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HocusPocus
12-17-2007, 07:56 AM
My bother-in-law is being given a house from a relative who is dying of cancer. This relative owns the house free and clear, can he simply sign the house over to my BIL or will it have to go into an escrow of some kind? Also what kind of taxes will he be hit with for this "gift"? The house is in California, San Bernardino County.

C-2
12-17-2007, 08:05 AM
Spend a few hundred dollars to have it done thru a title company, so that it will be a title insured transfer. Otherwise, it will have to be done at a later date.

BoatPI
12-17-2007, 08:19 AM
The re experts will confirm, but if he waits and leaves it to him in his will then the heir will retain the property tax base!! If the property was purchased years ago that id huge. Check with a pro as I cannot recall the kin relationship for the tax transfer. That could make the property an excellent income piece too.

Mandelon
12-17-2007, 08:47 AM
Better to inherit the house after death through the will.
A gift while alive will give him a huge tax hit.
Stop them before its too late!!!!
Go talk to a tax guy for sure on this.

YeLLowBoaT
12-17-2007, 08:48 AM
Lots of factors could apply here... every thing from how much he makes, how its transfered, what realiation he is to the one giving him the house...

Magic34
12-17-2007, 09:09 AM
Cant he just buy it for a $1?

HocusPocus
12-17-2007, 09:25 AM
thanks everyone, i just called him and said he needed to get some professional advice ASAP. not sure what he was thinking but he just thought he would have the deed signed over to him, put it up for sale and collect the cash free and clear, i couldn't help but to laugh.

Magic34
12-17-2007, 09:33 AM
thanks everyone, i just called him and said he needed to get some professional advice ASAP. not sure what he was thinking but he just thought he would have the deed signed over to him, put it up for sale and collect the cash free and clear, i couldn't help but to laugh.
He needs to hold onto it for 2 years also after a sale has been closed.

YeLLowBoaT
12-17-2007, 09:37 AM
thanks everyone, i just called him and said he needed to get some professional advice ASAP. not sure what he was thinking but he just thought he would have the deed signed over to him, put it up for sale and collect the cash free and clear, i couldn't help but to laugh.
LMAO yeah thats a good idea... :)

Mandelon
12-17-2007, 09:48 AM
He needs to hold onto it for 2 years also after a sale has been closed.
And even then the exclusion is only $250K, the rest would be taxable..

Magic34
12-17-2007, 10:05 AM
And even then the exclusion is only $250K, the rest would be taxable..
Exactly. He needs to buy it for anywhere between $1-$10k. Then the person that is giving him the house can give the money back.
Is this person giving him a $500k+ house?
Also considering the market conditions, it would be in his best interest to keep it a few years also.

AirtimeLavey
12-17-2007, 11:23 AM
Mostly all good advice, but bottomline, he needs to talk to a good tax guy quick.

Ivan Dan
12-17-2007, 12:13 PM
He needs to hold onto it for 2 years also after a sale has been closed.
I believe (I'm not a CPA) in order to be able to get $250k ($500k if married) tax free I believe he would need to live in it for 2 years as a primary residence. I'm pretty sure he would have tax ramifications either way if he doesn't live in it atleast 2 years.
I would highly recommend to seek the advice of a qualified CPA to find the best way to approach this situation.

Magic34
12-17-2007, 12:14 PM
I believe (I'm not a CPA) in order to be able to get $250k ($500k if married) tax free I believe he would need to live in it for 2 years as a primary residence. I'm pretty sure he would have tax ramifications either way if he doesn't live in it atleast 2 years.
I would highly recommend to seek the advice of a qualified CPA to find the best way to approach this situation.
Or give it to me and I will get him paid. :D

Focker
12-17-2007, 12:15 PM
CPA Tax Advice
The Only Way To Avoid Any Taxes Is To Receive It As An Inheritance. (unless We Are Talking A Multi Million Dollar Home)
His Tax Basis In The House Will Be The Fair Market Value Of The House At The Date Of Death. If He Intends To Sell It Immediately Then Unless He Puts Fixes Into It The Selling Price Should Be The Same As His Tax Basis And Result In Zero Gain.

phebus
12-17-2007, 12:21 PM
Two words, "Living Will"

voodoomedman
12-17-2007, 12:22 PM
Get professional advice. Their can be problems any way you go. The thing not mentioned by all saying to just wait and take it as an inheritance is that if the dying doesn't have a living trust or some sort of other vehicle to protect his assets then after paying probate taxes it might have just been better to take the property now.

voodoomedman
12-17-2007, 12:23 PM
Two words, "Living Will"See what I mean about the expert advice. A living will is basically whether or not you want the plug pulled on you should you be on life support and that kinda thing. Living trust would protect the property from probate taxes.