President Barack Obama

[Knotbad]

History was made tonight. A new day has dawned. The ones who brought this once-great country to its knees will soon be gone(and some in jail I hope). We need to come together and work to bring America back to its high standing among the nations of the world.

[Blown 472]

History was made tonight. A new day has dawned. The ones who brought this once-great country to its knees will soon be gone(and some in jail I hope). We need to come together and work to bring America back to its high standing among the nations of the world.
Here here, lets put the bush war criminals behind bars.:devil:

[donzi5150]

Here here, lets put the bush war criminals behind bars.:devil:
So would that include Clinton and Karry and Pelosi and Reid who voted to give the Pres the authority to go?

[Knotbad]

So would that include Clinton and Karry and Pelosi and Reid who voted to give the Pres the authority to go?They were duped, just like the rest of the Congressmen who voted for it. Some, like Russ Feingold and Dennis Kucinich, were NOT duped, but their voices were drowned out in the rush to war. A masterful job by the bu$h propaganda machine.

[donzi5150]

They were duped, just like the rest of the Congressmen who voted for it. Some, like Russ Feingold and Dennis Kucinich, were NOT duped, but their voices were drowned out in the rush to war. A masterful job by the bu$h propaganda machine.
They say the same intelligence reports not just from American sources but European and Middle Eastern sources….if they voted and did not read and understand all the sources then it sounds like there was some dereliction of duty on their part and they should be investigated…….All were responsible!

[centerhill condor]

So here's what I learned. libs and commies write the same political rhetoric. how does that make you feel. I meet folks that say some of the same stuff and ask if they read pravda...they don't even know they've become tools of the kremlin...praise be to public education.
CC
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Only Satan would have been worse than the Bush regime. Therefore it could be argued that the new administration in the USA could never be worse than the one which divorced the hearts and minds of Americans from their brothers in the international community, which appalled the rest of the world with shock and awe tactics that included concentration camps, torture, mass murder and utter disrespect for international law. Yet in choosing Obama, the people of America have opted to come back into the international fold. Welcome back, friends!
A change for the better
America chooses its future
Barack Obama is one man who has a mission and a dream. He will not change the world, as he claims and he might not even change the USA, in the near future at least. Powerful lobbies control the strings which control the puppets in Washington – indeed, it is not Washington that needs to be changed, but the invisible barons dictating its policies.
However, Obama (while his running mate, Biden, is very much establishment and Zionist) is a breath of fresh air and the significance of his election yesterday cannot be overestimated. Firstly, the people of the USA have voted out the Bush regime and the odious mass-murdering thugs which controlled it and saw Washington vying with Nazi Germany for a place on the Podium of Horror. Himmler and Rumsfeld the Torturers, Goebbels and Rice the propaganda machines, Hitler and Bush the Fuhrers, masterminding concentration camps, medieval-style torture chambers, illegal invasions, acts of mass slaughter and horrific acts of cruelty as international law was consigned to the dustbin.
Secondly, the people of the USA, in choosing Obama, have given a clear message to the international community that enough is enough and despite having voted for the Bush regime twice, now make a stand in favour of dialogue and discussion, debate and respect for the law, for these are the precepts which Barack Obama proclaimed he would adopt in his external policy.
Those of us in the international community who predicted eight long years ago what would happen if Bush were elected must do two things. First, never forget the damage done by George W. Bush and his minions of evil and make sure that, like the generations after Hitler, history does not pardon these criminals as well-meaning politicians who were the victims of tough times. Secondly, we must give Barack Obama a blank page to write on, and hand him the pen with a sincere and open smile.

[ULTRA26 # 1]

History was made tonight. A new day has dawned. The ones who brought this once-great country to its knees will soon be gone(and some in jail I hope). We need to come together and work to bring America back to its high standing among the nations of the world.
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[Knotbad]

