SNOW?? Already?

[Wet Dream]

I figured it was going to snow before Halloween, but not yet. Possible SNOW SHOWERS on Thursday morning. Holy shit...it's going to be a long winter.

[HammerDown]

Wet Dream:
I figured it was going to snow before Halloween, but not yet. Possible SNOW SHOWERS on Thursday morning. Holy shit...it's going to be a long winter. So much for our Indian summer...it went from the mid 90's down to the high 50's.
So where's the Frosty Ball Gathering :D

[DansBlown73Nordic]

I need to get the sleds out.... eek! :p

[Rexone]

wtf you guys talkin about. It was 92 here today. :D

[Freak]

No kidding I can't believe the leaves are changing and lots are already falling.

[MANIC MECHANIC]

33 Degrees and frost in my area this morning. :mad: Tim

[miketsouth]

HammerDown:
Wet Dream:
I figured it was going to snow before Halloween, but not yet. Possible SNOW SHOWERS on Thursday morning. Holy shit...it's going to be a long winter. So much for our Indian summer...it went from the mid 90's down to the high 50's.
So where's the Frosty Ball Gathering :D Seneca, today at 5pm or so

[roln 20s]

wtf you guys talkin about. It was 92 here today.
Is snow that white stuff that falls from the sky, wouldn't know since its a mild 105 degrees today in beautiful Phx!
Roln 20s

[Wet Dream]

roln 20s:
Is snow that white stuff that falls from the sky, wouldn't know since its a mild 105 degrees today in beautiful Phx!
Roln 20s May you be striken by heatstroke. :D j/k wink

[HavasuDreamin']

Time to bust out the jackets and head to the lake for some fall boating. :) I think I am going to wait until it hits the 60 degree mark though. wink There won't be a soul on the lake. smile_sp

[DansBlown73Nordic]

Thats the problem. If you go out now you will be the only one on the hole LAKE. If you break down they may find you in the spring. eek!

[HavasuDreamin']

Dans66Stevens:
If you break down they may find you in the spring. eek! Just don't break down then. wink :D

[DansBlown73Nordic]

Its pretty warm here today. wink Its about 50. eek!

[26 QUEST]

Its going to get to 27 deg. tomorrow night in wis. I think I might winterize when I get home from work!

[DansBlown73Nordic]

Bud you better winterize it tonight. eek!

[shirkey4750]

Had snow flurries at Snowshoe ski resort the other night.

[HammerDown]

All this talk about Snow is making me want to look for a tall tree and a short rope :p

[fat rat]

I think it's time to winterize.......I actually started when I left Raystown. eek! Hey Hammer no more tall tree short rope talk.......winter is a good time to get caught up on things around the house, for example keeping the driveway and sidewalks shoveled. :D

[Tahiti Owner]

winter is also a good time to go riding the sleds...bring on the cold and snow I say!

[Erie Baja]

1/4 inch fell last night. Doesn't sound like much, but it sucks none the less. Time to rap it up for the winter.
I don't miss winter since we started drag racing our sleds on grass tracks every other weekend.
I hope a few guys still make it to Ceasars Creek on Oct. 19. I just got my jet's engine back together for that day. Cold air isn't bad as long as you ain't wet!

[Mr.Havasu]

So what do you need to do to winterize?
My kids just bought a house near dans66stevens on lake cayuga, NY. We just gave them a boat with an outboard 125 Evenrude. Do they need to do anything special to it before they put it away for the winter.
Hear in Havasu we just boat all year so there is no need to winterize. :cool:

[HammerDown]

warlock25:
So what do you need to do to winteriz? We just gave them a boat with an outboard 125 Evenrude. :cool: With an outboard its pretty simple...run the motor with fuel stabilizer in the tank...fog down the motor...the water drains out automatically when on the trailer so no chance of "block cracking"...and you could drain and put in fresh oil for the lower unit.
Is this a 2 stroke engine?

[Mr.Havasu]

I'm not sure, I know you have to mix the oil with the gas,

[HammerDown]

warlock25:
I'm not sure, I know you have to mix the oil with the gas, 2 stroke. No biggie

[DansBlown73Nordic]

Warlock, they have a very nice place up there.
The gas addative is pretty important. Im not sure if this true everywhere but the gas around here goes bad fast.

[DansBlown73Nordic]

Gas left behind will turn to this green slime. yuk Then come spring the carbs will be plugged.

[Mr.Havasu]

Thanks guys, I'll send them this info so they can protect their little boat for next year.

[TCHB]

You guys are making me feel guilty. We are going to Havasu on Friday and the temp is around 100 with water temp 80 degrees.

[HammerDown]

TCHB:
You guys are making me feel guilty. We are going to Havasu on Friday and the temp is around 100 with water temp 80 degrees. The Term "Go West young man" never made more sence.
For me winter's getting harder and harder to deal with. yuk

[Rexone]

Not alot of snow here yet. 90º today. :D

[Dr. Eagle]

Rexone:
Not alot of snow here yet. 90º today. :D Yes and it is supposed to be 85 here in beautiful northern california today...

[MANIC MECHANIC]

You West coast guys are so cruel! May your edge of the continent never fall off into the ocean! wink Tim

[Rexone]

Coolin off, only 85 today. frown

[HammerDown]

Rexone:
Coolin off, only 85 today. :( Your killing me over here...I'm waiting for my Job application from Rex to show up any day!
(that should silence him) wink

[Dr. Eagle]

HammerDown:
Rexone:
Coolin off, only 85 today. :( Your killing me over here...I'm waiting for my Job application from Rex to show up any day!
(that should silence him) wink Worked like a charm, I'd say.

[HammerDown]

Dr. Eagle:
HammerDown:
Rexone:
Coolin off, only 85 today. :( Your killing me over here...I'm waiting for my Job application from Rex to show up any day!
(that should silence him) wink Worked like a charm, I'd say. LOL...Welded his lips closed, and cut off his typing fingers is more like it. :D

[Rexone]

only 82 today :( damn chill in the air I tell ya :D

[Hotcrusader76]

Ya know it was almost cold enough to turn the AC off today. :D
[ October 16, 2003, 02:19 AM: Message edited by: Hotcrusader76 ]

[Dr. Eagle]

Yeah, only 84 in Norcal today...

[Rexone]

86º here today, warmin up a bit. :D
90º+ possibly by Sat I hear.
[ October 16, 2003, 07:51 PM: Message edited by: Rexone ]

[MANIC MECHANIC]

You guys just have to keep rubbing it in, don't you? Well, it might reach 65 here tomorrow, no earthquakes :rolleyes: ( well, we had a slight tremor,THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO!) and no tornado's. :D ENJOY! wink J/K.... Tim

[Dr. Eagle]

Heading to the Sacramento/San Joaquin Delta tomorrow for some boating, should be about 86 degrees...life it tough in Kleeforkneeahhh! Well it is cuz we have to pay so damn much for everything... but as for the weather...Sorry to all of you snow expecting guys and gals...

[Rexone]

MANIC MECHANIC:
You guys just have to keep rubbing it in, don't you? Well, it might reach 65 here tomorrow, no earthquakes :rolleyes: ( well, we had a slight tremor,THIRTY FIVE YEARS AGO!) and no tornado's. :D ENJOY! wink J/K.... Tim It gonna reach 65 today here too (oh wait sorry... that was the low)... :D

[DansBlown73Nordic]

Its about 45 here today.... cry

[Dr. Eagle]

Dude it was close to 90 up here in Norcal, definitely a chill in the air...

[Rexone]

93º here today. definately feelin like fall now. :D

[6 Dollar Boat]

It was a chilly 96 in Temecula (No. of San Diego) today, it may get down to 60 tonight. Maybe I should cover the flowers... :D :D :D

[MANIC MECHANIC]

Uh, Dr Eagle, Rexone, Six Dollar Boat: Bite me! :D J/K Tim

[Rexone]

MANIC MECHANIC:
Uh, Dr Eagle, Rexone, Six Dollar Boat: Bite me! :D J/K Tim :D
I'm putting my snow blower back in storage. 96º here today. :D Suppose to get cool next week though... mid 80's.

[Dr. Eagle]

Rexone:
MANIC MECHANIC:
Uh, Dr Eagle, Rexone, Six Dollar Boat: Bite me! :D J/K Tim :D
I'm putting my snow blower back in storage. 96º here today. :D Suppose to get cool next week though... mid 80's. Yeah, I think we will take the Ultra to Folsom Lake tomorrow and let the kid try out his Wake Board. It's supposed to be upper 80s tomorrow, so you know winter is just around the bend...

[Rexone]

I did scrape some ice out of my freezer the other day though... :D

[6 Dollar Boat]

Come on guys, give them a break, we miss out on all the beauty that winter brings. Things like the leaves falling in your rain gutters, buying one of those funny looking shovels every year. Oh and I almost forgot, driving on those salted roads really adds to the look of any car.
Just wanted you to see the forcast for Havasu. :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Sun
Oct 19 Mostly Sunny 101°/74° 0 %
Mon
Oct 20 Sunny 99°/75° 0 %
Tue
Oct 21 Sunny 99°/73° 20 %
Wed
Oct 22 Sunny 100°/71° 20 %
Thu
Oct 23 Sunny 99°/71° 20 %
Fri
Oct 24 Partly Cloudy 97°/69° 20 %
Sat
Oct 25 Sunny 93°/67° 0 %
Sun
Oct 26 Sunny 95°/68° 0 %
Mon
Oct 27 Mostly Sunny 92°/67° 0 %
Last Updated Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 8:31 PM Mountain Standard Time (Saturday, 11:31 PM EDT)

[Moomawnster]

We get snow , but..... YOU GET ARNOLD ! eek!

[Rexone]

We'll send you Gay Davis when he's done here, maybe he'd do a good job reporting weather? :D

[Moomawnster]

HehHeh ...... Well, we know he's good at a snow job !

[MANIC MECHANIC]

I really feel sorry for you west coast folks. How can you enjoy summer without winter? You don't get to enjoy: Cutting and splitting wood for the fireplace,Shoveling three feet of snow out of your driveway,parking the truck at the bottom of the driveway 'cause you STILL can't get up it,Then the plow comes by and piles another three feet across the end of the driveway, so you can't even get IN it,winterizing the house, boat and vehicles, frozen water lines, fuel lines,toes and fingers, dead batteries, Machinery frozen to the ground,getting stuck in the snow, (usually in the middle of nowhere)the power going out in the middle of the night, (Only on the COLDEST nights) I can hardly wait! I don't know how you live without it! wink Tim

[Cole 383]

Manic,
Where is that hell hole that you are talking about? I sure wouldn't want to live in a place like that. We don't have those kinds of problems over on my hill. The state road doesn't even come out here to plow us under.
I have your Smokin in the cove shirt at the office. Come by when you get a chance.
Later 383

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by MANIC MECHANIC
I really feel sorry for you west coast folks. How can you enjoy summer without winter? You don't get to enjoy: Cutting and splitting wood for the fireplace,Shoveling three feet of snow out of your driveway,parking the truck at the bottom of the driveway 'cause you STILL can't get up it,Then the plow comes by and piles another three feet across the end of the driveway, so you can't even get IN it,winterizing the house, boat and vehicles, frozen water lines, fuel lines,toes and fingers, dead batteries, Machinery frozen to the ground,getting stuck in the snow, (usually in the middle of nowhere)the power going out in the middle of the night, (Only on the COLDEST nights) I can hardly wait! I don't know how you live without it! wink Tim
Well the beauty of living where I do is that in 15 years here we have had snow about 3 times. But if I want the misery..er um uh beauty of snow, all I need do is drive about 30 miles up the road and there is a bumper crop of the white stuff. :D :D

[Dr. Eagle]

Check it out for yourself...
http://home.comcast.net/~folsomeweather/ (Folsom Weather)
90 degrees today. Beautiful. Took the jetskis over to the lake, took the boat there yesterday!

[Rexone]

96º here again today. :D
Suppose to have a cooling trend over the next few days, down into the 80's again..... burrrrrrrrr!. :(

[fat rat]

80's are actually perfect..................you can keep those 100's.:cool: Besdes without winter, what do you have to look forward to next spring.

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by fat rat
80's are actually perfect..................you can keep those 100's.:cool: Besdes without winter, what do you have to look forward to next spring.
We get winter, just not as strong, long or soon! I expect that by the end of October the weather will finally turn here and it will be time to get busy on the boating projects instead of the boating.
Todays weather, 92 degrees...no shit! :D :cool: :cool: :D

[MANIC MECHANIC]

74 here ysterday:D 70 today:) 51 tomorrow:( but not a hint of an earthquake! j/k Tim

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by MANIC MECHANIC
74 here ysterday:D 70 today:) 51 tomorrow:( but not a hint of an earthquake! j/k Tim
Nice weather. Supposed to be 91 here tomorrow, no earthquakes where I live (solid granite) and no hurricanes or tornados either! Might cool off into the mid 80s by the weekend. Gotta get out there and stack that firewood!:cool:

[Rexone]

101º and balmy here today. Very dry, was pretty nice for being that hot. I guess winter isn't quite here yet. ;)

[MANIC MECHANIC]

There's a fire in the fireplace tonight, 30 degrees here tonight, tomorrow's high, 42 :( Tim

[Wet Dream]

Well...it snowed here today. :rolleyes:
Nothing to get excited about, but you could see it.

[fat rat]

Originally posted by Wet Dream
Well...it snowed here today. :rolleyes:
Nothing to get excited about, but you could see it.
It didn't snow here,but sleated pretty good......about a 1/4". Low for the day 30.......high 49.....................still waiting for Indian Summer.:pig_flyi:

[MANIC MECHANIC]

We had a few scattered flurries over night. But today it's just windy and Cold . Tim

[6 Dollar Boat]

I feel bad for you guys, It's still HOT over here on the left coast. We always get some warm weather in Oct. but this is setting records. Supposed to be in the mid to high 80's till Nov.
By the way what exactly is sleet don't think I've ever seen that stuff.
Winterizing over here means you put another 12 pac in the cooler.:D :D :D
San Diego, CA 62...77 F
Temecula, CA 54...89 F
Boston, MA 35...44 F :frown:
Needles, CA 68...100 F :p

[Dr. Eagle]

Well guys sorry to do this to you all, I know it is snowing and sleeting back there:
Home > Local Forecast for Folsom, CA (95630)
As reported at Sacramento/Mather, CA Last Updated Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 9:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time (Friday, 12:55 AM EDT).
10-Day Forecast
Printable Forecast Daytime High /
Overnight Low (°F) Precip. %
Tonight
Oct 23 Clear 54° 0 %
Fri
Oct 24 Sunny 88°/57° 0 %
Sat
Oct 25 Sunny 89°/54° 20 %
Sun
Oct 26 Sunny 93°/59° 0 %
Mon
Oct 27 Sunny 96°/54° 0 %
Tue
Oct 28 Sunny 95°/53° 0 %
Wed
Oct 29 Sunny 90°/53° 0 %
Thu
Oct 30 Mostly Sunny 83°/54° 0 %
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Oct 31 Sunny 88°/58° 0 %
Sat
Nov 01 Mostly Sunny 83°/57° 0 %
Last Updated Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 8:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time (Thursday, 11:34 PM EDT)
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Looks like a good weekend on the lake!!!!
:D :D :D :D :D

[Rexone]

Winterizing here is taking a light jacket with you when you go out boating in case it cools off about 4PM. :D
Sorry you snowbies are just easy targets for us desert dwellers.
95º only here today (cooled off a little). Suppose to go back over 100º for Sunday though. This is actually way above normal for us this time of year but it sure beats friggin sleet. :cool:

[DansBlown73Nordic]

It snowed here pretty much all day. Not that we got any on the ground, but that should be next week.;) I hope anyway. I can't wait to Rip my snowmobile at a 100 in front of the house. That makes the snow alot better.:p

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by Dans66Stevens
It snowed here pretty much all day. Not that we got any on the ground, but that should be next week.;) I hope anyway. I can't wait to Rip my snowmobile at a 100 in front of the house. That makes the snow alot better.:p
Ok, you got that on me. I have to go about 50 miles to go snowmobiling...you can do it in the street in front of your house...
but if it keeps going like this, there may be no snow up there to go to. And then next year we will be riding dune buggies on the dry lake bottoms. So I hope the weather changes soon so we can have some water next year...
:D

[MANIC MECHANIC]

With all the fires I hear are burning out there , maybe you better worry about having some water now! j/k :rolleyes: Tim

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by MANIC MECHANIC
With all the fires I hear are burning out there , maybe you better worry about having some water now! j/k :rolleyes: Tim
You are right on...we are right at the point where the first rains normally happen. Once we have one or two good storms behind us, the division of forestry will declare an end to the fire season...

[MANIC MECHANIC]

Rexone, You been playin with matches again?:D Tim

[HammerDown]

Originally posted by 6 Dollar Boat
Come on guys, give them a break, we miss out on all the beauty that winter brings. Things like the leaves falling in your rain gutters, buying one of those funny looking shovels every year. Oh and I almost forgot, driving on those salted roads really adds to the look of any car.
Just wanted you to see the forcast for Havasu. :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Sun
Oct 19 Mostly Sunny 101°/74° 0 %
Mon
Oct 20 Sunny 99°/75° 0 %
Tue
Oct 21 Sunny 99°/73° 20 %
Wed
Oct 22 Sunny 100°/71° 20 %
Thu
Oct 23 Sunny 99°/71° 20 %
Fri
Oct 24 Partly Cloudy 97°/69° 20 %
Sat
Oct 25 Sunny 93°/67° 0 %
Sun
Oct 26 Sunny 95°/68° 0 %
Mon
Oct 27 Mostly Sunny 92°/67° 0 %
Last Updated Saturday, October 18, 2003, at 8:31 PM Mountain Standard Time (Saturday, 11:31 PM EDT)
A West Coast Weather Report below......
Uh, lets add to the above...Fire's yesterday, today and tomorrow and most likely the rest of the week...with smoke filled skys so no need for the Sun Screen. And poor air quality for breathing, so don't!
Chance of rain zero ....again (but we sure could use some)!
And add inferno temps. to the ones above...and there you have it...
So grab your Marsh-mallow's folks, its gonna be a HOT one here in the West.
Run for the Hills...huh...never mind...there Burnt...head for the Pools...huh...nope there boiling.
And theres your wonderful Cali weather forecast...looks like a little Snow out East aint such a bad thing...now is it!
************************************************** **
Sorry Left Costers...looks like rain + cooler temps Monday here on the East (un burnt) Coast.:rolleyes:
*all joking aside...I feel for those that lost there Homes due to the fires*:frown:

[HammerDown]

Originally posted by Rexone
Not alot of snow here yet. 90º today. :D
Huh...not much FIRE here either.
Sorry Mike...you had it coming.
PS. I hope all's good with your Home.

[Dr. Eagle]

Well HD, the west coast is a big place...I am about 450 miles from the fires... don't smell smoke here...but we really could use some rain...I just don't see it coming for a while...

[MANIC MECHANIC]

Well let's see now,no snow, no water, earthquakes, hurricanes, possible tidal waves, great white sharks, illegal aliens, mud slides, traffic on 10 lane highways, high cost of living, half the state on fire, Gay Davis, and now the Terminator ?:( A little cold and snow does'nt sound so awful now that I really think about it!j/k:D ...............................................Ser iously though, I hope that everyone is safe, and the fires are contained soon. Tim

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by MANIC MECHANIC
Well let's see now,no snow, no water, earthquakes, hurricanes, tidal waves, great white sharks, illegal aliens, mud slides, traffic on 10 lane highways, high cost of living, half the state on fire, Gay Davis, and now the Terminator ?:( A little cold and snow does'nt sound so awful now that I really think about it!j/k:D ...............................................Ser iously though, I hope that everyone is safe, and the fires are contained soon. Tim
Well, the mountains get lots of snow, in fact many of the roads that traverse the mountians are closed every year and don't get plowed until May or June. The snow is where a lot of our water comes from! But I don't have to shovel it here and if I want it, I can go up the hill a little ways from here (probably as close as many people drive to put their boats in the water between 30 and 70 miles depending on where I chose to stop) and slide around all I want!
But you are right, Gay Davis, Commie legislature,government off the rails with spending MY MONEY, too damn many people, unbelievable tax burden, insane real estate prices, UNBELIEVABLE regulation, earthquakes (even though I have never had EQ damage), floods, fires, mudslides, and drivers that are jerks... kinda makes the nice weather seem too damn expensive! And I was born and raised (for the most part) in this state. I've been ready to bail out for years because of the government regulation and all of those other reasons listed above. It is no paradise, that is for sure!
But the weather kicks ass on all of you guys!!!!!!!!:D :D :D

[HammerDown]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
But you are right, Gay Davis, Commie legislature,government off the rails with spending MY MONEY, too damn many people, unbelievable tax burden, insane real estate prices, UNBELIEVABLE regulation, earthquakes (even though I have never had EQ damage), floods, fires, mudslides, and drivers that are jerks... kinda makes the nice weather seem too damn expensive! And I was born and raised (for the most part) in this state. I've been ready to bail out for years because of the government regulation and all of those other reasons listed above. It is no paradise, that is for sure!
But the weather kicks ass on all of you guys!!!!!!!!:D :D :D
"But the Weather kicks ass".....OK, that sounds like a even trade off...ROTFLMAO
Oh and ya forgot to mention the LA Riots...and then theres O.J.:D

[MANIC MECHANIC]

I've been reading that a good number of forum member's and their family's homes or business's, are being threatened and destroyed in the fires out west. I truly feel for everyone affected. I want to apologize to anyone I may have offended with my humor about the event. Tim

[HammerDown]

Originally posted by MANIC MECHANIC
I've been reading that a good number of forum member's and their family's homes or business's, are being threatened and destroyed in the fires out west. I truly feel for everyone affected. I want to apologize to anyone I may have offended with my humor about the event. Tim
I Absoutely agree...nothing ment but harmless humor before the situation turned so horrible. Seeing these Fires on TV is nothing less than unbelievable...my heart goes out to all that have been affected by these fires.
And to those I often convers with on this Forum I hope that you and your Loved one's make it through this safe and sound.
PS. next time you see a Fire Fighter...give the thumbs up. An awsome breed of people for sure...I've always felt that way.

[HammerDown]

Pouring down rain...again.
Guess it could be worse...alot worse!

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by HammerDown
I Absoutely agree...nothing ment but harmless humor before the situation turned so horrible. Seeing these Fires on TV is nothing less than unbelievable...my heart goes out to all that have been affected by these fires.
And to those I often convers with on this Forum I hope that you and your Loved one's make it through this safe and sound.
PS. next time you see a Fire Fighter...give the thumbs up. An awsome breed of people for sure...I've always felt that way.
Yep, nobody had any idea this would turn this bad. I lived and worked in San Diego for 3 years while keeping my house up here in Folsom. The fire has burned right up to the apartment complex (from what I could tell from internet radio and TV) that I lived in in Mira Mesa right at Mira Mesa Blvd and I-15. There were a hell of a lot of houses between I-15 and the undeveloped areas where the fire came from. It is truly sad
Our banter to this point was only meant as harmless humor, not at the expense of anyone...perhaps now it is time to say enough.

[MANIC MECHANIC]

Originally posted by HammerDown
Pouring down rain...again.
Guess it could be worse...alot worse! Rain here too. I also can think of worse things. Tim

[6 Dollar Boat]

I worked all over San Diego County today and I never saw the sun. It is terrible down there. I don't smoke but must have smoked a couple packs today. No offense was taken at the earlier posts. I know a couple people who lost their homes. I can't imagine the hell that must be.
Living in So Cal all my life I actually enjoy being in bad weather. It hasn't rained here in 5 months, that can get a little boring. I would like to see what it feels like to be in the Midwest when it's 20 below. But that would require me to buy a pair of long pants. J/K.
Take care East coast guys, and have a great Winter.

[6 Dollar Boat]

Originally posted by Dr. Eagle
The fire has burned right up to the apartment complex (from what I could tell from internet radio and TV) that I lived in in Mira Mesa right at Mira Mesa Blvd and I-15.
Eagle, I drove down I 15 today and yes the fire burnt all of Miramar Marine Base East of the 15. There were Apts. just South of the fire that didn't get touched. The fire burned right up to the ice plant outside the chain link fence. The fire jumped about 10 lanes of Fwy and was stopped just outside the stables on the base.
6$

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by 6 Dollar Boat
Eagle, I drove down I 15 today and yes the fire burnt all of Miramar Marine Base East of the 15. There were Apts. just South of the fire that didn't get touched. The fire burned right up to the ice plant outside the chain link fence. The fire jumped about 10 lanes of Fwy and was stopped just outside the stables on the base.
6$
Thanks for the update, I have been wondering how the eastern part of Mira Mesa faired. Appreciate it.
Rob E

[Rexone]

Snowing... in the mountains
And raining lightly here tonight, but very lightly.
**** the heat, bring on winter. Like some freezing rain would be good right now.
Fires are not out yet though and could jump right back up with a dry weather change which happens here alot after storms roll through. hope not. Firefighters in San Bernardino mountains tonight are in 20º weather and the fire isn't yet out. They were hauling truck loads of jackets up the mountain today for them. Just how strange is this place? Can be pretty strange.
An area larger than Rhode Island has burned last week here. and almost 3000 homes, not to mention the likely several dozen dead yet to be found in some of those homes. I've seen alot of fires in my life here in So Cal but nothing even approaching this scale or intensity.

[MANIC MECHANIC]

Hey, Mike. Good to hear from you agian. We were glad to hear in the other thread that your home and bussiness were spared in the fires and that you and the family are OK. :) Also happy to hear that the weather has turned to the advantage of the fire fighters. With all the smoke and heat from the fires I bet they have been absolutely miserable in the heat. Of course, We've been watching it on the news, and all I can say is, unbelievable! The stories of lives and homes lost are truly heartwrenching. Our sympathy and prayers go out to all of you, especially those who have lost a home or loved one in this tragedy. Aren't the out of control fires a semi regular occurance? When they had the last really big fires about ten years ago I seem to remember a lot of talk about doing some controlled burning and clearing out deadwood etc. as well as setting things up to be more prepared to fight them. Was that any of that done? Not pointing fingers, just curious. Are they about to get control of the fires now? How bad is the smoke? Hope this comes to a conclusion soon-Keep us up to date with what's going on...............On the lighter side....It's Indian summer here, sunny and 77 today. Might even get the boat out one more time. Tim & Beverly :) :)

[Rexone]

Originally posted by MANIC MECHANIC
Hey, Mike. Good to hear from you agian. We were glad to hear in the other thread that your home and bussiness were spared in the fires and that you and the family are OK. :) Also happy to hear that the weather has turned to the advantage of the fire fighters. With all the smoke and heat from the fires I bet they have been absolutely miserable in the heat. Of course, We've been watching it on the news, and all I can say is, unbelievable! The stories of lives and homes lost are truly heartwrenching. Our sympathy and prayers go out to all of you, especially those who have lost a home or loved one in this tragedy. Aren't the out of control fires a semi regular occurance? When they had the last really big fires about ten years ago I seem to remember a lot of talk about doing some controlled burning and clearing out deadwood etc. as well as setting things up to be more prepared to fight them. Was that any of that done? Not pointing fingers, just curious. Are they about to get control of the fires now? How bad is the smoke? Hope this comes to a conclusion soon-Keep us up to date with what's going on...............On the lighter side....It's Indian summer here, sunny and 77 today. Might even get the boat out one more time. Tim & Beverly :) :)
At this point the fires are burning in a "controlled" environment, not to be confused with being "out". The smoke was very bad while we had the offshore wind a week ago. Since that changed all the smoke's blown into the desert, Havasu, Parker and beyond. It's actually been very clear here the last couple days. Fires are a regular occurance here yes but not in the intensity and scope these have been. They believe arsonist(s) are responsible for most of these. These guys wait till its real dry and the wind blows then start lighting them off. At one point I think there were 12-15 distinctly different fires going, all large, and it pretty much overwhelmed the firefighting resources. One or two large fires would have most likely been easier to fight effectively at one time. Most of the fires were in brush. Brush here covers all the mountains up to the tree line so it's a little misleading in name. Also it's not grass or something you just find by the side of the road. Its heavy and very dense and thick brush up to 20 feet high and burns very intensly and hot. Lots of oily natural bushes in our hills and mountains and they burn like a mofo. And housing tracts continually are being built adjacent to these areas. (Called money driven housing). It's a natural recipe for disaster. Add our seasonal Santa Ana winds to the equation and you have a fire storm that cannot be stopped. Best case is structure protection and that even is marginal many times.
The dead tree dealio in the forests is a little different issue but one the fires get right into as they're pretty indicriminate in what they burn. The environmentalists have in one way or another blocked thinning of our forests for many many years contrary to the advice of forest managers and fire folks. Now we have a situation where there are too many trees to be supported in drought conditions (not enough water for healthy trees of this number) making them prime targets for these bark beatles apparently (because of too many trees being allowed per acre). Half the trees are dead now I've heard with a much higher percentage gonna be dead soon I hear, like up to 90%. It's a serious problem and the forests are massive (and populated). Just because this one fire has been stopped doesn't take away the potential for disaster. If these dead and dying trees aren't removed this winter (unlikely), my guess is we're primed for even bigger and nastier fires next year and beyond, possibly threatening all the mountain resorts and cities. The area that burned in the forest last week while large, represents a relatively small area compared to the total forest area of So Cal that is at risk.

[MANIC MECHANIC]

Beautiful day here today,
74 and sunny.
Hope everyone made the best of it!
:D Tim

[Rexone]

Beautiful here today too... 60º and raining. :D just the way we like it. :D

[MANIC MECHANIC]

Ahh, Role reversal huh?......
Ahem....
We had the warmest day on record today for the city of Princeton for the month of Nov.
79 and sunny.
It was just incredible!
I took my boat out and Blah, Blah, Blah,Best time of my life!
You know the drill!;)
Hope everything's calming down out there Mike.
Not much on the news about it today.
Tim:D

[Dr. Eagle]

Originally posted by MANIC MECHANIC
Ahh, Role reversal huh?......
Ahem....
We had the warmest day on record today for the city of Princeton for the month of Nov.
79 and sunny.
It was just incredible!
I took my boat out and Blah, Blah, Blah,Best time of my life!
You know the drill!;)
Hope everything's calming down out there Mike.
Not much on the news about it today.
Tim:D
Nice, just watch where your cigerette butts get tossed....
Just kidding!
I am really kind of glad it has started raining here. Besides the good effect on the fires, we need the water.:D :D :D :D