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Knotbad
11-06-2008, 09:09 PM
Sums the whole process up very well;
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/11/05-0

thatguy
12-06-2008, 08:03 AM
I took the liberty of summarizing it for you!
"Pandering, voter influencing, and deception."
Your welcome!

centerhill condor
12-06-2008, 06:37 PM
the brilliance of Obama's political identity is a blank slate. His voters where able to put their views on him for their convenience...since there is no record to contradict.
This will be the "change" everybody seeks.
CC

Blown 472
12-06-2008, 06:41 PM
I took the liberty of summarizing it for you!
"Pandering, voter influencing, and deception."
Your welcome!
It is great the repulicans are such a pure and honest group.:rolleyes:

thatguy
12-06-2008, 09:00 PM
It is great the repulicans are such a pure and honest group.:rolleyes:
I never said they were.
It sounds like you are agreeing with my analysis, and basically saying he is justified since republicans are dishonest also?
Thank you for validating my opinion.

1978 Rogers
12-08-2008, 10:57 AM
Have you seen the latest story on Yahoo, "Liberals Voice Concerns"? It sounds like Obama isn't going to be keeping all the promises he made before the election. Its great how once in office, campaign promises become history. LOL. Wasn't the saying "Time for Change"? :D
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20081208/pl_politico/16292

Blown 472
12-08-2008, 06:43 PM
I never said they were.
It sounds like you are agreeing with my analysis, and basically saying he is justified since republicans are dishonest also?
Thank you for validating my opinion.
They are all dishonest and dont give a **** about the people that put them in office.

thatguy
12-09-2008, 05:17 AM
They are all dishonest and dont give a **** about the people that put them in office.
AT last! We find common ground.
Although, I am of the opinion that Obama took it to a whole new level.
Reagan DID care, a lot. And believe it or not, so did GB IMO. He just didn't know how to implement it.

donzi5150
12-09-2008, 10:36 AM
Copied from the affidavit for arrrest:
ROD BLAGOJEVICH asked what he can get from the President-elect
for the Senate seat. ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated that Governor General Counsel believes
the President-elect can get ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife on paid corporate boards in
exchange for naming the President-elect’s pick to the Senate. Governor General Counsel
asked, “can [the President-elect] help in the private sector. . . where it wouldn’t be tied to
him? . . .I mean, so it wouldn’t necessarily look like one for the other.”
No here is my question....Why does the council and Governor so openly assume that Obama will do this? Could it be that Obama is from this corrupt political system and there is precedent in the past of his involvement in Pay to Play Politics in Illinois.........Rezko is named through out this document.....Obama gave millions to Ayers programs......Wife got on boards and was given high paying jobs because of her husband.....does any one see a pattern? I also heard that there are rumblings in the Chicago media that there are direct connections to Obama.......we will see.......

Blown 472
12-09-2008, 11:14 AM
Copied from the affidavit for arrrest:
ROD BLAGOJEVICH asked what he can get from the President-elect
for the Senate seat. ROD BLAGOJEVICH stated that Governor General Counsel believes
the President-elect can get ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s wife on paid corporate boards in
exchange for naming the President-elect’s pick to the Senate. Governor General Counsel
asked, “can [the President-elect] help in the private sector. . . where it wouldn’t be tied to
him? . . .I mean, so it wouldn’t necessarily look like one for the other.”
No here is my question....Why does the council and Governor so openly assume that Obama will do this? Could it be that Obama is from this corrupt political system and there is precedent in the past of his involvement in Pay to Play Politics in Illinois.........Rezko is named through out this document.....Obama gave millions to Ayers programs......Wife got on boards and was given high paying jobs because of her husband.....does any one see a pattern? I also heard that there are rumblings in the Chicago media that there are direct connections to Obama.......we will see.......
Does it really matter? israel is pulling his puppet strings just like they did with gdumbya.

thatguy
12-09-2008, 01:04 PM
Does it really matter? israel is pulling his puppet strings just like they did with gdumbya.
Um........wow.
Yes, it matters.
No wonder feds don't care about Barrys' birth certificate, they have a lot bigger pan to fry in with this.
awesome.

donzi5150
12-09-2008, 01:33 PM
Does it really matter? israel is pulling his puppet strings just like they did with gdumbya.
Where you ever in prison and your celly was a big Jewish Gay man who raped you repeatedly? Is everything a Jewish thing or is it something else? Can I just call you Adolf for short?:jawdrop:

Blown 472
12-09-2008, 02:22 PM
Where you ever in prison and your celly was a big Jewish Gay man who raped you repeatedly? Is everything a Jewish thing or is it something else? Can I just call you Adolf for short?:jawdrop:
If you like, who is the first guy obama grabed to be with him? why do the jews put a hugh manora in front of the white house, why did obama and mcain go to israel and kiss a wall? do you really live with your head in the sand?

centerhill condor
12-09-2008, 02:38 PM
It sounds like Obama isn't going to be keeping all the promises he made before the election. :D
what promises? could you be specific? I didn't hear anything but platitudes.
Copied from the affidavit for arrest.......
this is the burning of the brown shirts.
CC

thatguy
12-09-2008, 04:56 PM
If you like, who is the first guy obama grabed to be with him? why do the jews put a hugh manora in front of the white house, why did obama and mcain go to israel and kiss a wall? do you really live with your head in the sand?
I'm confused, aren't you an Obama supporter?
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought you voted for this so called "Jew puppet"?
If not, i apologize for offending.

donzi5150
12-09-2008, 04:57 PM
If you like, who is the first guy obama grabed to be with him? why do the jews put a hugh manora in front of the white house, why did obama and mcain go to israel and kiss a wall? do you really live with your head in the sand?
Why does the Governmental Building in Washington State have an Atheist Decree next to the Nativity scene? Will Detroit win a football game this year? Should I buy a new truck? I don't see the conspiracy you spout....I see respect toward a nation that many other countries would wipe off the face of the earth and if you read your bible one day, the end of times will be when all countries will stand up against the Jewish people.....it looks like America will probably be the last........