So here's what I learned. libs and commies write the same political rhetoric. how does that make you feel. I meet folks that say some of the same stuff and ask if they read pravda...they don't even know they've become tools of the kremlin...praise be to public education.
CC
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Only Satan would have been worse than the Bush regime. Therefore it could be argued that the new administration in the USA could never be worse than the one which divorced the hearts and minds of Americans from their brothers in the international community, which appalled the rest of the world with shock and awe tactics that included concentration camps, torture, mass murder and utter disrespect for international law. Yet in choosing Obama, the people of America have opted to come back into the international fold. Welcome back, friends!
A change for the better
America chooses its future
Barack Obama is one man who has a mission and a dream. He will not change the world, as he claims and he might not even change the USA, in the near future at least. Powerful lobbies control the strings which control the puppets in Washington – indeed, it is not Washington that needs to be changed, but the invisible barons dictating its policies.
However, Obama (while his running mate, Biden, is very much establishment and Zionist) is a breath of fresh air and the significance of his election yesterday cannot be overestimated. Firstly, the people of the USA have voted out the Bush regime and the odious mass-murdering thugs which controlled it and saw Washington vying with Nazi Germany for a place on the Podium of Horror. Himmler and Rumsfeld the Torturers, Goebbels and Rice the propaganda machines, Hitler and Bush the Fuhrers, masterminding concentration camps, medieval-style torture chambers, illegal invasions, acts of mass slaughter and horrific acts of cruelty as international law was consigned to the dustbin.
Secondly, the people of the USA, in choosing Obama, have given a clear message to the international community that enough is enough and despite having voted for the Bush regime twice, now make a stand in favour of dialogue and discussion, debate and respect for the law, for these are the precepts which Barack Obama proclaimed he would adopt in his external policy.
Those of us in the international community who predicted eight long years ago what would happen if Bush were elected must do two things. First, never forget the damage done by George W. Bush and his minions of evil and make sure that, like the generations after Hitler, history does not pardon these criminals as well-meaning politicians who were the victims of tough times. Secondly, we must give Barack Obama a blank page to write on, and hand him the pen with a sincere and open smile.I myself have very few problems with that article. It might be a bit much in some places, and certainly hypocritical with no mention of the monstrous mass-murderers Lenin and Stalin, but in the particulars of torture and illegal invasions(of which Russia is also guilty), it is on the mark. Plus I thought Medvedev's threat of moving missiles close to Poland was not good timing for our elections, but obviously Putin(the REAL power in the Kremlin still) didn't care.
I grew up during the REAL Cold War so I don't trust the Russians as far as I can see them from Wasilla. Not many things I agreed with Ronnie Rayguns about, but he once said, "doveryai no proveryai" which in Russian means "trust but verify". President Obama would do well to abide by that phrase in his dealings with them.

[centerhill condor]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=53C2-b8BOLs
this confirmed my expectations.
CC

[tamalewagon]

History was made tonight. A new day has dawned. The ones who brought this once-great country to its knees will soon be gone(and some in jail I hope). We need to come together and work to bring America back to its high standing among the nations of the world.
You of course are referring to Bill Clinton and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac right? You people astonish me with your finger pointing when you clearly have no idea which direction to point. Bill Clinton and his cronies were solely responsible for the downfall of our housing market. He and the two mortgage giants collaborated on a plan which would put people into mortgage that clearly could not/should not qualify for them in the first place. The majority of these loans were subprime mortgages ie 2 and 3 year fixed rates at outrageous points. The evidence that Clinton and Fannie/Freddie were in bed on this is irrefutable. You people need to think with your brains...you know, that lump 3 feet above your ass.

[Blown 472]

You of course are referring to Bill Clinton and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac right? You people astonish me with your finger pointing when you clearly have no idea which direction to point. Bill Clinton and his cronies were solely responsible for the downfall of our housing market. He and the two mortgage giants collaborated on a plan which would put people into mortgage that clearly could not/should not qualify for them in the first place. The majority of these loans were subprime mortgages ie 2 and 3 year fixed rates at outrageous points. The evidence that Clinton and Fannie/Freddie were in bed on this is irrefutable. You people need to think with your brains...you know, that lump 3 feet above your ass.
But the bushies knew about this and did nothing about it, sept give billions to jew bankers.

