Best reason of all to have a Jet Boat

[Jet Hydro]

I have a 19 Taylor SJ called the "Turd" it`s a real POS!!!
Anyway I took it out to the lake last weekend, I just wasn't happy with the performance of the ole 454. I decided that I should do a little motor work before I went out for the big weekend. ( this weekend )
Well I looked it over and said to my self why waste time on this motor when I have a spare motor for my hydro over in the corner :)
Well to get to the best part of the story I put it in and went out last night to do some set-up work...Well I was out there thinking that I should be able to pick a race or two so I put the hammer down, just as 2 guys were coming out to race I hit a sand bar at about 70mph "ouch" bad deal! After I pulled the wheel out of my chest I stepped out and it was only about 4" deep. It took me and my girl about a half an hour to drag that tank back to the deeper water. We went about 200feet in 4" of water at 70mph in a 2000 lbs boat. After we hit waste deep water I pulled the cover off the hand hole and began to clean out all the rocks , sand and mud out of the pump. Now keep in mind that I`m about 2 miles from the ramp where my trailer was so it could have been a long swim if the boat was broken. I put the cover back on the hand hole, hit the key, Off and running once again :) Ran it up to about 30mph, everything was fine so I put the hammer down one more time, we were back to running 70 with no problems what so every!
How much do you think that little miss hap would have cost a guy with a V-Drive?

[Hotcrusader76]

Funny thing is....you're right! Jet pumps rock!
We launched one of these on a sand-bar in Manama, Bahrain (Persian Gulf), twin jets (nozzles are 3-feet in diameter each) twin V-12 Diesels (5000HP). Talk about stuffing the jets, not to mention the raw water system was stacked thick with sand as well...
Bring any memories back aka"Froggy" :D
But we were up and up within an hour.
It only drafts about 4 feet at 20.0 knots. That's shallow for an 82 foot Jetboat
http://www.specialoperations.com/images/sbr.ht1.jpg
[ August 29, 2003, 01:35 PM: Message edited by: Hotcrusader76 ]

[058]

A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass. :D

[Hotcrusader76]

:::::whispering under my breathe::::: f*&king V-drive.....injected weanies :D :::::whispering under my breathe:::::

[LakesOnly]

058:
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass. :D SLAM!
LO

[BAF#276]

LakesOnly:
058:
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass. :D SLAM!
LO I AGREE WITH 058 ABOUT HAVING YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.
A V-DRIVE OWNER WOULD NOT BE THAT ****ING STUPID TO DO SUCH A DUMB ASS THING AS RUNNING UP ON A SAND BAR AT 70 MPH.
V-DRIVE OWNERS TAKE PRIDE IN THERE BOATS SO I GUESS THATS WHY YOU NAMED YOUR BOAT THE TURD.
[ August 29, 2003, 04:00 PM: Message edited by: BAF#276 ]

[ssmike]

Jet Hydro:
so I put the hammer down ...I hit a sand bar at about 70mph "ouch" bad deal!LOL....What a race!

[Hallett19]

058:
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass. :D OUCH...... let me guess, the v-driver would have been so far ahead, he wouldnt even had noticed the jet hit the sandbar either, right ? :D

[hbjetsucks]

Hotcrusader76:
:::::whispering under my breathe::::: f*&king V-drive.....injected weanies :D :::::whispering under my breathe::::: You were really whispering under your breath "spoon me , spoon me" you ****in homo

[HBjet]

hbjetsucks
I was waiting for you to post! How cute, I have a little nut swinger, and so does JohnwithFM "ultraboatssuck"
Hmm, let's see, who was getting all pissy with HBjet, and JohnwithJM in the V-drive forum....?
Man, be a little creative...
HBjet
[ August 29, 2003, 04:53 PM: Message edited by: HBjet ]

[MarKist]

WHY DON'T YOU CRAWL BACK IN THAT FAT AS BITCH YOU CAME OUT OF NOBODY WHAT'S TO READ YOUR STUPID CHICKEN SHIT REPLY yuk yuk yuk

[MarKist]

Why would somebody be that chicken shit I just don't get it!! burningm burningm

[058]

ssmike:
Jet Hydro:
so I put the hammer down ...I hit a sand bar at about 70mph "ouch" bad deal!LOL....What a race! Sand bar-1.....Jet Hydro-0 Winner....Sandbar!

[77charger]

shallow water advantage for the jet is the main reason plus maintanance.I use to own one and hit a rock bar too opened the hand hole cleared the rocks and drove back to the casinos at laughlin.repaired for around 400.00.Now with my i/o i would have needed a tow for sure plus the repair bill well i wouldnt want to think of it.
Also your average river-lake boat the jet has the holeshot advantage.

[Jet Hydro]

I just took the pump apart to see if I hurt anything and it still look`s as good as the day I first put it together :) It has a little grove in the ware ring but nothing bad enough to worry about. I took out a .004 shim to tighten it up a little. I think I`m ready for the weekend :) I hope everyone has a safe weekend!
Even you 058 wink
[ August 29, 2003, 08:09 PM: Message edited by: Jet Hydro ]

[HammerDown]

Jet Hydro:
I took out a .004 shim to tighten it up a little.
Even you 058 wink How much is your total clearance now??? I hope its not to close...ya have to allow for preload on that thrust bearing.

[MikeC]

Ah, the MarkIV!
Excellent pic!
Anymore?
Thanks
Mark IV (http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/boat-mkv.html)

[058]

Jet Hydro:
) I hope everyone has a safe weekend!
Even you 058 wink :D Thanks Jet hydro, I intend to, I'm staying home. 3 day weekends are for amatures....stay away from those sandbars now.

[Jet Hydro]

HammerDown:
Jet Hydro:
I took out a .004 shim to tighten it up a little.
Even you 058 wink How much is your total clearance now??? I hope its not to close...ya have to allow for preload on that thrust bearing. "0" clearance! I use Duane's ultimate ware rings from HI-TechPerfprmance. I set mine up with .000 because the ware ring is softer than the impeller and it will ware in to the tightest clearance with out doing any damage to the impeller. You just cant build any tighter of a pump with out one.

[Rexone]

read the thread title sorry just can't think of any right now. :D

[FryJet]

BAF#276:
I AGREE WITH 058 ABOUT HAVING YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.
A V-DRIVE OWNER WOULD NOT BE THAT ****ING STUPID TO DO SUCH A DUMB ASS THING AS RUNNING UP ON A SAND BAR AT 70 MPH.
V-DRIVE OWNERS TAKE PRIDE IN THERE BOATScry Sounds like someone has issues to me wink
F.J.

