... Powerboat tested an F29 with 710s and top speed was 141. That was with professional drivers and setup specifically for top-end numbers.
I thought I heard someone say an F29 went 129 with 625's. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought I heard that a couple times. I think it was Anthony Wrights boat.
I also heard that F29 that was tested for Powerboat did 135 in the middle of the summer (112 degrees) with 3 people and 1/2 tank of gas. That was set up with the 1:35 drives (low end and mid range set-up) and a non-professional driver. ;) I think the motors loosen up after they get about 20 hrs on them. :) Of course that is just what I've heard. :D ;) :D

[Frequent Flier]

Only pic I could find of my speedo last year... Sorry I believe this one only says 129mph:idea: :idea: :idea:
Still better than Hot Boat tests and no my boat is not a light layup...

[Frequent Flier]

http://***boat.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=44704&d=1197055984

[Patyacht]

I was heading down river with 1/2 tanks of fuel 65 degrees and three people in the boat.... One a proud DCB owner!!! 133mph against the rev limiter on the port motor:eek:
I think if you call Rick and ask him how fast I was goin at Shasta he might remind you that some are faster than others:D :D :D
Hope all is well Pat. Lookin forward to boating together again soon!
I wasn't going to say anything about Rick's boat but since you mentioned it.
His is a much slower boat. That boat was originally fitted with 350's, yes I said 350's and someone on the board "BREWZED" was surprized with the 496 base boat from DCB. I guess the 350 28' Eliminator would be like a Vette with a 4 banger. Back to your boat, It's beautiful and one of the fastest I've seen with 625's but I'll have to see the radar report to believe 133. :) :)

[Frequent Flier]

I wasn't going to say anything about Rick's boat but since you mentioned it.
His is a much slower boat. That boat was originally fitted with 350's, yes I said 350's and someone on the board "BREWZED" was surprized with the 496 base boat from DCB. I guess the 350 28' Eliminator would be like a Vette with a 4 banger. Back to your boat, It's beautiful and one of the fastest I've seen with 625's but I'll have to see the radar report to believe 133. :) :)
Isn't RADAR usually faster than our GPS Speedo's?!?!!?:D :D :D

[Havasu1986]

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[Patyacht]

Isn't RADAR usually faster than our GPS Speedo's?!?!!?:D :D :D
Don't think so. In court cases, courts have ruled in favor of radar. Gps has a 30 sec lag and can have errors based on lots of different environmental factors. They did a test on GPS using a bicycle and as speed increases so did the error factor. At 10, 15, and 25mph error factor went from .1 to .6 to 1
But back on subject, new2cats will luv his boat with 525's and super light layup. But with time and any boat/power you'll want more with more seat time. Anyone got any 600's?? :) :) :)

[XFactor]

But back on subject, new2cats will luv his boat with 525's and super light layup. But with time and any boat/power you'll want more with more seat time. Anyone got any 600's?? :) :) :)
Just sell your boat and buy one with 710's. I think I know someone that will sell their 07 w/710's. ;) :D

[JryLineman]

Tell your wife to talk to my wife, because she laughed when she heard you were doing 525's......
She said vipers, big merc or teagues
First and foremost go tell your wife to pound sand! You should know better then to be posting your old lady's opinions on these forums! Who cares!:jawdrop: . Theres nothing wrong with the 525 package. There too small? That's like saying your boat is too small for Havi. I have the same setup on a 32 and cant be any happier, planes in 5 seconds and 110. I bought the boat as a semi-fast family boat ( basically what they are) not to go win the shootout!
This guy is happier then shit he's getting a DCB that most people couldn't afford ,and all you can do is give your biased opinion on it? I think you need to remove LINE FORMS HERE and leave the word HATER!:idea:

[new2cats]

First and foremost go tell your wife to pound sand! You should know better then to be posting your old lady's opinions on these forums! Who cares!:jawdrop: . Theres nothing wrong with the 525 package. There too small? That's like saying your boat is too small for Havi. I have the same setup on a 32 and cant be any happier, planes in 5 seconds and 110. I bought the boat as a semi-fast family boat ( basically what they are) not to go win the shootout!
This guy is happier then shit he's getting a DCB that most people couldn't afford ,and all you can do is give your biased opinion on it? I think you need to remove LINE FORMS HERE and leave the word HATER!:idea:
Dude..you rock....my sentiment exactly..since when should anybody be made ashamed that they can ONLY get Merc. racing 525s in a twin, kevlar, composite DCB cat????? Some of us are just real working folk that had some great years.....If I am not mistaken, is this KILTROY guy a cop???? How the F is a cop affording this sh*t anyway??? I know equity lines are great and inheritance is even better but some of us just work, make $$$$ and buy our toys within our means.;)
PS-Maybe he is a narcotics detective....there is always a little sumpin-sumpin on the side for them:devil: :D

[Frequent Flier]

Your gonna love the boat with 525's!!!
And if you want more you can supercharge them at a later date...
Great lookin boat by the way:D :D :D

[ClownRoyal]

An F29 w/525s no matter what layup is an awesome package. PERIOD! You will love the boat. 110 all day long no matter load and conditions. PERIOD! When you going to get her wet? :eek:

[new2cats]

Your gonna love the boat with 525's!!!
And if you want more you can supercharge them at a later date...
Great lookin boat by the way:D :D :D
Thanks..that is what I think! Gary at TPI is a great guy to Whipple-me later!!