[Blown 472]

Trillions of dollars for the International Jewish Bankers…
Zero for America’s Auto industry and 10 million American employees.
Hear David Duke Speak on This Issue
By David Duke
Ben Shalom Bernanke, the Jewish head of the Federal Reserve told Congress and the American people that we must pass a 700 billion dollar bailout (theft) of taxpayer’s money that must be given to the Jewish-dominated international banks. At the same time the Jewish economic bosses don’t want to give a dime to the overwhelmingly Gentile auto industry that employs 2 million Americans!
The same Jewish international bank recipients of the bailout were the biggest contributors of Obama and McCain as illustrated by Jewish firm of Goldman Sacks, Obama’s biggest single contributor at over $800,000 (last FEC report before the election). Does that sound like change you can believe in?
The Washington Post estimated that over 50 percent of national political funding comes from Jewish sources, a group only 2.3 percent of the population. The wealthiest and most powerful lobby in Congress is AIPAC (the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee). AIPAC is essentially a lobby for a foreign nation, Israel and every perceived interest of the Jewish community.
Firms like Goldman Sachs and Lehman brothers have given tens of millions of dollars to the same Congress that passed the 700 billion dollar bailout for the international banking houses. In addition to the 700 billion theft of taxpayer’s money authorized by Congress, money allocated directly by Bernanke’s Federal Reserve and by executive order will amount to at least an additional trillion dollars.
That is the staggering sum of 1.7 trillion dollars of taxpayer’s money allocated to the International Bankers. 1.7 trillion dollars is one thousand seven hundred billion dollars and experts say that the amount could double over the next year.
The media which was monolithically for the bailout are in Jewish hands every bit as much a American political fundraising and lobbying. Here’s a direct quote from a major Jewish publication bragging about their control of America’s major media conglomerates:
“Four of the largest five entertainment giants are now run or owned by Jews. Murdoch’s News Corp (at number four) is the only gentile holdout - however Rupert is as pro-Israel as any Jew, probably more so.” (Los Angeles Jewish Times Oct. 29. 1999) [Other sources claim Murdoch's mother, Elisabeth J. Greene, is Jewish, in addition Murdoch's right hand man who runs the day to day operations of the Fox News Corp is Peter Chernin, an open Jewish extremist and Israeli Partisan.]
The same Jewish owned and run newspapers such as The Wall Street Journal, The NY Times and The Washington Post that unanimously supported the bailout of the mostly Jewish financial firms now are questioning whether the government should offer a tiny loan (in comparison to the bailout of international financial firms) to perhaps the most important economic linchpin of the country, the American auto industry. If the American auto industry is lost it will cost America upward of 10 million jobs and certainly result in economic ruin for the rest of us as well.
Starting with Henry Ford, the auto companies did more than any other manufacturing industry to make America a prosperous economic powerhouse. The last three American auto makers, GM, Ford and Chrysler are now facing bankruptcy and annihilation.
This burgeoning depression brought on by massive banking fraud, misuse, theft and mismanagement now threatens the most important segment of the U.S. economy, the American auto industry. This bankruptcy is also due in no small part the free trade policies that have flooded America with cars and goods from Third World plants based on slave labor wages and plants that did not have the added expenses required of environmental protection. Cars have poured in from Mexico, Brazil and other parts of the planet and crippled the U.S. auto industry. The many auto manufacturers thriving after the Second World War have been reduced to only 3. Now, on top of suicidal American trade policies set by the international financiers, auto companies are being dealt a death blow by the current financial crisis brought on by the same international banking firms.
What are these last 3 American automakers asking for? Unlike the financial firms, they are not asking the taxpayer to take over trillions of dollars of bad debts. They are simply asking for a loan, I repeat a loan of $25 billion to be taken from the 1.7 trillion dollars allocated to the International Banks. Just 25 billion out of 1,700 billion! But that is just too much for the greedy Wall Street financial crowd.
Most Americans are simply not informed as what is at stake. U.S. auto companies directly employ over 250,000 Americans, another 730,000 have jobs with businesses that produce the parts and materials that go into cars, and over 1,000,000 Americans work in dealerships. That’s approximately 2 million Americans who, if they lost their jobs would go from producing income and spending for other goods and services to being a huge drain on the social and economic system. The cascade effect would result in 4 or 5 times their number of unemployed Americans.
To quote the Associated Press on November 20, 2008:
“…If just one of the auto giants would go belly up, some estimates put U.S. job losses next year as high as 2.5 million.”
If all three go bankrupt because of the cascading effect it would probably result in over 10 million jobs lost.
The Jewish-dominated media has been featuring pundit after pundit telling the public to oppose the auto industry loan. This is the same media that overwhelmingly tell us that 1,700 billion taxpayer robbery to the international Jewish financial companies is absolutely necessary. Watching the conservative, Jewish Neocon run Fox News this morning and the more liberal Jewish run MSNBC and CNN, I have seen story after story condemning the proposal to loan money to our ailing auto industry. They have even run stories about the fact that the big three auto dealers dared to come to Washington from Detroit on their corporate jets, costing about $ 20,000 in an attempt to make the American people think that that they shouldn’t get any money. All the top executives of the largest firms in the world, including the financial executives that are being bailed out now, fly in corporate jets.
When Bernanke and the Jewish investment firms were pushing for 1,700 billion purchase of their toxic paper (worthless mortgages) there were no stories of the dozens of international bankers flying from NY and all over the world to Washington to push for the bailout.
The media also left the impression that the 25 billion dollar loan is a new loan in addition to the 700 billion congressionally authorized bailout, when in fact it is simply a congressional action that out of the 700 billion dollars for the banksters, just 25 billion of that amount would go for a loan for the American auto industry and the well-being of millions of American workers in this critical American industry.
The Associated Press reported in the November 20 article that:
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson [former CEO at Goldman Sachs] can tap the financial industry bailout money to help auto companies, [Senate Majority Leader] Reid said, but “he just doesn’t want to.”
Of course the former CEO of Goldman Sachs doesn’t.
The contrast of the response to the 1,700 billion dollars for the international Jewish bankers and request of just 25 billion dollars for the overwhelming Gentile auto industry and millions of American workers should be wake up anyone to the real nature of the Federal Government. It is not our government.
It is also not our media. These powers are not in the interest of the American people but an alien elite whose interests always come before that the American people. They wanted the war for Israel in Iraq. Their media lied about it, their bought politicians voted for it. They wanted the change of America’s immigration policy to make European Americans a minority in our own country. They want to take away the wealth and power of the American people and concentrate it in their own hands
It is their media, their government. Bush was their President. Obama is their new President. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss, just that the new boss has a new face.
The opposition to the Auto Industry loan is one more illustration of the fact how we have lost America.
It is proof that we all have to work, struggle and to sacrifice to get it back.
I am doing my part.
How about you?