[bordsmnj]

FryJet:
BAF#276:
I AGREE WITH 058 ABOUT HAVING YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.
A V-DRIVE OWNER WOULD NOT BE THAT ****ING STUPID TO DO SUCH A DUMB ASS THING AS RUNNING UP ON A SAND BAR AT 70 MPH.
V-DRIVE OWNERS TAKE PRIDE IN THERE BOATScry Sounds like someone has issues to me wink
F.J. yeah, you could be right. i think he's up set cuase he woulda hit it doing 80. :p snicker snicker.

[THE BOSTON SIDEWINDER]

IT IS FACT, JET BOATS RULE! I HIT SOMETHING 2 YRS AGO IN THE MIDDLE OF 20 SQUARE ACRES OF WATER IN BOSTON HARBOR. IF IT WAS AN I/O OR AN INBOARD IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GRAND TO FIX, MININUM. INSTEAD IT COST ME ABOUT $12. BOUGHT A JAR OF MARINE TEX AND IT WAS BACK IN THE WATER BY THE WEEKEND! HERE AT THE MARINA WHERE I WORK AT WE GET A COUPLE RUN-A-GROUNDS A WEEK-END AND THEY ARE ALMOST ALL SUBSTANTIALY MORE MONEY TO GET THEM FIXED AND BACK IN THE WATER! THIS WEEK ALONE WE GOT 4 LOWER UNITS TO REPLACE BECAUSE OF UNDER WATER OBSTICLES!...BILL.

[HOSS]

http://www.specialoperations.com/Navy/MKVSOC/default2.html
There ya go. They were actually built in New Orleans, LA on the Industrial Canal at the Equitable yard. Halter`s main office was in Gulfport.
I set all the motors in them except for 2 hulls.
The MK-VI is and has been slated for build but has yet to reach a contract stage.
Just for a little more trivia: there were 2 other hulls built. Both were sold to offshore drilling companies(auctioned after demise of Halter) for supply vessels. One was made of fiberglass and the other was made of Kevlar. Both were screw driven. Fiber was twin screw and Kevlar was triple screw. All ran Detroits.
These vessels were a pleasure to build. After the MV-V project we had the Venezuelan Navy project and during that time Halter was sold off and most yards were closed. I too was laid off then went with a marine electronics company still working on the Venezuelan boats. Later wound up becoming a foreman and working on LCAC, CoastGuard CPB`s, Navy Sealift, AGOR, and finishing my shipbuilding days with the LPD-17.
Bottom has fallen again and there ain`t much left. All the work is overseas for dirt cheap labor. Went to VW (POS) as a service advisor till I said **** this. Back in school but still miss floating boats. Lifestyle I guess.

[HOSS]

OHh I forgot. We have run the jets to 78 mph and the screws to 82. Not bad for a heavy mofo. The jets greatest feature was the fact that it could go WOT to dead stop in the same distance it is long! HOLD ON BOYS! The whole entire bow would go under! The first few hulls we had a canopy problem. Since these hulls are designed as wave piercers the force of the water would crush the canopy. Some Navy cruits got hurt pretty bad. We then started mounting a (removable) stantion. Problem solved.
Also the Kevlar hull was longer. I wanna say 84'.

[Hotcrusader76]

Hoss,
I Cheif Engineered 985 and 986 boat. They were the last two slated for the SOCOM when Halter finished that contract...No? I got to see the changes from B-Boat to the final two of the 20 boat series.
The country of Sri Lanka has three of them if I remember correctly as well, but they are rigged more for living, fighting, and dieing...LOL...for a lack of better words. Those three boats see some massive combat even before 9/11
So you set the motors hunh? 985 and 986 both had to be re-set because of cracks in that pink puddy crap that was being used. What was the deal on that? Do you know what I'm referring to? Where the MTUs actuall set on those four pedstals
Kuwait coming on Fall
http://www.tpcracing.com/images_temp/MKV_450.jpg
Kuwait Dead Summer
http://www.tpcracing.com/images_temp/MKV_450a.jpg
This was my crew for 984 boat
http://www.tpcracing.com/images_temp/MKV_450b.jpg
Kuwait Naval Base (deserted after Gulf War) sort of ghost town back in 99'
http://www.tpcracing.com/images_temp/MKV_450c.jpg
11 meter RHIB boat practiceing runs off the coast of San Clemente Island (CA)
http://www.tpcracing.com/images_temp/11mtr.jpg
[ August 30, 2003, 11:28 AM: Message edited by: Hotcrusader76 ]

[Wild Man]

Ok, I am new to jet boating, always had straight IB,s.
I have been wondering, other then the shallow water running what is the point of a Jet? Seems to me if you are after speed, all else being equal the same moter in a v-drive would be faster. For sking a prop seems to pull skiers up faster. For general pleasure use they use more fuel.
I am not flameing anyone (I own a 73 Sidewinder) just been wondering.

[HOSS]

Shock Fast. Anyway thats the orange shit you are referring to. We stayed working 24 hrs straight to replace one motor in the last deliverred boats. I don`t remember the number hull. Deliverred next day! Stewart & Stevens might have set some after we did for warranty.
That shit always cracks. Its for vibration dampenning.
Did all the gray matting peel off of your hull too? Hated installing those damn seat rails (Dark Green or Dark Grey anodized) on the floor.
You had to be there then when the Venezuelan project was underway.
Well John Dane know only owns Trinity Yachts and they are leasing the Equitable warhouse that the MK-V`s were built in. Nothing is there anymore. All the boats built there for so many years and its a ghost town. I don`t know if you knew but the Higgins boats were built on tat same site.
[ August 30, 2003, 02:27 PM: Message edited by: HOSS ]

[Snorider]

Jet Hydro:
0" clearance! I use Duane's ultimate ware rings from HI-TechPerfprmance. I set mine up with .000 because the ware ring is softer than the impeller and it will ware in to the tightest clearance with out doing any damage to the impeller. You just cant build any tighter of a pump with out one. I too am running the UWR from duane, and he told me to run quite a lot of clearance...
In his words where this: Shim the impeller to the point where you can just barely turn it by hand when it is seated in the wear ring, then add another 0.025 of shim...
By running the impeller that tight, you are doing two things:
1.) Robbing lots of horsepower due to friction
2.) Wearing the ring faster than necessary.
It is possible duane has different clearance requirements for each setup, but i think 0.00" clearance is a waste of horsepower...

