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scorpionking
03-17-2003, 01:19 PM
HB what kinda pump do i have here and how hard is it to rebuild?? at the least i would like to put a bearing in it, is there an easy way to put in a bearing? http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/324Dsc00008_2_-thumb.jpg http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/324Dsc00005_1_-thumb.jpg

jet4fun
03-17-2003, 01:21 PM
i can BARELY see those pics, but if my eyes are working that looks like a berkeley jc pump... why do you want to replace the bearing???

scorpionking
03-17-2003, 01:22 PM
sorry, i hate computers, here is the larger version http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/324Dsc00008_2_-med.jpg

Jordy
03-17-2003, 01:22 PM
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/324Dsc00008_2_-med.jpg http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/521/324Dsc00005_1_-med.jpg [/QB][/QUOTE]

disco_charger
03-17-2003, 01:23 PM
C pump! Easy way? Send it out to a reputable guy!

scorpionking
03-17-2003, 01:23 PM
well, the thing is growling and thumping pretty bad, it is a 1976 and has never been touched since new.

sidewound
03-17-2003, 02:46 PM
Told You the other day it's a 12 JC. [ING]http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/114My_Pump-thumb.jpg[/IMG]
Peace Man Probably an A
CESAR

sidewound
03-17-2003, 02:48 PM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPS
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/114My_Pump-thumb.jpg

jet4fun
03-18-2003, 08:19 PM
disco_charger:
C pump! Easy way? Send it out to a reputable guy! gonna have to agree here, if you dont know exactly what you are doing then send it to a reputable pump shop, rebuilding a pump is not as easy as some people think,
its like a motor, seems fairly easy, but if youve ever seen a pro do it you realize all the little things that you never even thought of which give you way better performance and longevity
i can recommend a pump builder, but he is here in so cal. so you would either have to ship it, or take one hell of a road trip

HavasuBarney
03-18-2003, 10:08 PM
How about this pump?
I've been told, Bay Jet.
Any other info about it would be helpful. :)
http://www.havasubarney.com/iB_html/uploads/post-9-43492-Image002.jpg
[ March 18, 2003, 10:08 PM: Message edited by: HavasuBarney ]

Sangster
03-18-2003, 10:26 PM
HavasuBarney:
How about this pump?
I've been told, Bay Jet.
Any other info about it would be helpful. :)
http://www.havasubarney.com/iB_html/uploads/post-9-43492-Image002.jpg Hey Barn, Don't know alot about Jets'....But it looks like ya got it in backwards...or something... :confused:

HavasuBarney
03-18-2003, 10:38 PM
I know the motor is supposed to be bolted to the transom, so where else could the pump go...? :)

Sangster
03-18-2003, 10:41 PM
Yup...the tough one is gonna be getting the Jack plate hooked up to the Pump...... :D

spectratoad
03-19-2003, 09:31 AM
Better get some waterproof guages also!! :D

Jungle Boy
03-19-2003, 10:01 AM
Note to self - "Check direction of pump in new boat"

BADAXE
03-19-2003, 10:46 AM
tuff crowd :rolleyes:

HavasuBarney
03-19-2003, 07:06 PM
BADAXE:
tuff crowd :rolleyes: Aint that the truth! :) I don't have much luck asking any questions about my jet boat in here. You guys make these car motors sound easy to install but I must admit, I'm lost with this project... Almost to the point of fixing that transom and slapping an OB on this boat... :confused:
How is your boat coming along BADAXE? I gotta say, I really like the colors and layout.
[ March 19, 2003, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: HavasuBarney ]

future boater
03-20-2003, 04:34 AM
BADAXE:
tuff crowd :rolleyes: yeah no shit! now i want to know what kind of pump it is?!?

bilgewiper
03-20-2003, 06:58 AM
I had a old 69 Sidewinder that had a pump like that (except it aimed the right way...LOL) it was a Berk JA pump with that old style nozzel.
[ March 20, 2003, 06:59 AM: Message edited by: bilgewiper ]

HavasuDreamin'
03-20-2003, 06:59 AM
future boater:
BADAXE:
tuff crowd :rolleyes: yeah no shit! now i want to know what kind of pump it is?!? Yeah, I am curious myself as to the pump mfg. One thing is for sure........that reverse bucket will slow you down about 15 mph! eek!

Bense468
03-20-2003, 01:18 PM
man look at that reverse bucket on that thing (actually the way you have it sitting, it would be the forward thrust). Barn try to find a berk for that thing or just fix it up and slap it together if it is not going to be anything special.
[ March 20, 2003, 01:18 PM: Message edited by: Bense468 ]

hack job
03-20-2003, 01:51 PM
barney it looks lieka berk, a old one to me. maybe the ja

sidewound
03-20-2003, 02:50 PM
bilgewiper:
I had a old 69 Sidewinder that had a pump like that (except it aimed the right way...LOL) it was a Berk JA pump with that old style nozzel.

HavasuBarney
03-20-2003, 06:10 PM
OK, Berk JA... what does that tell me?
Is there somewhere I can read about pumps, what better parts might fit this one?
It's such a clean tunnel boat, beautiful paint, very light, 375lbs, sitting on a sweet trailer. I sure hate the idea of slapping her together. I'd like to run it since I've never driven a hot tub car boat before.
I'm hoping I have a motor partner cause I don't know shit about pumps and car motors.
I've been told the rail kit fits a 454.
So you guys think scrap this pump or can it be helped?
Hack Job told me I could trade it in on a newer Berk, any idea what the gains would be?
http://free.***boat.net/ubb/Avatars/Reader_Rides/Jet_Boats/PC280076-11.JPG
[ March 20, 2003, 06:11 PM: Message edited by: HavasuBarney ]

Bense468
03-20-2003, 11:26 PM
if it is an older berk you can trade it for about 2 grand I believe (don't hold me to this number) for a newer berk. This is kind of a hard decision, if it was me and it is a pos pump like an "a" or a bayjet I would probably trade it, or try to find a newer pump for sale. It does not look like a "c" or a "g" pump but these are what you want to look for. If by for some odd reason it is one of these berk pumps listed above I would have it gone through install it in the boat.
Just a little side note of advise barney and a real quick lesson on pumps. The C and G are the same pumps with different bowls. The intake (or suction piece) is the same. A g bowl is split so you would be able to add a wedge to it and you will see it split in half with bolts running through it. A C is not split. You should read up on some of the pump threads that HBjet started in theis jet fourm to get some ideas and learn a little if you really want to put this together RIGHT.

jweeks123
03-21-2003, 01:16 AM
boy, i remember those winners! it's a bayjet with an early berk nozzle and a bayjet tiller arm. those were around briefly in the early 70's.
jw