[thatguy]

History was made tonight. A new day has dawned. The ones who brought this once-great country to its knees will soon be gone(and some in jail I hope). We need to come together and work to bring America back to its high standing among the nations of the world.
Here here, lets put the bush war criminals behind bars.:devil:
LOL!! You guys freaking crack me up!!
All serious like you have a clue. Time will prove just how misguided you are.
Still laughing!

[centerhill condor]

in a totally unrelated case, Chemical Ali was given two death penalties for using chemical weapons against the Kurds.
The WMD issue has been adjudicated in a court of competent jurisdiction...whether the Sadaamites choose to believe it is another issue entirely.
Exactly who is going to what jail for sexing up WMD claims? NOBODY
CC

[Poster X]

You of course are referring to Bill Clinton and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac right? You people astonish me with your finger pointing when you clearly have no idea which direction to point. Bill Clinton and his cronies were solely responsible for the downfall of our housing market. He and the two mortgage giants collaborated on a plan which would put people into mortgage that clearly could not/should not qualify for them in the first place. The majority of these loans were subprime mortgages ie 2 and 3 year fixed rates at outrageous points. The evidence that Clinton and Fannie/Freddie were in bed on this is irrefutable. You people need to think with your brains...you know, that lump 3 feet above your ass.
Actually that's incorrect. Sub prime mortgages only represented 6% of the bailout. A good plan by Clinton pumped billions of dollars into the economy and made many of you rich. However, scalliwags on Wall Street (Bush supporters and contributors - look it up) used a loophole in Clintons bid to create jobs (and a home for every working American) and used it to super inflate values and then generated millions of sketchy loans to support those values - and then used monies intrusted to them to reinvest into those bad loans - further promulgating the illusion. And -- making a few billion on the side for themselves. Don't forget it was the Bush administration and a Republican Congress who deregulated the system. There's your other 94%.
60 billion would have bailed out fannie mae and freddy mac. That's quite a bit less than a trillion. Also don't forget that it's the 300% increase in gas prices that festered the fall of the American manufacturing empire and created [possibly] the worst world wide economy in the last millenium. I understand they lowered prices after they realized they almost wiped out the golden goose - and are laying low [now] while y'all are finger pointing at everyone else. Doesn't change the facts though. ;)
Use your brain man. You obviously have a piece of one.