Blown 472
12-09-2008, 05:13 PM
Why does the Governmental Building in Washington State have an Atheist Decree next to the Nativity scene? Will Detroit win a football game this year? Should I buy a new truck? I don't see the conspiracy you spout....I see respect toward a nation that many other countries would wipe off the face of the earth and if you read your bible one day, the end of times will be when all countries will stand up against the Jewish people.....it looks like America will probably be the last........
Cuz we are a stupid people that live via our tv's.
Why do you respect them???

donzi5150
12-10-2008, 08:58 AM
Cuz we are a stupid people that live via our tv's.
Why do you respect them???
I respect all people till they prove me wrong individually......I watch a lot of TV/News but I bas a lot of my ideas on my experiencs and knowledge.....I was blessed with being in the Military and traviling all over the world. I made friends with peolple in many counties and dated beautiful women fram many of those same countries. I listened, talked, watched, and heard which I feel give me a huge heads up on many people.........Does not mean I am right all the time, I am just informed. I have many jewish frinds and have served with many and would trust my life and my families life with them as well as blacks, Mexicans, Germans, Irash, etc......there are bad people in all backgrounds as well as good. So in short I don't lump everyone together, I judge on the individual bases except when it comes to Radical Islam and other groups of people who have a common goal to destroy us and ouy allies to include Iseral. Besides, I don't think many other countries have the Balls to take on Iran other than Iseral....thay have a tough militray when let loose!

Blown 472
12-10-2008, 09:34 AM
I respect all people till they prove me wrong individually......I watch a lot of TV/News but I bas a lot of my ideas on my experiencs and knowledge.....I was blessed with being in the Military and traviling all over the world. I made friends with peolple in many counties and dated beautiful women fram many of those same countries. I listened, talked, watched, and heard which I feel give me a huge heads up on many people.........Does not mean I am right all the time, I am just informed. I have many jewish frinds and have served with many and would trust my life and my families life with them as well as blacks, Mexicans, Germans, Irash, etc......there are bad people in all backgrounds as well as good. So in short I don't lump everyone together, I judge on the individual bases except when it comes to Radical Islam and other groups of people who have a common goal to destroy us and ouy allies to include Iseral. Besides, I don't think many other countries have the Balls to take on Iran other than Iseral....thay have a tough militray when let loose!
So you dont know any arabs then?

donzi5150
12-10-2008, 12:14 PM
Yes, but not all or most subscribe to Radical Islam..........

Blown 472
12-10-2008, 12:30 PM
Yes, but not all or most subscribe to Radical Islam..........
Have you ever had a talk with them about israel?

