Mini Hi-torque Starter

[WETDAWG]

Ive ben having a heck of a time liting up my BBF this year. I know my starter is toast and am thinking of replacing it with one of those mini hi-torque jobbers. i saw one on E bay for around $70. Anybody had any experience with them? I am running a low mount starter. I will be in the parking lot of AVI on 8/3 replacing the stater....I am trying to get BBTAHITI to help but he would rather go Boating.........bummer for me :D

[Jet Junk]

Those high torque starters really help alot, but if you are gonna get one, I would reccomend a Ford designed (oe type) planetary gear reduction starter off of something like an early 90's 460. The aftermarket ones (basically a hitachi jap car starter w/ custom end frame) work, but they aren't as reliable. We have built quite a few of the oe style starters and they seem to last alot longer than the hitachi style......Tommy

[Jet Junk]

Double post :mad:
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[Jet Junk]

Stupid computer :mad:
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[WETDAWG]

Thanks for the great advice. I have always liked OE stuff and think I will go that route. It's pretty hard to push start your jet boat. :D :cool: :)
Thanks again
Ted

[WETDAWG]

Well I got the starter. I am gonna bring the old standby just in case.
I cant wait to finish my yard so I can bring the boat home.
ted

[Jungle Boy]

I've been running GM mini-starters for some time and they don't like to get wet too much. I spray mine down with WD-40 or silicone spray before and after each run. They do not have sealed bearings and tend to rust and slowly lose their cranking power.

[BBTAHITI]

WETDAWG:
Ive ben having a heck of a time liting up my BBF this year. I know my starter is toast and am thinking of replacing it with one of those mini hi-torque jobbers. i saw one on E bay for around $70. Anybody had any experience with them? I am running a low mount starter. I will be in the parking lot of AVI on 8/3 replacing the stater....I am trying to get BBTAHITI to help but he would rather go Boating.........bummer for me :D Ya know, I could make it out Friday night, sleep in the truck and help you get Wethawg done on Saturday. And, I've still got 1 1/2 tanks in the Tahiti! :D
BBT

[WETDAWG]

BBTahiti,
YOU the man! What a great offer! Are you gonna bring Eric? how about Mr Coors?
I'll call ya and we'll talk. Margie thinks it will be a romantic weekend. :o :o
Yeah I can see it now, 120 degree heat, in the parking lot, under an E-Z up, me drinking brewskis, yelling at the darn boat, scraping all my knuckles, getting pissed off and finally fixing old Wet Dawg.
Come to think of it :rolleyes: , if she opens the beer, that could be romantic. :p hahahahahahahahahahah I am a pig!

[INFINITEJJ]

Ted,
I have the same problem putting the fire to the slightly built 460 of mine. PLEASE let me know how it turns out. I was going to replace my starter anyways, but I also want to do it right.

[JetboatJon454]

WETDAWG:
Ive ben having a heck of a time liting up my BBF this year. I know my starter is toast and am thinking of replacing it with one of those mini hi-torque jobbers. i saw one on E bay for around $70. Anybody had any experience with them? I am running a low mount starter. I will be in the parking lot of AVI on 8/3 replacing the stater....I am trying to get BBTAHITI to help but he would rather go Boating.........bummer for me :D Just out of curiosity what compression ratio are you running? I had the same problem earlier this season because the nimrod that built the motor before had an OEM starter and I have a BBC 454 with 11:1 compression and that starter would just kick my motors ass. I went on Ebay and bought one for 120 bucks I could probably give ya the name of the place I bought it from if you email me and remind me. It was a "super torque" starter if I remember correctly and I got a 1 year warranty. Everytime I crank it never fails and doesn't heat up like the stinkin' stocker does

[JetboatJon454]

By the way.....I know chevy and ford may be slightly different. But definately get an extra handy hand to help ya get the starter off. It's a real son of a bee hive to get off the stock starter because on my boat their were 2 and one was all the way out of sight and I had to feel around till I could line the socket up with it. The new starter was really easy and light I did it by myself and it was no problem.

[WETDAWG]

I am running 11:1 compression and I am really anxious to get this high torque reduction starter in.
it is really difficult to push start the boat.
Jon,
I am going out on 8/2 to AVI to fix this sucker if you are out there stop by the parking lot and say Hi.

[SANGERBRU]

Make sure you have a separate relay for the power,a lot of chevy starter problems are plauged by this.And defininely a high torque .

[WETDAWG]

Thanks for all the advice. I let everyone know how the "project" turned out

[Hollis]

Hey, Jet junk...Why didn't you recommend the Tilton starters? I was saving moneys for one but after reading this post I don't want to make a mistake.
My bottom mount starter heats up and won't turn my 460 for the rest of the day :mad:

[Jet Junk]

The Tilton style starters tear up drive gears, clutches and return springs occasionaly. The ford gear reduction starter just seem to be more reliable, I guess because they are factory engineered for the application, rather than adapted from something totally different. Don't get me wrong, we have run tiltons, pro-torques and several others, But ford or chevy, the factory style gear reductions seem to last the best...Tommy

[HOSS]

460, I run a McLeod high torque mini. It kicks ass. I also use welding leads as my battery cables.

[INFINITEJJ]

WETDAWG,
Are you still around this place? I was just wondering how the high torque starter is working and where did you get it?
Jon

[lilrick]

Hitachi...good stuff.

[INFINITEJJ]

Originally posted by HOSS
460, I run a McLeod high torque mini. It kicks ass. I also use welding leads as my battery cables.
Does any one else run the high torque mini's?

[lilrick]

yes...

[HotRod Sprint]

Originally posted by INFINITEJJ
Does any one else run the high torque mini's?
Yes, cranks my BBC without a hitch. I also ran welding cable for battery leads. I ran #2 awg wire, would normally run 1/0 wire, but both of my cables together are only about 3ft.
Rod

[INFINITEJJ]

Need / want more information. Please help if you can. Want to know more about the (oe) stuff vs. the mini stuff.

[Ray Hamel]

The starter on my 460 sounds like its smacking the flex plate on the first try and sounds fine on the second try which starts the engine with no problem. I was told the starter needed to be shimed because the gear is out of line with the flex plate. Has anyone ever heard of this or am I getting BS'd??????? Before I was told this store, I was thinking of getting a new starter. :confused:

[1978 Rogers]

My started took a crap on me this weekend. Need to replace it. Do I contact my local Ford dealer for the mini-high torque that was talked about here? How much do they run?