[Duane HTP]

You're right! We recommend running .025" clearance between the front impeller edge to the wear ring lip when installed with a new thrust bearing. I'd go .035" on a used bearing. Then after several outings at the lake, if the impeller edge hasn't kissed the wear ring lip, I'd take out .oo5" at a time until it does. If you set it up too tight you take a chance of gaulling the wear ring the first time you hit it real hard. If the motor has much HP, the impeller "grows" and gets a little bigger in diameter and streaches forward a little bit when you put the HP to it too. Duane HTP

[058]

Wild Man:
Ok, I am new to jet boating, always had straight IB,s.
I have been wondering, other then the shallow water running what is the point of a Jet? Seems to me if you are after speed, all else being equal the same moter in a v-drive would be faster. For sking a prop seems to pull skiers up faster. For general pleasure use they use more fuel.
I am not flameing anyone (I own a 73 Sidewinder) just been wondering. DING!!! Ladies and Gentlemen....we have a winner!! Another convert starting to see the light. :D :D

[058]

Duane HTP:
You're right! We recommend running .025" clearance between the front impeller edge to the wear ring lip when installed with a new thrust bearing. I'd go .035" on a used bearing. Then after several outings at the lake, if the impeller edge hasn't kissed the wear ring lip, I'd take out .oo5" at a time until it does. If you set it up too tight you take a chance of gaulling the wear ring the first time you hit it real hard. If the motor has much HP, the impeller "grows" and gets a little bigger in diameter and streaches forward a little bit when you put the HP to it too. Duane HTP Yeah...esp. when you have guys like jet hydro trying to use his boat as a sand pump. Do they work good for that?
idea

[Duane HTP]

As a matter of fact, YES! They are very resistant to abraision. The fishing boats in Alaska use a lot of them for that very reason. Thanks for the question.

[Jet Hydro]

When I say that I set mine up at .000 clearance it`s because at WOT it has .000...
If I started out at .000 it would melt the ring and spin it in the housing. I like to see about a .005 lip on the ring. HammerDown asked for total clearance, I started out at a tight .022. After about 4 times to the lake I looked at the pump and it didn't have a lip on the ring so I took out one .004 shim. It`s not a good idea to run as tight of clearance as I do unless you don't mind taking chances. The numbers that Duane posted are best for the guy that doesn't like to work on his pump all the time. If you use his numbers you`ll be happy. My reply was kind of miss leading on total clearance and that`s because I wasn't thinking of total I was thing of the clearance at WOT...Sorry HammerDown

[Wet Dream]

Never mind. I'll play nice.
[ August 31, 2003, 12:44 PM: Message edited by: Wet Dream ]

[Wet Dream]

hbjetsucks:
Hotcrusader76:
:::::whispering under my breathe::::: f*&king V-drive.....injected weanies :D :::::whispering under my breathe::::: You were really whispering under your breath "spoon me , spoon me" you ****in homo Stupid faggot has to create a bullshit name to bash someone. Grow some balls bitch.

[dmontzsta]

:o funny how the jet boaters are always in denial and come up with stupid little things on how they are better, when deep down they know the reality. The only thing a jets good for are in a jacuuzi :D

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

dmontzsta:
:o funny how the jet boaters are always in denial and come up with stupid little things on how they are better, when deep down they know the reality. The only thing a jets good for are in a jacuuzi :D I dont think so brotha! All you eggbeaters & weedwackers are jealous that we can shoot the roost and yall cant eek! eek! How many times do I have to tell you guys "Women see roost, not speed" :D :D
Oh and one more thing read me signature!
"If it dont spit, then I cant **** with it"
396--out

[Wild Man]

DING!!! Ladies and Gentlemen....we have a winner!! Another convert starting to see the light. So 058 you don't like jet boats. I don't like a lot of things. But I have a life and don't need to waste my time worrying about it.
The original question still stands.

[checkmate76]

is the v-drive board that boring???
you guys have to come over here and bash on jet boats? whats up with that? We don't care if our boats are not the fastest or the most economical, our boats are safe and fun, we can fit more than two people in our jets and most of all jet-boats are just plain out ... THE COOLIST!!!!
So now after saying that, go back and leave your pansy-ass coments on your own board! idea

[058]

Oh, My...!! eek! Are we a little sensitive, are we? Can't take the heat? Tough shit...and no, things aren't a little boring on the V-drive board. I merely responded to something Jet Hydro posted as he was taking HIS shot at V-drives as a result of a stupid bonehead move on HIS part. :rolleyes: Also I don't see any rules regarding this forum saying someone who isn't a jetter cannot read and respond to this board...It is you guys who need to get a life and lighten up. :p :p :p

[Jetboatguru]

Hey Checkmate,
Go read the first post of this thread and focus all of your attention on the very last line. It is even in bold for your viewing pleasure. Now do you not think that the door was kicked wide open for the guys to post? It's all in fun around here so "lighten up Francis" :D :p :p :D

[Sangster]

Jetboats suck....If they don't, they arn't working right..... :D Tighten up your pump & loosen up the attitude..Life's to short....... :D

[Oldsquirt]

Sangster:
.....Tighten up your pump & loosen up the attitude..Life's to short....... :D Great line, Sangster! :D

[Jet Hydro]

Not to poke or pick fun at the V-Drive guy`s but I just got back from the lake and you wont believe this one...... There was this guy stuck on the same sand bar.....lol..... He was only about half as far up on the sand bar as I was. I sat there and B.S.ed with some friends for about an hour while they worked to get the boat free. After they got it off the sand bar they started to yell HELP!!!!! Seem`s that the prop shaft was bent and had knocked a big ass hole in the bottom of the boat. Can you say "Taking on water big time" They got the boat to the ramp and on the trailer along with the help of some JET Boat`s doing the towing...ROTFLMAO
I went over and talked to the guy that owned the boat and asked him what happen. His reply was funny as hell. He said "I was on a speed pass and the next thing I knew I was on the beach but the beach was about 250 yards in front of me". I told him that I had done the same thing earlier in the week at the same spot. His boat was in pretty bad shape. I wish I had my camera so I could have posted a few pictures of what it does to a prop boat. I asked him how much did he think it was going to cost to repair his boat, His reply was "A hell of a lot" :mad: Prop shaft, prop, rudder, the hole in the bottom, drive line and maybe the gear box because it had oil all over his seat`s and floor. cry He then said "Why don't you have your boat out, did the sand bar do much to my boat" I said "NO" My boat was fine and I went about another 100 feet up on it than he had. He then said freaking jet boat`s get all the luck, I replied "All The Women TOO!" :D
He gave my the finger and handed me a beer. Funny how those V-Drive guy`s can hit sand bars too...ROTFLMAO Maybe he should read this topic :rolleyes: then he would have known that V-Drive guy`s dont hit things that they cant see! ROTFLMAO wink

[dmontzsta]

smart chicks know the rooster slows you down and is only show off. besides, REAL boats dont need a jacuzzi pump to throw water up in the air.