[Blown 472]

Actually that's incorrect. Sub prime mortgages only represented 6% of the bailout. A good plan by Clinton pumped billions of dollars into the economy and made many of you rich. However, scalliwags on Wall Street (Bush supporters and contributors - look it up) used a loophole in Clintons bid to create jobs (and a home for every working American) and used it to super inflate values and then generated millions of sketchy loans to support those values - and then used monies intrusted to them to reinvest into those bad loans - further promulgating the illusion. And -- making a few billion on the side for themselves. Don't forget it was the Bush administration and a Republican Congress who deregulated the system. There's your other 94%.
60 billion would have bailed out fannie mae and freddy mac. That's quite a bit less than a trillion. Also don't forget that it's the 300% increase in gas prices that festered the fall of the American manufacturing empire and created [possibly] the worst world wide economy in the last millenium. I understand they lowered prices after they realized they almost wiped out the golden goose - and are laying low [now] while y'all are finger pointing at everyone else. Doesn't change the facts though. ;)
Use your brain man. You obviously have a piece of one.
HO no, the gubment doesn't have any control over the gas or oil prices, just ask that assclown smokinacock.

[donzi5150]

HO no, the gubment doesn't have any control over the gas or oil prices, just ask that assclown smokinacock.
Were you and X separated at birth or just each others pole smokers? That’s right Bush did it all........The Dems have had congress for how long and the bottom fell out 3 months ago with Barney Frank out saying how Freddy and Fannie we sound and to invest in them but then the gas prices.....lets see, Bush announced that he was lifting the Presidential Restriction on offshore drilling and in 3 weeks the price drops $40.....congress went home and still has not lifted their restriction....but you are right Bush did it all......as dumb as you all make hi out to be he must be a genius to have manipulated and hide things from so many people....including the Dem congress....Pssssst, I also heard Bush hid the WMD's out in the desert with the Secret Services help but lost the map showing where they were for all the left to see since they don't believe that 3 million were gassed over the years and all the chemical scientists as well as nuclear scientists that have testified of their existence and or development toward existence!

[Blown 472]

Were you and X separated at birth or just each others pole smokers? That’s right Bush did it all........The Dems have had congress for ho long and the bottom fell out 3 months ago with Barney Frank out saying how Freddy and Fannie we sound and to invest in them but then the gas prices.....lets see, Bush announced that he was lifting the Presidential Restriction on offshore drilling and in 3 weeks the price drops $40.....congress went home and still has not lifted their restriction....but you are right Bush did it all......as dumb as you all make hi out to be he must be a genius to have manipulated and hide things from so many people....including the Dem congress....Pssssst, I also heard Bush hid the WMD's out in the desert with the Secret Services help but lost the map showing where they were for all the left to see since they don't believe that 3 million were gassed over the years and all the chemical scientists as well as nuclear scientists that have testified of their existence and or development toward existence!
Swing away.

[centerhill condor]

A good plan by Clinton pumped billions of dollars into the economy and made many of you rich.
You're never rich with borrowed money.
Do you remember Pres. Clinton's speech regarding loans secured with "character". Seems almost funny now doesn't it?
The drop in fuel costs is anything but voluntary.
And alas, we've come back to Lott, find one good man and I will spare mankind.
How many more con men are on the verge of being discovered?
CC

[K-9]

The Only Votes Obama Got We're From The Ignorant Young The Ignorant Minority And Just The Plain Ignorant .......SAD BUT TRUE

[donzi5150]

The Only Votes Obama Got We're From The Ignorant Young The Ignorant Minority And Just The Plain Ignorant .......SAD BUT TRUE
Blown and X aren’t ignorant that are just "Grossly Misguided!"
Blown, I swung, but you and your candidate can't catch......

[Blown 472]

Blown and X aren’t ignorant that are just "Grossly Misguided!"
Blown, I swung, but you and your candidate can't catch......
Yeah I should watch fox news and cnn and what ever else you sheepeople watch.

[Poster X]

You're never rich with borrowed money.
Do you remember Pres. Clinton's speech regarding loans secured with "character". Seems almost funny now doesn't it?
The drop in fuel costs is anything but voluntary.
And alas, we've come back to Lott, find one good man and I will spare mankind.
How many more con men are on the verge of being discovered?
CC
Fuel costs are manipulated based on what fear will bring in the open market. Usually, it's quite a bit.
So, you support a system where a man is not judged by the content of his character? The greatest generation and all those prior made most of their decisions (financial and personal) based on the content of a man's character. Although there are exceptions to every rule... they fared pretty well overall - and the morality of their society exceeded anything we've replaced it with using credit ratings, background checks and personal wealth.
We have yet to reach the apex of "con men" not yet caught. It is these con men who devastated our system, not poor people buying more than they could afford. It was exploitation of the system, not the system itself that destroyed our economic base. Just for giggles, look into the political affiliations of these mega buck charlatans and see what you come up with. I promise you a concensus of a particular political party. Hmmm?

