can you help id this ford?

[wet77]

I am pretty sure that the motor I have is a 460 ford but I am unsure what year or what type of heads...
Head numbers on side are D3VE-A2A
Motor number on front of block (distributor side) are 2M15M
On back of motor are 37561380
On side of motor are DIVE-A2B
The motor was setup in the seventies by Guardian Marine Anaheim California
any help would be great!
Thanks Guys!

[Blown 472]

wet77:
I am pretty sure that the motor I have is a 460 ford but I am unsure what year or what type of heads...
Head numbers on side are D3VE-A2A
Motor number on front of block (distributor side) are 2M15M
On back of motor are 37561380
On side of motor are DIVE-A2B
The motor was setup in the seventies by Guardian Marine Anaheim California
any help would be great!
Thanks Guys! The heads are 97 cc 1973 castings, the block is a 1971 casting that might be the lower deck version.
Where in wisconsin are you?

[HOSS]

Mine was from Guardian as well. Have original Guardian hardware.

[wet77]

Located in (central) Stevens Point

[wet77]

Boat is a 77 model maybe the motor was switched?
Are those heads ok,,,,,,,,what about block?

[taylorss]

IT MAY BE A 429 IT IS OUT OF A LINCOLN PRODUCTION LINE. I WORK AT A FORD DEALER IN PARTS.

[wet77]

reason I think its a 460 is when I had the heads off to get machined I noticed there were trw forged pistons and when I crossed the #'s with a catalog it came back as .030 over 460 ford
someone elso told me he thought I might have 429 heads though???

[Hallett19]

ask 058, mister 460 or 77chager, they got it all figured out, they will tell you.

[77charger]

i have a d1ve block and mine was 429 out of a lincoln(yes they are very good blocks too).But it is the same block as a 460 also(429/460 use the same block,rods,heads,bearings.)You have to measure the stroke to see if it is a 429 or 460 3.59 for the 420 and 3.74? (or very very close)for the 460.The heads are definitely open chamber type there are basicaly two types 68-72 and 73 and on and of course the cobra jet heads which are also closed chamber but better ports.An easy way to tell the earlier heads is if they have screw in type studs.

[Blown 472]

wet77:
Boat is a 77 model maybe the motor was switched?
Are those heads ok,,,,,,,,what about block? Point huh, I live in weyauwega.
The heads are ok, they dont flow as well on the exhaust side due to ford moving the chamber up in the head by .100 thus the reason the valves are .100 shorter than say dove's. You can port them and make them flow ok, I have set on my blown 472, saving my pennies for a set of blue thunders. Are you rebuilding the motor?? I have used d3s on a 9 to 1 429 and they worked pretty good. If you can round up a set of d8,d9, or d0's then it will up your comp to about 10 to 1 with the piston you have in it right now.

[wet77]

Not rebuilding just wondering whats the story on the ford I am not to good with id'ing fords, I am a chevy man at heart but this is what came in the boat so untill I kill it its going to have to work for now!
Thanks for the advice and tips

[Blown 472]

You should bring it out on the wolf river this summer, we hang out in front of teds grandview on the sandbar.

[wet77]

sounds like a plan! I mostley rip up the river in stevens point, the chain o lakes in waupacau, and up north near three lakes!
I have the boat completely tore apart right now I am redoing the seats and carpeting what a pain in the a$$! I have come across something that works great for frost plugs I use a fix it type plug that uses a rubber plug and metal plate with a nut to tighten it they work great and in the spring or fall all you do is pop them out and clean all the sand and crap out of the holes!

[LakesOnly]

wet77:
Head numbers on side are D3VE-A2A
On side of motor are DIVE-A2B
I have the same block and heads. The heads are 93cc combustion chamber heads, not the 76cc D0VE heads. The D3VE heads that you have are actually nice heads too and can be set up nicely.
The block you have is a good block. It was used for both 429's and 460's. Bores are the same, stroke is different. 460 stroke is 3.85".
LO

[mister460]

If it had 460 pistons in it then it's definitely a 460. The pistons are different between the two. D3's are ok but like was said earlier C8, C9, or D0's are the best ones. My ported C9's have the same flow numbers as the Edelbrock aluminums with stock size valves. Also, if I remember correctly, Ford didn't make many (if any) 429's with D3 heads. I think the 429 died in '72.

[058]

mister460:
If it had 460 pistons in it then it's definitely a 460. The pistons are different between the two. D3's are ok but like was said earlier C8, C9, or D0's are the best ones. My ported C9's have the same flow numbers as the Edelbrock aluminums with stock size valves. Also, if I remember correctly, Ford didn't make many (if any) 429's with D3 heads. I think the 429 died in '72. The 429 lasted until 1974 in pass. cars and they had the junk D2 heads [72 only] and the D3 heads on them. The D2 and the D3 heads are 91 cc chambers, only the D4 heads are 96cc.

[mister460]

I sit corrected...but I was close! wink

[1978 Rogers]

I also have Heads D3Ve-A2A, Block DIVE-A2B. I have a Ford intake with DODE-9425-C. I hope the numbers make sence it was hard to read them. Can you tell me anything about this. Anyone.

[Squirtcha?]

Point huh, I live in weyauwega.
If you can round up a set of d8,d9, or d0's then it will up your comp to about 10 to 1 with the piston you have in it right now.
I'm sure it's just a typo, but I think you meant C8, C9 or DO.
I have come across something that works great for frost plugs I use a fix it type plug that uses a rubber plug and metal plate with a nut to tighten it they work great and in the spring or fall all you do is pop them out and clean all the sand and crap out of the holes!
They work, but watch em. If they loosen up (They'll dryrot or shrink and it happens with age) and don't get tightened up, it'll spit one out and you'll have a big surprise on your hands in the form of a sinking boat. Ask me how I know...................

[LakesOnly]

I also have Heads D3Ve-A2A, Block DIVE-A2B. I have a Ford intake with DODE-9425-C. I hope the numbers make sence it was hard to read them. Can you tell me anything about this. Anyone.
My first impression is that you have a Marine 460. This is based on the casting numbers of the block, heads and primarily the intake casting number you have given, which is actually D0OE-9425-C. This is a casti iron Cobra Jet intake and was stock issure on the marine 460. A good stock motor. It has the cobra jet style rod.
LO

[Jet City]

I also have Heads D3Ve-A2A, Block DIVE-A2B. I have a Ford intake with DODE-9425-C. I hope the numbers make sence it was hard to read them. Can you tell me anything about this. Anyone.
DOOE-9425 intake, 1970 iron SCJ, very comon on jetboat engines, my '78 jet also has D3VE heads and D1VE block, these are the numbers you'll find on nearly all 460 jetboats made in the 70's (if still original). As someone else stated, the only heads that are duds in the 460 line-up is the D2VE's, these had a poor combustion design and are detonation prone. Also, post '79 460's are externally balanced.

[1978 Rogers]

The privious owner was pretty handy with engines & etc. He told me he rebuilt the engine to make in more easier to operate for his family to use as a ski boat. The guy he bought it from had a high compression ratio and it idled rough.