[mud duck]

While boating on the Mississippi river a few years ago with three friends, we hit a half submerged log. We found it to be pretty big too, after we doubled back to see it. Fortunately, my Taylor just skipped over it and we could keep on going. Checked out the hull back at the ramp on the trailer, no problems. If that happend in an I/O or V-drive, it would have been very expensive. Not to mention the 25 mile tow back to the ramp. wink

[HBjet]

Here is a V-drive guy!
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/12Schiada.jpg
And the boat's a Schiada, probably the most expensive v-drive out there!
HBjet

[HammerDown]

Ouch...thats gonna cost$$$$

[pops1]

058:
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass. :D YOUR ASS- "AT BEST"
YOUR BOAT WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF THIS, IS A TOTAL SALVAGE FOR PARTS INCLUDING BENT SHAFT, WIPED OUT PROP,MISSING SKAG,ETC INCLUDING THE 200 OTHER PARTS IT TAKES TO MAKE YOUR PROP TURN.
ITS ALWAYS A JET THAT PULLS YOU PROPPERS BACK TO YOUR TRAILER WHEN YOU PULL THIS STUNT.
THE RIVER BELONGS TO JETTERS OR PROPS UNDER TOW.
POPs

[058]

RiverDave:
I enjoy jetboats too.. I think there nothing but trouble free turn key fun. :D
JETBOAT FUN (http://forums.***boat.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=15;t=006210)
RD <---- Agrees with 058 :D Jetters....Check out RD's link. eek! Just goes to prove no boat is without problems, yours are just a bit different than ours so be careful who you start braggin to about how trouble free and safe a jet is over a prop boat. [thanks RD :D ]

[Sangster]

If all we had was 400 hp. engines they would be alot more dependable too..... eek!

[Johnwithjm]

Sangster:
If all we had was 400 hp. engines they would be alot more dependable too..... eek! I wish I had 400hp like you Sangster :D

[schiada96]

Id cry if that was my boat in the lagoon at Needles. I've seen a lot of people do the same thing there.

[spectras only]

The difference between jet and V-drive is, I'm relaxed driving the jetboat knowing that if I don't see a log floating I couldn't care less what's below the surface wink .With the v-drive I'm using less gas but have to pay attention for shallows [ a depthsounder is good to have :p ]and submerged floating logs. We have those as large as 2-3' in diameter here on the fraser river eek! I've been out three days in the row this last weekend and past at least a dozen of these logs ,surviving without hitting one :D .The most dangerous ones are out in the ocean bobbing up and down trying to put a hole in your boat regardless what drive you have :p .

[Sangster]

Johnwithjm:
Sangster:
If all we had was 400 hp. engines they would be alot more dependable too..... eek! I wish I had 400hp like you Sangster :D Damn you caught me in a lie John....This deal was only 350hp. @ 4500rpm..
http://www.***boat.net/hbcove/38/1/04.jpg
But I guarentee ya the New 632ci. deal will be puttin' out 400hp. @5000rpm....
BTW sounds like we're gonna have to make Lost Lake...You guys are having way to much fun.. :D
[ September 02, 2003, 06:53 PM: Message edited by: Sangster ]

[Johnwithjm]

Ok now I see your talking 400 shot of NOS. You guys should make a trip out to Lost Lake next year you would have a blast. There was a hydro a few years ago out there and it was one fast ride.

[058]

pops1:
058:
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass. :D YOUR ASS- "AT BEST"
YOUR BOAT WOULD HAVE COME OUT OF THIS, IS A TOTAL SALVAGE FOR PARTS INCLUDING BENT SHAFT, WIPED OUT PROP,MISSING SKAG,ETC INCLUDING THE 200 OTHER PARTS IT TAKES TO MAKE YOUR PROP TURN.
ITS ALWAYS A JET THAT PULLS YOU PROPPERS BACK TO YOUR TRAILER WHEN YOU PULL THIS STUNT.
THE RIVER BELONGS TO JETTERS OR PROPS UNDER TOW.
POPs OHHHHH...PlllEEEAAAASSSE....The river belongs to the jetters? What a crock of shit.
yuk

[Aluminum Squirt]

I love just about anything with a loud motor that goes fast, including v-drives, BUT my rivers do belong to the jets, jets with roll cages, and seat belts. My river's are boulder strewn, at least 3-4 inches deep and logs are obstacles you enjoy because they are softer than rock. Sand bars are for polishing hulls. My jets are tuned with a sledge hammer and some bondo if you have the time. When we hit something, we always do a speed run because sometimes its faster with dents in the right spots-Aluminum Squirt

[Jet Hydro]

http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/12Schiada.jpg
058
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass.
Originally posted by BAF#276
I AGREE WITH 058 ABOUT HAVING YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.
A V-DRIVE OWNER WOULD NOT BE THAT ****ING STUPID TO DO SUCH A DUMB ASS THING AS RUNNING UP ON A SAND BAR
V-DRIVE OWNERS TAKE PRIDE IN THERE BOATS This is just to funny!!!!!! eek! :D I love the way those V-Drive guy`s park their boats...ROTFLMAO
[ September 03, 2003, 11:55 AM: Message edited by: Jet Hydro ]

[1slowboat]

i have one to add to this topic.....the brazoes river by plowman creek, had a few friends meet up and run the river, we were on our way back to the boat ramp and a friend of ours was driving an i/o .... he had most of the girls in his boat (girls hanging with each other chatting) and he hit the sandbar before we could get his atention.... cookiemans girl was in the front( bowrider) and did a backflip out of the boat.....although a jet wouldnt have beached there, i know cause i halled ass over there to make sure they were allright,along with cookieman and a couple others.... they were all banged up and bruised, but just think if the boat didnt stop as sone as it hit....could have been alot worse, eek! cry :confused: this is why i like jets beter,pump wont chop you up, unless your a fish,
just my experiance, i like v-drives too, for top speed but for a family lake boat ill take a jet any day of the week.......
just my 2 cents

[pops1]

[/qb]OHHHHH...PlllEEEAAAASSSE....The river belongs to the jetters? What a crock of shit.
yuk [/QB][/QUOTE]I thought only us SO CAL BOYS
were straight and used our limited vocabulary- I also thought you NO CAL boys were into the frigid thing like your water(COS -Cold as shit)Now do we have a propper who goe's to the river or do you stay where the water is deep like Lakes or on the Shore where you see most Proppers. I sure would hate to see you tear up all the under gear -No way would you survive the same condition.
Your only recourse then is to BEG a JETTER to tow you home to get your broken 5k$$$$(BIG BUCKS) repair bill home.
PS- You know most boat shop owners @ the river, have troll boats out following proppers waiting for something to happen to ya. First thing asked is how much you have open on your credit card.
HEHEHEHOHOHO Back to Ya!
- also whats this NO NAME Stuff-I will just call you NO_RECOURSE if thats OK! POPs
[ September 03, 2003, 01:38 PM: Message edited by: pops1 ]

[pops1]

Jet Hydro:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/12Schiada.jpg
058
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass.
I AGREE WITH 058 ABOUT HAVING YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.
A V-DRIVE OWNER WOULD NOT BE THAT ****ING STUPID TO DO SUCH A DUMB ASS THING AS RUNNING UP ON A SAND BAR
V-DRIVE OWNERS TAKE PRIDE IN THERE BOATS This is just to funny!!!!!! eek! :D I love the way those V-Drive guy`s park their boats...ROTFLMAO Now This is some Funny SHIT- Were the Hell are the Jetters when you need a TOW!
HEAD UP HIS ASS AND HIS MIND IN ARKANSAS! LOOK ON HIS DECK- YOU CAN SEE HIS HANDYCAP PLACECARD. POPs
[ September 03, 2003, 01:52 PM: Message edited by: pops1 ]