[centerhill condor]

Fuel costs are manipulated based on what fear will bring in the open market. Usually, it's quite a bit.
So, you support a system where a man is not judged by the content of his character? The greatest generation and all those prior made most of their decisions (financial and personal) based on the content of a man's character. Although there are exceptions to every rule... they fared pretty well overall - and the morality of their society exceeded anything we've replaced it with using credit ratings, background checks and personal wealth.
It is these con men who devastated our system, not poor people buying more than they could afford. It was exploitation of the system, not the system itself that destroyed our economic base.
You throw around words like character, integrity, leadership and morality as if they can be bought in the veggie dept.
Only in the last 50 years have we the money to "buy off" adverse consequences of immorality to which we've become accustomed.
Any "system" that takes from "the rich" to give to "the poor" via the awesome power of the state is the very antithesis of this character you mention. That generation you referenced fought and died to protect you from such a "system".
How does a "con man" differ from the poor getting more house than they could afford? Is it the dollar amount? or education? or intent? or foreclosure?
It appears as if you believe that every problem has a financial solution. You'll grow out of this set of training wheels, as well.
CC

[Poster X]

You throw around words like character, integrity, leadership and morality as if they can be bought in the veggie dept.CC
I'm afraid I do not. Unfortunately integrity is fairly rare these days. I find myself thanking someone for having it, when in fact, it should be expected.
Only in the last 50 years have we the money to "buy off" adverse consequences of immorality to which we've become accustomed.
CC
Buy off adverse consequences of immorality? You can buy off immorality? I didn't know that. The concept of even being able to "buy" your way out of the disintegration of American morality is in fact... immoral.
Any "system" that takes from "the rich" to give to "the poor" via the awesome power of the state is the very antithesis of this character you mention. That generation you referenced fought and died to protect you from such a "system".
CC
Here in the trailer park our forefathers did not die so that greedy businessmen and amoral politicians could rob the state coffers and blame people for being poor whilst they skipped the light fandango in the Hamptons and Dubai. As a matter of fact, sometimes we think being poor can be a badge of honor because it sometimes means one deferred financial gain from ill gotten opportunities as a matter of principle. That being said, you cannot surmise the depths of a mans character by his pocket book. Either rich or poor. You cannot provide me an example of any democrat wanting to rob from the rich and give to the poor. All you can site is a tax increase for those who can afford it. I doubt that's you because you haven't exercized a great deal of intellect to date that would indicate you have earning power in the first place. If I'm wrong... congrats. You slipped through the cracks. They say the poor fight 80% of the battles. If that's true, it is my forefathers who died for you. God bless them.
How does a "con man" differ from the poor getting more house than they could afford? Is it the dollar amount? or education? or intent? or foreclosure?
It appears as if you believe that every problem has a financial solution. You'll grow out of this set of training wheels, as well.
CC
In psychological terms it is called manipulation. I refer you to Dr. Edward Bernay for a more in depth analysis of the phenomenon. Wall Street and Madison Avenue makes a pretty comfortable living doing it. ;)
Not every problem has a financial solution. However, financial problems do have a financial solution (as a rule.)
A couple quick questions of my own.
How old are you and how long have you been working for your Daddy?

[donzi5150]

His state is in disgrace, his replacement in the senate rejected, his Chief of Staff a person of interest in an investigation, his Sec. of Commerce bowing out because of a Play to Play investigation, Panetta with absolute no intelligence experience nominated for the highest Intel position and the enemy though out the election process and a memeber of one of the most vengeful political families in America as his number 3......does any one see this train wreck?:idea:

[Sundance]

The train has already gone off the tracks. It's just looking for a cliff to go over. We knew about Slinky Bill a long time ago in New Mexico.
Food for thought!
Richardson was in Clinton's Cabinet. They drank and partied together. Richardson runs for Pres. bows out. Who does he support?
Obama! Clinton was not happy! Who is one of the most Powerful politicans in the US? Clinton!
Put 2+2 together. Do you think Richardson's investegation may have some political pay back behind it.
You don't **** with Clinton, unless your name is Monica!
Amazingly my wife was the one that came up with that. I don't give her enough credit.