Blown 472
12-11-2008, 04:54 AM
Pictured at left, Avrohom Mondrowitz who fled the US for Israel at the urging of haredi leaders as he was being indicted for raping young boys.
Pedophilia ‘Rampant’ In Orthodox Judaism
By Rev. Ted Pike
From its founding by the ancient Pharisees and still today, Orthodox Judaism is Judaism. [1] The state of Israel officially endorses Orthodoxy. For 2,000 years—since before such relatively recent variants as Conservative and Reform Judaism branched off—Talmud-believing Orthodox Judaism has been the spiritual center of gravity of the Jewish people. [2]
Now the Associated Press reports that the Orthodox Jewish community struggles to contain what has been a closely guarded secret: pedophilia. [3] AP says that, especially in areas most populated by Orthodox Jews (such as New York where 37 percent of Jews are Orthodox), widespread sexual molestation of children can no longer be denied. Yet “initiatives encouraging victims to come forward or offering support for those claiming they were molested encounter strong opposition, lead to death-threats in the Jewish community…”
In a previous e-alert, “Pedophilia: Thriving in Judaism’s Right Wing” [4], I related how an Orthodox Jew, Dov Hikind, a Brooklyn assemblyman, is attempting to address what AP calls “a taboo subject” among the Orthodox.
Since Hikind broached the subject on his radio show this summer, “dozens of people have come forward with stories about children being molested in the Orthodox community which strictly follows Jewish law…Dov Hikind says as many as four people a day have come to him over the past three months with painful accounts of secrets often kept for decades, accusing more than sixty individuals.”
Yet the assemblyman and radio host faces increasing opposition from many Orthodox Jews who practice pedophilia, condone it, or look the other way. “His campaign has set off a firestorm in the Orthodox community, where people are reluctant to involve secular authorities. One rabbi said he got death threats for speaking out.” Hikind said:”In our community, people don’t talk about the things they’ve come to my office and revealed.” He said he encourages people who confide in him to talk to Jewish authorities. But none will, he said, for fear of ostracism.
“One rabbi and psychologist told Jewish media outlets he was hounded into quitting a task force on child molestation days after Hikind appointed him to lead it…Another New York rabbi told the Daily News this month that vicious fliers and death threat calls scared him into shutting down a sex abuse victims hot-line he had set up.”
Six former students are suing an Orthodox school in New York for allegedly covering up the abuse of Rabbi Yehuda Kolkol, charged with sexually molesting boys. He pled guilty to a lesser charge and was put on probation. Hikind has been subpoenaed to testify as to further evidence against Kolkol or other school staffers. [5] Michael Daud, lawyer for the six students, won $11.4 million in damages against a Catholic youth minister who raped two teens on Long Island. With an initial 60 cases of pedophilia emerging, Daud could win similar restitution through judgments against persons in the wealthy Brooklyn Orthodox community.
Why Do They Do It?
Actually, the existence of pedophilia is not Orthodoxy’s best kept secret. What truly cannot be uttered by the Jewish community or media worldwide is that the Talmud, Judaism’s highest legal authority, encourages pedophilia. If this fact became widely known, it could destroy Judaism as one of the world’s great religions. It would confirm millennia of “anti-Semitic” accusations (beginning with Jesus’ incendiary attacks on the Pharisees) that pharisaic Judaism is based on gutter values.
In my article “Pedophilia: the Talmud’s Dirty Secret” [6] I document that the greatest Talmudic sages repeatedly upheld the right of Jewish men to marry 3-year-old baby girls by having sex with them. The more Orthodox Judaism is, the more literally it follows every dictum of such rabbinic authorities. Shockingly, one of the most revered rabbis of the Talmud, Simeon ben Yohai, asserts “that a proselyte under the age of three years and one day may be married to a priest.” [7]
The Talmud says ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia is “halachah,” binding Jewish law (Yebamoth 60b).
Pedophilia in Israel Today
In a related story, YnetNews.com says that in Israel, “in spite of efforts by welfare officials, local rabbis, state authorities are unable to curb rampant child abuse in ultra-Orthodox families.”
It says there emerges “One harrowing case after another, yet welfare officials stand by helpless: faced with a string of heart-wrenching cases of child abuse in the haredi [ultra-Orthodox]…”
“One recent disturbing case, for instance, in which a Netivot mother had sexually abused her son, only came to light when the son began attending boarding school and molested a fellow pupil. The social workers who handled his case quickly realized that the child had no idea that what he had done was wrong.” [8]
Incredibly, this, too, is sanctioned by the Talmud. In my article “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Marriage Made in Hell” [9], I document the Talmud’s repeated permission for women to have sex with boys under age nine. It says such relations are non-sexual and without moral implications. Sanhedrin 69b asserts that “if a woman sported lewdly with her young son [a minor], and he committed the first stage of cohabitation with her [penetration],” –the rabbinic school of the great Hillel (namesake of New York’s Jewish Hillel Theological Seminary) declared her “fit for the priesthood” (Sanhedrin 69b).
The Talmud gives the clear impression that boys under age nine are fair game for sexual predation by women and even men. Such passages are not obscure, infrequent, or difficult to find. They are readily encountered in perusal of Talmudic treatises Kethuboth, Yebamoth, and Sanhedrin.
The extreme devotion of Orthodox Jews to obedience to every jot and tittle of the Talmud powerfully inclines us to suspect that Talmudic sanction of pedophilia may underlie the problem of pedophilia in Judaism today.
Is There a Solution?
What can be done? Unlike pedophilia among Catholic priests—which largely results from unnatural repression of human need and is sternly disapproved by the Catholic Church—pedophilia in Judaism enjoys frequent, conspicuous, and enthusiastic support from Judaism’s greatest authority, the Talmud. No rabbinate would dare excise its pro-pedophilia passages. These shocking dictums are inextricably linked not only to the infinitely complex and tortuous legal arguments of Talmudic rabbis but also to the authority of its greatest sages. Every year in Israel, tens of thousands of Orthodox Jews gather in Meron, the birthplace of Simeon ben Yohai, to feast, dance and sing for three days in honor of his memory. Yet as I stated earlier, ben Yohai is the Talmud’s most influential promoter of pedophilia!
The rapidly growing power of ultra-Orthodox in Israel makes it unlikely that they will be lectured out of indulgence in pedophilia. Jewish social reformers and welfare workers confirm the difficulty, even physical danger, of such a task. Orthodox Judaism is now ascendant in its legalistic rectitude after two centuries of permissive Jewish religious experimentation (which they claim has resulted in worldliness and assimilation); its leaders are in no mood to weaken Talmudic authority.
More than 2,000 years ago, pedophilia was encouraged by the Pharisaic school of Hillel. It will be around for a long time to come. It is part of that state of “all uncleanness” that Christ said is intrinsic to Pharisaism (Matt. 23:27). It will endure until that day when Christ at last obtains a pure and repentant remnant of believing Jews out of the destruction of “the great harlot,” international Jewish control (Rev. 18). Then, Scripture promises, He “will have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion” (Is.4:4).
Until that time, the prophet Isaiah still cries out from God, “Oh my people, they which lead thee, cause thee to err…” (Isaiah 3:12)
Endnotes:
1. “The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent without a break through all the centuries from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single piece of that literature… and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism.” (The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, article on Judaism, p. 474.)
2. Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Judaism, especially in New York and Israel, is commonly referred to as “Orthodox” by the Jewish community.
3. “US Child Sex Abuse Claims Divide Orthodox Community,” www.ynetnews.com, Nov. 24, 2008.
4. “Pedophilia: Thriving in Judaism’s Right Wing,” www.truthtellers.org, Oct. 23, 2008
5. Hikind’s response to Orthodox child abuse elicits sharp criticism from a former Orthodox Jew. Failed Messiah is written by ex-observantly Orthodox Jew Shmarya Rosenberg; his blog has made him one of Forward’s top 50 most influential Jews of 2008. Rosenberg began his blog as an observant Orthodox Jew but when his criticisms of Orthodox criminal activity “got him into hot water with the local Orthodox Jewish community, Rosenberg chose his blog and left his observance behind.” His index of blog posts includes over 700 entries about Orthodox crime.
In his blog, Rosenberg summarizes shocking research on rabbinic sexual abuse of children. He provides links to the case of an “alleged haredi child rapist [Avrohom Mondrowitz]“ who “fled the US for Israel at the urging of haredi leaders as he was being indicted for raping young boys. He lived safely in Jerusalem for over 20 years, under the protection of the Ger Hasidic community and its rebbes…”
Regarding the Kolko case, Rosenberg criticizes Hikind for wanting Brooklyn rabbis to deal with the problem and vowing to face jail rather than divulge victims’ names. “Many of these same rabbis have known about some of this evidence for years. Indeed, some of them have actively covered it up. Hikind is, in effect, asking criminals to help him protect the victims they hurt,” says Rosenberg.
He is also critical because Hikind wants rapists, “who are often rabbis, rebbes, and yeshiva teachers,” penalized by the religious community not the secular criminal justice system. “This means no sex offender registry for Hikind’s abusers. No closely supervised release. No sharing of information across neighborhoods and across countries. An abuser can simply skip Brooklyn for Israel (or for St. Louis, for that matter) and start abusing all over again.”
Rosenberg says Hikind’s reluctance to submit Jewish rapists to secular authority is horrifying. A child abuser may be set aside as psychopathic, conscience-dead, or a victim of abuse himself. But Hikind, according to Rosenberg, as a New York assemblyman, talk radio host, father, and leader in the Orthodox community, is not living up to his responsibilities; his personal response to the haredi abuses—refusal to actively aid secular prosecution—reveals volumes about the extent of participation in pedophilia in the Orthodox community and the power of influential Jewish pedophiles to silence opposition.
6. “Pedophilia: the Talmud’s Dirty Secret,” www.truthtellers.org, Oct. 11, 2006.
7. This summary of Ben Yohai’s position is found in footnote 13, page 321, Yebamoth 60b of the Soncino translation of the Babylonian Talmud. (The Babylonian Talmud, translated by rabbi Dr. I. Epstein, The Soncino Press, London)
8. “State Helpless in Face of Skeleton in Haridi Closet,” www.ynetnews.com, Apr. 3, 2008.
9. “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Marriage Made in Hell,” www.truthtellers.org, Sept. 22, 2006.

