New Air scoop

[delemorte]

So i got my new stainless steel air scoop from jet boat performance today..
BTW if you have not done buisiness with Tom over at JBP then you should give him a call next time you need anything. Awesome to do buisness with and super freindly.. www.jetboatperformance.com
Ok but back to my issue. So now that i have this beutiful new air scoop how do i secure it to my Holly Carb? I dont see any screws, bolt, latches etc.. The bottom Pic is what came off my carb so you can see what i am working with. When i get some day light i can post some pics of the exsposed carb so you can see what is there.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/12/34100363887.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7245092)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/12/34100363890.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7245093)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28516344336.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6857486)

[IMPATIENT 1]

just build alittle bar to hold down the scoop by the air cleaner stud or by a carb mounted scoop mount(@70bucks)

[delemorte]

just build alittle bar to hold down the scoop by the air cleaner stud or by a carb mounted scoop mount(@70bucks)
And is this device available locally? Can you link me?

[delemorte]

I just looked at this thing again.. and i think you are right. the air cleaner nut is proly the easy way to go.. will that be strong enough though?

[IMPATIENT 1]

And is this device available locally? Can you link me?
regular holley or dominator? i'll go look up the 1 i'm getting, but i run dominator, they have standard holley too.

[1968Droptop]

My old Sanger had that style scoop. It had a spark arrestor holding it down. Some say the spark arrestors are restrictive, others say they aren't.

[IMPATIENT 1]

here's the type i'm getting. they sell them with throttle cable mounts also, even for morse cables
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEGS-55010-4150-Scoop-Mount_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ46093QQihZ008QQit emZ180181720354QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

[delemorte]

here's the type i'm getting. they sell them with throttle cable mounts also, even for morse cables
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JEGS-55010-4150-Scoop-Mount_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ46093QQihZ008QQit emZ180181720354QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V
I have a plate like that but that would mean i woudl have to drill this stainless steel. wouldlove to avoid if at all possible..
So will the air cleaner bolt hold this down enough? I woudl think so as in a car thost style air cleaners are pretty attached...

[River Rat 005]

I've used the air cleaner bolt to hold my scoops on single carbs since 1976. Haven't lost one yet.
Tim

[spectras only]

This is how it's done ,held by the arrestor .
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/IMG_1745.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/spectrasonly/IMG_2605%20copy.jpg

[jetboatperformance]

Sean great transaction ,The Big Blue pro stock delio will look great on my Place craft Dual Dom set up (paint even matches). Spectrasonly ,NICE stuff in the background there and yes thats the set up! We actually put a small bead of silicone on the bottom of the flame arrestor and let it cure to the scoop ,so it and the scoop are bonded , Josh likes to drill a small hole in the carb for a tiny roll pin and a cooresponding slot in the scoop base to keep the scoop from turning as well Tom
btw hey Spectras want another one ? lol

[bp]

Some say the spark arrestors are restrictive, others say they aren't.
they absolutely are, no question.

[delemorte]

Gotcha... after looking at these two peices and thinking about it for a while the flame arestor will be the ticket for this one. Im glad the scoop is gonna work for you.

[spectras only]

btw hey Spectras want another one ? lol
Did you mean a scoop ?:idea:

[jetboatperformance]

Did you mean a scoop ?:idea:
No ,;) ,I was just teasin , i meant Spectras

[delemorte]

Well they are installed.
Question with out actually tapping this sucker and putting in a pin will it always have some movement around the carb? Imagine looking down on it moving like a clock. it wont move on its own but i can move it with minimal effort. I have some ideas to increase the friction but wanted to know before i started to play with it.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/12/34123025354.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7249270)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/12/34123025389.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7249269)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/12/34123025296.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7249268)
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/12/34123025257.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=7249267)
Much cleaner looking than before IMHO.
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/10/28516344634.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6857503)

[H20MOFO]

I also think that looks better. I wish I'd have bought mine from Tom. I looked two years ago and had a hard time trying to find one period. I ended up gettin one out of jegs or summitt and the finish on it looks like $hit. BTW are you gonna run that scoop with the open end facing fwd or back:eek: Or maybe thats a whole nother thread.:D

[Hass828]

It will always be a hassle to keep straight with just the stud holding it and they look like crap when you come in from a pass with a crooked scoop so try to do somethin to keeper straight.