[centerhill condor]

PBO is gonna ask for an economic stimulus package of $775 billion dollars over two years. Speculation regarding a give away tax cut for those that don't make enough to pay income taxes of roughly $300 B. Throw in the Congress and I predict it'll be a trillion.
So, lets throw out some scale for those of you that can't imagine a check with 12 zeros on the left of the decimal. 31,000 years ago neanderthals
were still trying to make fire.
In today's money, the apollo space program ('61 to '72) cost $140B, the atomic bomb comes in at $29B, the Louisiana purchase $261m if you prefer as % of gdp it'd be $409B, Panama canal a steal at $7B, the interstate hwy system was suppossed to take 12 years and $25B actually took 35 years and cost $800B in today's money.
Only WWII, the big one, tipped the trillion dollar mark....$17 trillion in today's dollars with 16 million troops and four years!
Say what you want about PBO...but he certainly isn't afraid of spending your grandkids money!
CC

[Blown 472]

God bless gdumbya, for he does no wrong.

[Poster X]

PBO is gonna ask for an economic stimulus package of $775 billion dollars over two years. Speculation regarding a give away tax cut for those that don't make enough to pay income taxes of roughly $300 B. Throw in the Congress and I predict it'll be a trillion.
So, lets throw out some scale for those of you that can't imagine a check with 12 zeros on the left of the decimal. 31,000 years ago neanderthals
were still trying to make fire.
In today's money, the apollo space program ('61 to '72) cost $140B, the atomic bomb comes in at $29B, the Louisiana purchase $261m if you prefer as % of gdp it'd be $409B, Panama canal a steal at $7B, the interstate hwy system was suppossed to take 12 years and $25B actually took 35 years and cost $800B in today's money.
Only WWII, the big one, tipped the trillion dollar mark....$17 trillion in today's dollars with 16 million troops and four years!
Say what you want about PBO...but he certainly isn't afraid of spending your grandkids money!
CC
You'd have a little credibility on those points had you not supported the President that created the deficits, (soon to be depression) and corporate bailouts that cost the first two trillion dollars in history. Your omission of these facts only illuminates what we already know... you're chomping at the bit to shuck responsibility and dispalce fault. Is there a smart Republican around here I can talk to? I ask only because, it really is going to take a nonpartisan solution to an overwhelmingly partisan problem created by ignorance, graft and cronyism.

[Blown 472]

You'd have a little credibility on those points had you not supported the President that created the deficits, (soon to be depression) and corporate bailouts that cost the first two trillion dollars in history. Your omission of these facts only illuminates what we already know... you're chomping at the bit to shuck responsibility and dispalce fault. Is there a smart Republican around here I can talk to? I ask only because, it really is going to take a nonpartisan solution to an overwhelmingly partisan problem created by ignorance, graft and cronyism.
Oh no, they wont own up to putting that piece of shit in the white house.

[centerhill condor]

Just so we're clear...You're gonna blame Bush for all the hard times, bad decisions, unintended consequences etc that we're gonna experience during PBO's term(s).
Thank God you have "W"...otherwise you'd have to accept some responsibilty for your own circumstances....Will you do the same for PBO? or is it all gonna be rainbows, lollipops and sunshine?
I think I'm beginning to get a handle on liberalism. All my problems are somebody else's fault...what about my successes? May I claim them or do I share them, as well?
FDR and the national media blamed Hoover for 12 years! BC blamed GHWB for a while, too.
Straight outta Homer Simpson's play book; "It was like that when I found it, I'm new here, Its (insert whippin' boy's name here) fault".
I voted for "W" twice 'cause he was better than the alternatives. So did enough other people, including Supreme Court Justices, for him to win.
And why would you wish a depression on the country? So your new boy can be the "golden one"? The economy is cyclic...deal with it!
When the Rooskies invade their former satellites, will you and PBO stand on the sidelines cheering? When Venezuala uses Persian weapons to destabilize South/Central America will you and PBO blame Israel? or will you wring your hands and blame that SOB "W"? When the price of gas goes back up will you insist that PBO is in bed with the Arabs or was that just "W"?
I wish PBO the very best of luck with smooth seas, sunny days, warm nights, and a strong crew.
BTW, I've yet to read where any of ya'll are braggin' 'bout PBO and his new policies...is that 'cause you don't know of any? or 'cause he hasn't spoken them into existance? or 'cause its easier to bash the Bush!
CC