donzi5150
12-11-2008, 08:54 AM
Pictured at left, Avrohom Mondrowitz who fled the US for Israel at the urging of haredi leaders as he was being indicted for raping young boys.
Pedophilia ‘Rampant’ In Orthodox Judaism
By Rev. Ted Pike
From its founding by the ancient Pharisees and still today, Orthodox Judaism is Judaism. [1] The state of Israel officially endorses Orthodoxy. For 2,000 years—since before such relatively recent variants as Conservative and Reform Judaism branched off—Talmud-believing Orthodox Judaism has been the spiritual center of gravity of the Jewish people. [2]
Now the Associated Press reports that the Orthodox Jewish community struggles to contain what has been a closely guarded secret: pedophilia. [3] AP says that, especially in areas most populated by Orthodox Jews (such as New York where 37 percent of Jews are Orthodox), widespread sexual molestation of children can no longer be denied. Yet “initiatives encouraging victims to come forward or offering support for those claiming they were molested encounter strong opposition, lead to death-threats in the Jewish community…”
In a previous e-alert, “Pedophilia: Thriving in Judaism’s Right Wing” [4], I related how an Orthodox Jew, Dov Hikind, a Brooklyn assemblyman, is attempting to address what AP calls “a taboo subject” among the Orthodox.
Since Hikind broached the subject on his radio show this summer, “dozens of people have come forward with stories about children being molested in the Orthodox community which strictly follows Jewish law…Dov Hikind says as many as four people a day have come to him over the past three months with painful accounts of secrets often kept for decades, accusing more than sixty individuals.”
Yet the assemblyman and radio host faces increasing opposition from many Orthodox Jews who practice pedophilia, condone it, or look the other way. “His campaign has set off a firestorm in the Orthodox community, where people are reluctant to involve secular authorities. One rabbi said he got death threats for speaking out.” Hikind said:”In our community, people don’t talk about the things they’ve come to my office and revealed.” He said he encourages people who confide in him to talk to Jewish authorities. But none will, he said, for fear of ostracism.
“One rabbi and psychologist told Jewish media outlets he was hounded into quitting a task force on child molestation days after Hikind appointed him to lead it…Another New York rabbi told the Daily News this month that vicious fliers and death threat calls scared him into shutting down a sex abuse victims hot-line he had set up.”
Six former students are suing an Orthodox school in New York for allegedly covering up the abuse of Rabbi Yehuda Kolkol, charged with sexually molesting boys. He pled guilty to a lesser charge and was put on probation. Hikind has been subpoenaed to testify as to further evidence against Kolkol or other school staffers. [5] Michael Daud, lawyer for the six students, won $11.4 million in damages against a Catholic youth minister who raped two teens on Long Island. With an initial 60 cases of pedophilia emerging, Daud could win similar restitution through judgments against persons in the wealthy Brooklyn Orthodox community.
Why Do They Do It?
Actually, the existence of pedophilia is not Orthodoxy’s best kept secret. What truly cannot be uttered by the Jewish community or media worldwide is that the Talmud, Judaism’s highest legal authority, encourages pedophilia. If this fact became widely known, it could destroy Judaism as one of the world’s great religions. It would confirm millennia of “anti-Semitic” accusations (beginning with Jesus’ incendiary attacks on the Pharisees) that pharisaic Judaism is based on gutter values.
In my article “Pedophilia: the Talmud’s Dirty Secret” [6] I document that the greatest Talmudic sages repeatedly upheld the right of Jewish men to marry 3-year-old baby girls by having sex with them. The more Orthodox Judaism is, the more literally it follows every dictum of such rabbinic authorities. Shockingly, one of the most revered rabbis of the Talmud, Simeon ben Yohai, asserts “that a proselyte under the age of three years and one day may be married to a priest.” [7]
The Talmud says ben Yohai’s endorsement of pedophilia is “halachah,” binding Jewish law (Yebamoth 60b).
Pedophilia in Israel Today
In a related story, YnetNews.com says that in Israel, “in spite of efforts by welfare officials, local rabbis, state authorities are unable to curb rampant child abuse in ultra-Orthodox families.”
It says there emerges “One harrowing case after another, yet welfare officials stand by helpless: faced with a string of heart-wrenching cases of child abuse in the haredi [ultra-Orthodox]…”
“One recent disturbing case, for instance, in which a Netivot mother had sexually abused her son, only came to light when the son began attending boarding school and molested a fellow pupil. The social workers who handled his case quickly realized that the child had no idea that what he had done was wrong.” [8]
Incredibly, this, too, is sanctioned by the Talmud. In my article “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Marriage Made in Hell” [9], I document the Talmud’s repeated permission for women to have sex with boys under age nine. It says such relations are non-sexual and without moral implications. Sanhedrin 69b asserts that “if a woman sported lewdly with her young son [a minor], and he committed the first stage of cohabitation with her [penetration],” –the rabbinic school of the great Hillel (namesake of New York’s Jewish Hillel Theological Seminary) declared her “fit for the priesthood” (Sanhedrin 69b).
The Talmud gives the clear impression that boys under age nine are fair game for sexual predation by women and even men. Such passages are not obscure, infrequent, or difficult to find. They are readily encountered in perusal of Talmudic treatises Kethuboth, Yebamoth, and Sanhedrin.
The extreme devotion of Orthodox Jews to obedience to every jot and tittle of the Talmud powerfully inclines us to suspect that Talmudic sanction of pedophilia may underlie the problem of pedophilia in Judaism today.