[new2cats]

An F29 w/525s no matter what layup is an awesome package. PERIOD! You will love the boat. 110 all day long no matter load and conditions. PERIOD! When you going to get her wet? :eek:
Thanks...sounds bitchin'!!!! Dave said it should be done for the LA show....first trip in February (Havi)...I will start a thread on it to try and meet some of the HB-forum community then.
:)

[Havasu1986]

Thanks...sounds bitchin'!!!! Dave said it should be done for the LA show....first trip in February (Havi)...I will start a thread on it to try and meet some of the HB-forum community then.
:)
I hope your getting alot of free stuff if DCB is using your boat in the L.A. Show. My boat was in the 98' show. Eliminator gave me 5k in extras. We went the 1st day and it made my wife sick that people were leaning up against it with their watches on and sitting in the boat. We had to leave, our brand new boat being treated like that. I talked to the salesmen when we picked up the boat and I asked him how the show went using our boat, and he said that they sold a bunch just like it. Turns out he meant sold a bunch exactly like it. I see my twins all the time in Havasu. :mad: It maybe different now. but the "My boat was in the L.A. Boat Show" isn't that great. :( XFactor was in last years and may have a different opinion. :)

[new2cats]

I hope your getting alot of free stuff if DCB is using your boat in the L.A. Show. My boat was in the 98' show. Eliminator gave me 5k in extras. We went the 1st day and it made my wife sick that people were leaning up against it with their watches on and sitting in the boat. We had to leave, our brand new boat being treated like that. I talked to the salesmen when we picked up the boat and I asked him how the show went using our boat, and he said that they sold a bunch just like it. Turns out he meant sold a bunch exactly like it. I see my twins all the time in Havasu. :mad: It maybe different now. but the "My boat was in the L.A. Boat Show" isn't that great. :( XFactor was in last years and may have a different opinion. :)
You are correct.....both my Howards were at the LA shows (2004/2005).....I just expect a complete buff when she comes home....I got a very respectable price on the boat so I feel compensated if they do use it.

[cam-shaft]

I wasn't going to say anything about Rick's boat but since you mentioned it.
His is a much slower boat. That boat was originally fitted with 350's, yes I said 350's and someone on the board "BREWZED" was surprized with the 496 base boat from DCB. I guess the 350 28' Eliminator would be like a Vette with a 4 banger. Back to your boat, It's beautiful and one of the fastest I've seen with 625's but I'll have to see the radar report to believe 133. :) :)
Why would someone set up an eliminator 28 with 350's originally, just curious? That boat probably did not have boxes on it if it had 350's in it no wonder it does not run very strong with the same power as frequent flyer.
Thanks, Cam-shaft.

[rock hard]

Pat and cam, You guys both know why the boat was set up with 350's. It was 100k cheeper then 525's. The 350 packages were then pulled out and replaced with ilmor's. The same holes cut for the drives! The only difference between ricks boat and chris's boat is the boxes. Chris's boat was also ordered with 350's and changed. But you guys probably already knew that! The fact is both of them got great deals and run their boats wfo @ 125-133mph.

[Kilrtoy]

First and foremost go tell your wife to pound sand! You should know better then to be posting your old lady's opinions on these forums! Who cares!:jawdrop: :
Should I smack her around while I am at it:jawdrop:

[Kilrtoy]

You are right...I am backpedaling at 130MPH right now!!! The truth is that I could not get the Wife to approve the cost upgrade......I ADMIT IT..I WANNA GO 140..I DO, I DO, I DO, I DO.........:( (Need a smiley face with tears....can anyone build me one??)
So the wife wont let you, BUT
Wife has the CLS550 with AMG sport package....fast and handles like a new sports car. .
The wife gets whatever she wants... get back in the kitchen and cook her some damn lunch already
PS-Yes a call to Gary at TPI for Whipples after warranty is in the future!
Oh but you can do it later and it wont cost a dime?????
Totally agree....that is why we will prop for all-around fun.....likely will want to tube, cruise and do some quickly throttle-smashin'..if we can cruise at 65-70 and do 90+ that is crazy fast for most folks and the Family (Wife & Kids) have no business in the boat at top speeds....!!
Your kidding right, that is like buying a top fuel dragster so you can cruise the blvd at night...
You are seriously confused

[Kilrtoy]

Dude..you rock....my sentiment exactly..since when should anybody be made ashamed that they can ONLY get Merc. racing 525s in a twin, kevlar, composite DCB cat?????
can you brag anymore
Some of us are just real working folk that had some great years.....If I am not mistaken, is this KILTROY guy a cop???? How the F is a cop affording this sh*t anyway???
What is this of your concern
I know equity lines are great and inheritance is even better but some of us just work, make $$$$ and buy our toys within our means.;)
PS-Maybe he is a narcotics detective....there is always a little sumpin-sumpin on the side for them:devil: :D
Oh that is cute, get back to bragging about how bitchen you are and all the crap you have.
better check with the wife first and see if it is ok....

[new2cats]

can you brag anymore
What is this of your concern
Oh that is cute, get back to bragging about how bitchen you are and all the crap you have.
better check with the wife first and see if it is ok....
OUCH, hit a nerve....I thought all this forum stuff is supposed to be fun......I am sure all the crap-talk gets straightened out over beverages at the Naked Turtle come summer.....:)
PS-Yes, maybe I am confused about what I WANT to do VS. what I can ACTUALLY do with my new rig; but that is the fun part about toys....keep the clarity for work & Family:rolleyes:

[new2cats]

So the wife wont let you, BUT
The wife gets whatever she wants... get back in the kitchen and cook her some damn lunch already
JUST MADE HER TURKEY AND MASHED POTATOES..IT WAS MMMMMM GOOD!;)
Oh but you can do it later and it wont cost a dime?????
HMMMMM???
Your kidding right, that is like buying a top fuel dragster so you can cruise the blvd at night...
GREAT ANALOGY:idea:
You are seriously confused
YES, YES I AM:D
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?????:confused: