BP88
08-20-2003, 04:47 PM
I acquired my boat at the end of last Summer. At the time it was given to me it had been sitting for 10 years in a barn and the engine was taken apart. It had gotten hot and blown a head gasket and they never did anything with it.
Anyway, with a lot of help from everyone on these forums, I rebuilt the engine and actually got it wet last September. Unfortunately I couldn't get it to run and ended up having to rebuild the carb over the Winter.
However this year I finally got a chance to put it back in the water with the rebuilt carb and was able to start it. It does start hard, (have to prime it several times), but that's another issue. Once I get it running, it flat out runs great. The problem is that I can only go about 1/2 mile before I have to shut it down because it's getting too hot.
My setup is as follows: Harmanized Ford 460 with a Berkeley Jet.
Right now the water inlet off the jet goes to a T, then a hose goes to each side and into a port on the front of each Harman header. Then it comes back off each side through a port right next to where the water goes in. From there each hose goes to a port on each side of the Harman plate that covers where a water pump would go on a normal engine. Then there are 2 water outlets coming out from where the thermostat would go(mine has no thermostat, just a plate that covers the water hole). Then those 2 hoses go to each side and onto outlets on the back of each header, then exit the system. There are 2 ports where hoses would go onto a spacer that the carb goes on, but they weren't in use when I got it, and looked like they hadn't been in a long time. Besides, I know that wouldn't cause the engine to overheat. I include this info because I had to put everything back together and am not positive that the hoses are routed correctly. I am 90% sure it's right based on the fact that they really won't fit any other way based on their lengths. And the fact that if I hook up a garden hose to the inlet water does circulate through the system and come out the exhaust port.
I installed a simple on/off garden hose shut off valve between the inlet hose coming off the jet and the hose that connects to the T. So I can shut that valve and run the garden hose through the engine while the boat sits in the water and the engine is running. If I do that the engine does not get hot. But if I hook it up normally and run it, it gets hot. I can take that plate off where the thermostat would go and water barely bubbles out while the engine is running. I would think the water would gush.
I do know that there is no obstruction in the hose coming off the jet because I can open that valve while it sits in the water and water comes rushing in.
Based on all this I have my theories. I think that maybe the wear ring on the jet is worn and the tolerance is too big to push water into the cooling hose. Instead it may even suck the water out, I don't know. I had a boat mechanic tell me that if the wear ring was that bad that the jet would cavitate and that it wouldn't push the boat, at least not fast. Well, that isn't the case.
Am I on the right track here? It is true that the only thing pumping the water is the jet itself correct? There is no water pump.
Instead of rebuilding the jet, should I try installing some kind of auxiliary pump and put a new hole in the transom to pull that water in?
Sorry for the novel but I wanted to make sure I provided enough info.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Anyway, with a lot of help from everyone on these forums, I rebuilt the engine and actually got it wet last September. Unfortunately I couldn't get it to run and ended up having to rebuild the carb over the Winter.
However this year I finally got a chance to put it back in the water with the rebuilt carb and was able to start it. It does start hard, (have to prime it several times), but that's another issue. Once I get it running, it flat out runs great. The problem is that I can only go about 1/2 mile before I have to shut it down because it's getting too hot.
My setup is as follows: Harmanized Ford 460 with a Berkeley Jet.
Right now the water inlet off the jet goes to a T, then a hose goes to each side and into a port on the front of each Harman header. Then it comes back off each side through a port right next to where the water goes in. From there each hose goes to a port on each side of the Harman plate that covers where a water pump would go on a normal engine. Then there are 2 water outlets coming out from where the thermostat would go(mine has no thermostat, just a plate that covers the water hole). Then those 2 hoses go to each side and onto outlets on the back of each header, then exit the system. There are 2 ports where hoses would go onto a spacer that the carb goes on, but they weren't in use when I got it, and looked like they hadn't been in a long time. Besides, I know that wouldn't cause the engine to overheat. I include this info because I had to put everything back together and am not positive that the hoses are routed correctly. I am 90% sure it's right based on the fact that they really won't fit any other way based on their lengths. And the fact that if I hook up a garden hose to the inlet water does circulate through the system and come out the exhaust port.
I installed a simple on/off garden hose shut off valve between the inlet hose coming off the jet and the hose that connects to the T. So I can shut that valve and run the garden hose through the engine while the boat sits in the water and the engine is running. If I do that the engine does not get hot. But if I hook it up normally and run it, it gets hot. I can take that plate off where the thermostat would go and water barely bubbles out while the engine is running. I would think the water would gush.
I do know that there is no obstruction in the hose coming off the jet because I can open that valve while it sits in the water and water comes rushing in.
Based on all this I have my theories. I think that maybe the wear ring on the jet is worn and the tolerance is too big to push water into the cooling hose. Instead it may even suck the water out, I don't know. I had a boat mechanic tell me that if the wear ring was that bad that the jet would cavitate and that it wouldn't push the boat, at least not fast. Well, that isn't the case.
Am I on the right track here? It is true that the only thing pumping the water is the jet itself correct? There is no water pump.
Instead of rebuilding the jet, should I try installing some kind of auxiliary pump and put a new hole in the transom to pull that water in?
Sorry for the novel but I wanted to make sure I provided enough info.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.