[jetboatperformance]

Hass ,maybe check the 'roll pin idea" earlier in the thread ? (to keep the scoop straight Tom

[jetboatperformance]

[QUOTE=delemorte;2934042]Well they are installed.
Question with out actually tapping this sucker and putting in a pin will it always have some movement around the carb? Imagine looking down on it moving like a clock. it wont move on its own but i can move it with minimal effort. I have some ideas to increase the friction but wanted to know before i started to play with it.
Sean wind and vibration can move it for sure ,a tiny hole in the carb air horn to accept a "drive in" 1/8 roll pin and a cooresponding slot cut into the scoop base will do it Then top it off with a scoop cover your there !Tom
(sorry for the crappy art)
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/jetboatperformance/Misc/DSC08426.jpg

[Hass828]

Hass ,maybe check the 'roll pin idea" earlier in the thread ? (to keep the scoop straight Tom
Tom, great idea with the roll pin. I have never ran one of these scoops but I have a friend who did and he had the problem. I'll pass on the info. Thanks

[delemorte]

[B][B]Sean wind and vibration can move it for sure ,a tiny hole in the carb air horn to accept a "drive in" 1/8 roll pin and a cooresponding slot cut into the scoop base will do it Then top it off with a scoop cover your there !Tom
(sorry for the crappy art)
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/jetboatperformance/Misc/DSC08426.jpg
yeah i got that idea.. and yes that would resolve it.. but me and power tools with out pre drilled holes can be dangerous... Ill see what i can have it done for. I would rather pay to have it done right that do it wrong and end up eating a carb.... man would'nt that sux.

[delemorte]

BTW are you gonna run that scoop with the open end facing fwd or back:eek: Or maybe thats a whole nother thread.:D
Would it matter? i would think forward would be better air intake but more crap to fish out of it after a day on the lake.
And yes i agree.. I love the new look.. now its time to think about OT headers. My pops included two sets of OT headers with the boat when he gave it to me...

[jetboatperformance]

Tom, great idea with the roll pin. I have never ran one of these scoops but I have a friend who did and he had the problem. I'll pass on the info. Thanks
Good luck ,yeah always hated the crooked scoop thing , I got a relative wears his hat cocked to one side ,always want to "straighten" it drives me nuts lol Tom
btw in the "for what its worth catagory' I had this single Dominator scoop made with a 4150 base recently is kind of a magnum scoop for small carbs
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/jetboatperformance/Eliminator%20V-drive/DSC08261a.jpg

[ONAROLL]

It will always be a hassle to keep straight with just the stud holding it and they look like crap when you come in from a pass with a crooked scoop so try to do somethin to keeper straight.
If your using a cross bar with a hole drilled for the stud, wrap the ends of the bar with black tape or rubber boots, it will lessen the vibration and keep the scoop from turning, total cost ........nuthin, been running mine that way for years.

[delemorte]

If your using a cross bar with a hole drilled for the stud, wrap the ends of the bar with black tape or rubber boots, it will lessen the vibration and keep the scoop from turning, total cost ........nuthin, been running mine that way for years.
Can you provide a picture to show me whatyour talkin about?

[ONAROLL]

Can you provide a picture to show me whatyour talkin about?
Im not at the shop so I will describe it, put your carb air cleaner gasket on the carb, put approx 3 inch of 1/4 all thread into the carb stud hole and run it down, make a "flat cross bar" that will span over the hole inside your scoop, drill a hole in the middle of your cross bar to accept the stud, take electrical tape and wrap the ends of the cross bar, put the scoop in place, place the cross bar inside the scoop and the stud through the hole, put on a flat washer and a 1/4 wing nut, tighten till the cross bar secures the scoop, the carb gasket and the tape will provide enough friction to keep the scoop straight, I like the wing nut deal so I can loosen it to turn my scoop around in the rain, my scoop never moves.........a little ghetto, but it works.........