[schiada96]

pops1:
Jet Hydro:
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/12Schiada.jpg
058
A V-driver would have watched where he was going and avoided the sandbar. Sorry you had your head up your ass.
I AGREE WITH 058 ABOUT HAVING YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS.
A V-DRIVE OWNER WOULD NOT BE THAT ****ING STUPID TO DO SUCH A DUMB ASS THING AS RUNNING UP ON A SAND BAR
V-DRIVE OWNERS TAKE PRIDE IN THERE BOATS This is just to funny!!!!!! eek! :D I love the way those V-Drive guy`s park their boats...ROTFLMAO Now This is some Funny SHIT- Were the Hell are the Jetters when you need a TOW!
HEAD UP HIS ASS AND HIS MIND IN ARKANSAS! LOOK ON HIS DECK- YOU CAN SEE HIS HANDYCAP PLACECARD. POPs That some strong words about a guy you don't know
with a big boat that would leave a jet hydro way behind :p

[Jet Hydro]

schiada96:
That some strong words about a guy you don't know
with a big boat that would leave a jet hydro way behind p [/QB]You really think so :rolleyes: ??? It doesn't look like he`ll have much of a chance starting from the V-Drive beach...lol.... wink Tell him to get that thing back in the water! Then look up the Jet Hydro eek!
I`d race him as long as it wasn't a land race, I like to race the Jet Hydro on water eek! only....ROTFLMAO
So lighten up Francis! :rolleyes: :p
[ September 03, 2003, 03:20 PM: Message edited by: Jet Hydro ]

[schiada96]

I`d race him as long as it wasn't a land race, I like to race the Jet Hydro on water eek! only....ROTFLMAO [/QB][/QUOTE]
I don't know who owns that but I feel for him. I've seen a lot of boats do the same thing there. They put them in the lagoon and leave them overnight to wake up to a stranded boat.

[Jet Hydro]

That would suck for sure. I`v seen a picture of hbjet`s boat where he did the same thing. I`m way to chicken to leave my boat`s in the water over night. To many things can happen in the middle of the night! jawdrop

[cyclone]

Sangster:
If all we had was 400 hp. engines they would be alot more dependable too..... eek! hmmm. 400hp?? i wonder what that runs like? Haven't missed a trip yet with over 730hp in my JET BOAT.

[Sangster]

cyclone:
Sangster:
If all we had was 400 hp. engines they would be alot more dependable too..... eek! hmmm. 400hp?? i wonder what that runs like? Haven't missed a trip yet with over 730hp in my JET BOAT. Cyclone..With that kind of ponies your squirtboat should do all right..We'll try and make Lost Lake or somewhere down that way next year with our boats...We'll keep the light on for ya'..... smile_sp smile_sp

[Sangster]

cyclone:
Sangster:
If all we had was 400 hp. engines they would be alot more dependable too..... eek! hmmm. 400hp?? i wonder what that runs like? Haven't missed a trip yet with over 730hp in my JET BOAT. BTW Cyclone..Are those Westech Dyno #'s..... :D :D :D

[396_WAYS_TO_SPIT]

dmontzsta:
smart chicks know the rooster slows you down and is only show off. besides, REAL boats dont need a jacuzzi pump to throw water up in the air. When your lil ole' weedwacker can out roost me then we can talk argue You cant tell me shit because i grew up on a v-drive and I know what they can do! You guys will never be able to throw the roost for the ladies like the way we do wink
396- one mean ass rooster throwin' mutha****a :D

[Sangster]

Oh my God.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[MAXIMUS]

Sangster:
Oh my God.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: lol... U know ur jeleous... :D

[dmontzsta]

396_WAYS_TO_SPIT:
dmontzsta:
smart chicks know the rooster slows you down and is only show off. besides, REAL boats dont need a jacuzzi pump to throw water up in the air. When your lil ole' weedwacker can out roost me then we can talk argue You cant tell me shit because i grew up on a v-drive and I know what they can do! You guys will never be able to throw the roost for the ladies like the way we do wink
396- one mean ass rooster throwin' mutha****a :D Funny that you actually think the ladies like that. I know all the ladies that go to the lake with me think it is the most "gayest" thing. Even sea doos squirt rooster tail.
Sucks that it sucks up power to do that.
All you jet boats can squirt your rooster tails and look funny as a V-Drive goes skipping by you. :D
I think you guys are jealous that you cant jump like we can! wink
[ September 03, 2003, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: dmontzsta ]

[checkmate76]

obviously this is a never-ending-battle between props and jets...hell its been going on for forty+ years now? I think its all about what the individual is looking for in a boat. top-speed flat-out hair-on-fire blasts down the river or a day of rooster-shootin river-tearing fun in the sun. either way we're all having fun on the water in our loud-ass hot-rod boats!!!! leavin the everyday-joe in the mist!! ha ha ha ha......
nuf said? ...na! :D :D :D :D

[cyclone]

RD- 4 trips in a row with no work needed. Hell, ever since i left Parker i've had zero problems. lol
:D

[MAXIMUS]

Yea you definitly need hair on your chest to play at parker... :p Except for RD :D

[MAXIMUS]

RiverDave:
cyclone:
RD- 4 trips in a row with no work needed. Hell, ever since i left Parker i've had zero problems. lol
:D don't make me ask around to see if your tellin true or not boy. wink :D
Maximus, I already have too much chest hair. wink :D
RD <--- Still waiting for a ride in your rig Maximus It will cost ya a G&T with a twist! :cool: & Bring your friend too! :) I owe her a squirt! :D No punt intended... lol

[cyclone]

RiverDave:
cyclone:
RD- 4 trips in a row with no work needed. Hell, ever since i left Parker i've had zero problems. lol
:D don't make me ask around to see if your tellin true or not boy. wink :D
Maximus, I already have too much chest hair. wink :D
RD <--- Still waiting for a ride in your rig Maximus ask whomever you like. i'm 4 for 4. i keep beating on the motor and it keeps on pushing my boat.

[Sangster]

cyclone:
RiverDave:
cyclone:
RD- 4 trips in a row with no work needed. Hell, ever since i left Parker i've had zero problems. lol
:D don't make me ask around to see if your tellin true or not boy. wink :D
Maximus, I already have too much chest hair. wink :D
RD <--- Still waiting for a ride in your rig Maximus ask whomever you like. i'm 4 for 4. i keep beating on the motor and it keeps on pushing my boat. Cyclone..Not to ruffle any feathers here...But with a 730hp deal your boat should run well..But you say you've done nothing to it the last 4 times out..Do you do plug reading or rejet the carbs..My 427ci.BBC put out approx 650hp maybe & we always ran the valves prior to running it & tune it before it was ran hard..you must be very lucky... :D :D :D When your luck runs out, that will probally be why....