Is There a Solution?
What can be done? Unlike pedophilia among Catholic priests—which largely results from unnatural repression of human need and is sternly disapproved by the Catholic Church—pedophilia in Judaism enjoys frequent, conspicuous, and enthusiastic support from Judaism’s greatest authority, the Talmud. No rabbinate would dare excise its pro-pedophilia passages. These shocking dictums are inextricably linked not only to the infinitely complex and tortuous legal arguments of Talmudic rabbis but also to the authority of its greatest sages. Every year in Israel, tens of thousands of Orthodox Jews gather in Meron, the birthplace of Simeon ben Yohai, to feast, dance and sing for three days in honor of his memory. Yet as I stated earlier, ben Yohai is the Talmud’s most influential promoter of pedophilia!
The rapidly growing power of ultra-Orthodox in Israel makes it unlikely that they will be lectured out of indulgence in pedophilia. Jewish social reformers and welfare workers confirm the difficulty, even physical danger, of such a task. Orthodox Judaism is now ascendant in its legalistic rectitude after two centuries of permissive Jewish religious experimentation (which they claim has resulted in worldliness and assimilation); its leaders are in no mood to weaken Talmudic authority.
More than 2,000 years ago, pedophilia was encouraged by the Pharisaic school of Hillel. It will be around for a long time to come. It is part of that state of “all uncleanness” that Christ said is intrinsic to Pharisaism (Matt. 23:27). It will endure until that day when Christ at last obtains a pure and repentant remnant of believing Jews out of the destruction of “the great harlot,” international Jewish control (Rev. 18). Then, Scripture promises, He “will have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion” (Is.4:4).
Until that time, the prophet Isaiah still cries out from God, “Oh my people, they which lead thee, cause thee to err…” (Isaiah 3:12)
Endnotes:
1. “The Jewish religion as it is today traces its descent without a break through all the centuries from the Pharisees. Their leading ideas and methods found expression in a literature of enormous extent, of which a very great deal is still in existence. The Talmud is the largest and most important single piece of that literature… and the study of it is essential for any real understanding of Pharisaism.” (The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, article on Judaism, p. 474.)
2. Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Judaism, especially in New York and Israel, is commonly referred to as “Orthodox” by the Jewish community.
3. “US Child Sex Abuse Claims Divide Orthodox Community,” www.ynetnews.com, Nov. 24, 2008.
4. “Pedophilia: Thriving in Judaism’s Right Wing,” www.truthtellers.org, Oct. 23, 2008
5. Hikind’s response to Orthodox child abuse elicits sharp criticism from a former Orthodox Jew. Failed Messiah is written by ex-observantly Orthodox Jew Shmarya Rosenberg; his blog has made him one of Forward’s top 50 most influential Jews of 2008. Rosenberg began his blog as an observant Orthodox Jew but when his criticisms of Orthodox criminal activity “got him into hot water with the local Orthodox Jewish community, Rosenberg chose his blog and left his observance behind.” His index of blog posts includes over 700 entries about Orthodox crime.
In his blog, Rosenberg summarizes shocking research on rabbinic sexual abuse of children. He provides links to the case of an “alleged haredi child rapist [Avrohom Mondrowitz]“ who “fled the US for Israel at the urging of haredi leaders as he was being indicted for raping young boys. He lived safely in Jerusalem for over 20 years, under the protection of the Ger Hasidic community and its rebbes…”
Regarding the Kolko case, Rosenberg criticizes Hikind for wanting Brooklyn rabbis to deal with the problem and vowing to face jail rather than divulge victims’ names. “Many of these same rabbis have known about some of this evidence for years. Indeed, some of them have actively covered it up. Hikind is, in effect, asking criminals to help him protect the victims they hurt,” says Rosenberg.
He is also critical because Hikind wants rapists, “who are often rabbis, rebbes, and yeshiva teachers,” penalized by the religious community not the secular criminal justice system. “This means no sex offender registry for Hikind’s abusers. No closely supervised release. No sharing of information across neighborhoods and across countries. An abuser can simply skip Brooklyn for Israel (or for St. Louis, for that matter) and start abusing all over again.”
Rosenberg says Hikind’s reluctance to submit Jewish rapists to secular authority is horrifying. A child abuser may be set aside as psychopathic, conscience-dead, or a victim of abuse himself. But Hikind, according to Rosenberg, as a New York assemblyman, talk radio host, father, and leader in the Orthodox community, is not living up to his responsibilities; his personal response to the haredi abuses—refusal to actively aid secular prosecution—reveals volumes about the extent of participation in pedophilia in the Orthodox community and the power of influential Jewish pedophiles to silence opposition.
6. “Pedophilia: the Talmud’s Dirty Secret,” www.truthtellers.org, Oct. 11, 2006.
7. This summary of Ben Yohai’s position is found in footnote 13, page 321, Yebamoth 60b of the Soncino translation of the Babylonian Talmud. (The Babylonian Talmud, translated by rabbi Dr. I. Epstein, The Soncino Press, London)
8. “State Helpless in Face of Skeleton in Haridi Closet,” www.ynetnews.com, Apr. 3, 2008.
9. “Judaism and Homosexuality: A Marriage Made in Hell,” www.truthtellers.org, Sept. 22, 2006.
So are you implying that all Jews buy into this? That would be like all black men married to white women will murder them like OJ did..........I understand and I think most understad this is a problem much like the Catholic Priests had for years but it does not make all guilty.

