Ewwwww.

[Mandelon]

yuk yuk yuk From MSN. It wasn't like this at my High School. Oh well. Glad that's all behind me......
Out at the Prom
More gay teens than ever are taking same-sex dates to prom. And instead of sparking controversy, schools are saying, whatÂ’s the big deal?
By Julie Scelfo
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
June 9 — Allen Wolff readied himself for prom like millions of other teenage boys. On the afternoon of May 25, the 17-year-old from Syracuse, New York, showered and shaved, leaving intact a thin goatee, donned a rental tux and silver vest, then coated his normally spiky locks with a generous portion of hair gel.
AFTER ESCORTING HIS date into the balloon-enhanced splendor of the Baker High School prom, he enjoyed a night that he later described as “absolutely amazing.” “We danced, ate chocolate covered strawberries, chocolate chip cannolis, and drank lots and lots of soda,” he reported. Yet unlike the other boys at the dance, the date on his arm was not a winsome girl in a graceful dress, but Misko Lencek-Inagaki, a boy in a black tux and silver bowtie.
Allen and Misko are joining peers from Wisconsin to West Virginia in revolutionizing the traditional high school prom. More gay teens than ever are turning out for this year’s big night in gowns and tuxes—or gowns and gowns, or tuxes and tuxes. But instead of sparking controversy, schools across the country are welcoming them. “It’s exploding,” says Alice Leeds, a spokesperson for Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, a nationwide advocacy group known as PFLAG. Brenda Melton, president of the American School Counselor Association (ASCA), says that it has become almost commonplace in urban and suburban areas for a student to bring a date of the same sex to the prom—and that in most schools, it’s really no big deal.
Today’s school administrators say they want an event that’s welcoming for everyone. In fact, officials are vastly more concerned about “bellybuttons and low-cut outfits” than whether a student is holding hands with a member of the same sex.
Gays are alright. It leaves more ladies for the rest of us.... :D :rolleyes: :D

[Sleek-Jet]

Mandelon:
Gays are alright. It leaves more ladies for the rest of us.... :D :rolleyes: :D I can't believe MSN published that last part. I'll have to start reading it more often. :D :rolleyes:

[NashvilleBound]

Just another reason why this world is going to HELL! Crazy......

[HOSS]

There`s alot of stuff I could say here but you probably already know what it is. :mad:

[superdave013]

I went to the high school prom in '80. If you did that at the prom you would be getting an ass kicking for sure.
Hey, I'm not saying getting your ass kicked because you're a fag is right. Just saying that if you did that shit at the prom @ Anderson High School in Anderson Indiana back then that's what would have happend.

[hot_diggity_dog]

There`s alot of stuff I could say here but you probably already know what it is. http://www.hotboatpics.com/pics/data/504/724im_with_you_dawg-med.jpg
Hot (I'm OK with the belly rings and thongs) Diggity Dog

[HOSS]

LMAO! :D

[River Ric]

First time I'm on the boards in the AM while I'm working on the computer and this is the first topic I click on?? I think I need to get take a shower. Later!!!! :confused:

[Boozer]

Times change, people change, and whats socially acceptable changes.
Think about things 20 years ago. If I had both my ears pierced and showed up at school like that I'd have probably gotten my ass kicked for it. Todays society accepts men having both ears pierced and other things pierced and 20 years ago you'd be a social outcast for that sort of thing.
Gay people are in a lot of ways a lot worse then having your ears pierced but still they are a part fo society and we have to accept them. I don't condone what they do or agree with what they do but I don't think they should be treated any differently then anyone else and I think they have just as much right to go to prom as a straight couple does.
Knowing that a lot of you have children what are you going to do when you find out your son or daughter is gay??? Don't say it's not going to happen because I can assure you that there will be at least 3 or 4 of you who post to these boards that will have a gay son or daughter.
You won't like the fact that your kid is gay but you will accept the fact and you will support your childs decision and hope and pray that they are not shut out by the world because they are different. That's what parents do. Good ones anyhow.
I know a lot of you like to use the word Fag but how would it make you feel if someone reffered to your child as "fag" I know personally that I would be beating some serious ass. So think about that and maybe your perspective will change.
And just to clarify I am in no way gay. I love pussy and always will.

[Seadog]

I admit that I have some phobias about gays being openly demonstrous about their leanings. But then, I don't feel that hetro couples should suck face or grope in public either. One of my employees took his kids to Disney World once and found out it was gay convention week. Ruined the entire trip for him to have his kids get that shoved in their faces. The men were not discreet in their groping. I felt that Disney was wrong in allowing an adult event at a children's place. And then to not notify other visitors that it was going on. What is next, going to the zoo with your kids and finding them shooting a porn movie or to Chuckie Cheese's that has a Hedonists Society swap meet?

[91nordic29]

boozer, hoss & diggity -- good job at holding your tongues. i know it was hard. boozer is right. wink

[hot_diggity_dog]

boozer, hoss & diggity -- good job at holding your tongues. i know it was hard. boozer is right. I'm a lesbian but just don't want to admit it. wink
HDD :cool:

[91nordic29]

RD yes it is debatatble however i dont want to debate such a hot topic here. everyone has their thoughts on this subject.
diggitty, say it isnt so!!!! eek!

[SchellSchock]

Hey Superedave103
Just saying that if you did that shit at the prom @ Anderson High School in Anderson Indiana back then that's what would have happend.
Small world sorta of....I spent a month in Anderson Indiana packing up and shipping to Mexico "Lead Grid casting machines" from the Exide battery plant there. Pretty quaint little town so I can believe ass kickin would have been the order of the day back then. Of course when I graduated in "1969" from a local high schoolhere, samething would have happened here. The world changes and not necessarily for the better. What is it Sam Kiniston said..... "What is attractive about a hairy ass and two hairy balls hangin down"? On the bright side less competition to oggle the racks at the River :D :D :D

[Boozer]

RiverDave:
Hey Nordic, just to let a know that is seriously debatable. I think it's flat out wrong to be saying that kind of behavior is considered even remotely ok in an institution of learning for children. Don't get me wrong I'm all gor individual freedoms etc.. I just don't think that it should be condoned or even (what it seems like nowdays) encouraged in our public schools.
RD You're right about that RD. To some extent at least. I agree that physical contact should not be permitted in educational institutes but that rule should apply to both straight and gay people. If Johnny the Quarter back of the Foot ball team is allowed to make out with Susy the cheerleader then Jeff the head of drama club should be allowed to make out with Paul from the floral club.
Double standards are bs.
But as far as prom goes. Well crap happens. People go to prom as couples and couples do things. It's a fact of life and there's nothing we can do about it. The more you fight it the more they'll publicly display it just to piss you off. So if you don't want it in front of you then accept it and you wont have them doing their thing in front of you to piss you off.
Todays society requires that we keep an open mind in order to co-exist.

[78Eliminator]

RiverDave:
I just don't think that it should be condoned or even (what it seems like nowdays) encouraged in our public schools.
RD Why? I thought we live in a free country. So you think that schools not only have the right to teach you what THEY think you need to know but they should also reinforce ONLY heterosexual relationships? You people in here are seriously ****ed up. Especially when you talk about inflicting violence on something that has NOTHING to do with you. You should be ashamed.
I really never got the whole "beat up the gay guy" thing. Maybe I just am not a violent person. Maybe I am just sure about my own sexuality and I don't need to prove it publicly by either stating that I would beat up someone who thinks different than me or by actually doing it.

[91nordic29]

PUBLIC: of, belonging to or concerning the people as a whole of or by the community at large.for the use or benefit of al, etc...
public schools are just a slice of the PUBLIC.

[lakesmodified]

78Eliminator:
RiverDave:
I just don't think that it should be condoned or even (what it seems like nowdays) encouraged in our public schools.
RD Why? I thought we live in a free country. So you think that schools not only have the right to teach you what THEY think you need to know but they should also reinforce ONLY heterosexual relationships? You people in here are seriously ****ed up. Especially when you talk about inflicting violence on something that has NOTHING to do with you. You should be ashamed.
I really never got the whole "beat up the gay guy" thing. Maybe I just am not a violent person. Maybe I am just sure about my own sexuality and I don't need to prove it publicly by either stating that I would beat up someone who thinks different than me or by actually doing it. 78 Eliminator: I commend you for standing up and making a stand for an unpopular subject. For those few that might know me from these boards, I would like to make a public statement: I've been married to the same beautiful woman for almost 24 years(I'm 43) I was blessed by God with three beautiful girls, which are now 22, 21, and 19. About 5 years ago, my eldest daughter confronted my wife and I and told us she was a lesbian. Did we freak out and send her to a psychiatrist in order to change her mind? NO, we accepted her for who she is, and continue to offer any support we would offer our other two daughters. Like you mentioned Eliminator, you don't have to prove your sexuality to anyone, and therefor cannot understand "Gay-bashing" I myself could never understand it either, for I grew up with a close friend that after being married for a few years called up to tell me that he was gay. He told me first, because he valued our friendship and wanted me to know, because he felt that I would no longer want to hang out with him. I told him back then, that I didn't give a **** whether he wanted to suck dick, or eat pussy. He had been my friend for over 10 years, and that wasn't going to change anything. We're still friends to this day, and I value his friendship, as mush as any other male friend I have. So you see, it isn't MACHO to beat some one up because he's gay, it's an indication about the fears you have hiding in your own closet! Maybe you have homosexual feelings and are scared!
[ June 12, 2003, 09:57 AM: Message edited by: lakesmodified ]

[eliminatedsprinter]

I graduated HS in 76. At my HS a gay couple probably would not have been beat up, but they would have been laughed at....A lot....

[78Eliminator]

eliminatedsprinter:
I graduated HS in 76. At my HS a gay couple probably would not have been beat up, but they would have been laughed at....A lot.... Well, thank God it's not 76 any more and as a society we are more accepting of eachother.

[Boozer]

I'm glad to see that I am not the only open minded person on these boards.

[superdave013]

SchellSchock:
Hey Superedave103
Just saying that if you did that shit at the prom @ Anderson High School in Anderson Indiana back then that's what would have happend.
Small world sorta of....I spent a month in Anderson Indiana packing up and shipping to Mexico "Lead Grid casting machines" from the Exide battery plant there. Pretty quaint little town so I can believe ass kickin would have been the order of the day back then. Of course when I graduated in "1969" from a local high schoolhere, samething would have happened here. The world changes and not necessarily for the better. What is it Sam Kiniston said..... "What is attractive about a hairy ass and two hairy balls hangin down"? On the bright side less competition to oggle the racks at the River :D :D :D You focker, you're the one that took the jobs hu?? lol J/K ya man, someone came right behind ya and packed up most of the GM plants too.
That said, I didn't say I would kick a gay's ass. Just that it would have happened in that town at that time. It's still pretty old skool there even today. Might get away with that at the prom in Indy but not Anderson. Hey, dating black chicks was looked down on too. Ah, when I moved to calif I at least got to check that out.
Lakes, your story sounds alot like my wife's family. Her brothers best life long friend came out to be gay. They are still friends and he's an ok guy. Also she has a cousin that's lesbian. I have to say at the family functions she's the funnest to be around.

[91nordic29]

i used to hang out at this place in town and play volleyball a couple times a week. met some really nice people. well this subject came up one night and this one guy, tough, loud kinda guy. he was calling me every name in the book and insiting that I must be a lesbian since i was defending gay people. the conversation ended badly (i CAN get on my soap box, high horse once in awhile, teehee) and he left. well about 3 years later, I ran into one of the guys we used to play volleyball with and he had said that the tough guy had shown up one night and told all of them that he owed me an apology because, guess what??? right. he was gay. i dont know why he wasted all his energy for so long trying to be something he wasnt. that is the shame of it all.

[NastyOne]

Mandelon:
Out at the Prom
More gay teens than ever are taking same-sex dates to prom. And instead of sparking controversy, schools are saying, whatÂ’s the big deal?
By Julie Scelfo
NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE
June 9 — Allen Wolff readied himself for prom like millions of other teenage boys. On the afternoon of May 25, the 17-year-old from Syracuse, New York, showered and shaved, leaving intact a thin goatee, donned a rental tux and silver vest, then coated his normally spiky locks with a generous portion of hair gel.
AFTER ESCORTING HIS date into the balloon-enhanced splendor of the Baker High School prom, he enjoyed a night that he later described as “absolutely amazing.” “We danced, ate chocolate covered strawberries, chocolate chip cannolis, and drank lots and lots of soda,” he reported. Yet unlike the other boys at the dance, the date on his arm was not a winsome girl in a graceful dress, but Misko Lencek-Inagaki, a boy in a black tux and silver bowtie.
Allen and Misko are joining peers from Wisconsin to West Virginia in revolutionizing the traditional high school prom. More gay teens than ever are turning out for this year’s big night in gowns and tuxes—or gowns and gowns, or tuxes and tuxes. But instead of sparking controversy, schools across the country are welcoming them. “It’s exploding,” says Alice Leeds, a spokesperson for Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays, a nationwide advocacy group known as PFLAG. Brenda Melton, president of the American School Counselor Association (ASCA), says that it has become almost commonplace in urban and suburban areas for a student to bring a date of the same sex to the prom—and that in most schools, it’s really no big deal.
Today’s school administrators say they want an event that’s welcoming for everyone. In fact, officials are vastly more concerned about “bellybuttons and low-cut outfits” than whether a student is holding hands with a member of the same sex. Where is this kids Dad! :mad:
I would get my ass whooped.

[78Eliminator]

NastyOne:
Where is this kids Dad! :mad:
I would get my ass whooped. Go watch the movie "American Beauty". It's also about someone's dad.

[Boozer]

Your father would kick your ass for being yourself? That's pretty f*d up. I don't have kids but when I do I want my kids to be honest with me and themselves. If my kid wants to screw someone outside of their race more power to them. If my kid wants to screw someone of the same sex more power to them. Why make someone live in denial of their true self to make you happy? And how could making your gay kid act straight make you happy knowing that you're not letting your kid live their life.
I have only one this to say to someone who is a parent that would have this type of mentality towards their kids **** YOU!! You brought them into this world to be theor own person not your little clone. Let them be themselves no matter what.

[91nordic29]

i think thatas human beings in this world today, we have more monumental concerns than to worry about why some people are attracted to someone of the same sex. some may never understand it but that is okay. you dont have to. when i am dead or dying i can honestly say that i will not be thinking of someone else's sexuality. i will worry whetather or not i made some people happy while i was here. :D

[78Eliminator]

I feel a little better now that I have heard some people who are accepting and not hateful. When I read some of this crap first thing in the morning, I thought I accidentally was on some kind of Nazi forum.

[91nordic29]

78ELIM, pardon me but i just cant resist this one:
i sure dont see/hear any of you guys flinching whe it come to two women and a little somthin somethin.
cliche, i know but it always comes to mind when this comes up

[Blown 472]

Mandy are you mad cuz this came to late in your life??? :D :D :D :p

[eliminatedsprinter]

The only persons sex life I worry about is my own. When my son is old enough to have one I'll do my best to help him have a safe and happy one. Right now I'm just trying to provide him with a healthy well rounded upbringing. When he asks questions I answer them frankly and in a matter of fact manner. I'm not teaching him to hate or dislike anyone who isn't dangerous. I'm teaching him that all people are individuals and should be treated and respected in a manner that is based on how they treat others, not what pigon hole catigory some collectivist nitwits have stuck them in.

[Boozer]

eliminatedsprinter:
The only persons sex life I worry about is my own. When my son is old enough to have one I'll do my best to help him have a safe and happy one. Right now I'm just trying to provide him with a healthy well rounded upbringing. When he asks questions I answer them frankly and in a matter of fact manner. I'm not teaching him to hate or dislike anyone who isn't dangerous. I'm teaching him that all people are individuals and should be treated and respected in a manner that is based on how they treat others, not what pigon hole catigory some collectivist nitwits have stuck them in. Thank you. The world needs more parents like you.

[Blown 472]

eliminatedsprinter:
The only persons sex life I worry about is my own. When my son is old enough to have one I'll do my best to help him have a safe and happy one. Right now I'm just trying to provide him with a healthy well rounded upbringing. When he asks questions I answer them frankly and in a matter of fact manner. I'm not teaching him to hate or dislike anyone who isn't dangerous. I'm teaching him that all people are individuals and should be treated and respected in a manner that is based on how they treat others, not what pigon hole catigory some collectivist nitwits have stuck them in. Can I get a hell yeah, good for you. I follow the same line of thought.

[Seadog]

I have to wonder if there are actually more gays than in the past or if it just seems that way. It seems that every tv show has to have at least one gay, often played by straights.
I wonder, because part of me feels that a lot of the younger people are being influenced to be gay. I know that most kids since the dawn of time have wondered about their sexuality as their hormones churn all around. Some experiment and most get real confused. With the 'acceptance' of being gay, I think it is adding to the confusion and that some may actually get pushed into a homosexual lifestyle by those around them. The shrink world have argued various theories for decades and still do not have an agreement, so I don't figure we are going to do much better here. As long as they are circumspect about it, I have no major problems with homosexuality, other than the ladies don't want me to join and I don't want anywhere near the guys doing it.

[91nordic29]

" grew up with a close friend that after being married for a few years called up to tell me that he was gay"
"If some immature kids think they know who they are and who they want to be for the rest of thier lives, then let them explore it"
the point here is that the first guy was probably told all his life that he had to get married, and so on. only to admit (not realize) that he was gay. He knew this all along, he didnt just go "exploring" and turn gay.

[eliminatedsprinter]

91nordic29:
" grew up with a close friend that after being married for a few years called up to tell me that he was gay"
"If some immature kids think they know who they are and who they want to be for the rest of thier lives, then let them explore it"
the point here is that the first guy was probably told all his life that he had to get married, and so on. only to admit (not realize) that he was gay. He knew this all along, he didnt just go "exploring" and turn gay. Or maybe he just got sucked into it. wink
Sorry, I could't resist that set up devil :D wink
[ June 12, 2003, 12:53 PM: Message edited by: eliminatedsprinter ]

[Ziggy]

I have a nephew who is Gay---actually very gay. He is the head of some gay organization in Vegas, writes coloumns in gay publications and even has some sort of radio Music show he produces in Vegas. He's a very caring person and non-violent. He comes accross as very gay to people but he has never tried to impose HIS way of life upon others. He is who he is.
I don't condone or believe in his way of life but I respect that he has followed his dreams and not let his family or anyone else influence his choices.
I personally don't feel offended by gays unless they try to push their "craft" like salespeople. I deal with gays through work now and again, never had a problem....and frankly they are much more polite than the straight folks.
My kids have grown up with straight parents so this is what they see but if one was to turn out gay(no prob with my 20 yr old son :D :cool: ), they are still my kids and I'd not condem them or remove them from my life. I might be a little shocked but I'd love them just the same.