[pops1]

checkmate76:
obviously this is a never-ending-battle between props and jets...hell its been going on for forty+ years now? I think its all about what the individual is looking for in a boat. top-speed flat-out hair-on-fire blasts down the river or a day of rooster-shootin river-tearing fun in the sun. either way we're all having fun on the water in our loud-ass hot-rod boats!!!! leavin the everyday-joe in the mist!! ha ha ha ha......
nuf said? ...na! :D :D :D :D DO YOU WORK FOR GRAY DAVIS- THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE WE SHOULD ALL GET ALONG STUFF.
LET ME BREAK THE RULE-
PROPS THOSE LIMB CHOPPING,HOLE DIGGING BOATS THAT TAKE FOREVER TO LAUNCH & LEAVE. YOU CAN HEAR THEM WAY UPSTREAM 2 HOURS BEFORE YOU EVEN HEAR THE EXHUAST FROM THE GEAR WIND & STUFFING BOXES.
BE SAFE WITH YOUR KID's -JUST SAY NO TO PROPS.-
Besides you will get there quicker in you JET, which leaves you more time for lunch.
argue

[Sangster]

pops1.....Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning???

[058]

Pops1 must be pissed or hard of hearing 'cause he's always yelling whenever he posts...Pops...Kill the caps!!! idea :D

[schiada96]

pops1:
checkmate76:
obviously this is a never-ending-battle between props and jets...hell its been going on for forty+ years now? I think its all about what the individual is looking for in a boat. top-speed flat-out hair-on-fire blasts down the river or a day of rooster-shootin river-tearing fun in the sun. either way we're all having fun on the water in our loud-ass hot-rod boats!!!! leavin the everyday-joe in the mist!! ha ha ha ha......
nuf said? ...na! :D :D :D :D DO YOU WORK FOR GRAY DAVIS- THIS SOUNDS LIKE THE WE SHOULD ALL GET ALONG STUFF.
LET ME BREAK THE RULE-
PROPS THOSE LIMB CHOPPING,HOLE DIGGING BOATS THAT TAKE FOREVER TO LAUNCH & LEAVE. YOU CAN HEAR THEM WAY UPSTREAM 2 HOURS BEFORE YOU EVEN HEAR THE EXHUAST FROM THE GEAR WIND & STUFFING BOXES.
BE SAFE WITH YOUR KID's -JUST SAY NO TO PROPS.-
Besides you will get there quicker in you JET, which leaves you more time for lunch.
argue Yeh right get in a jet and try on the average weekend at Parker to get from the dam to the Bluewater. The v-dive cruser driver will have had 3 drinks by the time the jet gets there :p

[cyclone]

sangster- we were talking about the boat breaking down. Of course i've had to re-lash the valves and do the regular maintenance. My point is that i've literally beat the piss out of this motor with zero mechanical failures. I run it wide open every chance i get. Hell, at the CBBB event HBJet, myself and Tom Bandy nearly drag raced the entire river back from Topoc Gorge to the Avi hotel. At one point HB and I stood on the pedal for over a mile and neither of our motors even hiccuped. aside from an intake manifold gasket leak, i've hurt nothing on this motor.

[Bense468]

cyclone:
i've hurt nothing on this motor. Now the pump, well thats a different story.
So did you find out how bad your impellar was Mike? Whats up is it fixable or is it time for a stainless? Did it mess up the bowl or wear ring at all?
[ September 05, 2003, 02:32 PM: Message edited by: Bense468 ]

[dmontzsta]

cyclone:
sangster- we were talking about the boat breaking down. Of course i've had to re-lash the valves and do the regular maintenance. My point is that i've literally beat the piss out of this motor with zero mechanical failures. I run it wide open every chance i get. Hell, at the CBBB event HBJet, myself and Tom Bandy nearly drag raced the entire river back from Topoc Gorge to the Avi hotel. At one point HB and I stood on the pedal for over a mile and neither of our motors even hiccuped. aside from an intake manifold gasket leak, i've hurt nothing on this motor. We ran our V-Drive with NO problems whatsover bought it in 96 and didnt start having problems until 2003. It is still using the original Top loader gear box and we have replaced a few things and hope to go another span.

[Kurtis500]

Besides you will get there quicker in you JET, which leaves you more time for lunch.You'll have plenty of time for lunch, since you run a jet you'll be out first round. :D :D
where you been pops?

[Jet Hydro]

Kurtis500:
Besides you will get there quicker in you JET, which leaves you more time for lunch.You'll have plenty of time for lunch, since you run a jet you'll be out first round. :D :D
where you been pops? I run a jet and I`v never went out on the first round! As a matter of fact I`v never lost to a V-Drive ether. ((YET))...lol... :p :D

[Kurtis500]

Jet Hydro:
Kurtis500:
Besides you will get there quicker in you JET, which leaves you more time for lunch.You'll have plenty of time for lunch, since you run a jet you'll be out first round. :D :D
where you been pops? I run a jet and I`v never went out on the first round! As a matter of fact I`v never lost to a V-Drive ether. ((YET))...lol... :p :D Bring your boat to Firebird next month. :D Be a part of the big show.

[058]

Jet Hydro:
Kurtis500:
Besides you will get there quicker in you JET, which leaves you more time for lunch.You'll have plenty of time for lunch, since you run a jet you'll be out first round. :D :D
where you been pops? I run a jet and I`v never went out on the first round! As a matter of fact I`v never lost to a V-Drive ether. ((YET))...lol... :p :D Ya gotta race one to loose to one first! :D :D :D Then ya can say ya got beat by a v-drive wink

[FryJet]

Now why is ALL the v-drive guys say bring it to the races????? I know lights tell the truth but the river races seem like alot more fun and you can cruise around during the day but I guess that would really upset the system if you (V-drives) ran up on anything huh? Im sorry but the jets are the most bang for the buck and the most trouble free rigs on the water, like it or not. Im in it for the fun and worry free deal and the only thing that gets hurt when I hit a sandbar is my pride, not the boat. You guys can say you dont make mistakes like that but it happens to everybody, even though you wont admit it, bottom line. We all have fun right? Its all about what you want. I want a daycruiser to sit and watch all you guys bicker about who is faster. wink Have fun but learn how to not take it so seriously, lifes to short.
F.J.

[058]

We say bring it to the races because when the Green flag drops the bullshit stops. argue You jetters fan those flames just as much as us V-drivers. Go back and re-read this [and others like them, like the flame war going on in the V-drive forum] you'll see what I am talking about. wink

[LVjetboy]

I see Kurtis and O58 posting the usual one-liner v-drive crapola.
I say you're both welcome here...and you know I'll be visiting your forum time-to-time spreading jet boat truth backed by fact.
Back to topic. Sangster's comment interesting. Most jets run 400 hp and v's run more? So less reliable? Makes sense, engine reliability a function of power (and builder) instead of drive type. I'm not sure a gearbox-prop combo is any harder on engines or less reliable than a pump. But speed's also a function of power...so if your typical v has more power than your typical jet, no wonder v's all go 100 mph. :) Thanks for clearing that up Sangster.
As for the best reason to have a jet?
Quality lake time.
Not that a v can't be fun or fast. But consider a jet with full interior, mufflers, stereo and blender running 100 mph with 750 hp. Next to it a v with one fiberglass bucket seat, zoomies, huge gearbox and lone tach in the middle of the dash that runs 115 with 750 hp. Which would I pick? No contest. At those speeds, how many lake guys really care about an extra 10-15 mph?
To me, quality lake time includes both speed and party time. Music, etc. is a big part of that enjoyment. With the same power as the v, I can be king of the lake nearly everday of the week except when the race boats run. If they spend most of their time on trailers then I get to be king more than them.
As for the risk of underwater gear? A valid point, although not the whole picture. One way or another, many of us spend lots of money on our hot boats. But let's just say it's way less stressful driving a jet deep into an unknown cove for some quality lake time than a boat with a $$ prop hanging down. Considering that, jetters end up going deeper.
I've skimmed over a submirged rock near Callville Bay at night (wakeless speed) that would've totaled a fragile prop and shaft for sure. Only a gel coat gouge for the jet. My expensive impeller and shaft protected and safe. I bet even a v-driver with their claimed x-ray vision wouldn't have seen that one coming. Of course, since they're all so smart they trailer their racers before sunset, it may be a mute point. But then again they miss those sunset-moonlight cruises...just another form of quality lake time...compliments of the boat best suited to the passion:
A jet
:)
...and come to think of it, a jet tail IS pretty impressive...
http://users.lvcm.com/lvjetboy/JetRoost.gif
jer
[ September 07, 2003, 02:35 AM: Message edited by: LVjetboy ]

[FryJet]

058:
We say bring it to the races because when the Green flag drops the bullshit stops. argue You jetters fan those flames just as much as us V-drivers. Go back and re-read this [and others like them, like the flame war going on in the V-drive forum] you'll see what I am talking about. wink You know, that tread started out as a legitament deal but then got blown way out of shape buy alot of huffy prop guys. Yea, I did re-read the post so what are you saying?
F.J.

[LVjetboy]

FryJet,
Thanks for the tip on the v-drive thread. I'll go check it out.
jer

[F N Fast]

Come to think of it, I haven't ever lost to a V Drive either. Anyday of the week, deep or shallow water.
http://www.havasubarney.com/forums/uploads/post-7-1062465097.jpg
[ September 07, 2003, 11:32 AM: Message edited by: F N Fast ]

[Kurtis500]

...and come to think of it, a jet tail IS pretty impressive...But its NO COMPARISON to a REAL roost. What IS impressive is a V-DRIVE rooster tail. See below.
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/524/702_11_IHBA_4888_131-med.jpg

[LVjetboy]

I agree. Nobody matches THOSE tails. But can any lake v's do that?
:)
jer

[dmontzsta]

All in all, there are fast boats that are jets and v-drives, but the majority are v-drives. I JUST got back from Perris and it was pretty funny to see this white jet boat off the side doing around 20mph with a rooster tail :confused: he was all eyes as we went soaring out of the water at around 60mph. I am not saying my boat is the fastest, FAR FROM IT! there are some FAST boats here. But I had no problems with it at all, made 8 HARD trips around the lake, airborne half the time and put it on the trailer, wiped it off and parked it in the garage. I also banked some red jet boat...anyone here? with a KN can on top!
BTW: Last time I went to the lake my father had to help a jetter get his boat started and help set the timing on stuff on another one. Like I said there are fast jets and vdrives and also problem free jets and vdrives and both with problems. All motors will have issues sometimes, you cant go forever turning the key hassle free. :)

[Sangster]

LVjetboy:
I agree. Nobody matches THOSE tails. But can any lake v's do that?
:)
jer Almost...
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/500/118x8-med.jpg

[Wild Man]

Well, no one ever answered my question directly but it seems the main reason for a jet is safe and simple. Good for me my main use is not speed.
Hey dmontsta,
You need any FE parts? I have an old merc 410 Police intercepter motor that has good heads crank, pistons, if you pay shipping I'll send them. I want them out of my garage and just want someone to use them.

[dmontzsta]

Wild Man you've got PM sir. :)

[Jet Hydro]

058:
Ya gotta race one to loose to one first! :D :D D Then ya can say ya got beat by a v-drive wink [/QB]I`v raced a lot of them, I get the hole shot and they get the trailer! It`s all good to me because we all still have fun.
I`m still ROTFLMAO about this guy in Ponca City Okla. last year bitching to the starting barge about having to race me. He said it wasn't fair because "I would get the hole shot on his flat" the starter said "SO, That`s racing" The guy in the flat said that if I get out front he wont be able to see because my hydro was a jet and the spray would make it where he couldn't see. Must really suck to know your not going to win right off the starting line...lol...
058 what number do you leave on? I leave on a 5 1/2. Most flat`s I see at the races leave on a 6 to a 6 1/2. At Fort Worth this year I caught a .002 red off a 5 1/2. The PM`s were leaving on the same number I was leaving on in my RR1 ..lol.. I went up to the timer when Daryl Ehrlich stopped me and told me "that was one of the hardest hole shot`s he`s seen from a jet boat!" I told him that the clock`s were hot because there was no way I could cut a red leaving on the same number as the PM`s. He told me to put someone in my boat and stand where he was( on the Starting Line), then I would see how hard it leaves the line.
There`s nothing wrong with V-Drives they just dont work where I want to go play. I will soon own a Kirts V-Drive Hydro but I`ll still have my jet boat`s too! Who know`s I might even put a jet pump in the Kirts and run TFJ...lol...

[dmontzsta]

058 has the slowest V-Drives on this board. :)
You should race him, you will win. :)
[ September 08, 2003, 10:29 AM: Message edited by: dmontzsta ]

[pops1]

Jet Hydro:
I will soon own a Kirts V-Drive Hydro but I`ll still have my jet boat`s too! Who know`s I might even put a jet pump in the Kirts and run TFJ...lol... See your still having fun-Dave

[HotHallet]

Jet Hydro- Where did you get that pic of that 21 Schiada V-drive resting on the shore? The reason I ask is I have a friend that has a 21 Schiada that looks very similar to that boat and want to find out if it was hinm. Where was that taken or was it created?

[Jet Hydro]

you need to ask HBjet as he`s the one that did his home work this time :D

[OSUman]

is jet boat brian anywhere? I am looking at buying a 21' edge phantom and want to know some things :)

[schiada96]

HotHallet:
Jet Hydro- Where did you get that pic of that 21 Schiada V-drive resting on the shore? The reason I ask is I have a friend that has a 21 Schiada that looks very similar to that boat and want to find out if it was hinm. Where was that taken or was it created? That picture was taken at the lagoon at needles, don't know who it belongs to.

[LVjetboy]

Ok, I am new to jet boating, always had straight IB,s. I have been wondering, other then the shallow water running what is the point of a Jet?I think I answered that above. Please read again more carefully and respond.
Seems to me if you are after speed, all else being equal the same moter (my edit, moter = motor = engine) in a v-drive would be faster. Assuming the v is set up right and similar in weight and hull efficiency...I'd say yes. Wildman, are you reading this thread carefully? Or just responding from your i/o slant?
For sking a prop seems to pull skiers up faster.Faster than a what? Be specific. Faster than a jet? Come on now. Think about it Wildman. Jets are known for acceleration from zero. Typical of pulling up a skier right? Have you driven a jet and know for a fact how they pull? Have you towed a skier with a jet? If so and can't pull your jet needs big time work. Just wondering.
I had a (male) inexperienced skier say I was, "pulling his arms out." Go figure. Not that I was, just that he thought I was. Loud header noise intimidating and all. First time he skied a jet.
Pulling up has to do with force on the ski rope which depends on forward thrust from zero speed...the talent of jet boats. But I used way (as in WAAAY) less than full throttle. And I've pulled many a female skier up with less upper arm strength at that throttle so I know I wasn't "pulling his arms out" A matter of perception or excuse for inexperience? I've skied behind a prop and now ski behind my jet and get pulled up with my wife driving...arms still attached. Go figure. First time she floored it and didn't slow down until over 50 mph. I can say for a fact that a jet will pull you the f*ck up and quick!!
http://users.lvcm.com/lvjetboy/WaterSki.gif
So I'm not sure where your comment on props "pulling a skier up faster" come from. Unless of course you have a weak-ass jet that needs big time work??? But then you did say your experience is from "straight IB,s" which I'm assuming is I/O's and not jets?
jer
[ September 09, 2003, 12:39 AM: Message edited by: LVjetboy ]

[pops1]

OSUman:
is jet boat brian anywhere? I am looking at buying a 21' edge phantom and want to know some things :) Try to find the article in Hot Boat on the 21 edge- "Jet Boat Guru" 2-3 years ago. 468 Upper 84-87 MPH- I was there all Testing done by Hot Boat-(Kevin) "Its Strong" and was a Sunday Ride.

[Wild Man]

LV,
Yes I am reading, must have missed your reply though, I do agree with you. I need to be able to use this boat for more then speed, the better half couldn't care less about flying across a lake.
I should make a couple of things clear, I have bought a jet "project" someone got tired of. So I have been reading these threads to learn about these as I will be finishing it up this winter and want to get it set up for my use.
As for the comment on pulling skiers up I am talking about what I have seen. I have always skied behind boats like Master Craft or Correct craft ski boats. These are typlicaly small block powered, motor sets in the middle, straight output shaft. It seems like any time I seen a jet pull up a skier or two (granted now a days in my area jets are far and few between) it always looked like the jet was not pulling them out very easy. As I read this I see I might not be descibing this right. Of course I have no idea on these boat settups.
Don't get me wrong, I think jets are cool, and pretty dam simple (that is why I bought one). I like the looks/purpose of a v-drive also but they just don't fit my purpose. Both types are rare around here. If your wondering why I didn't buy a correct craft or master, way to much money or they have a ton of hours.
BTW
What did you do to piss the wife off????
LOL

[Jet Hydro]

Now back to the topic at hand here...lol...
Just one more reason to own a jet boat. :D
Pro Eliminator High Points was won by a jet boat again for the second year in a row!
Now I bet he had to race a few V-Drives to win the Championship..lol... :p :D

[Kurtis500]

Jet Hydro:
Now back to the topic at hand here...lol...
Just one more reason to own a jet boat. :D
Pro Eliminator High Points was won by a jet boat again for the second year in a row!
Now I bet he had to race a few V-Drives to win the Championship..lol... :p :D And top fuel was won by a v-drive again. Probably had to race a bunch of them 230 mph Jet Hydros for the title too. smile_sp yuk

[schiada96]

Kurtis500:
Jet Hydro:
Now back to the topic at hand here...lol...
Just one more reason to own a jet boat. :D
Pro Eliminator High Points was won by a jet boat again for the second year in a row!
Now I bet he had to race a few V-Drives to win the Championship..lol... :p :D And top fuel was won by a v-drive again. Probably had to race a bunch of them 230 mph Jet Hydros for the title too. smile_sp yuk You beat me to it
[ September 10, 2003, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: schiada96 ]

[MAXIMUS]

Schiada 96 u commin out to red rock for the regatta??? I will be down on wednesday afternoon! We could do a jet vs v-drive deal...& then rejoice with some cervesa's (provided by the 2nd place boat! :D ) smile_sp
[ September 10, 2003, 04:52 PM: Message edited by: MAXIMUS ]

[Jet Hydro]

Funny you bring up that 230mph factor...lol... How many passes can they make in one weekend? :rolleyes:
I remember about three years a go, I should have showed up at the worlds finals because at worst I would have left with a 2nd in the TFH Class...ROTFLMAO
The West Coast V-Drive guy`s sure get their feelings hurt easy... yuk LOL :p :D

[Jet Hydro]

BTW Kurtis500 what class do you run that red boat in ??? it isn't PE is it?

[schiada96]

MAXIMUS:
Schiada 96 u commin out to red rock for the regatta??? I will be down on wednesday afternoon! We could do a jet vs v-drive deal...& then rejoice with some cervesa's (provided by the 2nd place boat! :D ) smile_sp It dosent look good. I'm workin on it!

[MAXIMUS]

schiada96:
MAXIMUS:
Schiada 96 u commin out to red rock for the regatta??? I will be down on wednesday afternoon! We could do a jet vs v-drive deal...& then rejoice with some cervesa's (provided by the 2nd place boat! :D ) smile_sp It dosent look good. I'm workin on it! frown

[LVjetboy]

Wildman,
Her first pull and she didn't know the speed thing. I finally just let go and she kept going. Was hoping she'd look back...no spotter...lake deserted...we were young. Eventually she did come back but much later divorced me for "loving my jet more than her" But that's another story.
I've been pulled by props but never Master or Correct. My guess is a good jet can pull as hard as a prop. Maybe more turbulence in the center...especially with a short line. Slalom no big deal. Not drive related, but when I switched to the tunnel PC hull I noticed a big difference in wake size. As in very small. Cut right through...way easier on the legs.
jer
[ September 12, 2003, 08:22 PM: Message edited by: LVjetboy ]