Sundance
12-11-2008, 03:32 PM
donzi, you bring so much sense to these arguments. I'll through one more out that will get him started.
My daughter told me that the passage of Prop 8 in Claifornia was all do to the Mormans. So let's bash them for a while. It's passage had nothing to do with the Christan right or the Catholic Church?
Why do we always have to find a group or religion to blame?
Basiclly, people are nothing but a bunch of "thumb sucking gerbiles".

Blown 472
12-11-2008, 07:24 PM
So are you implying that all Jews buy into this? That would be like all black men married to white women will murder them like OJ did..........I understand and I think most understad this is a problem much like the Catholic Priests had for years but it does not make all guilty.
Not all but if you look into what israel does it is pretty discusting, worlds biggest trafficer is sex trade, worlds biggest x trafficer, and so on and so on, to just openly respect them without looking into them is just silly.

Blown 472
12-11-2008, 07:26 PM
donzi, you bring so much sense to these arguments. I'll through one more out that will get him started.
My daughter told me that the passage of Prop 8 in Claifornia was all do to the Mormans. So let's bash them for a while. It's passage had nothing to do with the Christan right or the Catholic Church?
Why do we always have to find a group or religion to blame?
Basiclly, people are nothing but a bunch of "thumb sucking gerbiles".
religion is opiate for the masses

centerhill condor
12-12-2008, 07:26 AM
if you look into what israel does it is pretty discusting, worlds biggest trafficer is sex trade, worlds biggest x trafficer, and so on and so on.
I've read this before in an older text...Mein Kampf and the author used these as justification to re-unify Austria and liberate the "good races" from this vermin.
CC

Blown 472
12-12-2008, 02:54 PM
I've read this before in an older text...Mein Kampf and the author used these as justification to re-unify Austria and liberate the "good races" from this vermin.
CC
Whatever, someday you will pull your head out, probably too late but whatever have a happy life.

donzi5150
12-13-2008, 11:04 AM
Not all but if you look into what israel does it is pretty discusting, worlds biggest trafficer is sex trade, worlds biggest x trafficer, and so on and so on, to just openly respect them without looking into them is just silly.
You are starting to sound more like Barry's pastor Rev. Wright.....are you implying that the Govt. of Israel sanctions and supports what you claim or is it bad group of people?.....that's like saying cocaine is from Colombia and is sanctioned by the Govt. or in Barry's case that the American Govt. invented AIDS or Crack to kill off the black man...........there are bad people from every economic, social, religious, color, cultural, gender, background etc. and one illegal immoral act is not controlled by one group!

Blown 472
12-13-2008, 06:52 PM
You are starting to sound more like Barry's pastor Rev. Wright.....are you implying that the Govt. of Israel sanctions and supports what you claim or is it bad group of people?.....that's like saying cocaine is from Colombia and is sanctioned by the Govt. or in Barry's case that the American Govt. invented AIDS or Crack to kill off the black man...........there are bad people from every economic, social, religious, color, cultural, gender, background etc. and one illegal immoral act is not controlled by one group!
You are right, he doesn't do shit, other then practice genocide on gaza but what tha **** they are just a bunch of ****ing towel heads anyway right?

Blown 472
12-16-2008, 08:17 PM
Israel’s Terror Rampage
By Dr. Elias Akleh
December 15, 2008 ""Information Clearinghouse"" -- If anybody is still having any doubt that Israel (government and citizens) is a terrorist state par excellence then the latest events during the last two months alone in occupied Palestine should convince him of this fact. For the last two year the Israeli government has been tightening its deadly siege against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip. The Israeli army had violated the latest seize-fire agreement with its military raids into and bombardment of the Strip. The latest closure of Gaza, the tightest ever, is starving its 1.5 million Palestinians, depriving them of drinking water, and necessary fuel to keep their daily operations going. The Israeli government is conducting a meditative mass murder operation against Gaza residents while the whole world is silently and complicity watching and the American media is distorting the facts. (Watch the facts in Gaza).
Similar to their government, and adopting its ethnic cleansing policies, Israeli citizens, especially the extreme fundamentalist religious Jews, have been, since the establishment of the Israeli state in 1948, attacking the Palestinian indigenous landowners, forcefully and collectively occupying Palestinian homes and evicting the owners out, murdering whole family members, burning their fields, poisoning their water wells, shooting their farm animals, totally razing whole Palestinian towns, and building their own colonies on top of their ruins. Encouraged by the American unconditional support and by the UN silence, armed and financed by the fundamentalist extreme religious Shas and Yisrael Beitenu Parliamentary Parties, and brainwashed by extremist Yishuv Rabbis, the Israeli settlers (terrorists) had escalated their terror attacks against Palestinians throughout whole Palestine; in the 1948 occupied Palestine and in the West Bank.
Last October extremist religious Jewish residents of the Palestinian city of Akka (Acre), who were forcefully implanted in the old town in the middle of Palestinian residents and in the suburbs around the city, had perpetrated a wave of attack against their Palestinian neighbors, fired at them with automatic weapons, and set fire to some Palestinian homes. All this was happening under the sight and protection of Israeli police and soldiers, who arrested any Palestinian trying to protect his home. Watch their terror in Akka here.
The most dangerous Israeli terrorists are those religious extremist colonizers (settlers) in and around the West Bank Palestinian city of AL-Khalil (Hebron). Some well-armed 500 – 600 extremists and Yeshiva (religious school) students had forcefully occupied a couple of buildings in the heart of Hebron city where about 200,000 Palestinians live. These terrorists are protected by thousands of heavily armed Israeli soldiers 24 hours a day. To guarantee their freedom of movement large parts of the town are made off-limit to Palestinians. Many other religiously fanatic Israeli terrorist had confiscated large areas of farm land around the city and built their own colony called Kiryat Arba.
The majority of the Israeli colonizers in the Occupied West Bank are followers of the teachings of the religiously extremist Rabbi Abraham Kook, considered the first Rabbi of Israel. He teaches that the Jews should hasten the coming of their awaited for Messiah through acts violence and bloodshed, permissible and encouraged by the Torah, to cleanse the “Promised Land” from all Goyims (non-Jews, Palestinians), destroy their homes of worship (AL-Aqsa Muslim Mosque), and to build the third temple for the Messiah to live in.
These teachings are allegedly based on the Talmud and are taught at the Mirkaz Harav; a Judaic religious college in Jerusalem. According to these teachings the Palestinians have three choices: life long total obedient slavery to Israel, complete transfer out of the country, “lest they remain a thorn in your side”, or the Old Testament-style total annihilation. Similar versions of these fanatic teachings are taught to Israeli youth in their elementary and high schools. Throughout the history of Israel, since the birth of Zionism, Israelis had adopted and followed these teachings.
Israeli colonizers in and around Hebron follow these teachings religiously. They sanctify their Sabbaths through violent attacks against Palestinian residents. Every Friday night and Saturday, these terrorist colonizers, accompanied with their children, fully armed and under the protection of the Israeli soldiers, descend on Palestinian neighborhoods, smash their cars, break their windows and throw Molotov bombs in their houses, break into shops and set them ablaze, shoot at every Palestinian they may encounter, vandalize homes, schools and institutions, steal properties, draw racial and hatred graffiti on walls and doors of homes, churches, and mosques,, vandalize Palestinian cemeteries and draw star of David on graves, and provoke Palestinians with hate slogans such as “Death to Arabs”, and “Mohammad is a pig”.
When Jewish cemeteries and temples are vandalized with graffiti, Jew around the world and the Western World cry anti-Semitism, yet when Israeli Jews draw hate graffiti on Palestinian mosques, churches, and cemeteries no body cry anti-Palestinian, anti-Christian, or anti-Muslim.
Such silence and complicity had encouraged the Israeli terrorist to keep attacking Palestinians. In 1994 the Israeli terrorist Baruch Goldstein, encouraged by such silence, did not hesitate to sneak behind Muslim worshippers in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron and empty his machine gun in the back of Muslim prayers while kneeling in prayer. Last week hundreds of fanatic Yishuv (religious school) students were called on to occupy a Palestinian home in Hebron to stop the police from evicting some armed Israeli settlers, who forcefully occupied the home claiming its purchase. The Israeli High Court found the deeds a forgery and ordered the house evacuated. In response hundreds of Israeli terrorists descended onto several Palestinian cities such as Ramallah, Nablus, Tulkarem, smashing cars and beating Palestinians. In Hebron, itself, Jewish terrorists attacked Palestinian residents, set their homes on fire, and injured many of them. Few days ago some of these armed settlers attacked Palestinian homes and shot some of them point blank. The shooter was released for only one night and was released next morning. To see the shooting incident and many other settlers’ terrorist attacks click here.
Another similar confrontation between Palestinians and extremist settlers seems to be imminent in the Palestinian city of Umm al-Fahm, home to about 45,000 Palestinians. The Jewish National Front, a far-right group closely associated with the Hebron settlers, has acquired a Supreme Court permission to march through the city. The group’s leader Baruch Marzel stated “We will march through Umm al-Fahm with flags to send everyone a message that the Land of Israel belongs to us”. Many of the marchers will carry their guns issued to them as settlers. Such provocation, scheduled for this Monday December 15th, will spark violent confrontation.
Driven by a crazy warmongering prejudiced god, who elevates one group of people over the rest of his creation, and who orders his chosen people to perpetrate a bloody genocidal cleansing of his promised land in order to build him a mundane house to live in, Israeli politicians are ready to do anything in order to accomplish their deluded dream of a pure Jewish Greater Israel, from Nile to Euphrates, without any Christian or Muslim Goyims.
The behaviors of these many Jewish fanatic groups are considered by any official laws and standards of any country in the world as terrorism. For the last sixty years the Palestinians have been faced with organized Jewish terror supported by major political and religious parties in the Israeli parliament. This is a state sponsored terror. It is a government policy that every Israeli leader supports and calls for. Their real intentions and policies become so transparent and apparent during election time, when all of them call for the expulsion of Palestinians. Just listen to what the Israeli Foreign Minister and leader of the ruling Kadima party, Tzipi Livni, addressing a high school students in Tel Aviv and promising that she would “encourage” those they call Israeli Arabs to move out of Israel to the state of Palestine once it is established.
Israel is a terrorist state. Many people recognize it as such. This is apparent in the international solidarity the Palestinians are receiving from all over the world. The international political bodies have yet to acknowledge this fact, and if they don’t one wonder what kind of ethics and morality that drives their sense of justice and freedom they claim they are fighting for.