[Poster X]

Just so we're clear...You're gonna blame Bush for all the hard times, bad decisions, unintended consequences etc that we're gonna experience during PBO's term(s).
Thank God you have "W"...otherwise you'd have to accept some responsibilty for your own circumstances....Will you do the same for PBO? or is it all gonna be rainbows, lollipops and sunshine?
I think I'm beginning to get a handle on liberalism. All my problems are somebody else's fault...what about my successes? May I claim them or do I share them, as well?
FDR and the national media blamed Hoover for 12 years! BC blamed GHWB for a while, too.
Straight outta Homer Simpson's play book; "It was like that when I found it, I'm new here, Its (insert whippin' boy's name here) fault".
I voted for "W" twice 'cause he was better than the alternatives. So did enough other people, including Supreme Court Justices, for him to win.
And why would you wish a depression on the country? So your new boy can be the "golden one"? The economy is cyclic...deal with it!
When the Rooskies invade their former satellites, will you and PBO stand on the sidelines cheering? When Venezuala uses Persian weapons to destabilize South/Central America will you and PBO blame Israel? or will you wring your hands and blame that SOB "W"? When the price of gas goes back up will you insist that PBO is in bed with the Arabs or was that just "W"?
I wish PBO the very best of luck with smooth seas, sunny days, warm nights, and a strong crew.
BTW, I've yet to read where any of ya'll are braggin' 'bout PBO and his new policies...is that 'cause you don't know of any? or 'cause he hasn't spoken them into existance? or 'cause its easier to bash the Bush!
CC
So it's none of Bushs' fault who has been president for the last 8 years and inherited the healthiest economy of modern times, and it's all Obamas fault... who's not even President yet??
It is credible to critique a past administration. It's hilarious to watch someone critique an administration that's not even an administration yet.
Umm... yep. You're a real credible guy. :D

[donzi5150]

Just so we're clear...You're gonna blame Bush for all the hard times, bad decisions, unintended consequences etc that we're gonna experience during PBO's term(s).
Thank God you have "W"...otherwise you'd have to accept some responsibilty for your own circumstances....Will you do the same for PBO? or is it all gonna be rainbows, lollipops and sunshine?
I think I'm beginning to get a handle on liberalism. All my problems are somebody else's fault...what about my successes? May I claim them or do I share them, as well?
FDR and the national media blamed Hoover for 12 years! BC blamed GHWB for a while, too.
Straight outta Homer Simpson's play book; "It was like that when I found it, I'm new here, Its (insert whippin' boy's name here) fault".
I voted for "W" twice 'cause he was better than the alternatives. So did enough other people, including Supreme Court Justices, for him to win.
And why would you wish a depression on the country? So your new boy can be the "golden one"? The economy is cyclic...deal with it!
When the Rooskies invade their former satellites, will you and PBO stand on the sidelines cheering? When Venezuala uses Persian weapons to destabilize South/Central America will you and PBO blame Israel? or will you wring your hands and blame that SOB "W"? When the price of gas goes back up will you insist that PBO is in bed with the Arabs or was that just "W"?
I wish PBO the very best of luck with smooth seas, sunny days, warm nights, and a strong crew.
BTW, I've yet to read where any of ya'll are braggin' 'bout PBO and his new policies...is that 'cause you don't know of any? or 'cause he hasn't spoken them into existance? or 'cause its easier to bash the Bush!
CC
Um, you know, the, um, policies, um, I have are, um, what? oh yeah, they are, um, the opposite of what, um, President, um, Bush, said and, um, did.
Barry

[donzi5150]

So it's none of Bushs' fault who has been president for the last 8 years and inherited the healthiest economy of modern times, and it's all Obamas fault... who's not even President yet??
It is credible to critique a past administration. It's hilarious to watch someone critique an administration that's not even an administration yet.
Umm... yep. You're a real credible guy. :D
Bush inherited a recession and had 52 months of continuous growth...unemployment was at some of the lowest ever and Barney Frank had some of the lowest interest rates that unfortunately Bush went along with some..........X, I think someone lit your bag on fire by someones door and they have Shit all over their foot!:jawdrop: