HOLLEY MECH FUEL PUMP

[77468sleekcraft]

UNFORTUNATLY I PUT A NEW HOLLEY FUEL PUMP ON MY BOAT AND IT ENDED UP RUINING MY WEEKEND,THE DAMN THING DIDNT WORK,NO FREAKING GAS AT ALL.YOU GUYS HAD ANY PROBLEMS LIKE THIS OR ANY SUGGESTIONS.....DAMN I HATE IT WHEN THE OLD SAYING -IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT BITES ME IN THE ASS,WELL IM SURE YOU ALL KNOW THAT ONE... :confused:

[Cas]

I know this is a dumb question but did you pull the plugs out of the fitting holes?
Did you prime it first?
I installed one a couple of years ago and haven't have any problems at all.

[DUCKY]

On a BBC, I think it is possible to bolt the pump down and not have the push rod against the pump arm, if you force it. Trick is to use wheel bearing grease to hold the push rod up in the hole. Another idea is that you have the inlet and outlet reversed, since the lower housing can be rotated on most Holley pumps. Adn finally, one or more of the check valves inside the pump could be stuck. You should not be able to blow through the outlet side of the pump, or suck through the inlet side. If ou can do either, then the littel valves are stuck.
Good Luck!

[Bahner18]

Hay Man, I did have the same problem but twice as bad because I have a Holly red for motor and Holly black for my NOS. The issue is two things
#1 The pump needs to be mounted as low as possible
#2 You must take the anti siphin valves out of the tank fitting and go with a traditional 90, because the pump will not suck fuel but pushes it.
This will solve your problems for good, It did for me.

[Hal]

What kind of pump. Mech or electric? Its always a good idea to fire it up after you make any changes to your set up. Hope you got it going. :)

[Bahner18]

OOOPS
Didnt realize you were talking about a mech. fuel pump. I was refering to electric. But you still may have a problem with the anti-siphin valves in the tanks
Sorry Good luck

[Bahner18]

Hay hal!! How was your weekend, Man the lake was as busy as spring break in Havasu!! Not much driving just lots of drinking

[77468sleekcraft]

NO I HAVNT FIXED IT YET ,WHY SHOULD YOU HAVE TO PRIME IT ,IVE RAN OUT OF GAS WITH THE OLD PUMP AND JUST PUT MORE GAS IN IT AND IT WORKED.IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THE HOLLEY.I DID PUT MY FINGER ON THE INLET AND TURNED IT OVER AND IT DIDNT FEEL LIKE I WAS GETTING ANY SUCTION.I DONT KNOW I THINK MAYBE I GOT A DEFECTIVE PUMP MAYBE I SHOULD PUT ON AN ELECTRIC PUMP WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK???????? :confused:

[sleekster]

i would go with a holley black electric fuel pump.
of course a regulator and gauge also.

[AZKC]

I'm using one and it works fine, take it off and double/triple ck your installation. Remember shit happens :cool:
KC

[Jet Hydro]

DUCKY:
On a BBC, I think it is possible to bolt the pump down and not have the push rod against the pump arm, if you force it. Trick is to use wheel bearing grease to hold the push rod up in the hole. It`s real easy to get the rod on the back side of the pump arm.
I would check that first! I`v never seen one that wouldn't pump at all unless you had the rod on the side of the arm.

[Schiada76]

Dumb question but did you check the flow direction?
I installed a Clay Smith pump once and didn't notice the little flow arrow (old eyes) had to flip the base around to match my fuel lines. Worked great then, it is the same basic design as the Holly. :D
[ May 29, 2003, 11:27 AM: Message edited by: BradP ]

[Rexone]

I don't ever remember having a defective new Holley Mech pump, something just doesn't seem right here on the install. (not saying it couldn't happen) :)

[77468sleekcraft]

WELL I JUST GOT A CHANCE TO LOOK AT MY OLD PUMP AND IT SURE DOES LOOK LIKE THE ARM STICKS OUT WAY FURTHER THAN WHAT I AM REMEMBERING THE HOLLEY DID,WONT HAVE A CHANCE TO COMPARE THEM SIDE BY SIDE UNTILL THIS WEEKEND BUT IM REALLY THINKING SOMETHING ISNT RIGHT.I THINK THE HOLLEY ARM STUCK OUT ABOUT AN INCH AND MY OLD ONE ABOUT 2 INCHES ???? WHATS UP WITH THAT,,,???? :confused:

[Rexone]

I DON'T THINK YOU EVER MENTIONED WHAT ENGINE YOU HAVE. IF YOU HAVE THE INCORRECT PUMP FOR THE ENGINE THEREIN MAY LIE THE PROBLEM. MIGHT STILL BOLT ON BUT NOT BE CORRECT ARM CONFIG. MORE INFO PLEASE. :D
(I'M KINDA LIKING THESE CAPS, WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?) :D
[ May 30, 2003, 01:13 AM: Message edited by: Rexone ]

[77468sleekcraft]

YEA OK ITS A BBC 468,,,,, OR 454 RIGHT,RIGHT.THE WHOLE SITUATION IS KIND OF PISSING ME OFF.BUT YOU NOW WHAT YOU GONNA DO BUT FIX IT..OR JUST YARD THE PUMPS AND GO ELECTRIC.. jawdrop

[Rexone]

Those Holley's normally work very well. Something's not right. Do you know the part number off the new pump you installed?

[77468sleekcraft]

SO REX YOU OWN A HOT ROD SHOP COOL IVE GOT A 78 TRANS AM THAT WILL PULL THE FRONT WHEELS AND CARRY THEM OH,,,,MAYBE ABOUT 3---5 FEET DEPENDING ON TRACTION OF COURSE... :D

[77468sleekcraft]

NO NOT RIGHT OFF HAND MY BOATS AT MY CABIN ,,BUT ILL BE THERE THIS WEEKEND TO DO BATTLE AGAIN.. :D

[77468sleekcraft]

BY THE WAY IS THAT A DAN OLSEN SCOOP ON YOUR BOAT.. :confused:

[Rexone]

Yes I have a little shop we sell a few boat parts and misc speed equip. Let me know on the pump and I'll make sure you got the correct one. :)

[Rexone]

That scoop was kinda patterned after an olson but actually made by alpha marine way back around 1978. Don't have that boat anymore either frown

[Rexone]

I'm thinkin on that pump you mighta got a small block by mistake and the arm isn't as long but it would still bolt on the big block I think but not engage. Just a thought.

[77468sleekcraft]

I TOOK A SCOOP LIKE THAT WELL ITS AN OLSEN AND TIGED A COUPLE OF ALUMINUM VELOCITY STACKS TO IT ,,,,,VERY COOL LOOKING OUTCOME IN MY OPINION,,..

[77468sleekcraft]

YOU KNOW I CAN REMEMBER THAT THE NUMBERS ON THE PUMP DID HAVE A 454 IN THEM AND THAT WAS MAKING ME THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT ONE .... :confused:

[Rexone]

Sounds cool, don't let Jordy see that or he'll be after it like a dog in heat. lol.

[Rexone]

77468sleekcraft:
YOU KNOW I CAN REMEMBER THAT THE NUMBERS ON THE PUMP DID HAVE A 454 IN THEM AND THAT WAS MAKING ME THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT ONE .... :confused: If it had a 454 in it it would be correct, like
12-454 or 12-454-1 or 12-454-2 or 712-454-2, you get the jist. Did it bolt on easily or did you have to force anything when you bolted it down to the block?

[77468sleekcraft]

NO IT WAS VERY EASY..

[Rexone]

77468sleekcraft:
NO IT WAS VERY EASY.. So I take that as that you had no problem getting the fuel pump pushrod to stay up in it's hole while you installed the fuel pump.
Did you check the in and out markings on the pump housing to make sure you have the in to the in and the out to the out correctly? These pumps bodies can be rotated 180º and that is a possibility.

[77468sleekcraft]

SO DO YOU KNOW WHO THE SKAGENS ARE OVER HERE IN THE SEATTLE AREA..

[Rexone]

77468sleekcraft:
SO DO YOU KNOW WHO THE SKAGENS ARE OVER HERE IN THE SEATTLE AREA.. Yes we've done business with them for years.

[77468sleekcraft]

YEA I AM PRETTY CONFIDENT I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT BUT WHO KNOWS ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE,,BUT IVE GOT TO SAY PUTTING A FUEL PUMP ON ISNT REALLY ANYTHING NEW TO ME... :D

[Rexone]

I know it's pretty basic. Usually problems like this turn out to be something pretty basic though. You may have just got that one in a thousand bad pump too. Good luck with it. :)

[77468sleekcraft]

YEA THEY WERE THE ONES WHO POINTED ME IN THE DIRECTION OF GETTING MY BOAT,AND IM PRETTY THANKFUL FOR THAT CAUSE I THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PRETTY HARD TO FIND ANYTHING BETTER--WELL WITHIN REASON..AND THE HAVE DONE THE WORK ON MY PUMP AND SOME ON THE FINE TUNEING..

[Chris J]

Short arm sounds like a small block pump. was the number you seen on the box or pump. Also occationally you will have to prime a new pump the first time. Even when you run out of fuel the pump is not completely dry like a new pump. Just losen the connection to the carb and direct the hose to a empty pop bottle while cranking over the engine.

[Jet Hydro]

BBC pump arm is 1 3/4" out from the body while the SBC arm is 1 1/4"
Picture of a Big Block Chevy HOLLEY Pump Arm
http://www.***boat.com/image_center/data/520/208P1010383-med.JPG
[ May 30, 2003, 12:18 PM: Message edited by: Jet Hydro ]

[77468sleekcraft]

HEY THANKS,YEA I WOULD SAY MINE IS DEFINATLY NOT OUT THAT FAR....DAMN I WONDER WHAT THE DEAL IS.... eek!

[Taylor LP]

The pic posted by Jet Hydro is exactly like the one I put in mine last year with no problem. The part # like you said had 454 in the middle. No part # on the pump itself. Always the possibility that the wrong pump was in the box with the right #. :confused:

[77468sleekcraft]

YEA I DONT KNOW ITS COMMING OFF THIS WEEKEND AND PUTTING ON THE OLD PUMP JUST TO MAKE SURE THEN I WIIL TRY TO GET REFUND ON PUMP.THEN WILL PROBABLY GO ELECTRIC,,, WHAT DO GUYS THINK????? argue

[Taylor LP]

I think you'll be more than happy with the Holley mechanical. Remember the K.I.S.S. principle.
You just need to get the right one.

[Rexone]

I agree stay with the mechanical :)

[BrendellaJet]

Ive got an electric on mine, its just a little holley red, Ill need to change it out for a bigger one, but it has worked very well for me. I have heard that they can die though, so keep a mechanical with you just in case.

[77468sleekcraft]

COOL THANKS ALOT GUYS.... :D CHRIS