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12-18-2008, 09:04 AM
George Bush announced in Afghanistan that he had to rush back to a Hanukkah party in the White House. What is Hanukkah or as the Chabad calls it, “Chanukah?”
Hear the David Duke broadcast: Christmas and Hanakkuh: Double Standards for America!
Christmas and Hanukkah: Double Standards for America!
Imagine if a Christian or Muslim group had a celebration in the White House about preventing Jews from assimilating in Gentile society! Yet Hanukkah is a celebration of Jewish military victory and the maintenance of Jewish racial purity!
By David Duke
Last night I saw George Bush rushing back from Afghanistan to light a Jewish Menorah erected in the White House. I stopped for a moment and said to myself, “Something’s wrong with this picture. Isn’t this the same White house, forbidden to erect a cross, or even the traditional manger scene, at Christmastime.
Perhaps nothing is more indicative of the double-standards that exist for Jews and Gentiles than to contrast the government and media treatment of Christmas and Hanukkah. The American Jewish Committee, the ADL and many other groups have been at the forefront to ban any mention of Christmas from our public life. No groups have worked harder to take Christ out of Christmas and Christmas out of our national life. The American Jewish Committee, the Jewish Council of Presidents, American Jewish Congress, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), and hundreds of other Jewish organizations have been at the forefront of the effort to destroy American Christian traditions.
As a result of their litigation and bullying, the Christian part of Christmas has been stripped away from much of our national life. Not only are Christmas carols banned from public schools, but now even the mention of breaks such as the Christmas Holidays is being quietly phased out in favor of politically correct terms such as “winter holidays.” The White House has for a long time not dared to display a cross or even a manger scene for fear of the Jewish powers.. .So take a look at the picture of George Bush lighting a Jewish Menorah at the White House.
You won’t see any pictures of him erecting wooden crosses or lighting any candle-adorned crosses at the White House. Recently major Jewish organizations got raging mad because the structure of the podium of the Republican national convention they say resembled a cross. Of course it is easy for just about anything to resemble the common shape of a basic cross. But just the slight resemblance drove them to rage. When you have a persecution complex as many of them do, it is easy to believe you are being persecuted at every turn.
A Reuter’s news article of Sept 1, 2004 By Mark Egan has these excerpts:
Quote: NEW YORK (Reuters) - Speakers at this week’s Republican convention make their remarks at a wooden podium that some Jewish groups find offensive because its decorative panels appear to form the shape of a Christian cross….Two other Jewish groups interviewed by Reuters expressed similar sentiments…A convention spokesman declined to comment about the podium flap, telling reporters he did not understand why people were asking questions on the issue. President Bush’s chief political strategist, Karl Rove, told CNN he did not think the podium’s decorative woodwork looked like a cross.
“My God, where do they come up with this stuff?” he said. “Does it look to you like it’s a cross? I don’t think so.”
…Separation of church and state is a key issue for U.S. Jewish voters and among the reasons why they typically vote for Democrats… Unquote
Where are the Jews who are so concerned about “separation of Church and State, now that Bush has for the first time in White House history lighted a menorah?
And what exactly is the celebration of Hanukkah that George Bush solemnized at the White House?
Let me quote to you from a typical Jewish account of it. I take this quote from Zipple: the Jewish Supersite. Here are some excerpts:
Quote: That’s not to say that Chanukah isn’t important. After all, the eight-day holiday celebrates the Jewish military victory against the Syrians…, Underlying Chanukah is a theme just as central today as it was 2,000 years ago, the fight against assimilation. Today, just as then, Jews are well accepted; the Maccabees revolted not only against the ruling Syrians, but against the prevailing Jewish practice of Hellenization.
See, Jewish writers define the Hanukkah celebration as one to encourage resistance to assimilation among Gentiles, a battle as vital today as the one that went on 2000 years ago. The word Hellenization is just a substitute word for Americanization. You see, everyone else in the world that comes to America is supposed to be quote, “Americanized, ” everyone of course except the Jews. For them we are supposed to say ‘isn’t it great that they want to maintain their separateness and not merge into the great melting of races and creeds in America!’ Of course melting pots aren’t always what they are cracked up to be. Problem with melting pots is that the bottom often gets burned and the scum usually rises to the top.
Any Gentile who would dare to say that Jews want to remain separate and not truly assimilate into American culture would be labeled an anti-Semite. If that’s true, I guess almost every Jewish organization is quote “anti-Semitic”, because all of them preach against intermarriage and assimilation.
The fact-of-the-matter is that Hanukkah is an extremely ethno-phobic celebration of a Jewish military victory and massacre of the pro-Greek Syrians. While a billion Christians celebrate peace on earth and good will to men, the Hanukkah celebration celebrates annihilation of Jewish enemies. I am not exaggerating in the least bit.
Most of the Jewish holidays are celebrations of massacres of their enemies. Seems odd, doesn’t it, for a religion to revere military victories as their most sacred times.
In fact, the meaning given to Hanukkah by almost all Jewish leaders and scholars is, that Hanukkah symbolizes the resistance of the assimilation of the Jewish people, religion and culture. That in itself is not so bad; all people who want to maintain their traditions, culture and even the heritage of their children, should resist assimilation. By the way, the popular terms today for assimilation of the European-American people with the Third World are multiculturalism and diversity. Somehow those terms are not supposed to apply to Jewish supremacists, for they need to keep themselves pure, and non-assimilated. We are supposed to have our people and culture be assimilated and subsumed, but they are supposed to resist assimilation at all costs.
Any resistance we have to losing our genetic and cultural heritage through assimilation is called chauvinism, intolerance, and ultimately racism, by the media. Jewish resistance to assimilation is called “heroic” and an absolute necessity. Bush trumpeted that he was committed to Israel as a Jewish state. Note, he did not say multicultural state, diverse state, but as an all caps JEWISH state, which of course it is. With three million Palestinians living under an oppressive Israeli military occupation, some even still dare to call Israel the only democracy in the Mideast!
What is so incredibly hypocritical about the whole thing is that the same media that lauds assimilation and diversity for European Americans has no problem with Jews resisting assimilation in the countries in which they dwell. Of course, that is because the media is dominated by the same group that celebrates Hanukkah. Most of the Jewish groups promoting Hanukkah use it as a lesson to vigorously condemn intermarriage between Jews and Gentiles.
Imagine for a moment if there was a White House ceremony that symbolized White rejection of assimilation and multiculturalism, and stridently opposed intermarriage of Whites and nonwhites. Do you think the media would be silent? Or how about if Bush Welcomed to the White House the Gentile equivalent of Jewish supremacists, called Israel Identity and they had a religious ceremony celebrating not letting Jews mix or assimilate with them?
Every major Jewish organization in the world has programs dedicated to preventing marriage of Jews and non-Jews. How often are they compared to those organizations of Whites who oppose intermarriage? How many times have you seen the Hollywood stereotype of the White Southerner opposed to race-mixing? How many of you, listening to this broadcast, know that by law Israel does not legally recognize marriages between Jews and non-Jews? How many times has the media dared to compare those Israeli laws to the old anti-intermarriage laws in most of the American states?
How are these double standards maintained without any outcry? In truth the double standards that we witness every day in our nation reveal the extent of Jewish power and influence over our media, government and culture.
Their power has led us to a Mideast policy that led directly to the tragedy of 911. Jewish extremists such a Perle and Wolfowitz are acknowledged to be the chief architects of the ongoing catastrophe of the Iraq War, a war created by Jewish Neocons and promoted by the Jewish-dominated media. It is a war that may be good for Israel, but absolutely horrible for America. That war is not worth the life of even one good American, much less the lives of over 30,000 maimed, blinded, crippled or killed American military men and women in a war that is only making our terrorist enemy more popular around the world and making America more hated! And, it has caused the death of at least 1,000,000 Iraqis, including hundreds of thousands of women and children, as well as millions more crippled, disfigured or made homeless. No wonder the journalist threw his shoe at Bush in Baghdad. Jewish supremacists are even advocating an expansion of the bloodshed to what they proudly call World War IV. And now they are trying to drive us into an insane war against Iran.
Unless that Jewish-supremacist power over America is broken, our heritage and freedom will not survive, and the world will be washed in blood.
For more about the Christian-Jewish issues read my article: “Should Christians Support Israel?” If you want to know more about the worldwide Jewish supremacist organization Chabad, that regularly has parties in the White House and has formal meetings with heads of state all over the world, just type chabad into the search window and take a look the articles on www.Davidduke.com about this Jewish extremist organization that thinks the only purpose of non-Jews is to “serve Jews.” I think you will find the articles interesting and well documented. And please if you found this article enlightening, send a contribution to support my work during this Christmastime, or at least let me know what you think by clicking the email button in the upper right margin and sending me your comments.
Thanks!
Former Representative David Duke
United States of America, State of Louisiana

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